Dear Hakan, For the US, accidents per vehicle would not be valid, since many drivers own and operate two, three, or more vehicles. When I used to live and work in the US, I put around 30,000 miles/year on three vehicles. Wouldn't my risk of an accident, as a driver, have to based on my 30,000 miles/year of driving, not on a per vehicle basis? I think the more valid measure for comparison between countries would be the accidents/total miles driven by all drivers/year.
Derek Hargis > > Martin, > > You are very right, the most common professional way to compare is > accidents per vehicles and/or distance driven. For those countries that > we have been talking about, it does not make a very large difference. > It would be very skewed if we started to include countries like India > or China, who would have very low death per population. > > I think that Kim touched very valid points, education, experience and > attitudes. It is also what the people who works with the issues are > saying. The European countries have 18 years old as limit for car > driving licence, 16 years for light motor bike and 15 years for moped. > The training, tests and exams are more extensive. Skidding training > are mandatory and certificate is necessary for drivers licence. > > Germany have much better statistics than US, that is a fact. I can > understand your sister, you must be very disciplined to drive on > German autobahn. Having higher normal speeds, with many who > drives at 100-130 miles per hour is scary, but they are more predictable > and follow the rules. I am more afraid on US highways, since the US > drivers are less predictable and less respect for rules. > > US is among the leaders on accidents and fatalities what ever way > you look at the numbers. US is also leader on murder rates, largely > because of the gun laws. This is part of the constitutional rights, freedom, > corporate interests and the right to do business. If you change it, you > will end up with a suppressed society, like all other countries in the > world. I do not understand why the terrorists want to kill a few people, > when the Americans are so good in doing it themselves. Look only > at president Bush and the watering down of taken pollution decisions, > it will prematurely kill more people than many of the bad guys in other > countries have done. This is a well researched fact. > > With all the people that are prepared to twist and hide realities, after > all it is all a conspiracy to "bash the Americans", it is hard to defend > common sense. Intelligence and common sense is the arch enemies > of corporate America and the "American way of life". I am not on a > crusade for saving American lives, only to beg them to save some > energy resources for developing the rest of the world. > > Hakan > > At 01:50 AM 4/27/2003 -0400, you wrote: > >I hear about massive accidents on the German autobahn all the time. I > >remember my sister telling me how she was so scared because everyone > >drove extremely fast. > >You can't just compare x deaths out of n people. Like any statistic it > >depends on everything else remotely related to it. > > > >Hakan Falk wrote: > > > > > > > >Germany have less than Australia and have more intersecting > > >highways, higher density and in many highways no speed limit. > > > > > >Sweden and Switzerland have around 1 death per 85,000 or nearly > > >1/9 of US. > > > > > >Hakan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >-- > >--- > >Martin Klingensmith > >http://nnytech.net/ > >http://infoarchive.net/ > > > > > > > Biofuel at Journey to Forever: > http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html > > Biofuels list archives: > http://archive.nnytech.net/ > > Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. > To unsubscribe, send an email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~--> Get A Free Psychic Reading! Your Online Answer To Life's Important Questions. http://us.click.yahoo.com/O10svD/Me7FAA/AG3JAA/FGYolB/TM ---------------------------------------------------------------------~-> Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/