I would have to agree with you.I've lived in several states both with strict
and lax firearm purchase laws.Even in the most lax
states[Florida,Lousiana,Texas]they observed all the paperwork and waiting
periods.
What I did note was there was an inverse raito between the states that severly
restrict gun ownership[Michigan,Illnois]and crime.While this is only my
personal experince there has been data published that bears this out.
Mr.Moore is in business.In order to sell your product,it must be fresh and
exciting.He does not sell sex.What he sells he sells well.However not as well
as he used to,in my opnion.Before,he had truthto sell,now he only has inuendo.
Rico
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I'm also from Michigan, doesn't mean I blindly accept the opinion of everyone
who speaks here. The facts are true. Michael Moore is meticulous in making sure
he doesn't say anything that is explicitly false. Instead, he uses cheap camera
tricks and clever sequences to give a very clear picture of what he is trying
to say without ever actually implicating himself.
Just a few examples from Bowling from Columbine because its been thoroughly
analyzed numerous times.
Firstly, the gun from the bank.
http://www.bowlingfortruth.com/bowlingforcolumbine/scenes/bank.htm
He edits the seen to make it appear like he walked in wrote his name down and
got a gun. This is supposed to show how easy it is to get a gun. This is a
horrible example because the same process is used here as any gun shop would
use. He neglects to show the fact that the clerk then took his ID and ran it
through I believe its an FBI? database. But it certainly looks like America is
handing out guns to anyone. If I remember correctly from read the process
actually took closer to an hour and a half. Weak example yes, but none-the-less
if shown honestly it would do nothing to promote Moore's arguement that any old
fool can get a gun in the way he described. The requirements for getting that
gun from the bank were just as stringent as getting it from any other
registered gun shop. If he wants to analyze that, then fine, I support it.
Maybe it is too easy to get a gun, I'm not here to offer an opinion on it, but
the bank scene is only an example of the same process that would happen in
any other legal weapon transaction.
I think the NRA bashes are more incriminating of Moore's deceptive style. He
spends quite a while dehumanizing the NRA and especially Mr. Heston. I had a
very good friend see this movie and tell me Heston and the NRA were a bunch of
jerks for jumping up to hold rallies right after the killings in Flint and
Columbine. I must say, the 'evidence' in the movie was compelling. But some
other people slowed down the feeds and picked through the internet. The 'rally'
in Flint wasn't actually a Rally, Heston showed up to support Bush on his
campaign, and it was 7 months after the incident. The movie shows a headline
that says, "48 hours after Kayla Rolland is pronounced dead" either right
before or right after the Heston clip. It insinuates the meeting was 48 hours
after, and there is no way its not intentional. But the headline continues on
to say something about Clinton making a statement about the incident and is
completely unrelated to the NRA.
http://www.bowlingfortruth.com/bowlingforcolumbine/scenes/hestonrally2.htm
He also uses the NRA meeting in Colorado right after the Columbine shootings as
further ammo against the NRA. The video clips he shows of Heston are actually
from another rally, and he fails to mention that the NRA cancelled most all of
its other activities aside from the vote that by law is mandatory. I believe
its a non-profit law to vote officials or something else similar. Irregardless
the NRA had to have its meeting, which it did, but the NRA did nothing like
what Moore shows. Frankly, I don't know what the whole NRA bash accomplished
for his argument, but his entire basis against the NRA is made up. It looks
more like he has a vendetta against the NRA and wants to publish it.
So, quite frankly, I don't trust the guy, or most of what he says. He has been
explicitly decpetive in BFC. He has something compelling with the Iraq war, but
just like most of the media, its entirely one-sided. And his theory on the
Saudi connection and the plot with the Bushes to intentionally start a war is
pretty weak. Its more an assertion using almost nothing. I think his smoking
gun is a connection in the Carlyle group, which is a large investing firm. I
don't know about you guys, but I don't know the other stockholders of the
companies I invest in, much less socialize and plot to take over the world with
them. I'm really anxious to see what little camera tricks he threw into this
one when it comes out on DVD.
Randall Sanborn
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Look pal, speaking as one of Mike's Michigan homeboys, you and I are
gonna throw down. When Mike says, "The facts are true, the opinions are
mine," he means it. If you have a mental disorder that distorts your
analytical skills to the point where you can't tell fact from opinion,
then you really should only read Mike's books or watch his films under
the supervision of a trained mental health specialist. Until you're
ready to seek mental health services, I suggest you go back to your
flock of ostriches and stick your head back in the sands of the
mainstream media informational wasteland.
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