True, but 20 minute login times wouldn’t be acceptable no matter how they use it. I don’t care how old the computers are, that’s just unreasonable. The Novell client doesn’t slow things down that much. That needs to be fixed sooner rather than later and should have never been allowed to get that far. My guess is that they aren’t concerned with fixing the problem because I’m thinking Scott has already told them what was causing the problem and they haven’t been concerned about making it go away.
From: tech-geeks-boun...@tech-geeks.org [mailto:tech-geeks-boun...@tech-geeks.org] On Behalf Of Heath Henderson Sent: Friday, October 22, 2010 8:02 AM To: Tech-Geeks Mailing List Subject: Re: [tech-geeks] Job Opening - Dir of Tech Bad part is you need to evaluate for a year to see how they use it to know what is best for the cause! I guess you could "maintain" and just fix what is broken and not working now. Maybe thatcoukd carry them through the year. -Heath Henderson On Oct 22, 2010, at 7:42 AM, Jason Livezey <jlive...@nlsd122.org> wrote: The Tech-Geek special forces should storm the district get everything running then slowly disappear into the night. That way whoever takes this job has a fighting chance of getting things turned around in the district. JL On Oct 22, 2010, at 7:35 AM, Scott Oyer wrote: In this case a lot -- because they are union... On Oct 22, 2010, at 6:58 AM, Bill Purcell wrote: That was my first thought.. 20-30 min login.. Those techs should be fired... Was does it take to fire a tech for incompetence... Percy On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 11:26 AM, Eric Pingel <etpinge.l...@gmail.com> wrote: might be a union deal that login times are 30-40 minutes ---- Eric Pingel Network Manager Lake Bluff School District 65 epin...@lb65.org On Oct 21, 2010, at 11:16 AM, Jim Flanagan wrote: don't forget, get the login tim down to 5 min. and you are a hero ;-) On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 11:04 AM, Brian Tobin <brian.to...@dist428.org> wrote: So it basically sounds like 80-90K a year to do nothing. Ha! It would be interesting to see what kind of skill set the techs have, and how bad the network config is. Brian Tobin DeKalb Community Unit School District 428 901 s 4th st DeKalb, IL 60115 brian.to...@dist428.org ilfastpi...@gmail.com W815.754.2284 M302.468.6246 ________________________________________ From: tech-geeks-boun...@tech-geeks.org [tech-geeks-boun...@tech-geeks.org] On Behalf Of Chris Franzen [chrisfran...@nokomis.k12.il.us] Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2010 11:03 AM To: Tech-Geeks Mailing List Subject: Re: [tech-geeks] Job Opening - Dir of Tech Yeah that would be my problem as well. I would be hands on and upset the union. good luck to anyone who wishes to truck down this path. Chris Franzen Technology Coordinator Nokomis School District 511 Oberle St. Nokomis, IL 62075 On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 10:47 AM, T Suter <suterscomput...@gmail.com<mailto:suterscomput...@gmail.com>> wrote: I should clarify......I wasn't mad because I HAD to do the work. It was because I had several grievances filed against me because I WANTED to do the work...and did. On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 10:46 AM, T Suter <suterscomput...@gmail.com<mailto:suterscomput...@gmail.com>> wrote: Delawder, I remember back in a former life....being a supervisor in a factory. All my floor personnel was union....and I wasn't of course. While I could go on and on about what I know of that experience, I'll just say that I was less than happy several times when I would go to do some labor because a person was sick. The politics of that whole situation superimposed onto the politics already manifested for a Director who DOESN'T have to deal with union subordinates, screams Rolaids. Does the benefit package have some sort of comprehensive care/life insurance for stress related illnesses, mental or physical, that is sure to take the Director down? I guess if that budget is all the district can do for their technology, the new courageous soul taking on that load of a position should be allowed to enlist the most diligent and creative grant writer that would find some tech funds for that budget to upgrade that heaping pile of a collision domain. While I believe that throwing money at something doesn't necessarily always fix it....$300,000 a year for a tech budget of a school that size with the problems it has.............- WOW! Isn't that like an early/mid 90's budget? On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 10:11 AM, Mike Oliveri <mike.oliv...@student.rb60.com<mailto:mike.oliv...@student.rb60.com>> wrote: I'm wondering if they're talking to Cat. State Farm gives out old equipment in Bloomington, so I'm wondering if Cat does the same. They've got their big offices downtown and facilities all over the area. Mike On Oct 21, 2010, at 10:03 AM, Richard Kasson wrote: > Let me get this straight. The techs are all union so the tech director > can't touch the equipment? That's the scariest part. Does that budget > figure include the salaries or are salaries separate. If salaries are > separate, you can get creative and make it work. I manage on $25,000 a year > or less depending on what my REAP grant is and whether Congress continues to > fund it. You just have to find and use available resources that provide > things for free. There is absolutely no reason that those techs shouldn't > be visiting Rock Island arsenal on a regular basis to take advantage of what > the Army is rotating out of service. There's some pretty nice two and > three-year-old equipment available. All it takes is someone to fill out the > paperwork and watch the website. > > That login thing is a bit worrisome. I had 9 year old Celeron 600s with 64 > MB RAM that didn't take 20 minutes to login, even when we were a Novell > Network. Something definitely ain't correct there. > > It does sound like a challenge and it would be a blast to give it a shot - > if I lived closer. > > -----Original Message----- > From: > tech-geeks-boun...@tech-geeks.org<mailto:tech-geeks-boun...@tech-geeks.org> > [mailto:tech-geeks-boun...@tech-geeks.org<mailto:tech-geeks-boun...@tech-geeks.org>] > On Behalf Of Mike Oliveri > Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2010 7:08 PM > To: Tech-Geeks Mailing List > Subject: Re: [tech-geeks] Job Opening - Dir of Tech > > That's what I'm thinking. > > Mike > > > On Oct 20, 2010, at 6:28 PM, Heath Henderson wrote: > >> Yes, failure, but from the creative standpoint, it sure would be fun to > try. From the technical side (outside of the tech plan etc) it sure would be > challenging to try and get that system fixed back up right. Sounds like the > infrastructure is there though. >> >> -Heath Henderson >> >> On Oct 20, 2010, at 5:07 PM, Jason Livezey >> <jlive...@nlsd122.org<mailto:jlive...@nlsd122.org>> wrote: >> >>> It is going to be really hard for a Director if he or she can't touch > anything. I have to manage things on a daily basis just so I can make an > educated decision about what I need and who is going to manage it. > Obviously something is seriously wrong with their setup if they have login > times of 20+ minutes. That basically means those machines are useless... >>> >>> You would have to go backwards before you could go forward. With that > current budget you could only spend about $7500K a building if you divided > equally. 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