In this case a lot -- because they are union... On Oct 22, 2010, at 6:58 AM, Bill Purcell wrote:
> That was my first thought.. 20-30 min login.. Those techs should be fired... > Was does it take to fire a tech for incompetence... > Percy > > On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 11:26 AM, Eric Pingel <etpinge.l...@gmail.com> wrote: > might be a union deal that login times are 30-40 minutes > > ---- > Eric Pingel > Network Manager > Lake Bluff School District 65 > epin...@lb65.org > > On Oct 21, 2010, at 11:16 AM, Jim Flanagan wrote: > >> don't forget, get the login tim down to 5 min. and you are a hero ;-) >> >> On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 11:04 AM, Brian Tobin <brian.to...@dist428.org> >> wrote: >> So it basically sounds like 80-90K a year to do nothing. Ha! >> It would be interesting to see what kind of skill set the techs have, and >> how bad the network config is. >> >> Brian Tobin >> DeKalb Community Unit School District 428 >> 901 s 4th st >> DeKalb, IL 60115 >> brian.to...@dist428.org >> ilfastpi...@gmail.com >> W815.754.2284 >> M302.468.6246 >> ________________________________________ >> From: tech-geeks-boun...@tech-geeks.org [tech-geeks-boun...@tech-geeks.org] >> On Behalf Of Chris Franzen [chrisfran...@nokomis.k12.il.us] >> Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2010 11:03 AM >> To: Tech-Geeks Mailing List >> Subject: Re: [tech-geeks] Job Opening - Dir of Tech >> >> Yeah that would be my problem as well. I would be hands on and upset the >> union. good luck to anyone who wishes to truck down this path. >> Chris Franzen >> Technology Coordinator >> Nokomis School District >> 511 Oberle St. >> Nokomis, IL 62075 >> >> >> >> On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 10:47 AM, T Suter >> <suterscomput...@gmail.com<mailto:suterscomput...@gmail.com>> wrote: >> I should clarify......I wasn't mad because I HAD to do the work. It was >> because I had several grievances filed against me because I WANTED to do the >> work...and did. >> >> >> >> >> On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 10:46 AM, T Suter >> <suterscomput...@gmail.com<mailto:suterscomput...@gmail.com>> wrote: >> Delawder, >> >> >> >> I remember back in a former life....being a supervisor in a factory. All my >> floor personnel was union....and I wasn't of course. While I could go on >> and on about what I know of that experience, I'll just say that I was less >> than happy several times when I would go to do some labor because a person >> was sick. The politics of that whole situation superimposed onto the >> politics already manifested for a Director who DOESN'T have to deal with >> union subordinates, screams Rolaids. Does the benefit package have some >> sort of comprehensive care/life insurance for stress related illnesses, >> mental or physical, that is sure to take the Director down? >> >> I guess if that budget is all the district can do for their technology, the >> new courageous soul taking on that load of a position should be allowed to >> enlist the most diligent and creative grant writer that would find some tech >> funds for that budget to upgrade that heaping pile of a collision domain. >> While I believe that throwing money at something doesn't necessarily always >> fix it....$300,000 a year for a tech budget of a school that size with the >> problems it has.............- WOW! Isn't that like an early/mid 90's budget? >> >> >> >> On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 10:11 AM, Mike Oliveri >> <mike.oliv...@student.rb60.com<mailto:mike.oliv...@student.rb60.com>> wrote: >> I'm wondering if they're talking to Cat. State Farm gives out old equipment >> in Bloomington, so I'm wondering if Cat does the same. They've got their big >> offices downtown and facilities all over the area. >> >> Mike >> >> >> >> On Oct 21, 2010, at 10:03 AM, Richard Kasson wrote: >> >> > Let me get this straight. The techs are all union so the tech director >> > can't touch the equipment? That's the scariest part. Does that budget >> > figure include the salaries or are salaries separate. If salaries are >> > separate, you can get creative and make it work. I manage on $25,000 a >> > year >> > or less depending on what my REAP grant is and whether Congress continues >> > to >> > fund it. You just have to find and use available resources that provide >> > things for free. There is absolutely no reason that those techs shouldn't >> > be visiting Rock Island arsenal on a regular basis to take advantage of >> > what >> > the Army is rotating out of service. There's some pretty nice two and >> > three-year-old equipment available. All it takes is someone to fill out >> > the >> > paperwork and watch the website. >> > >> > That login thing is a bit worrisome. I had 9 year old Celeron 600s with 64 >> > MB RAM that didn't take 20 minutes to login, even when we were a Novell >> > Network. Something definitely ain't correct there. >> > >> > It does sound like a challenge and it would be a blast to give it a shot - >> > if I lived closer. >> > >> > -----Original Message----- >> > From: >> > tech-geeks-boun...@tech-geeks.org<mailto:tech-geeks-boun...@tech-geeks.org> >> > [mailto:tech-geeks-boun...@tech-geeks.org<mailto:tech-geeks-boun...@tech-geeks.org>] >> > On Behalf Of Mike Oliveri >> > Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2010 7:08 PM >> > To: Tech-Geeks Mailing List >> > Subject: Re: [tech-geeks] Job Opening - Dir of Tech >> > >> > That's what I'm thinking. >> > >> > Mike >> > >> > >> > On Oct 20, 2010, at 6:28 PM, Heath Henderson wrote: >> > >> >> Yes, failure, but from the creative standpoint, it sure would be fun to >> > try. From the technical side (outside of the tech plan etc) it sure would >> > be >> > challenging to try and get that system fixed back up right. Sounds like the >> > infrastructure is there though. >> >> >> >> -Heath Henderson >> >> >> >> On Oct 20, 2010, at 5:07 PM, Jason Livezey >> >> <jlive...@nlsd122.org<mailto:jlive...@nlsd122.org>> wrote: >> >> >> >>> It is going to be really hard for a Director if he or she can't touch >> > anything. I have to manage things on a daily basis just so I can make an >> > educated decision about what I need and who is going to manage it. >> > Obviously something is seriously wrong with their setup if they have login >> > times of 20+ minutes. That basically means those machines are useless... >> >>> >> >>> You would have to go backwards before you could go forward. With that >> > current budget you could only spend about $7500K a building if you divided >> > equally. With a district that big a budget like that for tech is just bad. >> >>> >> >>> Talk about setting up for failure... >> >>> >> >>> JL >> >>> >> >>> On Oct 20, 2010, at 3:47 PM, Delawder, Scott wrote: >> >>> >> >>>> Union District means no Hands on for the Director >> >>> >> >>> Jason Livezey >> >>> Director of Technology >> >>> New Lenox School District #122 >> >>> Cell: 815.693.9338 >> >>> >> >>> ACMT Certified >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> | Subscription info at http://www.tech-geeks.org | >> >> | Subscription info at http://www.tech-geeks.org | >> > >> > | Subscription info at http://www.tech-geeks.org | >> > >> > | Subscription info at http://www.tech-geeks.org | >> >> | Subscription info at http://www.tech-geeks.org | >> >> >> >> | Subscription info at http://www.tech-geeks.org | >> >> | Subscription info at http://www.tech-geeks.org | >> >> >> >> -- >> >> Jim Flanagan >> 4439 N. 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