That was my first thought.. 20-30 min login.. Those techs should be fired...
Was does it take to fire a tech for incompetence...
Percy

On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 11:26 AM, Eric Pingel <etpinge.l...@gmail.com>wrote:

> might be a union deal that login times are 30-40 minutes
>
> ----
> Eric Pingel
> Network Manager
> Lake Bluff School District 65
> epin...@lb65.org
>
>  On Oct 21, 2010, at 11:16 AM, Jim Flanagan wrote:
>
> don't forget, get the login tim down to 5 min. and you are a hero ;-)
>
> On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 11:04 AM, Brian Tobin <brian.to...@dist428.org>wrote:
>
>> So it basically sounds like 80-90K a year to do nothing.  Ha!
>> It would be interesting to see what kind of skill set the techs have, and
>> how bad the network config is.
>>
>> Brian Tobin
>> DeKalb Community Unit School District 428
>> 901 s 4th st
>> DeKalb, IL 60115
>> brian.to...@dist428.org
>> ilfastpi...@gmail.com
>> W815.754.2284
>> M302.468.6246
>> ________________________________________
>> From: tech-geeks-boun...@tech-geeks.org [
>> tech-geeks-boun...@tech-geeks.org] On Behalf Of Chris Franzen [
>> chrisfran...@nokomis.k12.il.us]
>> Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2010 11:03 AM
>> To: Tech-Geeks Mailing List
>> Subject: Re: [tech-geeks] Job Opening - Dir of Tech
>>
>> Yeah that would be my problem as well.  I would be hands on and upset the
>> union.  good luck to anyone who wishes to truck down this path.
>> Chris Franzen
>> Technology Coordinator
>> Nokomis School District
>> 511 Oberle St.
>> Nokomis, IL  62075
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 10:47 AM, T Suter <suterscomput...@gmail.com
>> <mailto:suterscomput...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> I should clarify......I wasn't mad because I HAD to do the work.  It was
>> because I had several grievances filed against me because I WANTED to do the
>> work...and did.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 10:46 AM, T Suter <suterscomput...@gmail.com
>> <mailto:suterscomput...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> Delawder,
>>
>>
>>
>> I remember back in a former life....being a supervisor in a factory. All
>> my floor personnel was union....and I wasn't of course.  While I could go on
>> and on about what I know of that experience, I'll just say that I was less
>> than happy several times when I would go to do some labor because a person
>> was sick.  The politics of that whole situation superimposed onto the
>> politics already manifested for a Director who DOESN'T have to deal with
>> union subordinates, screams Rolaids.  Does the benefit package have some
>> sort of comprehensive care/life insurance for stress related illnesses,
>> mental or physical, that is sure to take the Director down?
>>
>> I guess if that budget is all the district can do for their technology,
>> the new courageous soul taking on that load of a position should be allowed
>> to enlist the most diligent and creative grant writer that would find some
>> tech funds for that budget to upgrade that heaping pile of a collision
>> domain.  While I believe that throwing money at something doesn't
>> necessarily always fix it....$300,000 a year for a tech budget of a school
>> that size with the problems it has.............- WOW!  Isn't that like an
>> early/mid 90's budget?
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 10:11 AM, Mike Oliveri <
>> mike.oliv...@student.rb60.com<mailto:mike.oliv...@student.rb60.com>>
>> wrote:
>> I'm wondering if they're talking to Cat. State Farm gives out old
>> equipment in Bloomington, so I'm wondering if Cat does the same. They've got
>> their big offices downtown and facilities all over the area.
>>
>> Mike
>>
>>
>>
>> On Oct 21, 2010, at 10:03 AM, Richard Kasson wrote:
>>
>> > Let me get this straight.  The techs are all union so the tech director
>> > can't touch the equipment?  That's the scariest part.  Does that budget
>> > figure include the salaries or are salaries separate.  If salaries are
>> > separate, you can get creative and make it work.  I manage on $25,000 a
>> year
>> > or less depending on what my REAP grant is and whether Congress
>> continues to
>> > fund it.  You just have to find and use available resources that provide
>> > things for free.  There is absolutely no reason that those techs
>> shouldn't
>> > be visiting Rock Island arsenal on a regular basis to take advantage of
>> what
>> > the Army is rotating out of service.  There's some pretty nice two and
>> > three-year-old equipment available.  All it takes is someone to fill out
>> the
>> > paperwork and watch the website.
>> >
>> > That login thing is a bit worrisome.  I had 9 year old Celeron 600s with
>> 64
>> > MB RAM that didn't take 20 minutes to login, even when we were a Novell
>> > Network.  Something definitely ain't correct there.
>> >
>> > It does sound like a challenge and it would be a blast to give it a shot
>> -
>> > if I lived closer.
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: tech-geeks-boun...@tech-geeks.org<mailto:
>> tech-geeks-boun...@tech-geeks.org>
>> > [mailto:tech-geeks-boun...@tech-geeks.org<mailto:
>> tech-geeks-boun...@tech-geeks.org>] On Behalf Of Mike Oliveri
>> > Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2010 7:08 PM
>> > To: Tech-Geeks Mailing List
>> > Subject: Re: [tech-geeks] Job Opening - Dir of Tech
>> >
>> > That's what I'm thinking.
>> >
>> > Mike
>> >
>> >
>> > On Oct 20, 2010, at 6:28 PM, Heath Henderson wrote:
>> >
>> >> Yes, failure, but from the creative standpoint, it sure would be fun to
>> > try. From the technical side (outside of the tech plan etc) it sure
>> would be
>> > challenging to try and get that system fixed back up right. Sounds like
>> the
>> > infrastructure is there though.
>> >>
>> >> -Heath Henderson
>> >>
>>  >> On Oct 20, 2010, at 5:07 PM, Jason Livezey <jlive...@nlsd122.org
>> <mailto:jlive...@nlsd122.org>> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> It is going to be really hard for a Director if he or she can't touch
>> > anything.  I have to manage things on a daily basis just so I can make
>> an
>> > educated decision about what I need and who is going to manage it.
>> > Obviously something is seriously wrong with their setup if they have
>> login
>> > times of 20+ minutes.  That basically means those machines are
>> useless...
>> >>>
>> >>> You would have to go backwards before you could go forward.   With
>> that
>> > current budget you could only spend about $7500K a building if you
>> divided
>> > equally.  With a district that big a budget like that for tech is just
>> bad.
>> >>>
>> >>> Talk about setting up for failure...
>> >>>
>> >>> JL
>> >>>
>> >>> On Oct 20, 2010, at 3:47 PM, Delawder, Scott wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>> Union District means no Hands on for the Director
>> >>>
>> >>> Jason Livezey
>> >>> Director of Technology
>> >>> New Lenox School District #122
>> >>> Cell: 815.693.9338
>> >>>
>> >>> ACMT Certified
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
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