The Tech-Geek special forces should storm the district get everything running 
then slowly disappear into the night.  That way whoever takes this job has a 
fighting chance of getting things turned around in the district.

JL

On Oct 22, 2010, at 7:35 AM, Scott Oyer wrote:

> In this case a lot -- because they are union...
> 
> On Oct 22, 2010, at 6:58 AM, Bill Purcell wrote:
> 
>> That was my first thought.. 20-30 min login.. Those techs should be fired... 
>> Was does it take to fire a tech for incompetence...
>> Percy
>> 
>> On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 11:26 AM, Eric Pingel <etpinge.l...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> might be a union deal that login times are 30-40 minutes
>> 
>> ----
>> Eric Pingel
>> Network Manager
>> Lake Bluff School District 65
>> epin...@lb65.org
>> 
>> On Oct 21, 2010, at 11:16 AM, Jim Flanagan wrote:
>> 
>>> don't forget, get the login tim down to 5 min. and you are a hero ;-)
>>> 
>>> On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 11:04 AM, Brian Tobin <brian.to...@dist428.org> 
>>> wrote:
>>> So it basically sounds like 80-90K a year to do nothing.  Ha!
>>> It would be interesting to see what kind of skill set the techs have, and 
>>> how bad the network config is.
>>> 
>>> Brian Tobin
>>> DeKalb Community Unit School District 428
>>> 901 s 4th st
>>> DeKalb, IL 60115
>>> brian.to...@dist428.org
>>> ilfastpi...@gmail.com
>>> W815.754.2284
>>> M302.468.6246
>>> ________________________________________
>>> From: tech-geeks-boun...@tech-geeks.org [tech-geeks-boun...@tech-geeks.org] 
>>> On Behalf Of Chris Franzen [chrisfran...@nokomis.k12.il.us]
>>> Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2010 11:03 AM
>>> To: Tech-Geeks Mailing List
>>> Subject: Re: [tech-geeks] Job Opening - Dir of Tech
>>> 
>>> Yeah that would be my problem as well.  I would be hands on and upset the 
>>> union.  good luck to anyone who wishes to truck down this path.
>>> Chris Franzen
>>> Technology Coordinator
>>> Nokomis School District
>>> 511 Oberle St.
>>> Nokomis, IL  62075
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 10:47 AM, T Suter 
>>> <suterscomput...@gmail.com<mailto:suterscomput...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>> I should clarify......I wasn't mad because I HAD to do the work.  It was 
>>> because I had several grievances filed against me because I WANTED to do 
>>> the work...and did.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 10:46 AM, T Suter 
>>> <suterscomput...@gmail.com<mailto:suterscomput...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>> Delawder,
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I remember back in a former life....being a supervisor in a factory. All my 
>>> floor personnel was union....and I wasn't of course.  While I could go on 
>>> and on about what I know of that experience, I'll just say that I was less 
>>> than happy several times when I would go to do some labor because a person 
>>> was sick.  The politics of that whole situation superimposed onto the 
>>> politics already manifested for a Director who DOESN'T have to deal with 
>>> union subordinates, screams Rolaids.  Does the benefit package have some 
>>> sort of comprehensive care/life insurance for stress related illnesses, 
>>> mental or physical, that is sure to take the Director down?
>>> 
>>> I guess if that budget is all the district can do for their technology, the 
>>> new courageous soul taking on that load of a position should be allowed to 
>>> enlist the most diligent and creative grant writer that would find some 
>>> tech funds for that budget to upgrade that heaping pile of a collision 
>>> domain.  While I believe that throwing money at something doesn't 
>>> necessarily always fix it....$300,000 a year for a tech budget of a school 
>>> that size with the problems it has.............- WOW!  Isn't that like an 
>>> early/mid 90's budget?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 10:11 AM, Mike Oliveri 
>>> <mike.oliv...@student.rb60.com<mailto:mike.oliv...@student.rb60.com>> wrote:
>>> I'm wondering if they're talking to Cat. State Farm gives out old equipment 
>>> in Bloomington, so I'm wondering if Cat does the same. They've got their 
>>> big offices downtown and facilities all over the area.
>>> 
>>> Mike
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Oct 21, 2010, at 10:03 AM, Richard Kasson wrote:
>>> 
>>> > Let me get this straight.  The techs are all union so the tech director
>>> > can't touch the equipment?  That's the scariest part.  Does that budget
>>> > figure include the salaries or are salaries separate.  If salaries are
>>> > separate, you can get creative and make it work.  I manage on $25,000 a 
>>> > year
>>> > or less depending on what my REAP grant is and whether Congress continues 
>>> > to
>>> > fund it.  You just have to find and use available resources that provide
>>> > things for free.  There is absolutely no reason that those techs shouldn't
>>> > be visiting Rock Island arsenal on a regular basis to take advantage of 
>>> > what
>>> > the Army is rotating out of service.  There's some pretty nice two and
>>> > three-year-old equipment available.  All it takes is someone to fill out 
>>> > the
>>> > paperwork and watch the website.
>>> >
>>> > That login thing is a bit worrisome.  I had 9 year old Celeron 600s with 
>>> > 64
>>> > MB RAM that didn't take 20 minutes to login, even when we were a Novell
>>> > Network.  Something definitely ain't correct there.
>>> >
>>> > It does sound like a challenge and it would be a blast to give it a shot -
>>> > if I lived closer.
>>> >
>>> > -----Original Message-----
>>> > From: 
>>> > tech-geeks-boun...@tech-geeks.org<mailto:tech-geeks-boun...@tech-geeks.org>
>>> > [mailto:tech-geeks-boun...@tech-geeks.org<mailto:tech-geeks-boun...@tech-geeks.org>]
>>> >  On Behalf Of Mike Oliveri
>>> > Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2010 7:08 PM
>>> > To: Tech-Geeks Mailing List
>>> > Subject: Re: [tech-geeks] Job Opening - Dir of Tech
>>> >
>>> > That's what I'm thinking.
>>> >
>>> > Mike
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > On Oct 20, 2010, at 6:28 PM, Heath Henderson wrote:
>>> >
>>> >> Yes, failure, but from the creative standpoint, it sure would be fun to
>>> > try. From the technical side (outside of the tech plan etc) it sure would 
>>> > be
>>> > challenging to try and get that system fixed back up right. Sounds like 
>>> > the
>>> > infrastructure is there though.
>>> >>
>>> >> -Heath Henderson
>>> >>
>>> >> On Oct 20, 2010, at 5:07 PM, Jason Livezey 
>>> >> <jlive...@nlsd122.org<mailto:jlive...@nlsd122.org>> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >>> It is going to be really hard for a Director if he or she can't touch
>>> > anything.  I have to manage things on a daily basis just so I can make an
>>> > educated decision about what I need and who is going to manage it.
>>> > Obviously something is seriously wrong with their setup if they have login
>>> > times of 20+ minutes.  That basically means those machines are useless...
>>> >>>
>>> >>> You would have to go backwards before you could go forward.   With that
>>> > current budget you could only spend about $7500K a building if you divided
>>> > equally.  With a district that big a budget like that for tech is just 
>>> > bad.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Talk about setting up for failure...
>>> >>>
>>> >>> JL
>>> >>>
>>> >>> On Oct 20, 2010, at 3:47 PM, Delawder, Scott wrote:
>>> >>>
>>> >>>> Union District means no Hands on for the Director
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Jason Livezey
>>> >>> Director of Technology
>>> >>> New Lenox School District #122
>>> >>> Cell: 815.693.9338
>>> >>>
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