Bad part is you need to evaluate for a year to see how they use it to know what 
is best for the cause!  I guess you could "maintain" and just fix what is 
broken and not working now. Maybe thatcoukd carry them through the year.

-Heath Henderson

On Oct 22, 2010, at 7:42 AM, Jason Livezey <jlive...@nlsd122.org> wrote:

> The Tech-Geek special forces should storm the district get everything running 
> then slowly disappear into the night.  That way whoever takes this job has a 
> fighting chance of getting things turned around in the district.
> 
> JL
> 
> On Oct 22, 2010, at 7:35 AM, Scott Oyer wrote:
> 
>> In this case a lot -- because they are union...
>> 
>> On Oct 22, 2010, at 6:58 AM, Bill Purcell wrote:
>> 
>>> That was my first thought.. 20-30 min login.. Those techs should be 
>>> fired... Was does it take to fire a tech for incompetence...
>>> Percy
>>> 
>>> On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 11:26 AM, Eric Pingel <etpinge.l...@gmail.com> 
>>> wrote:
>>> might be a union deal that login times are 30-40 minutes
>>> 
>>> ----
>>> Eric Pingel
>>> Network Manager
>>> Lake Bluff School District 65
>>> epin...@lb65.org
>>> 
>>> On Oct 21, 2010, at 11:16 AM, Jim Flanagan wrote:
>>> 
>>>> don't forget, get the login tim down to 5 min. and you are a hero ;-)
>>>> 
>>>> On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 11:04 AM, Brian Tobin <brian.to...@dist428.org> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>> So it basically sounds like 80-90K a year to do nothing.  Ha!
>>>> It would be interesting to see what kind of skill set the techs have, and 
>>>> how bad the network config is.
>>>> 
>>>> Brian Tobin
>>>> DeKalb Community Unit School District 428
>>>> 901 s 4th st
>>>> DeKalb, IL 60115
>>>> brian.to...@dist428.org
>>>> ilfastpi...@gmail.com
>>>> W815.754.2284
>>>> M302.468.6246
>>>> ________________________________________
>>>> From: tech-geeks-boun...@tech-geeks.org 
>>>> [tech-geeks-boun...@tech-geeks.org] On Behalf Of Chris Franzen 
>>>> [chrisfran...@nokomis.k12.il.us]
>>>> Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2010 11:03 AM
>>>> To: Tech-Geeks Mailing List
>>>> Subject: Re: [tech-geeks] Job Opening - Dir of Tech
>>>> 
>>>> Yeah that would be my problem as well.  I would be hands on and upset the 
>>>> union.  good luck to anyone who wishes to truck down this path.
>>>> Chris Franzen
>>>> Technology Coordinator
>>>> Nokomis School District
>>>> 511 Oberle St.
>>>> Nokomis, IL  62075
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 10:47 AM, T Suter 
>>>> <suterscomput...@gmail.com<mailto:suterscomput...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>> I should clarify......I wasn't mad because I HAD to do the work.  It was 
>>>> because I had several grievances filed against me because I WANTED to do 
>>>> the work...and did.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 10:46 AM, T Suter 
>>>> <suterscomput...@gmail.com<mailto:suterscomput...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>> Delawder,
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> I remember back in a former life....being a supervisor in a factory. All 
>>>> my floor personnel was union....and I wasn't of course.  While I could go 
>>>> on and on about what I know of that experience, I'll just say that I was 
>>>> less than happy several times when I would go to do some labor because a 
>>>> person was sick.  The politics of that whole situation superimposed onto 
>>>> the politics already manifested for a Director who DOESN'T have to deal 
>>>> with union subordinates, screams Rolaids.  Does the benefit package have 
>>>> some sort of comprehensive care/life insurance for stress related 
>>>> illnesses, mental or physical, that is sure to take the Director down?
>>>> 
>>>> I guess if that budget is all the district can do for their technology, 
>>>> the new courageous soul taking on that load of a position should be 
>>>> allowed to enlist the most diligent and creative grant writer that would 
>>>> find some tech funds for that budget to upgrade that heaping pile of a 
>>>> collision domain.  While I believe that throwing money at something 
>>>> doesn't necessarily always fix it....$300,000 a year for a tech budget of 
>>>> a school that size with the problems it has.............- WOW!  Isn't that 
>>>> like an early/mid 90's budget?
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 10:11 AM, Mike Oliveri 
>>>> <mike.oliv...@student.rb60.com<mailto:mike.oliv...@student.rb60.com>> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>> I'm wondering if they're talking to Cat. State Farm gives out old 
>>>> equipment in Bloomington, so I'm wondering if Cat does the same. They've 
>>>> got their big offices downtown and facilities all over the area.
>>>> 
>>>> Mike
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Oct 21, 2010, at 10:03 AM, Richard Kasson wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> > Let me get this straight.  The techs are all union so the tech director
>>>> > can't touch the equipment?  That's the scariest part.  Does that budget
>>>> > figure include the salaries or are salaries separate.  If salaries are
>>>> > separate, you can get creative and make it work.  I manage on $25,000 a 
>>>> > year
>>>> > or less depending on what my REAP grant is and whether Congress 
>>>> > continues to
>>>> > fund it.  You just have to find and use available resources that provide
>>>> > things for free.  There is absolutely no reason that those techs 
>>>> > shouldn't
>>>> > be visiting Rock Island arsenal on a regular basis to take advantage of 
>>>> > what
>>>> > the Army is rotating out of service.  There's some pretty nice two and
>>>> > three-year-old equipment available.  All it takes is someone to fill out 
>>>> > the
>>>> > paperwork and watch the website.
>>>> >
>>>> > That login thing is a bit worrisome.  I had 9 year old Celeron 600s with 
>>>> > 64
>>>> > MB RAM that didn't take 20 minutes to login, even when we were a Novell
>>>> > Network.  Something definitely ain't correct there.
>>>> >
>>>> > It does sound like a challenge and it would be a blast to give it a shot 
>>>> > -
>>>> > if I lived closer.
>>>> >
>>>> > -----Original Message-----
>>>> > From: 
>>>> > tech-geeks-boun...@tech-geeks.org<mailto:tech-geeks-boun...@tech-geeks.org>
>>>> > [mailto:tech-geeks-boun...@tech-geeks.org<mailto:tech-geeks-boun...@tech-geeks.org>]
>>>> >  On Behalf Of Mike Oliveri
>>>> > Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2010 7:08 PM
>>>> > To: Tech-Geeks Mailing List
>>>> > Subject: Re: [tech-geeks] Job Opening - Dir of Tech
>>>> >
>>>> > That's what I'm thinking.
>>>> >
>>>> > Mike
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > On Oct 20, 2010, at 6:28 PM, Heath Henderson wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> >> Yes, failure, but from the creative standpoint, it sure would be fun to
>>>> > try. From the technical side (outside of the tech plan etc) it sure 
>>>> > would be
>>>> > challenging to try and get that system fixed back up right. Sounds like 
>>>> > the
>>>> > infrastructure is there though.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> -Heath Henderson
>>>> >>
>>>> >> On Oct 20, 2010, at 5:07 PM, Jason Livezey 
>>>> >> <jlive...@nlsd122.org<mailto:jlive...@nlsd122.org>> wrote:
>>>> >>
>>>> >>> It is going to be really hard for a Director if he or she can't touch
>>>> > anything.  I have to manage things on a daily basis just so I can make an
>>>> > educated decision about what I need and who is going to manage it.
>>>> > Obviously something is seriously wrong with their setup if they have 
>>>> > login
>>>> > times of 20+ minutes.  That basically means those machines are useless...
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> You would have to go backwards before you could go forward.   With that
>>>> > current budget you could only spend about $7500K a building if you 
>>>> > divided
>>>> > equally.  With a district that big a budget like that for tech is just 
>>>> > bad.
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> Talk about setting up for failure...
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> JL
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> On Oct 20, 2010, at 3:47 PM, Delawder, Scott wrote:
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>> Union District means no Hands on for the Director
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> Jason Livezey
>>>> >>> Director of Technology
>>>> >>> New Lenox School District #122
>>>> >>> Cell: 815.693.9338
>>>> >>>
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