That could also be how they got into this position. If it's a revolving door 
position (which is what I'm afraid of given Peoria 150's notorious political 
and financial situation), everyone coming in could just be maintaining.

Mike



On Oct 22, 2010, at 8:02 AM, Heath Henderson wrote:

> Bad part is you need to evaluate for a year to see how they use it to know 
> what is best for the cause!  I guess you could "maintain" and just fix what 
> is broken and not working now. Maybe thatcoukd carry them through the year.
> 
> -Heath Henderson
> 
> On Oct 22, 2010, at 7:42 AM, Jason Livezey <jlive...@nlsd122.org> wrote:
> 
>> The Tech-Geek special forces should storm the district get everything 
>> running then slowly disappear into the night.  That way whoever takes this 
>> job has a fighting chance of getting things turned around in the district.
>> 
>> JL
>> 
>> On Oct 22, 2010, at 7:35 AM, Scott Oyer wrote:
>> 
>>> In this case a lot -- because they are union...
>>> 
>>> On Oct 22, 2010, at 6:58 AM, Bill Purcell wrote:
>>> 
>>>> That was my first thought.. 20-30 min login.. Those techs should be 
>>>> fired... Was does it take to fire a tech for incompetence...
>>>> Percy
>>>> 
>>>> On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 11:26 AM, Eric Pingel <etpinge.l...@gmail.com> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>> might be a union deal that login times are 30-40 minutes
>>>> 
>>>> ----
>>>> Eric Pingel
>>>> Network Manager
>>>> Lake Bluff School District 65
>>>> epin...@lb65.org
>>>> 
>>>> On Oct 21, 2010, at 11:16 AM, Jim Flanagan wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> don't forget, get the login tim down to 5 min. and you are a hero ;-)
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 11:04 AM, Brian Tobin <brian.to...@dist428.org> 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> So it basically sounds like 80-90K a year to do nothing.  Ha!
>>>>> It would be interesting to see what kind of skill set the techs have, and 
>>>>> how bad the network config is.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Brian Tobin
>>>>> DeKalb Community Unit School District 428
>>>>> 901 s 4th st
>>>>> DeKalb, IL 60115
>>>>> brian.to...@dist428.org
>>>>> ilfastpi...@gmail.com
>>>>> W815.754.2284
>>>>> M302.468.6246
>>>>> ________________________________________
>>>>> From: tech-geeks-boun...@tech-geeks.org 
>>>>> [tech-geeks-boun...@tech-geeks.org] On Behalf Of Chris Franzen 
>>>>> [chrisfran...@nokomis.k12.il.us]
>>>>> Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2010 11:03 AM
>>>>> To: Tech-Geeks Mailing List
>>>>> Subject: Re: [tech-geeks] Job Opening - Dir of Tech
>>>>> 
>>>>> Yeah that would be my problem as well.  I would be hands on and upset the 
>>>>> union.  good luck to anyone who wishes to truck down this path.
>>>>> Chris Franzen
>>>>> Technology Coordinator
>>>>> Nokomis School District
>>>>> 511 Oberle St.
>>>>> Nokomis, IL  62075
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 10:47 AM, T Suter 
>>>>> <suterscomput...@gmail.com<mailto:suterscomput...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>> I should clarify......I wasn't mad because I HAD to do the work.  It was 
>>>>> because I had several grievances filed against me because I WANTED to do 
>>>>> the work...and did.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 10:46 AM, T Suter 
>>>>> <suterscomput...@gmail.com<mailto:suterscomput...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>> Delawder,
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> I remember back in a former life....being a supervisor in a factory. All 
>>>>> my floor personnel was union....and I wasn't of course.  While I could go 
>>>>> on and on about what I know of that experience, I'll just say that I was 
>>>>> less than happy several times when I would go to do some labor because a 
>>>>> person was sick.  The politics of that whole situation superimposed onto 
>>>>> the politics already manifested for a Director who DOESN'T have to deal 
>>>>> with union subordinates, screams Rolaids.  Does the benefit package have 
>>>>> some sort of comprehensive care/life insurance for stress related 
>>>>> illnesses, mental or physical, that is sure to take the Director down?
>>>>> 
>>>>> I guess if that budget is all the district can do for their technology, 
>>>>> the new courageous soul taking on that load of a position should be 
>>>>> allowed to enlist the most diligent and creative grant writer that would 
>>>>> find some tech funds for that budget to upgrade that heaping pile of a 
>>>>> collision domain.  While I believe that throwing money at something 
>>>>> doesn't necessarily always fix it....$300,000 a year for a tech budget of 
>>>>> a school that size with the problems it has.............- WOW!  Isn't 
>>>>> that like an early/mid 90's budget?
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 10:11 AM, Mike Oliveri 
>>>>> <mike.oliv...@student.rb60.com<mailto:mike.oliv...@student.rb60.com>> 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> I'm wondering if they're talking to Cat. State Farm gives out old 
>>>>> equipment in Bloomington, so I'm wondering if Cat does the same. They've 
>>>>> got their big offices downtown and facilities all over the area.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Mike
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Oct 21, 2010, at 10:03 AM, Richard Kasson wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> > Let me get this straight.  The techs are all union so the tech director
>>>>> > can't touch the equipment?  That's the scariest part.  Does that budget
>>>>> > figure include the salaries or are salaries separate.  If salaries are
>>>>> > separate, you can get creative and make it work.  I manage on $25,000 a 
>>>>> > year
>>>>> > or less depending on what my REAP grant is and whether Congress 
>>>>> > continues to
>>>>> > fund it.  You just have to find and use available resources that provide
>>>>> > things for free.  There is absolutely no reason that those techs 
>>>>> > shouldn't
>>>>> > be visiting Rock Island arsenal on a regular basis to take advantage of 
>>>>> > what
>>>>> > the Army is rotating out of service.  There's some pretty nice two and
>>>>> > three-year-old equipment available.  All it takes is someone to fill 
>>>>> > out the
>>>>> > paperwork and watch the website.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > That login thing is a bit worrisome.  I had 9 year old Celeron 600s 
>>>>> > with 64
>>>>> > MB RAM that didn't take 20 minutes to login, even when we were a Novell
>>>>> > Network.  Something definitely ain't correct there.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > It does sound like a challenge and it would be a blast to give it a 
>>>>> > shot -
>>>>> > if I lived closer.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > -----Original Message-----
>>>>> > From: 
>>>>> > tech-geeks-boun...@tech-geeks.org<mailto:tech-geeks-boun...@tech-geeks.org>
>>>>> > [mailto:tech-geeks-boun...@tech-geeks.org<mailto:tech-geeks-boun...@tech-geeks.org>]
>>>>> >  On Behalf Of Mike Oliveri
>>>>> > Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2010 7:08 PM
>>>>> > To: Tech-Geeks Mailing List
>>>>> > Subject: Re: [tech-geeks] Job Opening - Dir of Tech
>>>>> >
>>>>> > That's what I'm thinking.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Mike
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> > On Oct 20, 2010, at 6:28 PM, Heath Henderson wrote:
>>>>> >
>>>>> >> Yes, failure, but from the creative standpoint, it sure would be fun to
>>>>> > try. From the technical side (outside of the tech plan etc) it sure 
>>>>> > would be
>>>>> > challenging to try and get that system fixed back up right. Sounds like 
>>>>> > the
>>>>> > infrastructure is there though.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> -Heath Henderson
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> On Oct 20, 2010, at 5:07 PM, Jason Livezey 
>>>>> >> <jlive...@nlsd122.org<mailto:jlive...@nlsd122.org>> wrote:
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>> It is going to be really hard for a Director if he or she can't touch
>>>>> > anything.  I have to manage things on a daily basis just so I can make 
>>>>> > an
>>>>> > educated decision about what I need and who is going to manage it.
>>>>> > Obviously something is seriously wrong with their setup if they have 
>>>>> > login
>>>>> > times of 20+ minutes.  That basically means those machines are 
>>>>> > useless...
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> You would have to go backwards before you could go forward.   With 
>>>>> >>> that
>>>>> > current budget you could only spend about $7500K a building if you 
>>>>> > divided
>>>>> > equally.  With a district that big a budget like that for tech is just 
>>>>> > bad.
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> Talk about setting up for failure...
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> JL
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> On Oct 20, 2010, at 3:47 PM, Delawder, Scott wrote:
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>>> Union District means no Hands on for the Director
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> Jason Livezey
>>>>> >>> Director of Technology
>>>>> >>> New Lenox School District #122
>>>>> >>> Cell: 815.693.9338
>>>>> >>>
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