Hey Tony, I was thinking of adding "subtiddler" as another optional 
parameter, then going along these lines:

<$list filter="$filter$" variable="parItem">
<$transclude tiddler=<<parItem>> subtiddler="$subtiddler$"/>

As you can see, I'm not quite imaginative enough to think of more than that 
😅. Please do share your ideas, and use the code present on the demo site 
to build something better (we can build them together, too, I just don't 
know how collabs work).

I'm also still mulling over using the Navigator widget, which requires the 
creation of additional tiddlers, with the absolute pro of not having to 
rely on temporary tiddlers... 🤔

On Monday, April 9, 2018 at 7:30:47 AM UTC+9, TonyM wrote:
> JD,
> I just tried this and it is very helpful. Thanks for the demo.
> I just applied it to a list of issues (items tagged Issues) and realised 
> It would be helpful to list the sub tiddlers.
> I have more ideas and some ideas about how to approach it, if you were to 
> develop it further but as you say this conversation is already under way.
> It seems a somewhat simpler approach is down this path.
> Regards
> Tony
> On Sunday, April 8, 2018 at 2:09:28 PM UTC+10, JD wrote:
>> I hastily created a wordy little macro that does the same thing, before I 
>> read your post, and now I feel stupid lol 
>> Still, I created a demo for the "paragraphs" macro, as seen here 
>> http://j.d.paragraphs.tiddlyspot.com/
>> But the navigator widget(?) method does look cleaner
>> EDIT: corrected URL
>> On Sunday, April 8, 2018 at 12:05:45 PM UTC+9, zemoxian wrote:
>>> Here's a barebones template to start from:
>>> <$navigator story="PE:story" history="PE:history">
>>> {{$:/core/ui/Buttons/new-tiddler}}
>>> <$list filter="[list[PE:story]]" template="$:/core/ui/ViewTemplate" 
>>> editTemplate="$:/core/ui/EditTemplate" 
>>> emptyMessage={{$:/config/EmptyStoryMessage}} />
>>> </$navigator>
>>>  You can create custom templates to replace $:/core/ui/EditTemplate and 
>>> $:/core/ui/EditTemplate with simpler templates with the required 
>>> functionality.
>>> For example the view template could be as simple as:
>>> <div>
>>> {{||$:/core/ui/Buttons/edit}}
>>> {{||move-up button}} {{||move-down button}}
>>> <div><$view field=title /></div>
>>> <div>
>>> <$transclude />
>>> </div>
>>> </div>
>>>  The move-up and down buttons would allow you to move paragraphs or 
>>> sections up and down.
>>> On Saturday, April 7, 2018 at 9:58:26 PM UTC-4, zemoxian wrote:
>>>> You could combine a navigator widget with a list widget and a couple of 
>>>> templates to manipulate multiple tiddlers from one tiddler.  This is 
>>>> actually how the story works in the PageTemplate.  I've done this in the 
>>>> past while fiddling with stuff.  The navigator widget handles manipulation 
>>>> of the story tiddler by handling messages from buttons on the view and 
>>>> edit 
>>>> templates for the sub tiddlers.  You can create, edit, delete, save, etc.  
>>>> You can also create buttons with list operations to sort or reorder the 
>>>> tiddlers. (I.e. move up 1, move down 1, move to top, move to bottom, etc.) 
>>>> So, it is possible to keep each sub tiddler as a single paragraph with its 
>>>> own title, tags, and fields and reorder them as needed.  It just depends 
>>>> on 
>>>> what features you want for a particular story editing app. It is a little 
>>>> tedious creating an app like this because you need to create the various 
>>>> templates and buttons, etc.
>>>> On Tuesday, April 3, 2018 at 12:46:29 PM UTC-4, Vytas wrote:
>>>>> I think it is not that important, whether you segment one tiddler by 
>>>>> its fields (if their content can indeed contain longer texts, links, 
>>>>> images..), or by creating new tiddlers within the primary tiddler, AS 
>>>>> LONG 
>>>>> AS you have the ability to EDIT those segments within the edit-window of 
>>>>> that primary tiddler. 
>>>>> Indeed, if you are writing a coherent text, tagging separate 
>>>>> paragraphs by excising those paragraphs into different tiddlers makes the 
>>>>> editing very cumbersome: you have to jump to those new tiddlers to edit 
>>>>> them and then come back to the primary tiddler to see the integral 
>>>>> result. 

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