Seems like a lot of effort when there are better tools for writing and outlining, like Dynalist or Workflowy.
David Gifford Mexico team leader, Mexico City *Resonate Global Mission* *Engaging People. Embracing Christ.* A Ministry of the Christian Reformed Church resonateglobalmission.org On Tue, Apr 10, 2018 at 8:17 AM, JD <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi Tony, you mean, like a full-blown outline, right? > > If that's so, I think, maybe, we can use the TOC template for this. And > instead of transcluding the title, we transclude the body of the text > (while still following the tag-tree structure). What do you think? > > My contribution in this will be slow during the weekdays (9 - 5 job + lots > of overtime gets in the way) > > This is exciting stuff. I'm thinking of using this to write a novelette. > > > On Tuesday, April 10, 2018 at 9:17:59 AM UTC+9, TonyM wrote: >> >> JD, >> >> Should we be using a new thread to collaborate otherwise we are somewhat >> hijacking the thread? >> >> Of note is I am using filters such as "[tag[WhitePaper]]" where it would >> be nice to either include all tiddlers tagged by the tiddlers that are >> tagged by WhitePaper like the Table of Contents macro >> >> I think there would be value being able to specify more than one filter >> as you suggest. >> >> For the moment I am just thinking will the second filter be wrapped >> inside the first? >> >> Imagine filter1 filter2 filter3 = chapter section paragraph >> >> So when listing paragraphs we only want to be listing those with the same >> chapter and section >> And ideally each filter will provide the sort order. >> >> I will return to this soon. >> >> Tony >> >> >> On Monday, April 9, 2018 at 10:24:26 PM UTC+10, JD wrote: >>> >>> Hey Tony, I was thinking of adding "subtiddler" as another optional >>> parameter, then going along these lines: >>> >>> <$list filter="$filter$" variable="parItem"> >>> <$transclude tiddler=<<parItem>> subtiddler="$subtiddler$"/> >>> </$list> >>> >>> As you can see, I'm not quite imaginative enough to think of more than >>> that 😅. Please do share your ideas, and use the code present on the >>> demo site to build something better (we can build them together, too, I >>> just don't know how collabs work). >>> >>> I'm also still mulling over using the Navigator widget, which requires >>> the creation of additional tiddlers, with the absolute pro of not having to >>> rely on temporary tiddlers... 🤔 >>> >>> >>> On Monday, April 9, 2018 at 7:30:47 AM UTC+9, TonyM wrote: >>>> >>>> JD, >>>> >>>> I just tried this and it is very helpful. Thanks for the demo. >>>> >>>> I just applied it to a list of issues (items tagged Issues) and >>>> realised It would be helpful to list the sub tiddlers. >>>> >>>> I have more ideas and some ideas about how to approach it, if you were >>>> to develop it further but as you say this conversation is already under >>>> way. >>>> >>>> It seems a somewhat simpler approach is down this path. >>>> >>>> >>>> Regards >>>> Tony >>>> >>>> On Sunday, April 8, 2018 at 2:09:28 PM UTC+10, JD wrote: >>>>> >>>>> I hastily created a wordy little macro that does the same thing, >>>>> before I read your post, and now I feel stupid lol >>>>> >>>>> Still, I created a demo for the "paragraphs" macro, as seen here >>>>> http://j.d.paragraphs.tiddlyspot.com/ >>>>> >>>>> But the navigator widget(?) method does look cleaner >>>>> >>>>> EDIT: corrected URL >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Sunday, April 8, 2018 at 12:05:45 PM UTC+9, zemoxian wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Here's a barebones template to start from: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> <$navigator story="PE:story" history="PE:history"> >>>>>> {{$:/core/ui/Buttons/new-tiddler}} >>>>>> <$list filter="[list[PE:story]]" template="$:/core/ui/ViewTemplate" >>>>>> editTemplate="$:/core/ui/EditTemplate" >>>>>> emptyMessage={{$:/config/EmptyStoryMessage}} >>>>>> /> >>>>>> </$navigator> >>>>>> >>>>>> You can create custom templates to replace $:/core/ui/EditTemplate >>>>>> and $:/core/ui/EditTemplate with simpler templates with the required >>>>>> functionality. >>>>>> >>>>>> For example the view template could be as simple as: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> <div> >>>>>> {{||$:/core/ui/Buttons/edit}} >>>>>> {{||move-up button}} {{||move-down button}} >>>>>> <div><$view field=title /></div> >>>>>> <div> >>>>>> <$transclude /> >>>>>> </div> >>>>>> </div> >>>>>> >>>>>> The move-up and down buttons would allow you to move paragraphs or >>>>>> sections up and down. >>>>>> >>>>>> On Saturday, April 7, 2018 at 9:58:26 PM UTC-4, zemoxian wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> You could combine a navigator widget with a list widget and a couple >>>>>>> of templates to manipulate multiple tiddlers from one tiddler. This is >>>>>>> actually how the story works in the PageTemplate. I've done this in the >>>>>>> past while fiddling with stuff. The navigator widget handles >>>>>>> manipulation >>>>>>> of the story tiddler by handling messages from buttons on the view and >>>>>>> edit >>>>>>> templates for the sub tiddlers. You can create, edit, delete, save, >>>>>>> etc. >>>>>>> You can also create buttons with list operations to sort or reorder the >>>>>>> tiddlers. (I.e. move up 1, move down 1, move to top, move to bottom, >>>>>>> etc.) >>>>>>> So, it is possible to keep each sub tiddler as a single paragraph with >>>>>>> its >>>>>>> own title, tags, and fields and reorder them as needed. It just >>>>>>> depends on >>>>>>> what features you want for a particular story editing app. It is a >>>>>>> little >>>>>>> tedious creating an app like this because you need to create the various >>>>>>> templates and buttons, etc. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Tuesday, April 3, 2018 at 12:46:29 PM UTC-4, Vytas wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I think it is not that important, whether you segment one tiddler >>>>>>>> by its fields (if their content can indeed contain longer texts, links, >>>>>>>> images..), or by creating new tiddlers within the primary tiddler, AS >>>>>>>> LONG >>>>>>>> AS you have the ability to EDIT those segments within the edit-window >>>>>>>> of >>>>>>>> that primary tiddler. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Indeed, if you are writing a coherent text, tagging separate >>>>>>>> paragraphs by excising those paragraphs into different tiddlers makes >>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>> editing very cumbersome: you have to jump to those new tiddlers to edit >>>>>>>> them and then come back to the primary tiddler to see the integral >>>>>>>> result. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the > Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. > To unsubscribe from this topic, visit https://groups.google.com/d/ > topic/tiddlywiki/RNqJR1s6ysk/unsubscribe. > To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to > [email protected]. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. > To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/ > msgid/tiddlywiki/c10abd87-c927-451c-84b7-c4e682748300%40googlegroups.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/c10abd87-c927-451c-84b7-c4e682748300%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> > . > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. 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