Should we be using a new thread to collaborate otherwise we are somewhat 
hijacking the thread?

Of note is I am using filters such as "[tag[WhitePaper]]" where it would be 
nice to either include all tiddlers tagged by the tiddlers that are tagged 
by WhitePaper like the Table of Contents macro

I think there would be value being able to specify more than one filter as 
you suggest.

For the moment I am just thinking will the second filter be wrapped inside 
the first?

Imagine filter1 filter2 filter3 = chapter section paragraph

So when listing paragraphs we only want to be listing those with the same 
chapter and section
And ideally each filter will provide the sort order.

I will return to this soon.


On Monday, April 9, 2018 at 10:24:26 PM UTC+10, JD wrote:
> Hey Tony, I was thinking of adding "subtiddler" as another optional 
> parameter, then going along these lines:
> <$list filter="$filter$" variable="parItem">
> <$transclude tiddler=<<parItem>> subtiddler="$subtiddler$"/>
> </$list>
> As you can see, I'm not quite imaginative enough to think of more than 
> that 😅. Please do share your ideas, and use the code present on the demo 
> site to build something better (we can build them together, too, I just 
> don't know how collabs work).
> I'm also still mulling over using the Navigator widget, which requires the 
> creation of additional tiddlers, with the absolute pro of not having to 
> rely on temporary tiddlers... 🤔
> On Monday, April 9, 2018 at 7:30:47 AM UTC+9, TonyM wrote:
>> JD,
>> I just tried this and it is very helpful. Thanks for the demo.
>> I just applied it to a list of issues (items tagged Issues) and realised 
>> It would be helpful to list the sub tiddlers.
>> I have more ideas and some ideas about how to approach it, if you were to 
>> develop it further but as you say this conversation is already under way.
>> It seems a somewhat simpler approach is down this path.
>> Regards
>> Tony
>> On Sunday, April 8, 2018 at 2:09:28 PM UTC+10, JD wrote:
>>> I hastily created a wordy little macro that does the same thing, before 
>>> I read your post, and now I feel stupid lol 
>>> Still, I created a demo for the "paragraphs" macro, as seen here 
>>> http://j.d.paragraphs.tiddlyspot.com/
>>> But the navigator widget(?) method does look cleaner
>>> EDIT: corrected URL
>>> On Sunday, April 8, 2018 at 12:05:45 PM UTC+9, zemoxian wrote:
>>>> Here's a barebones template to start from:
>>>> <$navigator story="PE:story" history="PE:history">
>>>> {{$:/core/ui/Buttons/new-tiddler}}
>>>> <$list filter="[list[PE:story]]" template="$:/core/ui/ViewTemplate" 
>>>> editTemplate="$:/core/ui/EditTemplate" 
>>>> emptyMessage={{$:/config/EmptyStoryMessage}} />
>>>> </$navigator>
>>>>  You can create custom templates to replace $:/core/ui/EditTemplate 
>>>> and $:/core/ui/EditTemplate with simpler templates with the required 
>>>> functionality.
>>>> For example the view template could be as simple as:
>>>> <div>
>>>> {{||$:/core/ui/Buttons/edit}}
>>>> {{||move-up button}} {{||move-down button}}
>>>> <div><$view field=title /></div>
>>>> <div>
>>>> <$transclude />
>>>> </div>
>>>> </div>
>>>>  The move-up and down buttons would allow you to move paragraphs or 
>>>> sections up and down.
>>>> On Saturday, April 7, 2018 at 9:58:26 PM UTC-4, zemoxian wrote:
>>>>> You could combine a navigator widget with a list widget and a couple 
>>>>> of templates to manipulate multiple tiddlers from one tiddler.  This is 
>>>>> actually how the story works in the PageTemplate.  I've done this in the 
>>>>> past while fiddling with stuff.  The navigator widget handles 
>>>>> manipulation 
>>>>> of the story tiddler by handling messages from buttons on the view and 
>>>>> edit 
>>>>> templates for the sub tiddlers.  You can create, edit, delete, save, etc. 
>>>>> You can also create buttons with list operations to sort or reorder the 
>>>>> tiddlers. (I.e. move up 1, move down 1, move to top, move to bottom, 
>>>>> etc.)  
>>>>> So, it is possible to keep each sub tiddler as a single paragraph with 
>>>>> its 
>>>>> own title, tags, and fields and reorder them as needed.  It just depends 
>>>>> on 
>>>>> what features you want for a particular story editing app. It is a little 
>>>>> tedious creating an app like this because you need to create the various 
>>>>> templates and buttons, etc.
>>>>> On Tuesday, April 3, 2018 at 12:46:29 PM UTC-4, Vytas wrote:
>>>>>> I think it is not that important, whether you segment one tiddler by 
>>>>>> its fields (if their content can indeed contain longer texts, links, 
>>>>>> images..), or by creating new tiddlers within the primary tiddler, AS 
>>>>>> LONG 
>>>>>> AS you have the ability to EDIT those segments within the edit-window of 
>>>>>> that primary tiddler. 
>>>>>> Indeed, if you are writing a coherent text, tagging separate 
>>>>>> paragraphs by excising those paragraphs into different tiddlers makes 
>>>>>> the 
>>>>>> editing very cumbersome: you have to jump to those new tiddlers to edit 
>>>>>> them and then come back to the primary tiddler to see the integral 
>>>>>> result. 

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