VACList-Digest Wednesday, January 16, 2002 Issue 183
Today's Topics:
1. Re: replacement heater (for 70's coaches)
2. Re: replacment heater
3. Re: replacment heater
4. Airstream Tri Coach
5. Wee-Wind
6. Re: Wee-Wind Sinks and Beds
7. Re: Outlook Express
8. 1959 World Traveler
9. Re: 1959 World Traveler
10. Re: 1959 World Traveler
11. Re: 1959 World Traveler
12. Re: Fw: Bio
13. Re: Fw: Bio
14. Re: 1959 World Traveler
15. Museum
16. Re: 1959 World Traveler
17. Re: replacement heater (for 70's coaches)
18. Re: replacment heater
19. Re: Airstream Tri Coach
20. Re: replacment heater
21. 60's model D.C. wireing
22. Re: 60's model D.C. wireing
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Message Number: 1
Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 19:42:05 -0500
From: Chris Bryant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: replacement heater (for 70's coaches)
Toby wrote:
>the chamber is essentially in internal box right? It
>appears to me to be a galvanized box that has several
>spot welds - something that can easily be fabricated.
>
>what else do I nee to know about this chamber - does i
>hold gas, or just heat?
As other have said- it does need to be "gas tight"- the object is
to have all of the combustion products vented to the outside. For a while
we were doing tests on a recalled Hydroflame furnace that involved putting
LP gas into the chamber, and checking for leaks with a combustible gas
detector- so they do have to be pressure tight.
Jim Combs wrote:
>On the 70's coaches, the outside walls angle outward
>as they rise up from the floor towards the middle band
>of the trailer. The Suburban I pulled out of mine
>has this angle built into it. ie - the top protrudes
>an inch or two out from the bottom. Can you get a
>new one with this built-in angle? If not, has anyone
>found a way to deal with this using a standard model?
The new Suburban furnaces have telescoping inlet and outlet tubes-
the outside edge does *not* have to be flush against the outside skin.
________
Chris Bryant
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Message Number: 2
Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 18:05:38 -0800
From: Leslie Dow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: replacment heater
Thanks to all of you who responded to my post! I am not exactly sure
what we will do now, but I am really leaning toward Cat, vented if possible.
I have heard back from Arnie Lind at TSI. He tells me that they do not
manufacture them anymore but will make them to order...and they have a 4
week lead time. He also tells me that they are planning to start
manufacturing full time in 2002.
thanks again!
leslie
Jim Dunmyer wrote:
>
> Gerald,
> What do any of those have to do with a catalytic heater?
>
> Frankly, I feel a bit safer with the cat running than the 30-year-old
> Suburban furnace.....
>
> <<Jim>>
>
> Dr. Gerald N. Johnson, electrical engineer wrote:
>
> > We worriers have been treated to CO courtesy of VW engine heaters,
> > Suburban furnace in SOB, and broken heat exchanger in house furnace.
> > After those events, we don't believe in being the test objects for any
> > heating device. At least that's my viewpoint.
> >
> > Gerald J.
> >
>
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Message Number: 3
Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 20:40:30 -0600
From: "Dr. Gerald N. Johnson, electrical engineer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: replacment heater
Uses the same fuel, produces combustion products, uses oxygen from the
heated space. CO poisoning feels really bad. Can be deadly. Bashing
one's head against a brick wall is relatively pleasant compared to the
headache CO makes.
Gerald J.
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Message Number: 4
Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 21:43:41 EST
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Airstream Tri Coach
In a message dated 1/15/02 4:29:12 PM Pacific Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
<< James Greene wrote:
> Got to ask. What is a Airstream Tri-Coach. Never heard of it in my 30 years
> of Airstreaming give or take.
>
> Jim Greene
> ' 68 Tradewind >>
Would someone take a look at this thing? Sure it's not got 3 axels for some
reason? Sounds interesting.....
Wendy
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Message Number: 5
Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 18:51:14 -0800
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Wee-Wind
I just purchased a 1949 Wee-Wind in pretty decent shape. The shell is
solid, the cabinets original and pretty decent shape, the stove original
and
working, electrical fine, interior floors need replacing, the sink in
place,
and beds removed. I found a site that had plans for beds generally.
The
sink is the kicker. What are the options for water pumps and heaters.
Sorry if this is a novice question, but I'm just hitting the road so to
speak.
Hello Gerry,
Welcome to the VAC list from a fellow WW owner. I'm sure you will
receive lot's of advice on how to structure your water system. There
are manual pumps available to hook to an onboard water tank. For an
electric pump you will need to plan a 12 volt system. There are a
couple of options on the heater and you will need to decide if you want
a gas (needs venting), electric (needs a 110 supply) so it really
depends on how you intend to use your trailer. Please feel free to
contact me on or off list if there is anything I can do to help in your
restoration.
Have fun at it!
Paul #2580
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Message Number: 6
Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 22:11:42 -0500
From: Daisy Welch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Wee-Wind Sinks and Beds
Sailboats use those hand pumps, so try there. I'm thinking of one for
boondocking to save electricity and water.
Daisy
Jim Dunmyer wrote:
>
> Gerry,
> You have a couple of options for water at the sink:
>
> An on-demand pump as used in all modern RVs
>
> Or:
>
> One of those hand-pump things like they used to use. It wouldn't
> surprise me if they're still used in pop-up campers, so should still be
> available.
>
> <<Jim>>
>
> Gerald Weber wrote:
>
> > I just purchased a 1949 Wee-Wind in pretty decent shape. The shell is
> > solid, the cabinets original and pretty decent shape, the stove original and
> > working, electrical fine, interior floors need replacing, the sink in place,
> > and beds removed. I found a site that had plans for beds generally. The
> > sink is the kicker. What are the options for water pumps and heaters.
> > Sorry if this is a novice question, but I'm just hitting the road so to
> > speak.
> >
> >
> > Gerry Weber
> >
>
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Message Number: 7
Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 19:58:47 -0800
From: Webmaster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Outlook Express
Macintosh:
Edit>Preferences>Compose & change the "HTML" to Plain Text.
Windows:
Tools>Options>Send & change mail sending format to plain text. Click
advance options and change to word wrap at 76 lines.
RJ
VAC Webmaster
>
> While I'm at it...can anyone tell me where to toggle my Internet Explorer
> Outlook Express (POS) to use wider lines and avoid a) the = sign word breaks
> and b) the gobbldygook at the end of every posting? I'm amazed how bad my
> postings look, but then clear up when replied to. You folks make me look
> good, I guess
> Jeff Miller
> 69 Overjustified
> 01Durango
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Message Number: 8
Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 20:19:39 -0800
From: Webmaster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: 1959 World Traveler
Just when you've seen it all, something comes out of the blue.
I get a lot of photographs of Airstreams due to the two websites. This week
I had someone send me some photo's of a .... 1959 22 foot World Traveler!
http://VintageAirstream.com/archives1/59WorldTraveler/59WorldTraveler.html
Never heard of it? Only 7 were made in 1958-1959. The whole idea was for
use in Overseas Caravans. Idea never really caught on. They had dual axles
(only 22 footer with them), large tanks, large bath across the rear, large
wardrobes, International trim w/ dual 12 volt system (12v was very rare in
1958), fully self-contained, high end appliances, etc.
Here's the kicker. The guy bought it and promptly spent 4 days ripping out
the interior and feeding it to a burn barrel in Missouri, appliances,
fixtures and all..... Auuggh! He needed something to move to Florida
with.
The registration even had the World Traveler as the model name.
Just thought I'd share some of the fun....
Later,
RJ
VintageAIrstream.com
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Message Number: 9
Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 21:36:40 -0700
From: Brad Norgaard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: 1959 World Traveler
RJ,
You mean to say he gutted it to use it as a U-Haul? Auuggh! doesn't even
begin to describe it. I don't suppose there are any interior pic's then?
Brad Norgaard
'59 Trade Wind
Phoenix
WBCCI #2699, VAC
> Just when you've seen it all, something comes out of the blue.
>
> I get a lot of photographs of Airstreams due to the two websites. This week
> I had someone send me some photo's of a .... 1959 22 foot World Traveler!
>
> http://VintageAirstream.com/archives1/59WorldTraveler/59WorldTraveler.html
>
> Never heard of it? Only 7 were made in 1958-1959. The whole idea was for
> use in Overseas Caravans. Idea never really caught on. They had dual axles
> (only 22 footer with them), large tanks, large bath across the rear, large
> wardrobes, International trim w/ dual 12 volt system (12v was very rare in
> 1958), fully self-contained, high end appliances, etc.
>
> Here's the kicker. The guy bought it and promptly spent 4 days ripping out
> the interior and feeding it to a burn barrel in Missouri, appliances,
> fixtures and all..... Auuggh! He needed something to move to Florida
> with.
>
> The registration even had the World Traveler as the model name.
>
> Just thought I'd share some of the fun....
>
> Later,
> RJ
> VintageAIrstream.com
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Message Number: 10
Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2002 00:36:16 EST
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: 1959 World Traveler
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In a message dated 1/15/02 8:41:35 PM Pacific Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> You mean to say he gutted it to use it as a U-Haul? Auuggh! doesn't even
> begin to describe it. I don't suppose there are any interior pic's then?
>
>
You would think that simply being a relativly intact vehicle that is around
40 years old would be a screaming heads up to check it out before basicly
destroying it. Of course at least half a functioning brain is required.
Trike
'53 Cruiser (frame off in progress)
'62 Safari (goin' campin' in this one)
Go ahead flame me ,I don't care. At least I didn't say anything about
possible inbreeding being involved.
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You would think that simply being a relativly intact vehicle that is around 40 years
old would be a screaming heads up to check it out before basicly destroying it. Of
course at least half a functioning brain is required.<BR>
Trike<BR>
'53 Cruiser (frame off in progress)<BR>
'62 Safari (goin' campin' in this one)<BR>
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Message Number: 11
Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2002 06:17:08 -0800 (PST)
From: Doug Rowbottom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: 1959 World Traveler
It's been reported that Wallys Gold trailer is a 1957
World Traveller. It's sitting on the lot at the
factory in Jackson Center. I will be going there in
about a month and will try to get pictures if they
will let me get close.
Doug
--- Webmaster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Just when you've seen it all, something comes out of
> the blue.
>
> I get a lot of photographs of Airstreams due to the
> two websites. This week
> I had someone send me some photo's of a .... 1959 22
> foot World Traveler!
>
>
http://VintageAirstream.com/archives1/59WorldTraveler/59WorldTraveler.html
>
> Never heard of it? Only 7 were made in 1958-1959.
> The whole idea was for
> use in Overseas Caravans. Idea never really caught
> on. They had dual axles
> (only 22 footer with them), large tanks, large bath
> across the rear, large
> wardrobes, International trim w/ dual 12 volt system
> (12v was very rare in
> 1958), fully self-contained, high end appliances,
> etc.
>
> Here's the kicker. The guy bought it and promptly
> spent 4 days ripping out
> the interior and feeding it to a burn barrel in
> Missouri, appliances,
> fixtures and all..... Auuggh! He needed something
> to move to Florida
> with.
>
> The registration even had the World Traveler as the
> model name.
>
> Just thought I'd share some of the fun....
>
> Later,
> RJ
> VintageAIrstream.com
>
>
>
>
>
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Message Number: 12
Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2002 22:27:35 +0800
From: "randy unter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Fw: Bio
RM VAC group and the Denver Chapter of WBCCI are having a Spring Maintentance Rally in
late April. See details below. It's a great opportunity to prep your a/s' for Summer
and meet with knowledgeable Airstreamers, swap old stuff you don't need, and learn
Randy Unter
'66 Overlander
VAC Region 11 Representative
-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 22:46:35 EST
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Bio
Would you believe Randy I wrote a long article to only loose it at the last
period. Here goes again.
We have a personal invitation to join the Denver Airstream Unit at their
first rally for 2002 directly from Louie De Carolis, President. The location
is just east of Denver about 30 miles just off I-70 at Exit 305. The rally
will feature a garage sale for all those unwanted camping items, a visit to
the Colorado Donkey Rescue, dinner down the road a piece at Antelope Hills
Country Club, after dinner camp fires in the barn and general relaxation on
the open plains. Camping fee is a wopin $3.00 for electrical service and
water begining 4/26 - 28/02. Early arrivals are welcome to come in on 4/22/02
with limited service until 4/25/02. Early entertainment includes, feeding the
livestock, hearding barn cats, and generally basking in the sun. On Saturday
afternoon we are encouraged to have an open trailer tour for the nubees to
our way of camping. Once you exit I-70 look for the first house on your left
going south. Take the second entrance and proceed to the rear of the house
next to the barns. Rancher Ken Ainesworth will greet the early arrivals with
Denver Unit members welcoming the the remainder of attendees. Our very own
Fred Coldwell, VAC Historian will be speaking to the Denver Unit on some
facet of Airstream history. This is a must rally!!!!!!!!
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Message Number: 13
Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2002 22:30:59 +0800
From: "randy unter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Fw: Bio
Sorry, the subject was incorrect.
-----Original Message-----
From: "randy unter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wed, 16 Jan 2002 22:27:35 +0800
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Fw: Re: Bio
RM VAC group and the Denver Chapter of WBCCI are having a Spring Maintentance Rally in
late April. See details below. It's a great opportunity to prep your a/s' for Summer
and meet with knowledgeable Airstreamers, swap old stuff you don't need, and learn
Randy Unter
'66 Overlander
VAC Region 11 Representative
-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 22:46:35 EST
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Bio
Would you believe Randy I wrote a long article to only loose it at the last
period. Here goes again.
We have a personal invitation to join the Denver Airstream Unit at their
first rally for 2002 directly from Louie De Carolis, President. The location
is just east of Denver about 30 miles just off I-70 at Exit 305. The rally
will feature a garage sale for all those unwanted camping items, a visit to
the Colorado Donkey Rescue, dinner down the road a piece at Antelope Hills
Country Club, after dinner camp fires in the barn and general relaxation on
the open plains. Camping fee is a wopin $3.00 for electrical service and
water begining 4/26 - 28/02. Early arrivals are welcome to come in on 4/22/02
with limited service until 4/25/02. Early entertainment includes, feeding the
livestock, hearding barn cats, and generally basking in the sun. On Saturday
afternoon we are encouraged to have an open trailer tour for the nubees to
our way of camping. Once you exit I-70 look for the first house on your left
going south. Take the second entrance and proceed to the rear of the house
next to the barns. Rancher Ken Ainesworth will greet the early arrivals with
Denver Unit members welcoming the the remainder of attendees. Our very own
Fred Coldwell, VAC Historian will be speaking to the Denver Unit on some
facet of Airstream history. This is a must rally!!!!!!!!
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Message Number: 14
Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2002 08:45:48 -0600
From: "Don Hardman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: 1959 World Traveler
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left. That's a shame. But another scary thought is what will eventually =
happen to the vintage trailers that we have, since these trailers will =
certainly last longer than we will. I wake up in a cold sweats just =
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Message Number: 15
Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2002 10:29:26 -0500
From: "Robert Petersen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Museum
I was at the factory last Spring, and after taking the usual tour of the
factory, I did notice Wally's Gold Trailer parked on a lot close by. It's
sitting next to many other trailers of note, especially a very early Flying
Cloud of unknown year, probably late 30's, judging from the nautical style
windows. The tour guide said they're planning to build a museum to house
the trailers, but the groundwork has not been finalized as of yet, or at
least as of last Spring. Now, that's something that VAC could probably
participate in! Bob
[Original Message]
> > From: Doug Rowbottom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: Multiple recipients of VACList <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Date: 1/16/02 9:17:08 AM
> > Subject: [VAC] Re: 1959 World Traveler
> >
> > It's been reported that Wallys Gold trailer is a 1957
> > World Traveller. It's sitting on the lot at the
> > factory in Jackson Center. I will be going there in
> > about a month and will try to get pictures if they
> > will let me get close.
> > Doug
> >
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Message Number: 16
Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2002 10:44:32 EST
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: 1959 World Traveler
My daughter and son in law lust after my GT so maybe my AS will live on
relatively intact, I hope. I am putting it in my will for them. We have
gone on several trips together using the AS, but we do make my SIL sleep in a
tent, GT is not big enough for 3 large persons and a big black dog!
Just Plain Polly
1964 Globe Trotter
Colorado
WBCCI 7113
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Message Number: 17
Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2002 10:20:10 -0600
From: "Jim Combs"<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: replacement heater (for 70's coaches)
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Thanks, Chris. This certainly simplifies replacement.
Later,
Jimbo / '76 Sovereign
-----Original Message-----
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>
> The new Suburban furnaces have telescoping inlet and outlet tubes-
>the outside edge does *not* have to be flush against the outside skin.
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Message Number: 18
Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2002 11:45:02 -0500
From: Jim Dunmyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: replacment heater
Gerald,
I'm not questioning the dangers of CO poisoning. What I AM questioning
is the danger of same from a properly operated non-vented catalytic
heater. My opinion is that there isn't much.
OTOH: I'm sure that there are folks who will make sure that their heater
is right up to snuff, turn off all propane while travelling, check the
campground outlet for polarity, etc. to be certain of safety. Then, turn
right around and pull their A/S with an inadaquet tow vehicle and
marginal brakes and crappy safety chains on the trailer. By far the
greatest danger to trailerites is when towing, so that's what *I* choose
to worry about the most.
<<Jim>>
Dr. Gerald N. Johnson, electrical engineer wrote:
> Uses the same fuel, produces combustion products, uses oxygen from the
> heated space. CO poisoning feels really bad. Can be deadly. Bashing
> one's head against a brick wall is relatively pleasant compared to the
> headache CO makes.
>
> Gerald J.
>
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Message Number: 19
Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2002 13:55:41 -0500
From: "Dash7 (Michigan)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Airstream Tri Coach
I suspect "Tri-Coach" is the seller's attempt to abbreviate "Trailer-Coach"
to meet the letter count for a classified ad.
Don (MI)
>In a message dated 1/15/02 4:29:12 PM Pacific Standard Time,
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>
><< James Greene wrote:
>
> > Got to ask. What is a Airstream Tri-Coach. Never heard of it in my > >
>30 years
> > of Airstreaming give or take.
> >
> > Jim Greene
> > ' 68 Tradewind >>
>
>Would someone take a look at this thing? Sure it's not got 3 axels for
>some
>reason? Sounds interesting.....
>
>Wendy
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Message Number: 20
Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2002 13:45:13 -0600
From: "Dr. Gerald N. Johnson, electrical engineer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: replacment heater
Still having recognized the effects of CO, I'm loath to share my air
with a heater, and to inhale the combustion products even if generally
benign... I prefer force vented, since I don't like the taste of burnt
propane.
For sure, inadequate tow vehicles, brakes, and safety chains (probably S
hooks are the worst possible safety idea) do make the road to be unsafe
for all sharing that road. Not necessarily independent of the effects of
CO or the effects of long hours on long haul drivers in big rigs. But in
the context of discussing heaters these other areas of safety concern
are not in context though they need to be of equal concern to the whole
trip.
Gerald J.
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Message Number: 21
Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2002 15:46:16 -0500
From: "Red" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: 60's model D.C. wireing
Hi,
Does anyone see any problem with using 12-2 with ground copper wire for the
D.C. circuits? Like the interior lights and fans. The wire that was there
was a 12 guage aluminum wire. Thanks for any feed back. Dave
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Message Number: 22
Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2002 15:53:05 -0600
From: "Dr. Gerald N. Johnson, electrical engineer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: 60's model D.C. wireing
Because stranded wire stands vibration better than solid wire, I prefer
a stranded wire for all the trailer wiring. I realize the existing 120
volt wires are solid, but I still prefer they were stranded. The only
other problem is future confusion by seeing the wire, whether its 120 or
12 volts. Perhaps it needs to be tagged regularly.
And there's potential for confusion on polarity. Typically black is
ground or -12 and colors, like red, are the +12. In AC wiring black is
hot and white is grounded at the panel to be neutral. Crossed polarity
in AC can be a safety hazard with some appliances. Crossed polarity at
DC can cause destruction of any electronics connected wrong. So polarity
confusion needs to be cured by the wire color selection and care in
wiring which is upset by using 12-2 WG romex for DC wiring.
Many amateur radio parts stores as well as RV accessory stores carry
stranded wire in various gauges bonded in pairs intended precisely for
DC wiring with the wire colors red and black.
12 gauge copper will carry more current for the same voltage drop (or
heat) than 12 gauge aluminum.
Gerald J.
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