VACList-Digest Thursday, January 24, 2002 Issue 191
Today's Topics:
1. Re: Wee-Wind Tongue Needs Help!
2. Re: 1958 Overlander Parts
3. 1954 & 1955 Catalogs
4. Re: /black tank 54 safari
5. Re: 1966, 1967, 1968 & 1979 catalogs
6. VAC Restoration Project
7. For Sale
8. Re: For Sale
9. Hitch set up
10. Re: 1966, 1967, 1968 & 1979 catalogs
11. Re: Hitch set up
12. Re: Hitch set up
13. Re:
14. Re:
15. Re: Hitch set up
16. Re: Wee-Wind Tongue Needs Help!
17. 1976 A/S at RV Trader
18. Re: VAC Restoration Project
19. Re: 1976 A/S at RV Trader
20. Re: Hitch set up
21. Re: 1976 A/S at RV Trader
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Message Number: 1
Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2002 21:20:48 -0600
From: "gina terrell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Wee-Wind Tongue Needs Help!
must have broke your heart
gina
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>My new Wee-Wind only made it nine miles from the seller before the tongue
>broke!
>It was almost history. Anyhow, I'm desperately in need of advice, and have
>photos to explain the current sad status.
>
>Thanks folks!
>
>Gerald Weber
>142 Mitchell Street, Suite 301
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Message Number: 2
Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2002 20:04:30 -0800
From: Webmaster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: 1958 Overlander Parts
There is a 1950's Krefft owners manual in the VAC members archive area,
along with the pile of papers a 1958 buyer would have received. There are
also some late 1950's Airstream catalogs there and brochures taht would be
of interest.
http://www.airstream.org
Great value for your $10 annual dues!
RJ
> From: "T. Byrd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2002 00:46:06 -0700
> To: Multiple recipients of VACList <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: [VAC] 1958 Overlander Parts
>
> Greetings (again!),
>
> As stated in a prior email, we have just purchased a 1958 Overlander
> twin model. The sale will be completed today, so I have not yet joined
> the WBCCI or the VAC, but they are high on the list of priorities. We're
> excited and proud to finally be actively participating in this
> fascinating community!
>
> Right off the bat, I'd like to pester y'all with several questions:
>
> 1. Is it possible to find any information on this model and year of
> trailer? I'm looking for an owner's manual, and any information on the
> original appliances and fixtures. I know service manuals aren't
> available, but I'm also interested in any and all service information
> that might be available. Also a wiring diagram, if available, would be a
> great help.
> 3. It still has what looks like an original Kreft fridge. It works fine
> on propane, but the electric heating element is kaput. Does anyone know
> where to find a suitable replacement?
>
> Any advice, tips, and tricks would be greatly appreciated. Thanks for
> being here!
>
> Ted Byrd
> 1958 Overlander :)
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Message Number: 3
Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2002 20:16:53 -0800
From: Webmaster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: 1954 & 1955 Catalogs
Speaking of the VAC archives. Recently I uploaded a 1954 Catalog and a full
color 1955 Catalog. That now gives us catalogs there from the following
years:
1937
1951 (Color)
1954
1955 (Color)
1959
1964 (Color)
And Fred Coldwell just obtained some 1960's & 1970's catalogs that we'll be
putting up soon. Anyone have any others?? Contact Fred at
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
More importantly, over the last two weeks I have been able to reduce the
file size on all the documents in the archives, including the back issues of
the Vintage Advantage, by 75%!! That will really shorten the download
tines.
RJ
VAC Webmaster
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Message Number: 4
Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2002 20:21:39 -0800
From: Webmaster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: /black tank 54 safari
Try here for some options:
http://www.airstream.org/faqs.html#plumbing
Black water tanks usually are square flat tanks that set on the subfloor
with the throne mounted on top, surrounded by an enclosure - Masonite in the
1950's, fiberglass in the 1960's.
RJ
> From: jim graves <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2002 23:07:49 -0500
> To: Multiple recipients of VACList <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: [VAC] Re: /black tank 54 safari
>
>
> hey folks,
> can anybody help me locate a black tank that will fit a 54 safari. can it
> mount between floor and the belly pan? it had an external unit that looked
> like a colostomy bag that had mercifully been destroyed by a speed bump.
> also, what is the prevailing wisdom on underfloor insulation.
> jim graves
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Message Number: 5
Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2002 21:27:12 -0700
From: "Fred Coldwell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: 1966, 1967, 1968 & 1979 catalogs
Webmaster wrote:
>
> Speaking of the VAC archives. Recently I uploaded a 1954 Catalog and a full
> color 1955 Catalog. That now gives us catalogs there from the following
> years:
> 1937
> 1951 (Color)
> 1954
> 1955 (Color)
> 1959
> 1964 (Color)
>
> And Fred Coldwell just obtained some 1960's & 1970's catalogs that we'll be
> putting up soon. Anyone have any others?? Contact Fred at
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
***********
The four Airstream sales catalogs I just acquired are for
1966, 1967, 1968 and 1979. I'll get these scanned and to RJ
for posting shortly.
Fred Coldwell
VAC Archive Historian
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Message Number: 6
Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2002 23:54:05 -0500
From: "Wayne A. Moore" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: VAC Restoration Project
Hi Gang,
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Restoration Project!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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As some of you know I'm in the process of restoring a '65 Caravel.
This weekend I removed the body shell from the frame and dragged the
frame out to be repaired. This trailer had taken a rough ride off the road
and the frame was broken in 4 places so I'm having all the repairs done by a
friend.
Check out this link for the pics!!
http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/wam52/lst?&.dir=/%2765+Caravel&.src=ph&.view=t
Hopefully I will get the frame back his weekend so I can start sandblast and
paint and maybe get the shell back on the frame. Then I will continue to
replace all the lower outside Aluminum shell with .040 Alclad 2024T3 sheets
purchased from Aircraftspruce:
http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catmain.php?dest=cathome.html
The existing panels have deep gouges, dents, old utility holes and are in
generally poor condition. Keep checking back to monitor my progress!
Later
WAM
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Message Number: 7
Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2002 00:13:50 -0600
From: "Faith Navarro" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: For Sale
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Message Number: 8
Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2002 03:14:32 -0500
From: "Mr. Joy H. Hansen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: For Sale
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Hi Faith,
I'm assuming that you mean that the Airstream is a "1974" Land Yacht? =
What are you asking for the unit? Do you have pictures?
Please send your reply to my off-list address [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Thanks,
'69 Safari, Joy
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Message Number: 9
Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2002 06:40:50 EST
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Hitch set up
Hello Airstreamers,
As I get set up to pull my '71 Tradewind for the first time I have some
questions about my hitch set up. My truck is a 3/4 ton Dodge 4X4 that has the
top of the hitch receiver opening at 23 3/4" high. I got the Reese weight
distributing and anti sway stuff. I got the adjustable draw bar with the
longer drop and the lowest setting puts the ball still 1 1/2" higher than the
19 1/2" specified by the Airstream manual. I'm wondering how critical these
dimensions are. It seems to me that since they show passenger cars pulling
the trailers back then that 19 1/2 to the top of the ball might have been
taking into account the effect of the tongue weight on the car springs to be
then leveled with the weight distributing set up. My whole situation seems to
indicate to me that I'm at the opposite end of the effective range of the
weight distribution possibilities. Since I have no experience with any of
this I wonder if there are any factors I am not taking into account. I have
not really checked it out on a level spot yet. Keeping the driveway plowed is
more of a priority right now. I did drop the trailer onto the ball and the
truck came down a couple of inches. There is some stuff stored in the
trailer, possibly simulating a loaded for travel situation. If the trailer
and truck are basically level does it matter if I'm at the bottom end, so to
speak, of the weight distribution set up or is that 1 1/2" difference going
to lever my front wheels up? I'm just hoping this set up will be close enough
without having another drop bar fabricated. Anyway, I think you get the
picture. I'm sure I'm not the first to deal with this.
Best Regards,
Erik Murray
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Message Number: 10
Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2002 08:51:04 -0500
From: "Nick Novia" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: 1966, 1967, 1968 & 1979 catalogs
My entire '68 brochure is at my website. Feel free to use it.
Nick Novia Ct
'68 safari
WBCCI #2577
WDCU
VAC
Bluegrasser
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://photos.yahoo.com/bptcityboy
> The four Airstream sales catalogs I just acquired are for
> 1966, 1967, 1968 and 1979. I'll get these scanned and to RJ
> for posting shortly.
>
> Fred Coldwell
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Message Number: 11
Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2002 09:29:16 -0500
From: "Scott Scheuermann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Hitch set up
Erik,
I am no expert here, but I would THINK that if your trailer rides level that
you would be OK. To do this you may have to "drop a link or two" on the
weight distribution bars. Basically you want both the trailer and tow
vehicle to be level.
Scott
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To: "Multiple recipients of VACList" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2002 6:40 AM
Subject: [VAC] Hitch set up
> Hello Airstreamers,
> As I get set up to pull my '71 Tradewind for the first time I have some
> questions about my hitch set up. My truck is a 3/4 ton Dodge 4X4 that has
the
> top of the hitch receiver opening at 23 3/4" high. I got the Reese weight
> distributing and anti sway stuff. I got the adjustable draw bar with the
> longer drop and the lowest setting puts the ball still 1 1/2" higher than
the
> 19 1/2" specified by the Airstream manual. I'm wondering how critical
these
> dimensions are. It seems to me that since they show passenger cars pulling
> the trailers back then that 19 1/2 to the top of the ball might have been
> taking into account the effect of the tongue weight on the car springs to
be
> then leveled with the weight distributing set up. My whole situation seems
to
> indicate to me that I'm at the opposite end of the effective range of the
> weight distribution possibilities. Since I have no experience with any of
> this I wonder if there are any factors I am not taking into account. I
have
> not really checked it out on a level spot yet. Keeping the driveway plowed
is
> more of a priority right now. I did drop the trailer onto the ball and the
> truck came down a couple of inches. There is some stuff stored in the
> trailer, possibly simulating a loaded for travel situation. If the trailer
> and truck are basically level does it matter if I'm at the bottom end, so
to
> speak, of the weight distribution set up or is that 1 1/2" difference
going
> to lever my front wheels up? I'm just hoping this set up will be close
enough
> without having another drop bar fabricated. Anyway, I think you get the
> picture. I'm sure I'm not the first to deal with this.
> Best Regards,
> Erik Murray
>
>
>
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Message Number: 12
Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2002 09:30:11 -0600
From: "Dr. Gerald N. Johnson, electrical engineer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Hitch set up
That 1-1/2" isn't going to change the levering on the front wheels of
the truck. Basically you want truck and trailer to be level at the same
time. The refrigerator is most picky, truck headlights too. You will
raise the back of the truck with the load equalizing bars part of the
distance the trailer lowered it. The truck headlights are the most picky
in motion, the refrigerator isn't as picky in motion as parked. The
refrigerator is far more picky than you probably are about being level.
You can lower the truck with lowering blocks or links, or lower profile
tires or lower the hitch with a custom drop bar. You can raise the
trailer with taller tires, but only if the taller tires will fit in the
wheel wells.
Gerald J.
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Message Number: 13
Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2002 11:30:43 -0500
From: "Rockfield, Terry A." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re:
I recently sent and E-mail to A/S and got a call about having my
1971 A/S checked out.
Matt (I think not real could with names) said that They had a 25 point
check for 250
dollars that covered everything.
I would have to call service (Brad?) and make an appointment. I called
brad he said that
the cost of going over older units usually ran into much more time and
they could not do it
for 250 dollars. I asked well then how much. No specific reply or
amount, whatever it took
I guess, billing would be well in excess of 250. Asking about
recharging, the Air Cond
on roof .., he inidciated they could not be recharged were usually
through aways.
the amonia refrigerator were usually not repairable either. The guy
that hauls trailers
for them wanted 200 for round trip from my home about 50 mi from
jacksoncenter.
And sai his insurance did not cover pulling someone elses trailer so
I should make sure
I was insured. Well I thanked the boys and siad I will take care
of it myself.
Though you all should know this for what ever.
Terry A. Roc
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From: VACList [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2002 7:33 PM
To: Multiple recipients of VACList
Subject: [VAC]
VACList-Digest Wednesday, January 23, 2002 Issue 190
Today's Topics:
1. This is a test - ignore
2. Tow Available......
3. Re:
4. Re:
5. Re: 1958 Overlander Questions
6. Washington, DC Unit 3rd Annual Cherry Blossom Rally
7. Acid wash
8. Re: Acid wash
9. Wee-Wind Tongue Needs Help!
10. Re: Wee-Wind Tongue Needs Help!
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Message Number: 1
Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2002 18:26:25 -0600
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Subject: This is a test - ignore
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Message Number: 2
Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2002 19:56:23 EST
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Tow Available......
Got a tow vehicle going from SF to So Cal on Feb 5th if anyone needs a
trailer moved!
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Message Number: 3
Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2002 19:09:53 -0600
From: "Tom Patterson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re:
Jim,
If you are not getting the VAC mail yet, you might enjoy this digest
which just came out.
-Tom
----- Original Message -----
From: "VACList" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Multiple recipients of VACList" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2002 6:31 PM
Subject: [VAC]
> VACList-Digest Tuesday, January 22, 2002 Issue 189
>
> Today's Topics:
>
> 1. RV Storage
> 2. Re: /black tank 54 safari
> 3. Vintage Airstream Rally - April 18-21 near Pensacola FL
> 4. Re: /black tank 54 safari
> 5. 1958 Overlander Parts
> 6. Re: Rust
> 7. Re: RV Storage
> 8. Re: 1958 Overlander Parts
> 9. Re: RV Storage
> 10. Black Water tank support pictures
> 11. Re: 1958 Overlander Parts
> 12. Re: Frame rust
> 13. Fwd: 1949 Vagabond Travel Trailer
>
>
>
>
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>
>
>
> Message Number: 1
> Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2002 18:52:16 -0700
> From: "T. Byrd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: RV Storage
>
> Greetings,
>
> Thanks to everyone on and off the list who has helped answer our
> questions over the past six months. We are finally the proud new owners
> of a 1958 Overlander!! Unfortunately, we won't be able to use it for a
> few weeks, as I have to have dental surgery. We are in need of a
> storage facility or inexpensive RV park in the Phoenix, Arizona area for
> about a month. It seems that many of the RV parks won't allow pets, or
> 1950's vintage trailers. If anyone has such information, please feel
> free to contact me off list, it would be greatly appreciated.
>
> Thanks,
> Ted (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED])
>
>
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>
> Message Number: 2
> Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2002 23:07:49 -0500
> From: jim graves <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: /black tank 54 safari
>
>
> hey folks,
>
> can anybody help me locate a black tank that will fit a 54 safari. can it
> mount between floor and the belly pan? it had an external unit that looked
> like a colostomy bag that had mercifully been destroyed by a speed bump.
> also, what is the prevailing wisdom on underfloor insulation.
>
> jim graves
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message Number: 3
> Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2002 22:20:33 -0600
> From: H Spies <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Vintage Airstream Rally - April 18-21 near Pensacola FL
>
> The Pensacola WBCCI unit invites Airstreamers with vintage trailers to
attend a
> rally at Mystic Springs Airstream Park on April 18-21. Details are posted
on the
> VAC site now as an upcoming event. This event is a trial to see how many
vintage
> airstreams and VAC members are in the Gulf Coast area. Hope you can
attend!
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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>
> Message Number: 4
> Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2002 22:27:23 -0600
> From: H Spies <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: /black tank 54 safari
>
> My 63 Globetrotter's black tank actually sits on top of the floor and is
in a
> plywood box about 7 " high. The box has a plywood top that acts as the
floor
> on which the toilet is mounted. The fiberglass tank is shaped to fit the
rear
> curved wall of the trailer and it hold about 8 or 9 gallons.
>
> jim graves wrote:
>
> > hey folks,
> >
> > can anybody help me locate a black tank that will fit a 54 safari. can
it
> > mount between floor and the belly pan? it had an external unit that
looked
> > like a colostomy bag that had mercifully been destroyed by a speed bump.
> > also, what is the prevailing wisdom on underfloor insulation.
> >
> > jim graves
> >
> > To unsubscribe or change to a daily Digest format, please go to
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> >
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> >
> >
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message Number: 5
> Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2002 00:46:06 -0700
> From: "T. Byrd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: 1958 Overlander Parts
>
> Greetings (again!),
>
> As stated in a prior email, we have just purchased a 1958 Overlander
> twin model. The sale will be completed today, so I have not yet joined
> the WBCCI or the VAC, but they are high on the list of priorities. We're
> excited and proud to finally be actively participating in this
> fascinating community!
>
> Right off the bat, I'd like to pester y'all with several questions:
>
> 1. Is it possible to find any information on this model and year of
> trailer? I'm looking for an owner's manual, and any information on the
> original appliances and fixtures. I know service manuals aren't
> available, but I'm also interested in any and all service information
> that might be available. Also a wiring diagram, if available, would be a
> great help.
>
> 2. We need a complete window frame for the rear street side. It looks
> like the original was either accidently pulled off, or intentionally
> removed. The previous owner says the person that he purchased it from,
> had tried to put an air conditioner in the window, and the frame is
> missing. I'm pretty sure it's a Hehr, though I have no idea what model
> number it is, I can provide the size if it's any help.
>
> 3. It still has what looks like an original Kreft fridge. It works fine
> on propane, but the electric heating element is kaput. Does anyone know
> where to find a suitable replacement?
>
> 4. The faucets in the shower leak at the handles. Can this be repaired
> with off-the-shelf parts from the hardware store, or do we need
> specialty parts?
>
> Any advice, tips, and tricks would be greatly appreciated. Thanks for
> being here!
>
> Ted Byrd
> 1958 Overlander :)
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message Number: 6
> Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2002 05:45:56 -0500
> From: "Red" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: Rust
>
> Hi Jim, Sounds like the way to go to be safe. Thanks for the info. Dave
>
> Snip: To find out how far back the rust damage went, I simply cut off the
> 'A'
> frame about 4" ahead of the trailer body. Although I was prepared to go
> back as far as I had to to fix it, the frame looked pretty good at that
> point. So, we fabricated a replacement, including a new hitch from
> Northern Tool & Equipment (looked almost exactly like the old one), and
> welded it on.
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message Number: 7
> Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2002 09:25:08 -0600
> From: "Don Hardman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: RV Storage
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: T. Byrd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> It seems that many of the RV parks won't allow pets, or
> > 1950's vintage trailers.
>
> If they don't allow pets who would want to stay there. I have run across
the
> "older" trailer blacklist at a few RV parks, so not I just tell them that
my
> 1976 A/S is a 1986 A/S. They don't know the difference, and in fact my
1976
> A/S looks better and is better condition than most newer SOB's anyway.
>
> Good luck with your new Vintage A/S
>
> Don Hardman
> 1976 31' Sovereign
> http://home.att.net/~dhardman/wsb/html/view.cgi-home.html-.html
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message Number: 8
> Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2002 10:30:14 -0600
> From: "Dr. Gerald N. Johnson, electrical engineer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: 1958 Overlander Parts
>
> Livingston's book on RV maintenance will show a generic wiring diagram.
> That's more than there is for the really vintage Airstream. And its a
> decent start. That book is a gold mine of maintenance help. It should be
> in your hands. It may not cover your particular appliance but will help
> in a generic way.
>
> A good small appliance repair shop may be able to make a new heating
> element from nichrome wire if the insulators have survived from the old
> refrigerator heating element.
>
> Often faucets need nothing more than tightening the gland nuts to
> squeeze the packing tighter to the shafts. You may have to remove the
> knobs to access the packing or gland nuts. You may have to remove the
> packing and clean the shafts because sometimes pieces of packing stick
> to the shafts and gets hard and so grinds out the working packing when
> the faucet shaft is moved. The parts should be close to standard
> hardware store shelf items.
>
> Gerald J.
> --
> Entire content copyright Dr. Gerald N. Johnson. Reproduction by
> permission only.
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message Number: 9
> Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2002 14:04:39 -0600
> From: lefty frizzell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: RV Storage
>
> When I hit that problem...I just move on down the road and don't worry
> about it. There are too many others that don't care about the trailers
> age...or your pets.
>
> Vote with your fee.
>
>
> Lefty Frizzell
> http://home.earthlink.net/~leftyfrizzell
>
> ****
> I can only please one person per day.
> Today is not your day.
> Tomorrow is not looking good either.
> ****
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of
> Don Hardman
> Sent: 22 January 02 09:25
> To: Multiple recipients of VACList
> Subject: [VAC] Re: RV Storage
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: T. Byrd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> It seems that many of the RV parks won't allow pets, or
> > 1950's vintage trailers.
>
> I
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message Number: 10
> Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2002 12:08:48 -0800 (PST)
> From: jon fitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Black Water tank support pictures
>
> I recently removed the black water tank from my 68
> Overbudget. This should be pretty similar to your 66
> Safari. I took lots of pictures.
>
> Now the bad news: I am notoriously slow about getting
> prints, and of course, they have to be scanned as
> well. I fully intend to post them "someday" on the
> net.
>
> Are you in a hurry with this project? If so, I
> suggest you keep looking. But, if you are doing your
> planning well in advance (as we often do), these may
> be just the ticket. I went to pains to get good shots
> because there are so few available.
>
> Drop me a line off list. Anyone else is welcome to
> nag me so that I don't take too long making them
> available to the list.
>
> Jon in SC
> 68 Overlander
>
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> ------------------------------
>
> Message Number: 11
> Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2002 14:19:49 -0700
> From: "T. Byrd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: 1958 Overlander Parts
>
> Thanks Doc :)
>
> "Dr. Gerald N. Johnson, electrical engineer" wrote:
> >
> > Livingston's book on RV maintenance will show a generic wiring diagram.
>
> I've got Livingston's book, thanks to the recommendations from folks
> here over the months. I'll take a look at the electrical section. I
> spent a part of last night reading, and re-reading, the section on
> servicing brakes and wheel bearings. :) It seems the 110v electrical
> system is working fine at the moment. The umbilicus from the trailer to
> the tow vehicle is UV damaged and the insulation has dried out and is
> falling off in many places, leaving bare wires exposed. Hopefully it
> won't be too difficult to trace down the connections and replace it.
>
> > A good small appliance repair shop may be able to make a new heating
> > element from nichrome wire if the insulators have survived from the old
> > refrigerator heating element.
>
> I have the entire original heating element assembly from the
> refrigerator, I'll look into this. Thanks for the tip.
>
> > Often faucets need nothing more than tightening the gland nuts to
> > squeeze the packing tighter to the shafts.
>
> I'll give this a try, I'm sure I'm going to get to know my True Value
> hardware man very well in the near future. :)
>
> If anyone would like pictures of the coach, I'd be happy to pass them
> along. This is a gem, with what looks like a completely original
> interior (minus new paint, carpet, cushions, and carpet), and a fairly
> straight body. Certainly looks better than the '58 Overlander that is
> "melting" in the VintageAirstream.com photo archives. ;)
>
> BTW, if anyone knows of a 1958 or older Overlander that is being parted
> out, I'd sure appreciate knowing about it. I suspect that's going to be
> our only source for the replacement window, as well as some other parts.
>
> Ted Byrd
> '58 Overlander
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message Number: 12
> Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2002 16:31:03 -0500
> From: Terry Tyler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: Frame rust
>
> Hey Dave,
>
> Here's an experiment for you to try. It won't cost anything and it may not
> have any validity. But, it worked for me once and put me hot on the trail
> for getting a frame problem solved.
>
> Simple test. Hook up your Airstream with the spring bars at full strength
> (grunt when you hoist them onto the saddle brackets).
>
> Then, roll forward or backward slightly and look at the front aluminum
skin
> (panel) under the stone screen. Don't see anything different? No buckling?
> So much for phase 1.
>
> Then, find a driveway. Go down it and stop at the lowest point while the
> trailer wheels still higher and are not into the driveway (maximum
pressure
> on the spring bars). Look at the front panel under the stone shield. Don't
> see anything different? It still looks flat and secure? Possible
conclusion.
>
> Rust hasn't reached the "too much" stage yet. The frame is still doing its
> thing. It's not flexing from being rusted. It is still capable of
> maintaining rigidity under minimal flexing conditions.
>
> End of experiment.
>
> Next step.
>
> Keep track of the emails from structural engineers who know what they are
> talking about and forget about this experiment.
>
> Terry
> mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> ==============================
>
> on 01/21/02 4:38 AM, Red at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> > Hello,
> > My 67' has rust damage on the "A" frame where the cable (the one that
hooks
> > to the tow vehicle) runs into the frame. It appears that over the years
> > when it rains, snows the water follows the cable into the frame area and
> > sits there and rusts the steel. How do you determine how much rust is
to
> > much? When looking into the frame with a flashlight you can see pitting
on
> > the bottom edge. The other side of the "A" frame appears to be OK.
Thanks
> > for any advice. Dave
> >
> >
> >
> >
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>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message Number: 13
> Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2002 22:06:46 -0800
> From: Marie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Fwd: 1949 Vagabond Travel Trailer
>
>
>
> >Hi Gang,
> >Just spotted this on ebay; it only had another 20 hours to go, sorry, but
> >I haven't been my usual vigilant self recently.
> >Same caveat as usual; if I was in the US, I'd buy it...
> >love
> >Marie
> >
> >
>
>http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/aw-cgi/ebayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=600452850
&r=0&t=0
> >
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
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Message Number: 4
Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2002 21:37:57 -0600
From: "Tom Patterson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re:
Oops........... sorry, didn't mean to send this to the list.
-Tom
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tom Patterson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Multiple recipients of VACList" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2002 7:09 PM
Subject: [VAC] Re:
> Jim,
>
> If you are not getting the VAC mail yet, you might enjoy this digest
> which just came out.
>
> -Tom
>
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Message Number: 5
Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2002 21:44:12 -0600
From: KEVIN D ALLEN <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: 1958 Overlander Questions
Greetings Ted!
Welcome to the world of Overlander ownership - - you have lots of company.
----- Original Message -----
From: "T Byrd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Multiple recipients of VACList" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2002 1:46 AM
Subject: [VAC] 1958 Overlander Parts
> Greetings (again!),
>
>
> 1. Is it possible to find any information on this model and year of
> trailer? I'm looking for an owner's manual, and any information on the
> original appliances and fixtures. I know service manuals aren't
> available, but I'm also interested in any and all service information
> that might be available. Also a wiring diagram, if available, would be a
> great help.
There wasn't a formal owner's manual, rather an enveloe containing owner's
manuals and literature for all of the installed accessories was included
with the trailer. You might have good luck finding photo copies or even
originals by putting the word out - - to get the correct manuals you will
need the manufacturer's name and model name or number for each of the
appliances. Even when Airstream began including owner's manuals with the
'64s, individual manuals and literature were included for many appliances
including the water heater, refrigerator, water pump, and kitchen range.
>
> 4. The faucets in the shower leak at the handles. Can this be repaired
> with off-the-shelf parts from the hardware store, or do we need
> specialty parts?
>
I don't know whether it will apply to your rig or not, but my '64
Overlander's original faucets were all delta - - or at least they all used
delta replacement parts including stem and washer assemblies. I had no luck
with hardware stores - - tried a local plumbing supply distributor - - told
the clerk that the faucets were bathroom/laundry room sink (didn't mention
Airstream as the shop had prominent notices posted that they did not carry
parts for mobile homes). Within a few minutes I had all new stem assemblies
ready for installation. It helps if the plumbing supply house is accustomed
to dealing with restoring/refurbishing old houses as I was told that the
fixture was one of common usage from 1950-66 when the parts were invoiced.
Good luck with your Overlander, I am sure that you will enjoy traveling with
it.
> Any advice, tips, and tricks would be greatly appreciated. Thanks for
> being here!
>
> Ted Byrd
> 1958 Overlander :)
Kevin Allen
WBCCI/VAC #6359
1964 Overlander International/1999 GMC K2500 Suburban
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Message Number: 6
Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2002 22:55:52 -0500
From: "Wayne A. Moore" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Washington, DC Unit 3rd Annual Cherry Blossom Rally
Hi Gang,
Once again its that time of year to get ready for the Rally Season.
The 3rd Annual Cherry Blossom Rally (Thursday, April 4th - Sunday, April
7th, 2002) Sponsored by the Washington DC Unit of the WBCCI will be held
once again at Roger's Farm. WDCU charter members Clayton & Christi Rogers
have again agreed to be our hosts on their 140 acre farm in Upper Marlboro,
Maryland, which is a central location between Washington DC, Annapolis and
Baltimore, Maryland. Last year Garnett Horner made plans to do a Wagon
Wheels style parking layout that we will use again this year with nightly
campfires in the center of the circle. Other amenities are to include gray
water dumping, water available, and Porta-potties. There are plans for
providing limited electric service. All WBCCI and vintage Airstreamers are
encouraged to attend, but there will be, as last year, a limit of 50
trailers with initial preference to WDCU members and affiliates. The rally
fee is $100/Airstream with 2 adults, $75/Airstream with 1 adult, $25 for
each additional guest; children are free.
This is our Unit signature rally and a great opportunity to kick off the
RVing year while DC is typically at its peak and full of activity. Please
plan on joining us.
Registration must be received no later than March 28, 2002
-----------------------------------------------------------
Name _________________________________________________________
Name(s) of other adults___________________________________________
Number of children attending ______________________________________
Address _______________________________________________________
City/State/ZIP __________________________________________________
Phone _________________________________________________________
e-mail _________________________________________________________
WBBCI Number _________________________________________________
Please make the following reservation:
_____ Rally fee ($75/1 adult, $100/2 adults, $25/additional adult, children
free)
Rally fee includes 3 breakfasts and one dinner for rally participants.
Guests or visitors will be charged for meals.
Make check (U.S. dollars) payable to: WDCU
And mail to:
Ruth Baldwin
6126 Callery St.
Pittsburgh, PA 15206
Confirmation of your reservation will be sent by e-mail.
And again, any Questions: Call 412-361-2654 or e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Message Number: 7
Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2002 04:31:05 -0500
From: "Red" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Acid wash
My question is : What is an "Acid Wash"? Hope it is not the use of a
chemical stripper to remove the plastic coating. Dave
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Message Number: 8
Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2002 05:48:23 -0800 (PST)
From: Toby Folwick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Acid wash
acid wash is the use of a light "etching" chemical.
very similar to aluminum wheel cleaner that you buy at
the local general store.
Toby
--- Red <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> My question is : What is an "Acid Wash"? Hope it
> is not the use of a
> chemical stripper to remove the plastic coating.
> Dave
=====
"The apple grows so bright and high,
And ends its days in apple pie." - s. hoffenstein
http://www.tobyfolwick.com
Minneapolis, MN
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Message Number: 9
Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2002 09:23:44 -0500
From: "Gerald Weber" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Wee-Wind Tongue Needs Help!
My new Wee-Wind only made it nine miles from the seller before the tongue
broke!
It was almost history. Anyhow, I'm desperately in need of advice, and have
photos to explain the current sad status.
Thanks folks!
Gerald Weber
142 Mitchell Street, Suite 301
Atlanta, Georgia 30303
(404) 523-6201
(404) 577-0181 (fax)
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Message Number: 10
Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2002 15:32:37 -0800
From: gshippen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Wee-Wind Tongue Needs Help!
Gerald Weber, Sorry to hear of your bad luck there, However hopfully your
Wee-Wind is still in ok condition? If you do not weld you should have a
new
hitch installed by a professional simply for safety's sake. You could save
yourself some money by removing the aluminum belly pan and preparing it for
the
welder. Then reinstalling which may give you opportunity to do some other
observations/repairs etc. You are now among the elite few who A/S hitches
broke on the Caravans to Africa and such exotic places! Good luck.
Gerald Shippen
66 Overlander
62 Globe Trotter
Gerald Weber wrote:
> My new Wee-Wind only made it nine miles from the seller before the tongue
> broke!
> It was almost history. Anyhow, I'm desperately in need of advice, and
have
> photos to explain the current sad status.
>
> Thanks folks!
>
> Gerald Weber
> 142 Mitchell Street, Suite 301
> Atlanta, Georgia 30303
> (404) 523-6201
> (404) 577-0181 (fax)
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Message Number: 14
Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2002 12:16:05 EST
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re:
Terry. We charge $195.00 for a "safety inspection" that covers over 200
points, regardless of year. A detailed written report of all the findings
with associated costs is also provided. All RV airconditioners can be
recharged. Reefer cooling units are available, but sometimes not warranted,
if the plastic has deteriorated.
Additionally, the factory does not have many parts for the "vintage" coaches.
We do.
Perhaps that's why coaches from all over the country are brought to us.
Andy
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Message Number: 15
Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2002 12:19:25 EST
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Hitch set up
Raising and lowering is easily done with a "high-low" hitch bar. When
properly welded or adjusted, most any coupler height can be used with most
any tow vehicle. Keeping both level, with respect to itself, is the key.
Andy
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Message Number: 16
Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2002 12:35:25 -0500
From: "James Greene" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Wee-Wind Tongue Needs Help!
'
----- Original Message -----
From: "gina terrell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
<
Subject: [VAC] Re: Wee-Wind Tongue Needs Help!
> must have broke your heart
> gina
Gina, I believe it was the tongue that broke.
Sorry. ;-)
Jim Greene
' 68 Tradewind
Atlanta
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Message Number: 17
Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2002 11:37:14 -0600
From: "Don Hardman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: 1976 A/S at RV Trader
here is a link for a 1976 31' center bath sovereign on RVtrader.com. Looks
to be in pretty good shape. I guess I have a soft spot for the 1976 models.
Don Hardman
http://adcache.rvtraderonline.com/3/9/1/1032591.htm
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Message Number: 18
Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2002 12:58:51 -0500
From: "Phil Renner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: VAC Restoration Project
Wayne
What a project!
I haven't gotten as far as needing to order aluminum sheets yet, but I'm
curious. What did you determine to be the appropriate alclad sheet
(thickness, composition) from Aircraft Spruce for your replacement belly pan
sheets? Is this the same as lower outside shell?
Phil
----- Original Message -----
From: "Wayne A. Moore" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Multiple recipients of VACList" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2002 11:54 PM
Subject: [VAC] VAC Restoration Project
> Hi Gang,
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------
> Restoration Project!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
> ------------------------------------------------------------
>
> As some of you know I'm in the process of restoring a '65 Caravel.
> This weekend I removed the body shell from the frame and dragged the
> frame out to be repaired. This trailer had taken a rough ride off the road
> and the frame was broken in 4 places so I'm having all the repairs done by
a
> friend.
> Check out this link for the pics!!
>
> http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/wam52/lst?&.dir=/%2765+Caravel&.src=ph&.view=t
>
> Hopefully I will get the frame back his weekend so I can start sandblast
and
> paint and maybe get the shell back on the frame. Then I will continue to
> replace all the lower outside Aluminum shell with .040 Alclad 2024T3
sheets
> purchased from Aircraftspruce:
>
> http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catmain.php?dest=cathome.html
>
> The existing panels have deep gouges, dents, old utility holes and are in
> generally poor condition. Keep checking back to monitor my progress!
>
> Later
>
> WAM
>
>
>
>
>
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Message Number: 19
Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2002 14:35:31 -0600
From: "John R. Kleven" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: 1976 A/S at RV Trader
I have looked at this trailer. It is in pretty good shape inside and has
the rear double bed. The reason I didn't make an offer on it is because the
street side had completely faded from the way it was stored over the years.
It looked horrible to me. If somebody wants one to polish, it is a great
deal.
Randy
> http://adcache.rvtraderonline.com/3/9/1/1032591.htm
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Message Number: 20
Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2002 15:08:14 -0500
From: Jim Dunmyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Hitch set up
I copied the following from Can-Am's site: http://www.can-am-rv.com
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Can-Am RV - Hitch Hints
Towing Problems? We can Help!
Trailer Sway
Unfortunately many people wrestle a poor handling combination all over
the countryside when a few simple adjustments would make towing a
pleasure. Less than 10% of the trailers on the road are properly hooked
up. There are a lot of things to improve handling of your trailer
resulting in reduced sway.
* Hitch Head Adjustment - This is the one area that definitely
needs improvement on most hitches. The pivot point of the trailer (ball
on the vehicle) should be as close to the rear end of the vehicle as
possible. We often see people with the ball sticking 4" or more from the
back end to accommodate tailgates, lift handles or other things. The
first thing you should do is to get the ball as close to the bumper. You
may have to have the shank redrilled and loose the adjustable head. The
next most common error on the hitch head is the angle at which it sits.
It should sit at a 15 degree angle back from the vertical. When the bars
are done up they should be parallel to the frame of the trailer or
angled down a bit.
* Setting Up the Vehicle and Trailer - Another area that really
needs improvement in most combinations is the vehicle setup. The goal is
to have the tow vehicle drop equally on the front and rear. To properly
set them up you should follow the following steps.
* Drive combination straight on a smooth level surface. (Make
sure the 2 are not at an angle).
* Unhook the vehicle from the trailer.
* Level up the Trailer. Measure from the frame to the floor
so it is accurate.
* Measure up into the cupler of the trailer. Measure your
ball height on the hitch head.
* The trailer should sit about 1/2" higher than the ball
height on the vehicle.
* Put Masking tape on all four corners of the vehicle.
* Measure up from the floor to a mark the height on the tape
(eg. 19" or 20").
* Hook the trailer up to the car, and measure the height on
the car to see the change.
* If the car drops for example an inch on the back but is a
1/2" high on the front you need to change the number of links you drop.
* You have to go through trying different links until you
find you are close to having the vehicle drop evenly on all 4 corners.
* Usually you will find that one link will put to much weight
on the front while the next link puts to much on the back. In this case
use a bolt in between 2 links to fine tune the adjustment.
* You now will have a fine tuned setup and it should make a
considerable difference.
* Vehicle Receiver (Platform) - Many factory receivers tend to flex
alot. I have had trucks come in with a receiver bent up 1/2" on a 1000
mile trip. If you can get the receiver reinforced to reduce flexing it
will improve the stability of the combination. We add a 2.5" combo bar
to the hitch and tie it across as close to the rear differential as
possible.
* Tires - Tires are vital to the stability of the vehicle. Many
tire dealers unfortunately recommend oversized tires for towing. The
problem is that the tires are usually to large for the rim width and
they will have side to side sway of the tire wall over the rim itself. A
much better way to add stability is to use a sport tire with a lower
profile and narrower width. If you have a specific vehicle email me the
tire and vehicle to us and we can recommend a proper size. There is an
added benefit to this, it will enhance the final drive ratio of the
vehicle, giving you more power.
* Sway Controls -Sway controls are important. Though they are of
minimal benefit on good days it is like a extremely cheap life
insurance. We always install 2 on vehicles over 27' on Airstreams and
25' on conventional units. One is a minimum.
* The Tow Vehicle -Many tow vehicles have poor suspensions. Many of
the rear wheel drive cars and sport utilities have sloppy suspensions
and handling can be a problem. Suspension modifictions utilizing
different springs, sway bars, bushings, etc. can help. In this case we
go with a Hensley Arrow hitching system. This will eliminate virtually
all the sway in the trailer. It is not cheap, but your safety, comfort
and enjoyment are well worth the price.
Hopefully this will help you enjoy the open road more. If you have any
specific questions please contact us.
Can-Am RV Home Page
E-mail Andy Thomson
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Scott Scheuermann wrote:
> Erik,
>
> I am no expert here, but I would THINK that if your trailer rides level that
> you would be OK. To do this you may have to "drop a link or two" on the
> weight distribution bars. Basically you want both the trailer and tow
> vehicle to be level.
>
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Message Number: 21
Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2002 18:09:50 -0600
From: "Don Hardman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: 1976 A/S at RV Trader
I would probably think that most mid 70 A/S would have some degree of
clearcoat problems at this time, but that can be taken care of with
stripping and polishing. The clearcoat on my 76 was very bad when I got it 2
years ago but the skin was in good shape as this one appears to be. Although
I have not polished mine yet, stripping the clearcoat did make a big
difference as the pictures on my website show.
http://home.att.net/~dhardman/wsb/html/view.cgi-home.html-.html
Finding any Vintage A/S virtually intact today is getting harder and harder
to do and this one looks like a good candidate to be rescued before someone
turns it into a U-Haul or hauls it up to the deer lease.
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From: John R. Kleven <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Multiple recipients of VACList <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2002 2:35 PM
Subject: [VAC] Re: 1976 A/S at RV Trader
> I have looked at this trailer. It is in pretty good shape inside and has
> the rear double bed. The reason I didn't make an offer on it is because
the
> street side had completely faded from the way it was stored over the
years.
> It looked horrible to me. If somebody wants one to polish, it is a great
> deal.
> Randy
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> > http://adcache.rvtraderonline.com/3/9/1/1032591.htm
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