VACList-Digest Sunday, January 27, 2002 Issue 194
Today's Topics:
1. Bent ? Axle
2. Re: Bent ? Axle
3. Re: Bent ? Axle
4. Re: '67 Caravel for sale in Borrego
5. Re: Bent ? Axle
6. Refrigerator question
7. Re: Refrigerator question
8. Re: Refrigerator question
9. Re: Refrigerator question
10. Skin Rpair/Replacement
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Message Number: 1
Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2002 20:19:22 -0600
From: Dick and Kris Parins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Bent ? Axle
I looked at a 1964 Tradewind today. Needs lots of fix-up but only one thing
really worried me. The single duratorque axle was bent up in the middle. I
would say the total deflection was between one and two inches. The bend
was, as near as I could tell by eyeballing it right in the middle of the
axle. I am no expert but I do not think this is normal.
Does this represent a fatal flaw in the axle requiring replacement? Or is
this a characteristic of some duratorques? Or is this damaged but something
that can be ignored? I know it was towed a short distance about 8 months
ago with no problem.
Thanks for any input.
Dick
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Message Number: 2
Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2002 18:41:51 -0800 (PST)
From: Doug Rowbottom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Bent ? Axle
Dick
That's the normal for the duratorque. It's pre
stressed to allow for deflection when travelling.
But never jack up using the axel or you could put a
bend in it you don't want.
Doug
--- Dick and Kris Parins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I looked at a 1964 Tradewind today. Needs lots of
> fix-up but only one thing
> really worried me. The single duratorque axle was
> bent up in the middle. I
> would say the total deflection was between one and
> two inches. The bend
> was, as near as I could tell by eyeballing it right
> in the middle of the
> axle. I am no expert but I do not think this is
> normal.
>
> Does this represent a fatal flaw in the axle
> requiring replacement? Or is
> this a characteristic of some duratorques? Or is
> this damaged but something
> that can be ignored? I know it was towed a short
> distance about 8 months
> ago with no problem.
>
> Thanks for any input.
>
> Dick
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Message Number: 3
Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2002 20:02:13 -0700
From: "Bob Hightower" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Bent ? Axle
Nope, that's normal, at least for the 'newer' ones. That allows the wheels
to track normally when the trailer is loaded. If it were straight, i.e.
flat, you'd have a problem.
Bob Hightower
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From: "Dick and Kris Parins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Multiple recipients of VACList" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2002 7:19 PM
Subject: [VAC] Bent ? Axle
> I looked at a 1964 Tradewind today. Needs lots of fix-up but only one
thing
> really worried me. The single duratorque axle was bent up in the middle.
I
> would say the total deflection was between one and two inches. The bend
> was, as near as I could tell by eyeballing it right in the middle of the
> axle. I am no expert but I do not think this is normal.
>
> Does this represent a fatal flaw in the axle requiring replacement? Or is
> this a characteristic of some duratorques? Or is this damaged but
something
> that can be ignored? I know it was towed a short distance about 8 months
> ago with no problem.
>
> Thanks for any input.
>
> Dick
>
>
>
>
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Message Number: 4
Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2002 01:08:49 EST
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: '67 Caravel for sale in Borrego
Dear VAC members,
We inspected both yesterday and today a very shiney '67 Caravel owned by
WBCCI members Nancy and Tom Crandall of Borrego Springs Ca. We'll have some
pictures later next week. They are asking $12,000. From 10' away it looks
great but as you get closer...not that perfect. The interior looks ok but we
wouldn't say "top notch". We told Tom that we thought it was worth about
$4500 to $7500 tops and he insisted that they were selling at $14,000 on
eBay! We think he's dreaming but thier # is: 760-767-0010 if you're
interested.
* STUART MACARTHUR RESOR * ARCHITECT * 1268 BLUE SKY DRIVE * CARDIFF BY THE
SEA * CALIFORNIA * 92007-1005 * 760-753-8022 * FAX: 760-753-8058 *
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Message Number: 5
Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2002 13:00:56 EST
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Bent ? Axle
Dick. The bend in the middle, is placed there when the axle is aligned, which
is before it's ever mounted. From your description, it sounds normal. Andy
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Message Number: 6
Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2002 13:39:20 -0500
From: "Robert Petersen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Refrigerator question
Hello all,
I'm in the process of fixing the frige on my '75 Tradewind, and I do have a
question, but not about the problem itself. I know there's tons of
experience on this list, so I know this is the place to go. The frige
works well on gas, but not on electric, and according to the rvmobile.com
web site, I'm dealing with an electrical problem, and not a frige problem,
so I'm well on my way to getting the problem fixed. It's a great site, so
if there's anyone out there with frige problems, I highly recommend it.
Now, my question is this. The site explains how rv cooling units work, and
it even mentions that it's OK to travel with the refrigerator running.
Now, I've always had the assumption that it was dangerous to travel with
the propane gas on, but now I'm reading that it's OK. Even the person that
sold us the trailer said he traveled with all his pilots on for the furnace
and stove. Does anyone have any experience with this? Does anyone travel
with their Frige in propane mode as is suggested on the site? How about
the other gas appliances? I'd like all the opinions I can get before I
attempt this myself. Thanks
Bob
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Message Number: 7
Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2002 14:13:25 -0500
From: Jim Dunmyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Refrigerator question
Robert,
RV Mobile was saying that it's OK as far as the fridge is concerned to
travel with it operating. As long as you don't stop for more than 15-20
minutes with the fridge off-level, you're probably OK. However:
There is considerable controversy on the subject of travelling with the
gas on and fridge operating. Some do, some don't. Those that do are
generally pretty careful about shutting down the fridge before
approaching the fuel islands.
Others shut down the gas at the bottles when travelling.
<<Jim>>
Robert Petersen wrote:
> Hello all,
>
> I'm in the process of fixing the frige on my '75 Tradewind, and I do have a
> question, but not about the problem itself. I know there's tons of
> experience on this list, so I know this is the place to go. The frige
> works well on gas, but not on electric, and according to the rvmobile.com
> web site, I'm dealing with an electrical problem, and not a frige problem,
> so I'm well on my way to getting the problem fixed. It's a great site, so
> if there's anyone out there with frige problems, I highly recommend it.
> Now, my question is this. The site explains how rv cooling units work, and
> it even mentions that it's OK to travel with the refrigerator running.
> Now, I've always had the assumption that it was dangerous to travel with
> the propane gas on, but now I'm reading that it's OK. Even the person that
> sold us the trailer said he traveled with all his pilots on for the furnace
> and stove. Does anyone have any experience with this? Does anyone travel
> with their Frige in propane mode as is suggested on the site? How about
> the other gas appliances? I'd like all the opinions I can get before I
> attempt this myself. Thanks
>
> Bob
>
>
>
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Message Number: 8
Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2002 13:15:16 -0600
From: "Dr. Gerald N. Johnson, electrical engineer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Refrigerator question
Some refrigerator pilots don't seem to stay lit while traveling,
definitely its a variable with the winds. There may be still be
localities that prohibit traveling with the tank valves on. Last I knew,
the Baltimore tunnel wouldn't allow vehicles with propane tanks period.
My '68 owner's manual says to turn off the petcocks to the range and
oven before beginning to travel and notes "In some states it is illegal
to leave gas tanks turned on while towing a trailer." I don't know how
much of that is true today, though a cracked rigid propane line could
lead to a disaster on the road easily prevented if the tank valves are
off while traveling. The refrigerator should keep several hours if the
door stays closed without gas.
Gerald
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Message Number: 9
Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2002 15:36:27 -0500
From: Matt Worner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Refrigerator question
If any of you have had the opportunity to view a fire service training film
entitled "BLEVE" (acronym for Boiling Liquid, Expanding Vapour Explosion) I
am sure you would opt to have your propane tanks closed while on the road.
One cut shows a hundred foot or more furrow plowed up in a farmer's field by
a railroad car tank that landed over a half mile from the scene of the
fire/explosion. If you ever sit at a rail crossing watching the cars go by,
look for the "LT WT" rating on the tank cars. That is the "light" or empty
weight of the car (in pounds), and is typically a very large number. Even
if the tank itself was only half the weight of the empty car, the "steam"
explosion violent enough to send it over 2000 feet would be an impressive
experience at best. Not that the five or ten gallons of propane would be
anywhere near as potent, but if kept in the tank, it could never catch fire
as easily as if the valve was open.
As Dr J has said, the fridge keeps everything quite cold while closed,
especially if you carry your drinking water frozen in jugs, within.
"Dr. Gerald N. Johnson, electrical engineer" wrote:
> Some refrigerator pilots don't seem to stay lit while traveling,
> definitely its a variable with the winds. There may be still be
> localities that prohibit traveling with the tank valves on. Last I knew,
> the Baltimore tunnel wouldn't allow vehicles with propane tanks period.
>
> My '68 owner's manual says to turn off the petcocks to the range and
> oven before beginning to travel and notes "In some states it is illegal
> to leave gas tanks turned on while towing a trailer." I don't know how
> much of that is true today, though a cracked rigid propane line could
> lead to a disaster on the road easily prevented if the tank valves are
> off while traveling. The refrigerator should keep several hours if the
> door stays closed without gas.
>
> Gerald
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1976 24' Argosy (rear door) (Bun Metallica)
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Message Number: 10
Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2002 16:26:19 EST
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Skin Rpair/Replacement
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Hello All!
I'm a new and eager member here, enjoying learning all I can from the
discussions. I'm still looking for my first A/S and have a candidate in
mind. My question or request of guidance is that the rig I'm interested in
has damage to the lower 3 sections on the rear corner and the panel below the
rear window. Some of the damage is creased and some is not. Is this damage
I could possibly repair myself (I have no aluminum experience, yet) or does
anyone know of someone in the Michigan area (or vicinity) who could repair
it? Next, what would a ballpark figure ($$$) be on skin repairs?
Are there any other concerns I should have with a 1957 other than frame
integrity and general weatherproofing?
Thank You,
Jason
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