-----Original Message----- From: Edmund Storms > Let me see if I understand your position, Jones. You believe the behavior using deuterium has no relationship to the behavior when H is used.
"No relationship" is too strong. After all, both involve hydrogen loaded metal and QM. But the assessment is almost correct if you base it on two different types of tunneling with vastly different outcomes. If PdD does result in fusion to helium, then my answer is almost yes, there is almost no relevance of that dynamic to the Rossi effect of Ni-H, which is not a known fusion reaction, and may not technically be fusion at all. However, I am not convinced that PdD works this way, and frankly - it is a diversion to even bring it up for now, since it detracts from the really important issue - which is the proper understanding of the Rossi effect. The two are almost as unrelated as mainstream fission is from mainstream fusion. > You believe nature has several ways to initiate LENR depending on which isotope of hydrogen is used. Absolutely yes - to the degree that the name: "LENR" includes any thermal anomaly, not necessarily related to a known nuclear reaction, and there are 12 or more distinct routes to thermal gain. > You accept what Rossi has said without question LOL. No one can accept Rossi's full account, as it is self-contradictory; but it is the totality of the evidence that matters especially the lack of gammas and that detail comes from experts, not Rossi. > You propose the mechanism that works for Ni+H2 is outside of conventional nuclear behavior - including not producing the calculated amount of energy the mass change requires. Exactamundo. This is where one must depart from the original Focardi/Rossi account. The most prevalent active mechanism is not proton addition to nickel, with transmutation to copper. The facts do not support that. There could be a small contribution but the main reaction is different. Like it or not, Steven Jones - and his new slides do support the viewpoint of Bob Cook and many others on spin coupling - due to magnetic field collapse and with real data, and a photon signature in the RF. He also disputes the connection of Helium to excess heat. I would not go that far, but it is sufficient to say the PdD and NiH are very different.
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