* The people in the WMF and the Affiliates are /part of/ of the communities. * Even the people without extensive years of volunteering, or those who only started volunteering at the same time as they became professionally involved, are part of the communities. * It is illogical for us to tell the people who take on highly-active roles, that they are no longer able to lead. * We (collectively) try to encourage the extremely capable volunteers to apply for jobs, and for grants. * If Wikimedia Cascadia becomes a well-funded chapter, and you were a staffer of it, would you become ineligible to lead proposals that effect your area of activity?
-- quiddity On Fri, Feb 24, 2017 at 2:26 PM, Pine W <wiki.p...@gmail.com> wrote: > Let me rephrase and elaborate on that point. Phabricator and MediaWiki > aren't the WMF wiki. I think that WMF employees' proposals, comments, > questions, and suggestions can be welcome for TCoC drafting. However, in > terms of process leadership and in terms of proportion of input, I would > like to see -- and I think that the proposal would be more likely to pass > an RfC on adoption for the whole document -- community leadership of the > process, and a greater proportion of community input. > > Pine > > > On Fri, Feb 24, 2017 at 1:36 PM, Erik Bernhardson < > ebernhard...@wikimedia.org> wrote: > > > On Fri, Feb 24, 2017 at 1:14 PM, Pine W <wiki.p...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > A point I should make is that I think that Matthew and others made some > > > good-faith efforts with the current draft. I would have proposed far > less > > > WMF involvement with the draft > > > > > > One thing I just don't understand here, why should the people that > > participate in technical spaces more than most (because it's their job to > > do so) not be involved? > > _______________________________________________ > > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/ > > wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and https://meta.wikimedia.org/ > > wiki/Wikimedia-l > > New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > > <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> > > > _______________________________________________ > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/ > wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and https://meta.wikimedia.org/ > wiki/Wikimedia-l > New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> > _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe>