WMF staff are certainly contributors within the technical spaces. There's no reason why they shouldn't be able to participate in the COC formation process (which I have unrelated concerns with...)
A lack of other community members participation is perhaps half on a lack of advertising, and half on a lack of interest. Adrian Raddatz On Fri, Feb 24, 2017 at 4:12 PM, quiddity <pandiculat...@gmail.com> wrote: > * The people in the WMF and the Affiliates are /part of/ of the > communities. > * Even the people without extensive years of volunteering, or those who > only started volunteering at the same time as they became professionally > involved, are part of the communities. > * It is illogical for us to tell the people who take on highly-active > roles, that they are no longer able to lead. > * We (collectively) try to encourage the extremely capable volunteers to > apply for jobs, and for grants. > * If Wikimedia Cascadia becomes a well-funded chapter, and you were a > staffer of it, would you become ineligible to lead proposals that effect > your area of activity? > > -- > quiddity > > > On Fri, Feb 24, 2017 at 2:26 PM, Pine W <wiki.p...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Let me rephrase and elaborate on that point. Phabricator and MediaWiki > > aren't the WMF wiki. I think that WMF employees' proposals, comments, > > questions, and suggestions can be welcome for TCoC drafting. However, in > > terms of process leadership and in terms of proportion of input, I would > > like to see -- and I think that the proposal would be more likely to pass > > an RfC on adoption for the whole document -- community leadership of the > > process, and a greater proportion of community input. > > > > Pine > > > > > > On Fri, Feb 24, 2017 at 1:36 PM, Erik Bernhardson < > > ebernhard...@wikimedia.org> wrote: > > > > > On Fri, Feb 24, 2017 at 1:14 PM, Pine W <wiki.p...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > A point I should make is that I think that Matthew and others made > some > > > > good-faith efforts with the current draft. I would have proposed far > > less > > > > WMF involvement with the draft > > > > > > > > > One thing I just don't understand here, why should the people that > > > participate in technical spaces more than most (because it's their job > to > > > do so) not be involved? > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/ > > > wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and https://meta.wikimedia.org/ > > > wiki/Wikimedia-l > > > New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > > > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > > > <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/ > > wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and https://meta.wikimedia.org/ > > wiki/Wikimedia-l > > New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > > <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> > > > _______________________________________________ > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/ > wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and https://meta.wikimedia.org/ > wiki/Wikimedia-l > New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> > _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe>