I can't say I blame you.  I would do the same, especially in a
competition.  Have you learned all the ZBF2L for when the C/E pair is
trapped in the F2L?  This seems like the most logical first extension
to the VH system.

~ Bob

--- In zbmethod@yahoogroups.com, "Dan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> There are, however, cases
> > that cannot be done using VH very easily (certain yucky connected
> > cases and such), but there are only a few of those.  Do you break 
> them
> > up and do VHF2L in those cases, too, Dan?
> > 
> > ~ Bob
> I have to be honest, if it's one of the yucky cases then I would not 
> bother using VHF2L - esp in a competition. In practice however, I 
> would still solve these cases, but it's hard to say whether you gain 
> any time by doing this. If you hadn't flipped all the edges using 
> VHF2L, who's to say that you wouldn't have had a tough OLL and an N 
> perm? And if you did flip the edges in a yucky case, you might end up 
> with the 1 in 12 skip. Or of course it could go horribly wrong the 
> other way. All if's and but's!
> Dan :)

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