Hey Dan,

I also try to avoid the last pair connected in the F2L slot but not
flipped right, even though I can use the ZB alg for it.

I've found that it's faster even when I see that case early on, to
still use that slot as an empty slot and do whatever otehr ZBF2L comes
up than to know which case that slot is, save for last, and just do ZBF2L.

The reason I learned them first though, is that I didn't know any
VHF2L.  So what I did was to just pair up the pieces and place at
least one of them into it's slot.  That way I knew the ZBF2L way to
finish.  It was sort of my pseudo-VH way of doing ZBF2L.

The cases where both pieces are in the F2L slot but the slot is not
solved are mostly slow for me, except for a few which are very very
fast.  So I try to avoid them since a larger proportion of them are
slow for me than just all the rest of the ZBF2Ls.

I do still use those cases though if the last pair is one of them.  I
just try to avoid them if I can.

Just my two cents,

--- In zbmethod@yahoogroups.com, "Dan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi Bob,
> No, I haven't learned any of ZBF2L, apart from knowing a few tricks 
> which I learned before ZBF2L was even heard of.
> I am a firm believer in the fact that to learn a giant amount of cases 
> you need to chop it up into fine chunks. The way I learn is all about 
> building pathways and extending out from what I already know, so I 
> think that the most logical extension of VHF2L in the direction of 
> ZBF2L is to learn the set of algorithms which covers first the case 
> which I can't use VHF2L for (my algorithm for the F2L case is U2 R2 U2 
> R' U' R U' R2) - and then begin learning the ones which cover the most 
> yucky cases.
> You are right to say that the C/E pair trapped in the F2L is a great 
> place to start also, but for me it's not as useful because I almost 
> always break the pair up while solving another pair first, and using 
> the slot as an empty slot. So I don't have these cases very often at 
> all. In fact, I'm sure they can always be avoided, and give you less 
> ZBF2L algorithms to learn. But that's only speculation on my part :)
> Dan :)
> --- In zbmethod@yahoogroups.com, "Bob Burton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Have you learned all the ZBF2L for when the C/E pair is
> > trapped in the F2L?  This seems like the most logical first extension
> > to the VH system.
> > 
> > ~ Bob

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