--- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, "Jarvis Stamply" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> From: "Bill Smart" <> Personally I would be very skeptical of any 
> that INSISTED upon a full-lotus or any other position.
> >
> >
> When I used to travel and visit the various Zen centers, I got the 
> impression that Full Lotus was what separated the men from the 
boys, and the
> women from the girls (or whatever).
> I found that slight snobbery to be funny, but since I could never 
sit Full
> Lotus I did not like the attitude. I never saw any Roshi display any
> attitude about anything; so my remarks are strictly about the rank 
and file
> monks and lay participants.

lol. That is funny.  Being a snob in zen is like saying "I'm more 
humble than you are!"

Anyway, I shouldn't have really used the word "insisted," but more 
like "highly recommended."  I just wonder what they have to say about 
it if anything.

Seems like in older days it used to be the norm.  The standards seem 
to have relaxed, not that I think this is a bad thing.  It means that 
the dharma is more accessable, which is good.

BTW, I'm more humble than all of you put together. So there! :P


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