From: Jue Miao Jing Ming - > I don't seem to understand your comment on what 
I wrote.  I don't find them relate to each other.>

OK. You say Chan is about karma and liberation? I agree.

I think that HAPPY PEOPLE ZEN is what is now being taught in many places in 
America. It is NO KARMA, just HAPPY PEOPLE no matter what. Just zazen and BE 
HAPPY.

That is not CHAN. OK? 


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