Re: [Zen] Character Building

[Jue Miao Jing Ming - 覺妙精明]

Hi Al,  I don't seem to understand your comment on what I wrote.  I don't find them relate to each other.  Can you explain?  Thanks, JM i.e. exercise? feel better? evil? happy?  Do use any strong words you prefer.   It is okay.. Fitness63 wrote: 覺妙精明 >Without the correct understanding of karma and cause and effect, and the proper practice to witness it, there is no way to rid of the karma. It seems to me, after reading off/online for about 7-8 years, Zen differs from Chan in the fact Zen has no spiritual power. It is just a mental exercise without any connection to the life forces of the universe.> I think that is the bullshit Zen that I am not sure exists as proper Zen. It is not what I was reading in the older Zen books. The Zen that is just an exercise is the crap that is just anything goes and you will feel better about the evil you do if you meditate. That is the HUM OF HAPPY PEOPLE ZEN which I do not think is true to the spirit and history of Zen. __._,_.___ Current Book Discussion: any Zen book that you recently have read or are reading! Talk about it today! Your email settings: Individual Email|Traditional Change settings via the Web (Yahoo! ID required) Change settings via email: Switch delivery to Daily Digest | Switch to Fully Featured Visit Your Group | Yahoo! Groups Terms of Use | Unsubscribe __,_._,___