Anthony,

This is a very perverted idea, that one can eat meat without karmic guilt, if you let someone else do the killing for you and let him get the bad karma.


It is just as bad as fundamentalists Christian belief that it is OK to sin over and over if at the end one repents his sins and accepts Christ he will be saved.

Both are perversions.

Edgar



On Dec 21, 2008, at 4:22 AM, Anthony Wu wrote:


I believe 'Buddha nature' is a mahayana Buddhism's creation. I have not found original Buddhism literature mentioning the term. Some go as far as insisting that even stone has Buddha nature. Let us limit ourselves to sentient beings only who have Buddha nature. That means all animals, including roaches and vermin. When a pond was filled with water to kill insects, the Buddha allowed it, because the purpose was to clean the place, not to kill. By the same token, if we eat meat bought from a supermarket, we create little bad karma, because we don't do the killing. So animals are not created to be food. Therefore, Jesus says, 'don't kill sacrifice animals. Use my blood, to donate to God.' That is the highest ideal.. It is best to be a vegetarian. If you cannot resist eating delicious meat, try not to cause to kill, to avoid creating bad karma. Good luck.

--- On Sat, 20/12/08, Karin Machado <tortiller...@yahoo.com> wrote:
From: Karin Machado <tortiller...@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [Zen] Ducks Have Buddha Nature?
To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com
Date: Saturday, 20 December, 2008, 9:54 PM

Are some animals created to be food and therefore have no Buddha Nature? Are plants and insects without Buddha Nature because they are at the bottom of the food chain??


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