Dear DP,

"words of E..U..", "koan", "purpose", "turned off", "messages", "people hiding" are all mental construct.


To rid of OCD, is not to think about anything, just belly breathe. It works.

Don't judge, just give it a try.

:-)



On 8/15/2010 7:35 AM, DP wrote:


I have been doing zazen for awhile now, but I've gone weeks and months at a time without doing it... getting up and doing it regularly is very difficult for me.

I like to consider myself, in the words of Evelyn Underhill, a "practical mystic." I find koans sometimes useful, but I find that I am also drawn to the ideas of Thich Nhat Hanh, of imbuing everything with purpose (of course, this can be hard with OCD, in which every action seems to have hidden consequences). I'm a little turned off by some of what I find obfuscating in some zen messages, the people who hide behind linguistic tricks. Is that a little too cynical? Am I asking too many questions? :)

--- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com <mailto:Zen_Forum%40yahoogroups.com>, Jue Miao Jing Ming - 覺妙精明 <chan.j...@...> wrote:
>
> Hi DP,
>
> We have people suffer from the same.
>
> Do you know how to do belly breathing? If yes, please do belly
> breathing while meditating.
>
> If you don't know, I will send you the instruction. As long as you
> meditate daily at the same time and place with belly breathing, in just
> three month, you'll notice improvements to your condition.
>
> JM
>
> --
> Be Enlightened In This Life - We ALL Can
> http://chanjmjm.blogspot.com
> http://www.heartchan.org
>
>
>
> On 8/15/2010 6:46 AM, DP wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com <mailto:Zen_Forum%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:Zen_Forum%40yahoogroups.com>,
> > Maria Lopez <flordeloto@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Welcome to the zen forum DP;
> > > Â
> > > What is Obsessive Compulsive Disorder?. What's that about?.
> >
> > I could try to explain it myself, but these do it better...
> >
> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Obsessive_compulsive_disorder
> >
> > My particular kind of OCD is closest to Scrupulosity.
> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Obsessive_compulsive_disorder
> >
> > Is being Christian an impediment to me being on here? I am not a
> > "biblle-thumper" type if that makes a difference.
> >
> > > Â
> > > Thank your for the openeness, honestity and clarity you talk about
> > you.Â
> > > Â
> > > Mayka
> > >
> > > --- On Sat, 14/8/10, DP <dave.dplatt72@> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > From: DP <dave.dplatt72@>
> > > Subject: [Zen] Namaste- first message
> > > To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com <mailto:Zen_Forum%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:Zen_Forum%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > Date: Saturday, 14 August, 2010, 16:35
> > >
> > >
> > > Â
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > HI, I am new here, and I would like to give a little introduction.
> > >
> > > I am 38, and I have been meditating on and off for about two years,
> > reading about Zen for about 10. I find that zazen helps with my
> > Obsessive Compulsive Disorder, and while I don't want to go into too
> > many details about that, they key is the fear of uncertainty. the fact
> > that Zen embraces uncertainty is what appeals to me.
> > >
> > > I am nominally Christian, but I lean towards the more liberal end,
> > i.e. Quaker or even further. I see Christianity's strength being in
> > its ethical system, at least when properly applied. I would become
> > even more involved with Zen, sadly there is no real Zendo near where I
> > live.
> > >
> > > Anything else anyone would like to know?
> > >
> >
> >
>
> --
> Be Enlightened In This Life - We ALL Can
> http://chanjmjm.blogspot.com
> http://www.heartchan.org
>



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