Thank you, Mayka. I'm most definitely one man and not "mice" (I think you meant the singular 'mouse') : )
Mike ________________________________ From: Maria Lopez <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Tue, 5 October, 2010 7:58:08 Subject: Re: [Zen] Re: Don't pray in my school and I won't think in your church. Anthony: I'm under the impression that Mike is not the type of person who is afraid to speak up his mind when he has to. He is an strong man and not a mice. He doesn't live upon anyone sayings but he mades from the sayings his own sayings through the practice of zen = Direct experience with life. But I don't know as all this is just an impression in the same way as you have your own. Mayka --- On Mon, 4/10/10, Anthony Wu <[email protected]> wrote: >From: Anthony Wu <[email protected]> >Subject: Re: [Zen] Re: Don't pray in my school and I won't think in your church. >To: [email protected] >Date: Monday, 4 October, 2010, 23:43 > > > >Mike, > >I don't see the 'free pass'. You find Islam criticising Christianity, and vice >versa, and Christianity reviling Buddhism and vice versa. Many other >instances. >The reason you are afraid to say something against Christianity is because you >live in a strong Christain influenced environment. Once you say something, you >will see a lot of Don Quixotes rushing toward you. > >Anthony > >--- On Mon, 4/10/10, mike brown <[email protected]> wrote: > > >>From: mike brown <[email protected]> >>Subject: Re: [Zen] Re: Don't pray in my school and I won't think in your >church. >>To: [email protected] >>Date: Monday, 4 October, 2010, 11:38 PM >> >> >> >>Mayka, >> >>It goes waaaaaaaaay beyond mere "disappontment" in any established religious >>institutions. I really don't understand why religion gets a "free pass" from >>criticism. We attack the oil industry for polluting the environment; >>goverment/politicians for corruption and other socially unacceptable >>behaviours >>etc. What is it about religion that can claim "I'm offended" as a valid >>argument >>against scrutiny and even ridicule? If I said the world was flat you'd >>probably >>think I was mentally sick. But deny evolution (despite the overwhelming >>scientific eveidence) and that's ok because I claim to have 'faith' in a >>bronze-age myth. And I'm not even going to begin with the institutionalised >>cover-up of child rape by the Catholic church.. >> >>Mike >> >> >> >> ________________________________ From: Maria Lopez <[email protected]> >>To: [email protected] >>Sent: Mon, 4 October, 2010 22:51:51 >>Subject: Re: [Zen] Re: Don't pray in my school and I won't think in your >church. >> >> >>Hi Mike and Everyone! >> >>If everytime one has a dissapointment in any established religious >>institution >>whether that dissapointment was in Christian, Muslim, Jew, Buddhist, Zen >>Buddhist, etc, etc institutions: and afterwards acts as a destructor >>towards >>the institution from which dissapointment took place, then it doesn't sound a >>very wise way of doing towards oneself. I certainly include myself in this >>unwise way of doing as I've recently experienced a great dissapointment in >>the >>TNH institutions which lead me to criticism of them. Though never >>as irrespetuos >>or destructive as many atheists show themselves ugly behaviour in front of >>Christianity. This harmful way of doing doesn't affect the instituions >>established but just to the ones who carries away such violent shows. >> >> When I look deeply into myself, I realice that it was me all the way alone >>who >>built up a pedestal to that institution. It was me who caused herself the >>dissapointment for building a pedestal of "holiness, peace....to the >>institution". They weren't the ones!!!. Having seeing this within myself I >>am >>now grateful having found that institution from which I was introduced in the >>walk of zen buddhism. >> >> I was ever dissapointed in any Christian institutions because I never built >>up >>a pedestal to the instituion!. And so my experience was always healthy and >>positive. It was positive because I never put that instituion in a >>pedestal. I >>saw it for what it was. And so I could get all the benefit from it and never >>the dissapointment and the anger and frustation that comes with it. >> >>Mayka >> >> >>--- On Sun, 3/10/10, mike brown <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> >>>From: mike brown <[email protected]> >>>Subject: Re: [Zen] Re: Don't pray in my school and I won't think in your >>church. >>>To: [email protected] >>>Date: Sunday, 3 October, 2010, 11:33 >>> >>> >>> >>>Kristy, >>> >>>You wrote: "If you have faith, there is a whole sphere they are ignorant >>>about." >>> >>> >>>However, this isn't really the whole story. Many atheists were once >>>believers >>>who have seen thru 'faith' and have rejected it for what it is. Moreover, I >>>am >>>ignorant of what it is to be a neo-nazis, but have no trouble rejecting >>>their >>>beliefs as not just harmful, but wrong. >>> >>>Mike >>> >>> >> >
