Not quite. It was not the "last presidential debate," it was a debate among those competing for the Republican candidacy. And no, "nothing" did not happen; they were widely ridiculed in the media, and none of them won the candidacy in the end. So no, they most certainly did not get a free pass. (In any case, I'm not sure what evolution has to do with "having their finger on the button."
--- In [email protected], mike brown <uerusub...@...> wrote: > > Anthony, > > A couple of points. One religion criticising another religion is not the > point > I'm making about religion having a free pass. Take politics, for example. In > the > last presidential debate 4 candidates put up their hands to swear that they > didn't believe in evolution. Was there a gasp of disbelief from the > questioner/audience? Laughter? A roll of the eyes? Nothing. Not even a follow > up > question. And these people potentially could have their finger on the button. > Now imaine if they said they believed in UFOs or Zeus or a flat earth etc. > Now > that's what I call a free pass. > > > Mike >  > Ps, I like Don Quixote. Probably the best example of a man of Zen in > literature. > > > > ________________________________ > From: Anthony Wu <wu...@...> > To: [email protected] > Sent: Tue, 5 October, 2010 7:43:43 > Subject: Re: [Zen] Re: Don't pray in my school and I won't think in your > church. > >  > Mike, > > I don't see the 'free pass'. You find Islam criticising Christianity, and > vice > versa, and Christianity reviling Buddhism and vice versa. Many other > instances. > The reason you are afraid to say something against Christianity is because > you > live in a strong Christain influenced environment. Once you say something, > you > will see a lot of Don Quixotes rushing toward you. > > Anthony > > --- On Mon, 4/10/10, mike brown <uerusub...@...> wrote: > > > >From: mike brown <uerusub...@...> > >Subject: Re: [Zen] Re: Don't pray in my school and I won't think in your > church. > >To: [email protected] > >Date: Monday, 4 October, 2010, 11:38 PM > > > > > > > >Mayka, > > > >It goes waaaaaaaaay beyond mere "disappontment" in any established religious > >institutions. I really don't understand why religion gets a "free pass" from > >criticism. We attack the oil industry for polluting the environment; > >goverment/politicians for corruption and other socially unacceptable > >behaviours > >etc. What is it about religion that can claim "I'm offended" as a valid > >argument > >against scrutiny and even ridicule? If I said the world was flat you'd > >probably > >think I was mentally sick. But deny evolution (despite the overwhelming > >scientific eveidence) and that's ok because I claim to have 'faith' in a > >bronze-age myth. And I'm not even going to begin with the institutionalised > >cover-up of child rape by the Catholic church.. > > > >Mike > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > From: Maria Lopez <flordel...@...> > >To: [email protected] > >Sent: Mon, 4 October, 2010 22:51:51 > >Subject: Re: [Zen] Re: Don't pray in my school and I won't think in your > church. > > > > > >Hi Mike and Everyone! > > > >If everytime one has a dissapointment in any established religious > >institution > >whether that dissapointment was in Christian, Muslim, Jew, Buddhist, Zen > >Buddhist, etc, etc institutions:  and afterwards acts as a destructor > >towards > >the institution from which dissapointment took place, then it doesn't sound > >a > >very wise way of doing towards oneself. I certainly include myself in this > >unwise way of doing as I've recently experienced a great dissapointment in > >the > >TNH institutions which lead me to criticism of them. Though never > >as irrespetuos > >or destructive as many atheists show themselves ugly behaviour in front of > >Christianity. This harmful way of doing doesn't affect the instituions > >established but just to the ones who carries away such violent shows. > > > > When I look deeply into myself, I realice that it was me all the way > >alone who > >built up a pedestal to that institution. It was me who caused herself the > >dissapointment for building a pedestal of "holiness, peace....to the > >institution". They weren't the ones!!!. Having seeing this within myself > >I am > >now grateful having found that institution from which I was introduced in > >the > >walk of zen buddhism. > > > > I was ever dissapointed in any Christian institutions because I never > >built up > >a pedestal to the instituion!. And so my experience was always healthy and > >positive. It was positive because I never put that instituion in a > >pedestal. I > >saw it for what it was. And so I could get all the benefit from it and > >never > >the dissapointment and the anger and frustation that comes with it. > > > >Mayka > > > > > >--- On Sun, 3/10/10, mike brown <uerusub...@...> wrote: > > > > > >>From: mike brown <uerusub...@...> > >>Subject: Re: [Zen] Re: Don't pray in my school and I won't think in your > >church. > >>To: [email protected] > >>Date: Sunday, 3 October, 2010, 11:33 > >> > >> > >> > >>Kristy, > >> > >>You wrote: "If you have faith, there is a whole sphere they are ignorant > >>about." > >> > >> > >>However, this isn't really the whole story. Many atheists were once > >>believers > >>who have seen thru 'faith' and have rejected it for what it is. Moreover, I > >>am > >>ignorant of what it is to be a neo-nazis, but have no trouble rejecting > >>their > >>beliefs as not just harmful, but wrong. > >> > >>Mike > >> > >> > > > ------------------------------------ Current Book Discussion: any Zen book that you recently have read or are reading! Talk about it today!Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zen_Forum/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zen_Forum/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: [email protected] [email protected] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [email protected] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
