Yonyonson,

You wrote:  "zazen is good for nothing".

To expand on that and paraphrase a couple lines from ME AND BOBBY MCGEE:

Zazen is good for nothing,
And nothing is good enough for me.

...Bill!

--- In [email protected], yonyonson@... wrote:
>
> does a door-post lack anything?
> 
> more than enough awakened persons have stated, "Awakening chooses
> you"; not the other way around.  No conditions.
> 
> "beyond intellect into intuition and awareness"?  have you been there?
>  or are you just speculating?
> 
> hongyeongsoo
> 
> "zazen is good for nothing"
> 
> On 10/24/12, mike brown <uerusuboyo@...> wrote:
> > In Edgar's defence, try telling a door-post, or a one day old baby, or a
> > person in a coma - "Just This" - and see if they Awaken. So the intellect is
> > needed to both live and set the conditions for awakening, but toreally live
> > we have to go beyond the intellect into intuition and awareness. 2 plus 2 =
> > 4. But what does 4 equal?
> >
> > Mike
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> >  From: Joe <desert_woodworker@...>
> > To: [email protected]
> > Sent: Wednesday, 24 October 2012, 23:26
> > Subject: Re: [Zen] original zen
> >
> >
> >
> > Group, & Edgar,
> >
> > I did my level best to draw Edgar out, but to Noah Veil.
> >
> > I inscribe my Gatha in sorrow, with regret and apology to all.
> >
> > To Edgar:
> > -- -----
> > Stubbornness does not Compassion show;
> > Nor Self-Protectiveness quicken the Slow.
> > One-up-man-ship
> > Did never steal THIS show.
> >
> > Generosity and consideration
> > Are a far more wholesome ration.
> > But Clarity, Honesty, and help,
> > Come not from a whelp.
> >
> > To raise a point and then depart
> > Is the misplaced throwing of a dart.
> > To live to lie another day,
> > is the cellulose Philosophy of a bale of Hay.
> >
> > --J. Guo-Xiang Tennen M.
> >
> >> Edgar Owen <edgarowen@> wrote:
> >>
> >> REALITY, THE WORLD OF FORMS, as I just said!
> >
> >
> >
>



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