On Dec 29, 2011, at 1:29 PM, Nico Williams wrote: > On Thu, Dec 29, 2011 at 2:06 PM, sol <a...@yahoo.com> wrote: >> Richard Elling wrote: >>> many of the former Sun ZFS team >>> regularly contribute to ZFS through the illumos developer community. >> >> Does this mean that if they provide a bug fix via illumos then the fix won't >> make it into the Oracle code?
I can't speak for Oracle, but I think the entire ZFS community benefits when bugs are fixed. Squeaky wheels get the grease, so squeak often. > If you're an Oracle customer you should report any ZFS bugs you find > to Oracle if you want fixes in Solaris. You may want to (and I > encourage you to) report such bugs to Illumos if at all possible > (i.e., unless your agreement with Oracle or your employer's policies > somehow prevent you from doing so). +1 > The following is complete speculation. Take it with salt. > > With reference to your question, it may mean that Oracle's ZFS team > would have to come up with their own fixes to the same bugs. Oracle's > legal department would almost certainly have to clear the copying of > any non-trivial/obvious fix from Illumos into Oracle's ON tree. And > if taking a fix from Illumos were to require opening the affected > files (because they are under CDDL in Illumos) then executive > management approval would also be required. But the most likely case > is that the issue simply wouldn't come up in the first place because > Oracle's ZFS team would almost certainly ignore the Illumos repository > (perhaps not the Illumos bug tracker, but probably that too) as that's > simply the easiest way for them to avoid legal messes. Think about > it. Besides, I suspect that from Oracle's point of view what matters > are bug reports by Oracle customers to Oracle, so if a bug fixed in > Illumos is never reported to Oracle by a customer, it would likely > never get fixed in Solaris either except by accident, as a result of > another change. > > Also, the Oracle ZFS team is not exactly devoid of clue, even with the > departures from it to date. I suspect they will be able to fix bugs > in Oracle's ZFS and completely independently of the open ZFS > community, even if it means duplicating effort. Yes, Oracle continues to develop and sustain its Solaris products. This can only be viewed as a good thing. > That said, Illumos is a fork of OpenSolaris, and as such it and > Solaris will necessarily diverge as at least one of the two (and > probably both, for a while) gets plenty of bug fixes and enhancements. > This is a good thing, not a bad thing, at least for now. Evolution continues, despite the rhetoric from the pulpit :-) -- richard -- ZFS and performance consulting http://www.RichardElling.com illumos meetup, Jan 10, 2012, Menlo Park, CA http://www.meetup.com/illumos-User-Group/events/41665962/ _______________________________________________ zfs-discuss mailing list email@example.com http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss