Re: Cdrecord-ProDVD, burning DVD+RW fails

2005-09-09 Thread F. Kappen
Hi all,

after numerous trials and studying the READMEs and mailing-lists
concerning  cdrecord-prodvd I haven't succeeded burning my DVDs with
cdrecord-prodvd . So I switched to growisofs. growisofs is
relatively simple and has not such a rich flavour of features like
cdrecord-prodvd has, but it works, serves my needs  and I am
completely satisfied.

Cheers
Friedhelm



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Re: cdrecord-prodvd also fails to write Moviestyle dvd

2005-06-29 Thread Dominique Dumont

Hello Bill

Sorry for the late reply.

Bill Davidsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 On the chance that I was unclear with my question:
   mount -r /dev/hdc /mnt/cdrom
   cd /mnt/cdrom
   find . -type f -print0 | xargs -0 md5sum | grep FAIL
 obviously modified to fit you device and mountpoint names.

I can't mount the dvd on my dvdrw drive.

On the other hand I can mount it my dvdr-rom drive. The command 
  find . -type f -print0 | xargs -0 md5sum | grep FAIL
does not find problem, but I get I/O errors in syslog:

Jun 29 15:33:23 gandalf kernel: ide: failed opcode was: unknown
Jun 29 15:33:23 gandalf kernel: end_request: I/O error, dev hdd, sector 4945660
Jun 29 15:33:23 gandalf kernel: Buffer I/O error on device hdd, logical block 
1236415
Jun 29 15:33:30 gandalf kernel: hdd: media error (bad sector): status=0x51 { 
DriveReady SeekComplete Error }
Jun 29 15:33:30 gandalf kernel: hdd: media error (bad sector): error=0x34 { 
AbortedCommand LastFailedSense=0x03 }
Jun 29 15:33:30 gandalf kernel: ide: failed opcode was: unknown

And now the drive seems to be stuck. Even a plain 'ls' hangs. I guess that
I'll have to reboot soon.

Anyway, I'll trash the faulty dvds.

Thanks for your help.


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Re: cdrecord-prodvd also fails to write Moviestyle dvd

2005-06-01 Thread Dominique Dumont
Bill Davidsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 The only thing which comes to mind on that is that the directory
 structure might still be in memory. Seems unlikely, but there's no
 reason why it should work only until eject. If you force a read of all
 files, like an md5sum or such, are they all readable? 

You mean reading the while disc before eject ? I'll have to try
that. I'll get back to you later.

 And did you try manually setting the f/s type in the mount?

Yes, to no avail. I get a lot of error in kern.log.

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Re: cdrecord-prodvd also fails to write Moviestyle dvd

2005-06-01 Thread Bill Davidsen




Dominique Dumont wrote:

  Bill Davidsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  
  
The only thing which comes to mind on that is that the directory
structure might still be in memory. Seems unlikely, but there's no
reason why it should work only until eject. If you force a read of all
files, like an md5sum or such, are they all readable? 

  
  
You mean reading the while disc before eject ? I'll have to try
that. I'll get back to you later.
  


On the chance that I was unclear with my question:
 mount -r /dev/hdc
/mnt/cdrom
 cd /mnt/cdrom
 find . -type f -print0 | xargs -0 md5sum | grep FAIL
obviously modified to fit you device and mountpoint names.

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Re: cdrecord-prodvd also fails to write Moviestyle dvd

2005-06-01 Thread Volker Kuhlmann
 The only thing which comes to mind on that is that the directory 
 structure might still be in memory. Seems unlikely, but there's no 
 reason why it should work only until eject. If you force a read of all 
 files, like an md5sum or such, are they all readable?

The other thing which comes to mind is that the burner may still have
certain media parameters cached. This is flushed on eject, when the disk
is inserted again the drive needs to re-acquire.

I can only come to one of these 3 conclusions: 1) the drive is faulty.
2) The media is faulty to start with, and is certainly faulty now. 3)
The drive is unable to burn that particular media correctly, but it's
close to borderline (otherwise there would be a total failure).

In either of these cases the burnt disk is a coaster and not suitable as
backup.

Whenever there is read trouble and you're unsuere whether it's to do
with the filesystem, *always* disregard the filesystem and read with dd
directly from the device, like dd bs=2k if=/dev/dvdrecorder
of=/dev/null. You're allowed *one* I/O error at the very end of the
recording. Any more, and either or both drive and disk are faulty. There
is basically no leeway for other options here if you care about your
data.

Volker

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Re: cdrecord-prodvd also fails to write Moviestyle dvd

2005-05-13 Thread Dominique Dumont
Volker Kuhlmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 This sounds like an incompatability between your burner and your media.
 No software will fix that, other than a firmware fix in the burner.

You're probably right. I've upgraded the firmware to no avail.

The only way to be sure is to try my burner with nero... If it's a
growisofs bug, it would be good to know.

 Switch to different media which your burner can handle.

Yes. I'll stick with Prodye in the future. But what should I do now
with the 90 freesbee I'm left with ... :-/

 If you're talking about reading the disks in consumer DVD players, some
 of them aren't terribly good at dealing with some DVD formats. Try a
 different type of DVD format.

No, I was mentionned simply mounting and reading the dvd *after* an
eject (mounting and reading the dvd *before* eject works perfectly
well).

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Re: cdrecord-prodvd also fails to write Moviestyle dvd

2005-05-12 Thread Dominique Dumont
Dominique Dumont [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 TOC Type: 1 = CD-ROM
 scsidev: 'ATAPI:0,0,0'
 devname: 'ATAPI'

Following Maik Zumstrull's advice, I've setup ide-scsi on Linux 2.6
for cdrecord-prodvd.

Unfortunately, I still cannot write to dvd due to the following error:
cdrecord-pro-dvd: Input/output error. write_g1: scsi sendcmd: no error
CDB:  2A 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 1F 00
status: 0x2 (CHECK CONDITION)
Sense Bytes: 70 00 04 00 93 00 FE 0E 26 01 30 E6 08 01 00 00
Sense Key: 0x4 Hardware Error, Segment 0
Sense Code: 0x08 Qual 0x01 (logical unit communication time-out) Fru 0x0
Sense flags: Blk 9634046 (not valid) 

Note that growisofs is able to write the dvd, but I've a lot of
trouble to read them afterwards.

Here's the complete output of cdrecord:

# /usr/local/bin/cdrecord -v -dao ghibli.iso 
Cdrecord-ProDVD-Clone 2.01b31 (i686-pc-linux-gnu) Copyright (C) 1995-2004 Jörg 
Schilling
Unlocked features: ProDVD Clone 
Limited  features: 
This copy of cdrecord is licensed for: 
private/research/educational_non-commercial_use
TOC Type: 1 = CD-ROM
scsidev: '0,0,0'
scsibus: 0 target: 0 lun: 0
Linux sg driver version: 3.5.32
Using libscg version 'schily-0.8'.
SCSI buffer size: 64512
atapi: 1
Device type: Removable CD-ROM
Version: 2
Response Format: 2
Capabilities   : 
Vendor_info: 'PIONEER '
Identifikation : 'DVD-RW  DVR-106D'
Revision   : '1.07'
Device seems to be: Generic mmc2 DVD-R/DVD-RW.
Current: DVD+R
Profile: DVD+R (current)
Profile: DVD+RW 
Profile: DVD-RW sequential overwrite 
Profile: DVD-RW restricted overwrite 
Profile: DVD-R sequential recording 
Profile: DVD-ROM 
Profile: CD-RW 
Profile: CD-R 
Profile: CD-ROM 
Using generic SCSI-3/mmc-3 DVD+R driver (mmc_dvdplusr).
Driver flags   : DVD MMC-3 SWABAUDIO BURNFREE 
Supported modes: PACKET SAO
Drive buf size : 1605632 = 1568 KB
FIFO size  : 4194304 = 4096 KB
Track 01: data  4108 MB
Total size: 4108 MB = 2103390 sectors
Current Secsize: 2048
Blocks total: 2295104 Blocks current: 2295104 Blocks remaining: 191714
Starting to write CD/DVD at speed 4 in real SAO mode for single session.
Last chance to quit, starting real write0 seconds. Operation starts.
Waiting for reader process to fill input buffer ... input buffer ready.
Starting new track at sector: 0
Track 01:0 of 4108 MB 
written./home/domi/freeware/cdrecord-pro-dvd/cdrecord-pro-dvd: Input/output 
error. write_g1: scsi sendcmd: no error
CDB:  2A 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 1F 00
status: 0x2 (CHECK CONDITION)
Sense Bytes: 70 00 04 00 93 00 FE 0E 26 01 30 E6 08 01 00 00
Sense Key: 0x4 Hardware Error, Segment 0
Sense Code: 0x08 Qual 0x01 (logical unit communication time-out) Fru 0x0
Sense flags: Blk 9634046 (not valid) 
cmd finished after 2.013s timeout 100s

write track data: error after 0 bytes
/home/domi/freeware/cdrecord-pro-dvd/cdrecord-pro-dvd: A write error occured.
/home/domi/freeware/cdrecord-pro-dvd/cdrecord-pro-dvd: Please properly read the 
error message above.
Writing  time:7.049s
Average write speed 441.6x.
Fixating...
/home/domi/freeware/cdrecord-pro-dvd/cdrecord-pro-dvd: Input/output error. 
close track/session: scsi sendcmd: no error
CDB:  5B 01 06 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
status: 0x2 (CHECK CONDITION)
Sense Bytes: 70 00 04 00 00 00 00 0E 00 00 00 00 44 D6 00 00
Sense Key: 0x4 Hardware Error, Segment 0
Sense Code: 0x44 Qual 0xD6 (internal target failure) [No matching qualifier] 
Fru 0x0
Sense flags: Blk 0 (not valid) 
cmd finished after 0.824s timeout 1000s
/home/domi/freeware/cdrecord-pro-dvd/cdrecord-pro-dvd: Input/output error. 
close track/session: scsi sendcmd: no error
CDB:  5B 01 06 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
status: 0x2 (CHECK CONDITION)
Sense Bytes: 70 00 04 00 00 00 00 0E 00 00 00 00 44 D6 00 00
Sense Key: 0x4 Hardware Error, Segment 0
Sense Code: 0x44 Qual 0xD6 (internal target failure) [No matching qualifier] 
Fru 0x0
Sense flags: Blk 0 (not valid) 
cmd finished after 0.824s timeout 1000s
cmd finished after 0.824s timeout 1000s
Trouble closing the last session
Fixating time:   13.942s
/home/domi/freeware/cdrecord-pro-dvd/cdrecord-pro-dvd: fifo had 64 puts and 1 
gets.
/home/domi/freeware/cdrecord-pro-dvd/cdrecord-pro-dvd: fifo was 0 times empty 
and 0 times full, min fill was 100%.


Cheers



Re: cdrecord-prodvd also fails to write Moviestyle dvd

2005-05-12 Thread Volker Kuhlmann
 Note that growisofs is able to write the dvd, but I've a lot of
 trouble to read them afterwards.

This sounds like an incompatability between your burner and your media.
No software will fix that, other than a firmware fix in the burner.
Switch to different media which your burner can handle.

If you're taking about reading the disks in consumer DVD players, some
of them aren't terribly good at dealing with some DVD formats. Try a
different type of DVD format.

Volker

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Re: cdrecord-prodvd also fails to write Moviestyle dvd

2005-05-09 Thread Dominique Dumont
Dominique Dumont [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 In dummy mode everything looks fine. But, dvd-record failed to write
 in readl mode: I ended with a mountable dvd with no data ?!?!?!

I have to add a small correction: cdrecord has written the beginning
of the iso image: I have the directory content and a small part of the
first file. The other files are empty:

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Re: cdrecord-prodvd don't work with BTC 1004

2005-03-18 Thread Owen, Carolyn
Title: Re: cdrecord-prodvd don't work with BTC 1004





I'm having the same problem. The os is redhat linux 9. I was using version cdrecord-prodvd-2.01a27-i686-pc-linux-gnu until the binary expired. 

I tried downloading cdrecord-prodvd-2.01.01-i686-pc-linux-gnu (and also cdrecord-prodvd-2.01b31-pc-linux-gnu and cdrecord-prodvd-2.01-pre-i686-pc-linux-gnu) but they now report that the tao write mode is not supported by the device even though it used to work:

Message I get now:
/usr/bin/cdrecord-ProDVD -eject -pad speed=1 fs=64m dev=2,0,0 image-file
/usr/bin/cdrecord-ProDVD: No write mode specified.
/usr/bin/cdrecord-ProDVD: Asuming -tao mode.
/usr/bin/cdrecord-ProDVD: Future versions of cdrecord may have different d
rive dependent defaults.
/usr/bin/cdrecord-ProDVD: Continuing in 5 seconds...
/usr/bin/cdrecord-ProDVD: Operation not permitted. WARNING: Cannot do mloc
kall(2).
/usr/bin/cdrecord-ProDVD: WARNING: This causes a high risk for buffer unde
rruns.
/usr/bin/cdrecord-ProDVD: Operation not permitted. WARNING: Cannot set RR-
scheduler
/usr/bin/cdrecord-ProDVD: Permission denied. WARNING: Cannot set priority
using setpriority().
/usr/bin/cdrecord-ProDVD: WARNING: This causes a high risk for buffer unde
rruns.
scsidev: '2,0,0'
scsibus: 2 target: 0 lun: 0
Linux sg driver version: 3.1.24
Cdrecord-ProDVD-Clone 2.01.01a01 (i686-pc-linux-gnu) Copyright (C) 1995-20
04 J\366rg Schilling
Unlocked features: ProDVD Clone
Limited features:
This copy of cdrecord is licensed for: private/research/educational_non-co
mmercial_use
Using libscg version 'schily-0.8'.
Device type : Removable CD-ROM
Version : 0
Response Format: 2
Capabilities :
Vendor_info : 'PIONEER '
Identifikation : 'DVD-RW DVR-103 '
Revision : '1.90'
Device seems to be: Generic mmc2 DVD-R/DVD-RW.
Using generic SCSI-3/mmc-2 DVD-R/DVD-RW driver (mmc_dvd).
Driver flags : DVD MMC-3 SWABAUDIO BURNFREE
Supported modes: PACKET SAO
/usr/bin/cdrecord-ProDVD: Drive does not support TAO recording.
/usr/bin/cdrecord-ProDVD: Illegal write mode for this drive.


I used to get this output that recognized TAO support on the same device:
/usr/bin/cdrecord-ProDVD -eject -pad speed=1 fs=64m dev=2,0,0 image-file
/usr/bin/cdrecord-ProDVD: No write mode specified.
/usr/bin/cdrecord-ProDVD: Asuming -tao mode.
/usr/bin/cdrecord-ProDVD: Future versions of cdrecord may have different d
rive dependent defaults.
/usr/bin/cdrecord-ProDVD: Continuing in 5 seconds...
/usr/bin/cdrecord-ProDVD: Operation not permitted. WARNING: Cannot do mloc
kall(2).
/usr/bin/cdrecord-ProDVD: WARNING: This causes a high risk for buffer unde
rruns.
/usr/bin/cdrecord-ProDVD: Operation not permitted. WARNING: Cannot set RR-
scheduler
/usr/bin/cdrecord-ProDVD: Permission denied. WARNING: Cannot set priority
using setpriority().
/usr/bin/cdrecord-ProDVD: WARNING: This causes a high risk for buffer unde
rruns.
scsidev: '2,0,0'
scsibus: 2 target: 0 lun: 0
Linux sg driver version: 3.1.24
Cdrecord-ProDVD-Clone 2.01a27 (i686-pc-linux-gnu) Copyright (C) 1995-2004
J\366rg Schilling
Unlocked features: ProDVD Clone
Limited features:
This copy of cdrecord is licensed for: private/research/educational_non-co
mmercial_use
Using libscg version 'schily-0.8'.
Device type : Removable CD-ROM
Version : 0
Response Format: 2
Capabilities :
Vendor_info : 'PIONEER '
Identifikation : 'DVD-RW DVR-103 '
Revision : '1.90'
Device seems to be: Generic mmc2 DVD-R/DVD-RW.
Using generic SCSI-3/mmc-2 DVD-R/DVD-RW driver (mmc_dvd).
Driver flags : DVD MMC-3 SWABAUDIO BURNFREE
Supported modes: TAO PACKET SAO SAO/R96P SAO/R96R
Revision : '1.90'
Device seems to be: Generic mmc2 DVD-R/DVD-RW.
Using generic SCSI-3/mmc-2 DVD-R/DVD-RW driver (mmc_dvd).
Driver flags : DVD MMC-3 SWABAUDIO BURNFREE
Supported modes: TAO PACKET SAO SAO/R96P SAO/R96R
/usr/bin/cdrecord-ProDVD: Operation not permitted. WARNING: Cannot set RR-
scheduler
/usr/bin/cdrecord-ProDVD: Permission denied. WARNING: Cannot set priority
using setpriority().
/usr/bin/cdrecord-ProDVD: WARNING: This causes a high risk for buffer underruns.
Starting to write CD/DVD at speed 1 in real TAO mode for single session.
...




Why did it change? Should I just use -dao ?


Sincerely,
Carolyn Owen





Re: cdrecord-ProDVD key expired?

2004-05-03 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Mon, May 03, 2004 at 09:23:23AM -0600, Ashish Rangole wrote:
 I wonder if anybody has ever had any success in getting 
 one from Joerg. Please let me know if anybody has. 

A colleague of mine has also attempted to get permanent keys from Joerg,
without success.  He's with a commercial entity (a business associate
of ours), though, and not a non-profit.


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Re: cdrecord-ProDVD key expired?

2004-05-03 Thread Ashish Rangole

 
 Once again, what's the procedure for getting a *real* (non-expiring)
 key?  We'd be willing to buy one for our organization if necessary.

In order to get a permanent key one has to request Joerg Schilling,
the author. I would also like to have a key for cdrecord-ProDVD for
Linux system. I wonder if anybody has ever had any success in getting 
one from Joerg. Please let me know if anybody has. 

Joerg, I wonder if you can respond to this, letting people know 
about your policy of entertaining the requests for such permanent
keys and the procedure.

Thanks
Ashish


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Re: cdrecord-ProDVD key expired?

2004-05-03 Thread Brian Sullivan
I saw saw a little note about the format of a request
for a permanent key somewhere once, maybe it was in  
his readme file. You need to specify the operating
system and some other things. The main thing you need
to specify though is a valid reason why you can't keep
using a key that expires. I have requested keys from
him numerous times. My reason for the request was that
my company is using it for commercial gain. He hasn't
replied to any of my recent requests. I did manage to
get one permanent key from  him several years back.
While his license may state non-commercial use he
seems to be ok with allowing it to be used
commercially. If anyone knows different then please
share.

--- Ashish Rangole [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  
  Once again, what's the procedure for getting a
 *real* (non-expiring)
  key?  We'd be willing to buy one for our
 organization if necessary.
 
 In order to get a permanent key one has to request
 Joerg Schilling,
 the author. I would also like to have a key for
 cdrecord-ProDVD for
 Linux system. I wonder if anybody has ever had any
 success in getting 
 one from Joerg. Please let me know if anybody has. 
 
 Joerg, I wonder if you can respond to this, letting
 people know 
 about your policy of entertaining the requests for
 such permanent
 keys and the procedure.
 
 Thanks
 Ashish
 
 
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Re: Re: Re: cdrecord-ProDVD and Liteon DVDRW LDW-451S?

2004-03-18 Thread joachim

Hello,

sorry for the missing description and the HTML mail (Lotus Notes ;-) ).

I had:

$ ./cdrecord-wrapper.sh dev=0,0,0 -driveropts=help -checkdrive
Cdrecord-ProDVD-Clone 2.01a27 ??? (i686-pc-linux-gnu) Copyright (C) 1995-2003 
Jörg Schilling
:
:
Device type: Removable CD-ROM

And then, in the features list, any DVD burning capabilities were
missing.

When I started burning, cdrecord said, that the device was not ready, if
I remember right.

Meanwhile, I have flashed the drive to firmware HSOP (unfortunately only
a Windows flash software is available from LiteOn).

With the cdrecord-ProDVD 2.01a27, the Device type: Removable
CD-ROM info is still the same, but burning works fine nevertheless!

By the way, Mr Schilling, thanks very much for this excellent software!

Best regards,

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Wiesbaden
www.jo-werner.de

At 17.03.2004 14:19, Joerg Schilling [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Hello,

does this problem perhaps apply to the LiteOn 811S, too?

If you don't write a description of your problem, you should not expect
help.




Joachim WERNER
Wiesbaden
Germany
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brfont size=2 face=sans-serifHello,/font
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LiteOn 811S, too?/font

Keinen HTML Muell bitte!
No HTML junk please!
Jörg

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Re: Re: cdrecord-ProDVD and Liteon DVDRW LDW-451S?

2004-03-17 Thread Joerg Schilling
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Hello,

does this problem perhaps apply to the LiteOn 811S, too?

If you don't write a description of your problem, you should not expect help.




Joachim WERNER
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No HTML junk please!
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Re: Re: cdrecord-ProDVD and Liteon DVDRW LDW-451S?

2004-03-17 Thread Joachim PT Werner

Hello,

does this problem perhaps apply to the LiteOn 811S, too?

Best regards,


Joachim WERNER
Wiesbaden
Germany

Re: Re: cdrecord-ProDVD and Liteon DVDRW LDW-451S?

2004-03-17 Thread Joerg Schilling
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Hello,

does this problem perhaps apply to the LiteOn 811S, too?

If you don't write a description of your problem, you should not expect 
help.




Joachim WERNER
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Germany
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brfont size=2 face=sans-serifHello,/font
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LiteOn 811S, too?/font

Keinen HTML Muell bitte!
No HTML junk please!
Jörg

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Re: cdrecord-prodvd don't work with BTC 1004

2004-03-02 Thread Joerg Schilling
From: Marcello V. Mansueto [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Either broken firmware or this medium has already been written to.

The media was blank.
In which way the firmware is broken? Can you provide me more
information? I want to contact a BTC employer to have some help, but
Linux is not officially supported by BTC, so I need a good reason to
bother them!

cdrecord uses the official write method for DVD-R. This includes
first sending a reserve track/zone command,

If this does not work for a emty medium, the drive seems to be broken.


Jörg

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Re: cdrecord-prodvd don't work with BTC 1004

2004-03-02 Thread Marcello V. Mansueto
On Tue, 2 Mar 2004 13:13:42 +0100 (CET)
Joerg Schilling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 cdrecord uses the official write method for DVD-R. This includes
 first sending a reserve track/zone command,
 
 If this does not work for a emty medium, the drive seems to be broken.

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Re: cdrecord-prodvd don't work with BTC 1004

2004-03-02 Thread Joerg Schilling
From: Marcello V. Mansueto [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Either broken firmware or this medium has already been written to.

The media was blank.
In which way the firmware is broken? Can you provide me more
information? I want to contact a BTC employer to have some help, but
Linux is not officially supported by BTC, so I need a good reason to
bother them!

cdrecord uses the official write method for DVD-R. This includes
first sending a reserve track/zone command,

If this does not work for a emty medium, the drive seems to be broken.


Jörg

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Re: cdrecord-prodvd don't work with BTC 1004

2004-03-02 Thread Marcello V. Mansueto
On Tue, 2 Mar 2004 13:13:42 +0100 (CET)
Joerg Schilling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 cdrecord uses the official write method for DVD-R. This includes
 first sending a reserve track/zone command,
 
 If this does not work for a emty medium, the drive seems to be broken.

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Re: Re: cdrecord-prodvd don't work with BTC 1004

2004-03-02 Thread Joachim Feise
To put another data point in here, my BTC1004 (firmware V048)
works fine with cdrecord-prodvd...
So I would guess that your drive is broken.

-Joe



Re: cdrecord-prodvd don't work with BTC 1004

2004-03-01 Thread Marcello V. Mansueto
On Mon, 1 Mar 2004 14:14:59 +0100 (CET)
Joerg Schilling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Either broken firmware or this medium has already been written to.

The media was blank.
In which way the firmware is broken? Can you provide me more
information? I want to contact a BTC employer to have some help, but
Linux is not officially supported by BTC, so I need a good reason to
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Re: cdrecord-prodvd don't work with BTC 1004

2004-03-01 Thread Joerg Schilling
From: Marcello V. Mansueto [EMAIL PROTECTED]

bash-2.05b# mkisofs -dvd-video -V TITLE ./ |
../dvdburn.sh -v dev=3D1,0 tsize=3D2271666s - Cdrecord-ProDVD-Clone 2.01a24
(i686-pc-linux-gnu) Copyright (C) 1995-2004 J=F6rg Schilling Unlocked
features: ProDVD Clone Limited  features:=20
This copy of cdrecord is licensed for:
private/research/educational_non-commercial_use TOC Type: 1 =3D CD-ROM
scsidev: '1,0'
scsibus: 0 target: 1 lun: 0
Linux sg driver version: 3.1.25
Using libscg version 'schily-0.8'.
SCSI buffer size: 64512
atapi: 1
Device type: Removable CD-ROM
Version: 0
Response Format: 1
Vendor_info: 'DVDRW   '
Identifikation : 'IDE1004 '
Revision   : '0048'
Device seems to be: Generic mmc2 DVD-R/DVD-RW.
Current: DVD-R sequential recording
Profile: DVD+R=20
Profile: DVD+RW=20
Profile: DVD-RW sequential overwrite=20
Profile: DVD-RW restricted overwrite=20
Profile: DVD-R sequential recording (current)
Profile: DVD-ROM=20
Profile: CD-RW=20
Profile: CD-R=20
Profile: CD-ROM=20
Using generic SCSI-3/mmc-2 DVD-R/DVD-RW driver (mmc_dvd).
Driver flags   : DVD MMC-3 SWABAUDIO BURNFREE=20
Supported modes: TAO PACKET SAO SAO/R96P SAO/R96R RAW/R16 RAW/R96P
RAW/R96R Drive buf size : 1376256 =3D 1344 KB
FIFO size  : 4194304 =3D 4096 KB
Track 01: data  4436 MB   =20
Total size: 4436 MB =3D 2271666 sectors
Current Secsize: 2048
Blocks total: 2271666 Blocks current: 2271666 Blocks remaining: 0
Starting to write CD/DVD at speed 4 in real TAO mode for single session.
Last chance to quit, starting real write0 seconds. Operation starts.
Waiting for reader process to fill input buffer ... input buffer ready.
BURN-Free is OFF.
/data/dvd/dvdrecord: Input/output error. reserve_track_rzone: scsi
sendcmd: no error CDB:  53 00 00 00 00 00 22 A9 B2 00
status: 0x2 (CHECK CONDITION)
Sense Bytes: 70 00 05 00 00 00 00 0A 00 00 00 00 72 05 00 00
Sense Key: 0x5 Illegal Request, Segment 0
Sense Code: 0x72 Qual 0x05 (no more track reservations allowed) Fru 0x0
Sense flags: Blk 0 (not valid)=20
cmd finished after 0.000s timeout 100s
/data/dvd/dvdrecord: Cannot open next track.

Either broken firmware or this medium has already been written to.

Jörg

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Re: cdrecord-prodvd don't work with BTC 1004

2004-03-01 Thread Marcello V. Mansueto
On Mon, 1 Mar 2004 14:14:59 +0100 (CET)
Joerg Schilling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Either broken firmware or this medium has already been written to.

The media was blank.
In which way the firmware is broken? Can you provide me more
information? I want to contact a BTC employer to have some help, but
Linux is not officially supported by BTC, so I need a good reason to
bother them!

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Re: Re: cdrecord-ProDVD and Liteon DVDRW LDW-451S?

2004-01-22 Thread Paul McNary
Hello

Would it be possible to get an updated binary for 
SCO Openserver 5.0.5/6/7 with the LiteOn 451S work
around. I have a 451S and a 411S that I would like 
to use for DVD archiving. I reported the problem to
LiteOn and they said they didn't support Linux/UNIX
even though it is a firmware problem they didn't seem
to care. I have successfully compiled cdrtools current 
Alpha with success on the 5.0.5 development system. However
On the 5.0.7 development system it doesn't compile as-is.
I haven't had a chance to figure out what library it isn't
finding yet.

Also how do I contact and get information about clients
that have commercial use?

Thank You

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Re: cdrecord-ProDVD and Liteon DVDRW LDW-451S?

2004-01-14 Thread Anssi Saari
On Tue, Jan 13, 2004 at 05:37:02PM +0100, Joerg Schilling wrote:
 
 If you like this to be fixed, request a a bugfix for the firmware of the
 drive from the manufacturer.

I tried reporting this, as Liteon actually has a problem report form on
their website. Unfortunately it didn't work. I only understood the word
'Microsoft' from the error message, since my Chinese isn't very good.

Anyway, in case I can actually report this problem at some  point,
can you provide a technical explanation of what actually is wrong?
Something along the lines According to standard ___ chapter _
a DVD writer must report it's capabilities as follows: _ ...


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Re: cdrecord-ProDVD and Liteon DVDRW LDW-451S?

2004-01-14 Thread Joerg Schilling
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Anyway, in case I can actually report this problem at some  point,
can you provide a technical explanation of what actually is wrong?
Something along the lines According to standard ___ chapter _
a DVD writer must report it's capabilities as follows: _ ...


Thouroughly read the output from cdrecord -prgap and you see it yourself
easily.

Jörg

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Re: cdrecord-ProDVD and Liteon DVDRW LDW-451S?

2004-01-14 Thread Ambrose Li
Hi,

On Wed, Jan 14, 2004 at 04:41:55PM +0200, Anssi Saari wrote:
 
 I tried reporting this, as Liteon actually has a problem report form on
 their website. Unfortunately it didn't work. I only understood the word
 'Microsoft' from the error message, since my Chinese isn't very good.

do you have the URL? Perhaps I can translate it.


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Re: cdrecord-ProDVD and Liteon DVDRW LDW-451S?

2004-01-14 Thread Anssi Saari
On Tue, Jan 13, 2004 at 05:37:02PM +0100, Joerg Schilling wrote:
 
 If you like this to be fixed, request a a bugfix for the firmware of the
 drive from the manufacturer.

I tried reporting this, as Liteon actually has a problem report form on
their website. Unfortunately it didn't work. I only understood the word
'Microsoft' from the error message, since my Chinese isn't very good.

Anyway, in case I can actually report this problem at some  point,
can you provide a technical explanation of what actually is wrong?
Something along the lines According to standard ___ chapter _
a DVD writer must report it's capabilities as follows: _ ...



Re: cdrecord-ProDVD and Liteon DVDRW LDW-451S?

2004-01-14 Thread Joerg Schilling
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Anyway, in case I can actually report this problem at some  point,
can you provide a technical explanation of what actually is wrong?
Something along the lines According to standard ___ chapter _
a DVD writer must report it's capabilities as follows: _ ...


Thouroughly read the output from cdrecord -prgap and you see it yourself
easily.

Jörg

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Re: cdrecord-ProDVD and Liteon DVDRW LDW-451S?

2004-01-14 Thread Ambrose Li
Hi,

On Wed, Jan 14, 2004 at 04:41:55PM +0200, Anssi Saari wrote:
 
 I tried reporting this, as Liteon actually has a problem report form on
 their website. Unfortunately it didn't work. I only understood the word
 'Microsoft' from the error message, since my Chinese isn't very good.

do you have the URL? Perhaps I can translate it.



Re: cdrecord-ProDVD and Liteon DVDRW LDW-451S?

2004-01-13 Thread Joerg Schilling
From: Anssi Saari [EMAIL PROTECTED]

All right! I managed to burn an ISO image to DVD-R at 4x and to DVD-RW
at 1x (it's 1x media). Burn went fine and I was able to verify the data
too based on md5, on the writer at least. 

I don't have any + media, so I can't test those, but - media seems to work
fine based on these two burns. -atip seems to return decent information
as well. I notice -prcap still doesn't say the drive can write any kind
of DVD, but maybe it should.

If you like this to be fixed, request a a bugfix for the firmware of the
drive from the manufacturer.

Jörg

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Re: cdrecord-ProDVD and Liteon DVDRW LDW-451S?

2004-01-13 Thread Joerg Schilling
From: Anssi Saari [EMAIL PROTECTED]

All right! I managed to burn an ISO image to DVD-R at 4x and to DVD-RW
at 1x (it's 1x media). Burn went fine and I was able to verify the data
too based on md5, on the writer at least. 

I don't have any + media, so I can't test those, but - media seems to work
fine based on these two burns. -atip seems to return decent information
as well. I notice -prcap still doesn't say the drive can write any kind
of DVD, but maybe it should.

If you like this to be fixed, request a a bugfix for the firmware of the
drive from the manufacturer.

Jörg

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Re: cdrecord-ProDVD and Liteon DVDRW LDW-451S?

2004-01-12 Thread Anssi Saari
On Mon, Jan 12, 2004 at 01:13:00AM +0100, Joerg Schilling wrote:
 
 This is caused by the fact thet the drive is lying about it's features.
 
 I just created a new version 2.01a24 for Linux and downloaded it to:
 
 ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/cdrecord/ProDVD/
 
 that tries to work around this firmware bug.

All right! I managed to burn an ISO image to DVD-R at 4x and to DVD-RW
at 1x (it's 1x media). Burn went fine and I was able to verify the data
too based on md5, on the writer at least. 

I don't have any + media, so I can't test those, but - media seems to work
fine based on these two burns. -atip seems to return decent information
as well. I notice -prcap still doesn't say the drive can write any kind
of DVD, but maybe it should.

Great work, thanks.


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Re: cdrecord-ProDVD and Liteon DVDRW LDW-451S?

2004-01-11 Thread Joerg Schilling
From: Anssi Saari [EMAIL PROTECTED]

My Teac DV-W50E, actually a rebadged Pioneer 105, gave up the ghost,
so I quickly got a LiteOn LDW-451S DVD writer. It works fine in Windows
XP and Nero for DVD writing, but cdrecord-ProDVD in Linux doesn't seem
to think it's a DVD writer at all.

For example:

$ ./cdrecord-wrapper.sh dev=/dev/hdc -v /mnt/work/test
Cdrecord-ProDVD-Clone 2.01a23-2 (i686-pc-linux-gnu) Copyright (C) 1995-2003 Jörg 
Schilling
Unlocked features: ProDVD Clone 
Limited  features: 
This copy of cdrecord is licensed for: private/research/educational_non-commercial_use
TOC Type: 1 = CD-ROM
./cdrecord-ProDVD: Operation not permitted. WARNING: Cannot do mlockall(2).
./cdrecord-ProDVD: WARNING: This causes a high risk for buffer underruns.
./cdrecord-ProDVD: Operation not permitted. WARNING: Cannot set RR-scheduler
./cdrecord-ProDVD: Permission denied. WARNING: Cannot set priority using 
setpriority().
./cdrecord-ProDVD: WARNING: This causes a high risk for buffer underruns.
scsidev: '/dev/hdc'
devname: '/dev/hdc'
scsibus: -2 target: -2 lun: -2
Warning: Open by 'devname' is unintentional and not supported.
Linux sg driver version: 3.5.27
Using libscg version 'schily-0.7'.
SCSI buffer size: 64512
atapi: 1
Device type: Removable CD-ROM
Version: 0
Response Format: 2
Capabilities   : 
Vendor_info: 'LITE-ON '
Identifikation : 'DVDRW LDW-451S  '
Revision   : 'GSB6'
Device seems to be: Generic mmc2 DVD-ROM.
Current: DVD-R sequential recording
Profile: DVD+R 
Profile: DVD+RW 
Profile: DVD-RW sequential overwrite 
Profile: DVD-RW restricted overwrite 
Profile: DVD-R sequential recording (current)
Profile: DVD-ROM 
Profile: CD-RW 
Profile: CD-R 
Profile: CD-ROM 
./cdrecord-ProDVD: Sorry, no supported CD/DVD-Recorder found on this target.

Any help? Result is the same if I use ide-scsi and dev=1,0,0 instead or
run as root, although with less warnings.


This is caused by the fact thet the drive is lying about it's features.

I just created a new version 2.01a24 for Linux and downloaded it to:

ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/cdrecord/ProDVD/

that tries to work around this firmware bug.


Please test and report.


Jörg

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Re: Cdrecord-ProDVD-Clone 2.01a20 problem

2003-12-15 Thread Gregoire Favre
On Mon, Dec 15, 2003 at 11:54:09PM +0100, Joerg Schilling wrote:

 Track 01: data  4398 MB
 Total size: 5051 MB (500:30.04) = 2252253 sectors
 Lout start: 5052 MB (500:32/03) = 2252253 sectors
 
 A du -m -s of the dir gives 4399 
   

I really try to burn 4399 Mb to the disc...
What are those 505[12] Mb?

 Try a medium that is accepted by the writer. It is known to be
 a bit specific abut media it likes.

Well, I always use the same media???

Grégoire

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Re: Cdrecord-ProDVD-Clone 2.01a20 problem

2003-12-15 Thread Joerg Schilling
From: Gregoire Favre [EMAIL PROTECTED]

I am just trying to burn a DVD with:

#!/bin/tcsh

setenv SIZE `mkisofs -dvd-video -q -print-size -V $1 $2`
setenv CDR_SECURITY 8:dvd...
mkisofs -dvd-video -V $1 $2 | cdrecord-prodvd -v dev=2,0,0 fs=64m speed=4 -eject -dao 
tsize={$SIZE}s -

And I got:

Cdrecord-ProDVD-Clone 2.01a20 (i686-pc-linux-gnu) Copyright (C) 1995-2003 Jörg 
Schilling
Unlocked features: ProDVD Clone 
Limited  features: 
This copy of cdrecord is licensed for: private/research/educational_non-commercial_use
TOC Type: 1 = CD-ROM
scsidev: '2,0,0'
scsibus: 2 target: 0 lun: 0
Linux sg driver version: 3.5.29
Using libscg version 'schily-0.7'
SCSI buffer size: 64512
atapi: 1
Device type: Removable CD-ROM
Version: 2
Response Format: 2
Capabilities   : 
Vendor_info: 'SONY'
Identifikation : 'DVD RW DRU-500A '
Revision   : '2.0f'
Device seems to be: Generic mmc2 DVD-R/DVD-RW.
Current: none
Profile: DVD+R 
Profile: DVD+RW 
Profile: DVD-RW sequential overwrite 
Profile: DVD-RW restricted overwrite 
Profile: DVD-R sequential recording 
Profile: DVD-ROM 
Profile: CD-RW 
Profile: CD-R 
Profile: CD-ROM 
Using generic SCSI-3/mmc   CD-R/CD-RW driver (mmc_cdr).
Driver flags   : MMC-3 SWABAUDIO BURNFREE 
Supported modes: TAO PACKET SAO SAO/R96R RAW/R96R
Drive buf size : 8112896 = 7922 KB
FIFO size  : 67108864 = 65536 KB
Track 01: data  4398 MB
Total size: 5051 MB (500:30.04) = 2252253 sectors
Lout start: 5052 MB (500:32/03) = 2252253 sectors
cdrecord-prodvd: Input/output error. test unit ready: scsi sendcmd: no error
CDB:  00 00 00 00 00 00
status: 0x2 (CHECK CONDITION)
Sense Bytes: 70 00 02 00 00 00 00 12 00 00 00 00 30 00 00 00
Sense Key: 0x2 Not Ready, Segment 0
Sense Code: 0x30 Qual 0x00 (incompatible medium installed) Fru 0x0
Sense flags: Blk 0 (not valid) 
cmd finished after 0.009s timeout 200s
cdrecord-prodvd: No disk / Wrong disk!

A du -m -s of the dir gives 4399 


Try a medium that is accepted by the writer. It is known to be
a bit specific abut media it likes.

Jörg

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Re: Cdrecord-ProDVD-Clone 2.01a20 problem

2003-12-15 Thread Gregoire Favre
On Mon, Dec 15, 2003 at 11:54:09PM +0100, Joerg Schilling wrote:

 Track 01: data  4398 MB
 Total size: 5051 MB (500:30.04) = 2252253 sectors
 Lout start: 5052 MB (500:32/03) = 2252253 sectors
 
 A du -m -s of the dir gives 4399 
   

I really try to burn 4399 Mb to the disc...
What are those 505[12] Mb?

 Try a medium that is accepted by the writer. It is known to be
 a bit specific abut media it likes.

Well, I always use the same media???

Grégoire

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Re: Cdrecord-ProDVD-Clone 2.01a20 problem

2003-12-15 Thread Gregoire Favre
On Tue, Dec 16, 2003 at 12:25:15AM +0100, Joerg Schilling wrote:

 Shure? 

I bought 200 no name with case and I have already burn about 50 without
problem... I have some other I could try with...

Well, with a Princo DVD-RW it start to burn ;-)

So unfortunately for me you should have right: all my media aren't the
same :-(

Sorry for the posts and thank you very much for the answer,

Grégoire

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Re: Cdrecord-ProDVD-Clone 2.01a20 problem

2003-12-15 Thread Joerg Schilling
From: Gregoire Favre [EMAIL PROTECTED]

I am just trying to burn a DVD with:

#!/bin/tcsh

setenv SIZE `mkisofs -dvd-video -q -print-size -V $1 $2`
setenv CDR_SECURITY 8:dvd...
mkisofs -dvd-video -V $1 $2 | cdrecord-prodvd -v dev=2,0,0 fs=64m speed=4 
-eject -dao tsize={$SIZE}s -

And I got:

Cdrecord-ProDVD-Clone 2.01a20 (i686-pc-linux-gnu) Copyright (C) 1995-2003 Jörg 
Schilling
Unlocked features: ProDVD Clone 
Limited  features: 
This copy of cdrecord is licensed for: 
private/research/educational_non-commercial_use
TOC Type: 1 = CD-ROM
scsidev: '2,0,0'
scsibus: 2 target: 0 lun: 0
Linux sg driver version: 3.5.29
Using libscg version 'schily-0.7'
SCSI buffer size: 64512
atapi: 1
Device type: Removable CD-ROM
Version: 2
Response Format: 2
Capabilities   : 
Vendor_info: 'SONY'
Identifikation : 'DVD RW DRU-500A '
Revision   : '2.0f'
Device seems to be: Generic mmc2 DVD-R/DVD-RW.
Current: none
Profile: DVD+R 
Profile: DVD+RW 
Profile: DVD-RW sequential overwrite 
Profile: DVD-RW restricted overwrite 
Profile: DVD-R sequential recording 
Profile: DVD-ROM 
Profile: CD-RW 
Profile: CD-R 
Profile: CD-ROM 
Using generic SCSI-3/mmc   CD-R/CD-RW driver (mmc_cdr).
Driver flags   : MMC-3 SWABAUDIO BURNFREE 
Supported modes: TAO PACKET SAO SAO/R96R RAW/R96R
Drive buf size : 8112896 = 7922 KB
FIFO size  : 67108864 = 65536 KB
Track 01: data  4398 MB
Total size: 5051 MB (500:30.04) = 2252253 sectors
Lout start: 5052 MB (500:32/03) = 2252253 sectors
cdrecord-prodvd: Input/output error. test unit ready: scsi sendcmd: no error
CDB:  00 00 00 00 00 00
status: 0x2 (CHECK CONDITION)
Sense Bytes: 70 00 02 00 00 00 00 12 00 00 00 00 30 00 00 00
Sense Key: 0x2 Not Ready, Segment 0
Sense Code: 0x30 Qual 0x00 (incompatible medium installed) Fru 0x0
Sense flags: Blk 0 (not valid) 
cmd finished after 0.009s timeout 200s
cdrecord-prodvd: No disk / Wrong disk!

A du -m -s of the dir gives 4399 


Try a medium that is accepted by the writer. It is known to be
a bit specific abut media it likes.

Jörg

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Re: Cdrecord-ProDVD-Clone 2.01a20 problem

2003-12-15 Thread Joerg Schilling
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 Try a medium that is accepted by the writer. It is known to be
 a bit specific abut media it likes.

Well, I always use the same media???

Shure? 


What kind of media do you use?


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Re: cdrecord-proDVD on Solaris x86 with Pioneer A05

2003-09-29 Thread aspinwall
Problem writing CD or DVD on Solaris 9 12/02

# cdrecord -blank=fast
Cdrecord-ProDVD-Clone 2.01a12 (i386-pc-solaris2.9) Copyright (C) 1995-2003 Jörg 
Schilling
Unlocked features: ProDVD Clone 
Limited  features: 
This copy of cdrecord is licensed for: private/research/educational_non-commercial_use
scsidev: '1,0,0'
scsibus: 1 target: 0 lun: 0
Warning: Using USCSI interface.
Using libscg version 'schily-0.7'
Device type: Removable CD-ROM
Version: 0
Response Format: 2
Capabilities   : 
Vendor_info: 'PIONEER '
Identifikation : 'DVD-RW  DVR-105 '
Revision   : '1.30'
Device seems to be: Generic mmc2 DVD-R/DVD-RW.
Using generic SCSI-3/mmc-2 DVD-R/DVD-RW driver (mmc_dvd).
Driver flags   : DVD MMC-3 SWABAUDIO BURNFREE 
Supported modes: TAO PACKET SAO SAO/R96P SAO/R96R RAW/R16 RAW/R96P RAW/R96R
WARNING: Phys disk size 307844 differs from rzone size 0! Prerecorded disk?
WARNING: Phys start: 196608 Phys end 504451
Starting to write CD/DVD at speed 1 in real BLANK mode for single session.
Last chance to quit, starting real write0 seconds. Operation starts.


# cdrecord -eject -v ./office.iso
Cdrecord-ProDVD-Clone 2.01a12 (i386-pc-solaris2.9) Copyright (C) 1995-2003 Jörg 
Schilling
Unlocked features: ProDVD Clone 
Limited  features: 
This copy of cdrecord is licensed for: private/research/educational_non-commercial_use
TOC Type: 1 = CD-ROM
scsidev: '1,0,0'
scsibus: 1 target: 0 lun: 0
Warning: Using USCSI interface.
Using libscg version 'schily-0.7'
atapi: 1
Device type: Removable CD-ROM
Version: 0
Response Format: 2
Capabilities   : 
Vendor_info: 'PIONEER '
Identifikation : 'DVD-RW  DVR-105 '
Revision   : '1.30'
Device seems to be: Generic mmc2 DVD-R/DVD-RW.
Current: DVD-RW sequential overwrite
Profile: DVD-RW sequential overwrite (current)
Profile: DVD-RW restricted overwrite (current)
Profile: DVD-R sequential recording (current)
Profile: DVD-ROM 
Profile: CD-RW 
Profile: CD-R 
Profile: CD-ROM 
Using generic SCSI-3/mmc-2 DVD-R/DVD-RW driver (mmc_dvd).
Driver flags   : DVD MMC-3 SWABAUDIO BURNFREE 
Supported modes: TAO PACKET SAO SAO/R96P SAO/R96R RAW/R16 RAW/R96P RAW/R96R
Drive buf size : 1605632 = 1568 KB
FIFO size  : 16777216 = 16384 KB
Track 01: data   601 MB
Total size:  601 MB = 307844 sectors
Current Secsize: 2048
Total power on  hours: 10490
WARNING: Phys disk size 307844 differs from rzone size 2298496! Prerecorded disk?
WARNING: Phys start: 196608 Phys end 504451
Blocks total: 2298496 Blocks current: 2298496 Blocks remaining: 1990652
Starting to write CD/DVD at speed 1 in real TAO mode for single session.
Last chance to quit, starting real write0 seconds. Operation starts.
Waiting for reader process to fill input buffer ... input buffer ready.
BURN-Free is OFF.
Starting new track at sector: 0
Track 01:1 of  601 MB written (fifo  99%) [buf  67%]  11.4x.cdrecord-ProDVD: I/O 
error. write_g1: scsi sendcmd: no error
CDB:  2A 00 00 00 03 07 00 00 1F 00
status: 0x2 (CHECK CONDITION)
Sense Bytes: F1 00 05 00 00 03 10 0E 00 00 00 00 21 02 00 00 00 00
Sense Key: 0x5 Illegal Request, deferred error, Segment 0
Sense Code: 0x21 Qual 0x02 (invalid address for write) Fru 0x0
Sense flags: Blk 784 (valid) 
resid: 63488
cmd finished after 15.001s timeout 100s

write track data: error after 1587200 bytes
cdrecord-ProDVD: The current problem looks like a buffer underrun.
cdrecord-ProDVD: Try to use 'driveropts=burnfree'.
cdrecord-ProDVD: Make sure that you are root, enable DMA and check your HW/OS set up.
Writing  time:   20.189s
Average write speed  22.6x.
Fixating...
Fixating time:0.005s
cdrecord-ProDVD: fifo had 280 puts and 26 gets.
cdrecord-ProDVD: fifo was 0 times empty and 4 times full, min fill was 96%.

DMA is enabled on the DVR-A05 drive, DVD and CDs can be read correctly.


Checking the reading for the Pioneer Drive
# readcd dev=1,0,0 f=/dev/null
Read  speed:  2770 kB/s (CD  15x, DVD  2x).
Write speed:  2770 kB/s (CD  15x, DVD  2x).
Capacity: 1445411 Blocks = 2890822 kBytes = 2823 MBytes = 2960 prMB
Sectorsize: 2048 Bytes
Copy from SCSI (1,0,0) disk to file '/dev/null'
end:   1445411
addr:  1445411 cnt: 358
Time total: 0.840sec
Read 2890822.00 kB at 3441454.8 kB/sec.

Checking for DVD-ROM drive
# readcd dev=0,0,0  f=/dev/null
Read  speed:  1408 kB/s (CD   8x, DVD  1x).
Write speed: 0 kB/s (CD   0x, DVD  0x).
Capacity: 1445411 Blocks = 2890822 kBytes = 2823 MBytes = 2960 prMB
Sectorsize: 2048 Bytes
Copy from SCSI (0,0,0) disk to file '/dev/null'
end:   1445411
addr:  1445411 cnt: 358  --- should = 32
Time total: 0.903sec
Read 2890822.00 kB at 3201353.3 kB/sec.





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Re: cdrecord-proDVD on Solaris x86 with Pioneer A05

2003-09-29 Thread aspinwall
Problem writing CD or DVD on Solaris 9 12/02

# cdrecord -blank=fast
Cdrecord-ProDVD-Clone 2.01a12 (i386-pc-solaris2.9) Copyright (C) 1995-2003 Jörg 
Schilling
Unlocked features: ProDVD Clone 
Limited  features: 
This copy of cdrecord is licensed for: 
private/research/educational_non-commercial_use
scsidev: '1,0,0'
scsibus: 1 target: 0 lun: 0
Warning: Using USCSI interface.
Using libscg version 'schily-0.7'
Device type: Removable CD-ROM
Version: 0
Response Format: 2
Capabilities   : 
Vendor_info: 'PIONEER '
Identifikation : 'DVD-RW  DVR-105 '
Revision   : '1.30'
Device seems to be: Generic mmc2 DVD-R/DVD-RW.
Using generic SCSI-3/mmc-2 DVD-R/DVD-RW driver (mmc_dvd).
Driver flags   : DVD MMC-3 SWABAUDIO BURNFREE 
Supported modes: TAO PACKET SAO SAO/R96P SAO/R96R RAW/R16 RAW/R96P RAW/R96R
WARNING: Phys disk size 307844 differs from rzone size 0! Prerecorded disk?
WARNING: Phys start: 196608 Phys end 504451
Starting to write CD/DVD at speed 1 in real BLANK mode for single session.
Last chance to quit, starting real write0 seconds. Operation starts.


# cdrecord -eject -v ./office.iso
Cdrecord-ProDVD-Clone 2.01a12 (i386-pc-solaris2.9) Copyright (C) 1995-2003 Jörg 
Schilling
Unlocked features: ProDVD Clone 
Limited  features: 
This copy of cdrecord is licensed for: 
private/research/educational_non-commercial_use
TOC Type: 1 = CD-ROM
scsidev: '1,0,0'
scsibus: 1 target: 0 lun: 0
Warning: Using USCSI interface.
Using libscg version 'schily-0.7'
atapi: 1
Device type: Removable CD-ROM
Version: 0
Response Format: 2
Capabilities   : 
Vendor_info: 'PIONEER '
Identifikation : 'DVD-RW  DVR-105 '
Revision   : '1.30'
Device seems to be: Generic mmc2 DVD-R/DVD-RW.
Current: DVD-RW sequential overwrite
Profile: DVD-RW sequential overwrite (current)
Profile: DVD-RW restricted overwrite (current)
Profile: DVD-R sequential recording (current)
Profile: DVD-ROM 
Profile: CD-RW 
Profile: CD-R 
Profile: CD-ROM 
Using generic SCSI-3/mmc-2 DVD-R/DVD-RW driver (mmc_dvd).
Driver flags   : DVD MMC-3 SWABAUDIO BURNFREE 
Supported modes: TAO PACKET SAO SAO/R96P SAO/R96R RAW/R16 RAW/R96P RAW/R96R
Drive buf size : 1605632 = 1568 KB
FIFO size  : 16777216 = 16384 KB
Track 01: data   601 MB
Total size:  601 MB = 307844 sectors
Current Secsize: 2048
Total power on  hours: 10490
WARNING: Phys disk size 307844 differs from rzone size 2298496! Prerecorded 
disk?
WARNING: Phys start: 196608 Phys end 504451
Blocks total: 2298496 Blocks current: 2298496 Blocks remaining: 1990652
Starting to write CD/DVD at speed 1 in real TAO mode for single session.
Last chance to quit, starting real write0 seconds. Operation starts.
Waiting for reader process to fill input buffer ... input buffer ready.
BURN-Free is OFF.
Starting new track at sector: 0
Track 01:1 of  601 MB written (fifo  99%) [buf  67%]  
11.4x.cdrecord-ProDVD: I/O error. write_g1: scsi sendcmd: no error
CDB:  2A 00 00 00 03 07 00 00 1F 00
status: 0x2 (CHECK CONDITION)
Sense Bytes: F1 00 05 00 00 03 10 0E 00 00 00 00 21 02 00 00 00 00
Sense Key: 0x5 Illegal Request, deferred error, Segment 0
Sense Code: 0x21 Qual 0x02 (invalid address for write) Fru 0x0
Sense flags: Blk 784 (valid) 
resid: 63488
cmd finished after 15.001s timeout 100s

write track data: error after 1587200 bytes
cdrecord-ProDVD: The current problem looks like a buffer underrun.
cdrecord-ProDVD: Try to use 'driveropts=burnfree'.
cdrecord-ProDVD: Make sure that you are root, enable DMA and check your HW/OS 
set up.
Writing  time:   20.189s
Average write speed  22.6x.
Fixating...
Fixating time:0.005s
cdrecord-ProDVD: fifo had 280 puts and 26 gets.
cdrecord-ProDVD: fifo was 0 times empty and 4 times full, min fill was 96%.

DMA is enabled on the DVR-A05 drive, DVD and CDs can be read correctly.


Checking the reading for the Pioneer Drive
# readcd dev=1,0,0 f=/dev/null
Read  speed:  2770 kB/s (CD  15x, DVD  2x).
Write speed:  2770 kB/s (CD  15x, DVD  2x).
Capacity: 1445411 Blocks = 2890822 kBytes = 2823 MBytes = 2960 prMB
Sectorsize: 2048 Bytes
Copy from SCSI (1,0,0) disk to file '/dev/null'
end:   1445411
addr:  1445411 cnt: 358
Time total: 0.840sec
Read 2890822.00 kB at 3441454.8 kB/sec.

Checking for DVD-ROM drive
# readcd dev=0,0,0  f=/dev/null
Read  speed:  1408 kB/s (CD   8x, DVD  1x).
Write speed: 0 kB/s (CD   0x, DVD  0x).
Capacity: 1445411 Blocks = 2890822 kBytes = 2823 MBytes = 2960 prMB
Sectorsize: 2048 Bytes
Copy from SCSI (0,0,0) disk to file '/dev/null'
end:   1445411
addr:  1445411 cnt: 358  --- should = 32
Time total: 0.903sec
Read 2890822.00 kB at 3201353.3 kB/sec.






Re: cdrecord-proDVD ,linux and IEEE1394

2003-03-19 Thread Matthias Schniedermeyer
On Wed, Mar 19, 2003 at 09:58:51AM -0700, Ashish Rangole wrote:
 All,
 
 I would like to know if anybody has tried burning
 CD/DVD in linux on a drive with IEEE1394(firewire) 
 interface and if it has been tried with cdrecord-proDVD.
 
 I am thinking of using cdrecord-proDVD on Mandrake 9.0
 and the burner is a Pioneer DVD A-04 with IDE to IEEE1394 
 convertor in front. I wish to know how IEEE1394 works on
 linux in general and with CD/DVD writers having IEEE1394
 interface.
 
 Any response will be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance.

I've always burned (DVDs) via Firewire. Thats since 1,5 years.

No problems.




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Re: cdrecord-ProDVD-2.0.1 ready

2003-02-06 Thread Gregoire Favre
On Thu, Feb 06, 2003 at 10:49:42AM +0100, Joerg Schilling wrote:

 I added support for the buffer underrun protection system in the Pioneer A03.

Is there any reason to upgrade if I have another writer?

And a small question: by default buffer underrun is off, is there a
special reason for that?

Thank you very much,

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Re: cdrecord-ProDVD-2.0.1 ready

2003-02-06 Thread Joerg Schilling

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On Thu, Feb 06, 2003 at 10:49:42AM +0100, Joerg Schilling wrote:
 I added support for the buffer underrun protection system in the Pioneer A03.

The A03?  Does it support that?  Is that something added to later models
then because I don't see any sign of it's existance:

arrow:~/cdrecord-prodvd# ./cdrecord-prodvd-2.0.1-i586-pc-linux-gnu -dev 2,0,0 -v -v 
driveropts=help -checkdrive
Cdrecord-ProDVD-Clone 2.0.1 (i586-pc-linux-gnu) Copyright (C) 1995-2002 Jörg Schilling
Unlocked features:
Limited  features:
TOC Type: 1 = CD-ROM
scsidev: '2,0,0'
scsibus: 2 target: 0 lun: 0
Linux sg driver version: 3.1.24
Using libscg version 'schily-0.7'
Using libscg transport code version 'schily-scsi-linux-sg.c-1.75'
Driveropts: 'help'
atapi: 1
Device type: Removable CD-ROM
Version: 2
Response Format: 2
Capabilities   :
Vendor_info: 'PIONEER '
Identifikation : 'DVD-RW  DVR-103 '
Revision   : '1.80'
Device seems to be: Generic mmc2 DVD-R/DVD-RW.
./cdrecord-prodvd-2.0.1-i586-pc-linux-gnu: This version of cdrecord limits 
DVD-R/DVD-RW support to -dummy or 1 GB real.
./cdrecord-prodvd-2.0.1-i586-pc-linux-gnu: If you need full DVD-R/DVD-RW support, ask 
the Author for cdrecord-ProDVD.
Driver options:
None supported for this drive.

Looks like you did not read the Pioneer specs.
As the drive only supports it for DVD and _not_ for CD media, you of course 
need to  insert a DVD medium first.


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Re: cdrecord-ProDVD-2.0.1 ready

2003-02-06 Thread Len Sorensen
On Thu, Feb 06, 2003 at 05:20:12PM +0100, Joerg Schilling wrote:
 Looks like you did not read the Pioneer specs.
 As the drive only supports it for DVD and _not_ for CD media, you of course 
 need to  insert a DVD medium first.

Ah OK.  I actually thought the spec said it didn't do it at all, but I
has been a while since I looked at it.  I will try with a DVD in the
drive.

Well I just checked, and yep you are right of course.  It sees the
option now.  Yay!

So what restrictions are there on when you can use it?  Can you do DVD
video with it on, or only data or what?

Len Sorensen


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Re: cdrecord-ProDVD and Memorex writer

2002-11-26 Thread Andy Polyakov
 Using a Memorex DVD+RW/+R writer with X-CD Roast under Linux
  ^ See
http://fy.chalmers.se/~appro/linux/DVD+RW/. A.


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Re: CDRecord-ProDVD

2002-10-27 Thread Joerg Schilling
From: Karl Bellve [EMAIL PROTECTED]

As far as reading man pages and readmes...I bet I am one of the few
people on this planet that has gotten rscsi to even work!

If you know how to use and set up 'rsh' commands on your system, it is 
pretty simple. Setting up RSCSI on win32 really is not trivial,
but this is caused by win32 constraints.

Jörg

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Re: CDRecord-ProDVD

2002-10-27 Thread Joerg Schilling
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  If you believe that the man page should be rewritten, you are welcome
  to do the job!
 
  I would be happy if at least some of the cdrtools users leave their 
  attitute of only waiting for being supplied with free software.

Since the discussion drifted to language, I'd like to comment on the
following cdrecord output:

Track 01:5 MB written (fifo 100%) [buf 100%]  10.6x.  2.47% done,
estimate finish Sat Oct 26 04:57:16 2002

I believe estimate finish is better rendered as estimated finish,
unless the phrase expands to I estimate the burn will finish at [*].
Otherwise I tend to read it as The burn's estimated finish is at [*],
where estimated is used as a participle modifiying the noun finish.
Constructions similar to this would be unwritten law or estimated
time of arrival (ETA).

The text is not from cdrecord but from mkisofs and has been writtn by
Eric Youngdale - a nativ English speaking american.

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Re: CDRecord-ProDVD

2002-10-25 Thread Joerg Schilling
From: Karl Bellve [EMAIL PROTECTED]

I am having trouble piping from mkisofs to cdrecord-ProDVD

I can write an iso with mkisofs, then use cdrecord-ProDVD without
problems.

Inside a script, I have the following:

mkisofs -J -r -T $@ | burndvd fs=16m -v speed=2 dev=0,0,0 -

The man page and the README on ftp://ftp.fokus.gmd.de/pub/unix/cdrecord/ProDVD/
describe why this cannot work. It would help if you read these documents.

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Re: CDRecord-ProDVD

2002-10-25 Thread Karl Bellve


Len Sorensen wrote:
 

 
 What is the error or problem though?  You just said what you did,
 nothing about what happened.  The parameters look fine to me on first
 glance.
 
 What hardware (which drive model), etc, what error codes, some logs,
 type of media, etc.  Give us something to work with.
 
 Len Sorensen

I suppose that would help!

Cdrecord-ProDVD-Clone 1.11a35 (i586-pc-linux-gnu) Copyright (C)
1995-2002 Jörg Schilling
Unlocked features: ProDVD Clone
Limited  features: speed
This copy of cdrecord is licensed for:
private/research/educational_non-commercial_use
TOC Type: 1 = CD-ROM
scsidev: '0,0,0'
scsibus: 0 target: 0 lun: 0
Linux sg driver version: 3.1.22
Using libscg version 'schily-0.6'
atapi: 1
Device type: Removable CD-ROM
Version: 0
Response Format: 2
Capabilities   :
Vendor_info: 'PIONEER '
Identifikation : 'DVD-RW  DVR-104 '
Revision   : '1.20'
Device seems to be: Generic mmc2 DVD.
Using generic SCSI-3/mmc-2 DVD-R/DVD-RW driver (mmc_dvd).
Driver flags   : DVD SWABAUDIO BURNFREE
Supported modes: TAO PACKET SAO SAO/R96P SAO/R96R
FIFO size  : 16777216 = 16384 KB
Track 01: data  unknown length
Total size:0 MB = 0 sectors
Current Secsize: 2048
Total power on  hours: 3198
cdrecord-prodvd-1.11a35: WARNING: Total disk size unknown. Data may not
fit on disk.
Starting to write CD/DVD at speed 1 in real TAO mode for single session.
Last chance to quit, starting real write0 seconds. Operation starts.
Waiting for reader process to fill input buffer ... input buffer ready.
BURN-Free is OFF.
cdrecord-prodvd-1.11a35: VTrack 0 has unknown length.
Writing  time:0.081s
Fixating...
Fixating time:0.004s
cdrecord-prodvd-1.11a35: fifo had 255 puts and 0 gets.
cdrecord-prodvd-1.11a35: fifo was 0 times empty and 0 times full, min
fill was 100%.


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Re: CDRecord-ProDVD

2002-10-25 Thread Matthias Schniedermeyer
On Fri, Oct 25, 2002 at 02:48:58PM +0200, Joerg Schilling wrote:
 From: Karl Bellve [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 I am having trouble piping from mkisofs to cdrecord-ProDVD
 
 I can write an iso with mkisofs, then use cdrecord-ProDVD without
 problems.
 
 Inside a script, I have the following:
 
 mkisofs -J -r -T $@ | burndvd fs=16m -v speed=2 dev=0,0,0 -
 
 The man page and the README on ftp://ftp.fokus.gmd.de/pub/unix/cdrecord/ProDVD/
 describe why this cannot work. It would help if you read these documents.

Maybe i'm stupid or blind (or both).
Bt the README (in the dir) doesn't say a word about that and there is
no man-page.


Btw. You should update the Paragrah about the Free-License. (Last sentence.)
- snip -
As I am not sure if people will follow my licensing rules, so these
keys are time limited and will expire on 2003 Jan 15 14:06:29.
I will continue to make private/educational/research use free,
but it may be that you need to request your private key for free
after June 17th.
- snip -




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Re: CDRecord-ProDVD

2002-10-25 Thread Karl Bellve

Ok, is there another DVD burning program that supports the Pioneer A04
drive that can handle this? 

I am tired of Joerg's comments to me and other people, and I will tell
my people to boot the computers into windows to burn DVDs until I get
another program to burn DVDs under Linux.

I have read both documents, many times. The man page for CDRecord and
the README in your FTP directory. Some of the comments in both are hard
to understand. I believe due to the poor German to English translation.

For example, The following paragraph is not easily understandable:

IMPORTANT NOTICE:

***
The current versions do not work for DVD recording
if you specify the -dao option. They write in DAO
only without the -dao option.
Cdrecord-ProDVD-1.11a35 and later fix this bug and
allow to spedify -dao for correctness. Later versions
will disallow to use cdrecord without -dao if
writing DVDs.
***

Too many double negatives to be easily understandable. 

Later versions will disallow to use cdrecord without -dao if writing
DVDs.

Should be rewritten as:

Later versions of cdrecord will only write DVDs if -dao is specified.

Many examples of this in the README and the MAN page. So, if you want me
to use the man page or README to solve my problem, I suggest you do a
better job of writing them, or have someone else with a better command
of the english language write them.


There is no man page for CDRecord-ProDVD. The only thing I got is a
binary.



Joerg Schilling wrote:
 
 From: Karl Bellve [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 I am having trouble piping from mkisofs to cdrecord-ProDVD
 
 I can write an iso with mkisofs, then use cdrecord-ProDVD without
 problems.
 
 Inside a script, I have the following:
 
 mkisofs -J -r -T $@ | burndvd fs=16m -v speed=2 dev=0,0,0 -
 
 The man page and the README on ftp://ftp.fokus.gmd.de/pub/unix/cdrecord/ProDVD/
 describe why this cannot work. It would help if you read these documents.
 
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Re: CDRecord-ProDVD

2002-10-25 Thread Joerg Schilling

From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fri Oct 25 17:17:05 2002

Ok, is there another DVD burning program that supports the Pioneer A04
drive that can handle this? 

I am tired of Joerg's comments to me and other people, and I will tell
my people to boot the computers into windows to burn DVDs until I get
another program to burn DVDs under Linux.

I am tired of people who do not like to read the documentation.
Do you really not know how much of my free time goes into cdrecord?
It is not my task to send you a mail with parts of the man page.
It is your task to _read_ the man page. I spend a lot of time in writing it.

I have read both documents, many times. The man page for CDRecord and
the README in your FTP directory. Some of the comments in both are hard
to understand. I believe due to the poor German to English translation.

For example, The following paragraph is not easily understandable:

IMPORTANT NOTICE:

***
The current versions do not work for DVD recording
if you specify the -dao option. They write in DAO
only without the -dao option.
Cdrecord-ProDVD-1.11a35 and later fix this bug and
allow to spedify -dao for correctness. Later versions
will disallow to use cdrecord without -dao if
writing DVDs.
***

Too many double negatives to be easily understandable. 

I am no native english speaker. We can switch this discussion to German
if you like.


Many examples of this in the README and the MAN page. So, if you want me
to use the man page or README to solve my problem, I suggest you do a
better job of writing them, or have someone else with a better command
of the english language write them.

If you believe that the man page should be rewritten, you are welcome to
do the job!

I would be happy if at least some of the cdrtools users leave their 
attitute of only waiting for being supplied with free software.

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Re: CDRecord-ProDVD

2002-10-25 Thread Karl Bellve

I am not even sure why are you even on this list if everything is
answered in the man pages or readmes. 

Remember, not all questions are directed at you. I don't remember
emailing you, but emailing the mailing list. There are many other people
on the list who might answer a question even though the answer might be
hidden deep inside a man page in a poorly written sentence. If you feel
that the answer is in the man page, just keep that to yourself. 

Again, the following section is not meant for you but for everyone else.

mkisofs will estimate the size of a track with the option -print-size.
The answer given via STDOUT, is in CD Blocks. You then pass this
information to CDRecord with the option -tsize. CDRecord does not
identifying that this is a problem in the first place. 

I have yet to get this to work either.

As far as reading man pages and readmes...I bet I am one of the few
people on this planet that has gotten rscsi to even work!




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Re: CDRecord-ProDVD

2002-10-25 Thread rob
cdblocks=` mkisofs -print-size -quiet ... `
mkisofs ... | cdrecord ... tsize=${cdblocks}s -

Make sure you have the s at the end of tsize=, otherwise cdrecord 
interprets it as something other than CD blocks.  I had this problem for 
a while...



Karl Bellve wrote:

I am not even sure why are you even on this list if everything is
answered in the man pages or readmes. 

Remember, not all questions are directed at you. I don't remember
emailing you, but emailing the mailing list. There are many other people
on the list who might answer a question even though the answer might be
hidden deep inside a man page in a poorly written sentence. If you feel
that the answer is in the man page, just keep that to yourself. 

Again, the following section is not meant for you but for everyone else.

mkisofs will estimate the size of a track with the option -print-size.
The answer given via STDOUT, is in CD Blocks. You then pass this
information to CDRecord with the option -tsize. CDRecord does not
identifying that this is a problem in the first place. 

I have yet to get this to work either.

As far as reading man pages and readmes...I bet I am one of the few
people on this planet that has gotten rscsi to even work!




 



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Re: CDRecord-ProDVD

2002-10-25 Thread Karl Bellve


rob wrote:
 
 cdblocks=` mkisofs -print-size -quiet ... `
 mkisofs ... | cdrecord ... tsize=${cdblocks}s -
 
 Make sure you have the s at the end of tsize=, otherwise cdrecord
 interprets it as something other than CD blocks.  I had this problem for
 a while...

Rob,

That worked. Thanks!

The man page does say to look at the fs= option when you read the tsize=
option. The example near the bottom of the man page does show mkisofs
-print-size; mkisofs /dir | cdrecord tsize=XXXs -

But, I overlooked that s since an s usually means plural.  

Better way to show it as an example is the way you did it, with the
brackets, as if written in a shell script.


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Re: CDRecord-ProDVD

2002-10-25 Thread csj
On Fri, 25 Oct 2002 18:06:27 +0200 (CEST)
Joerg Schilling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  I am no native english speaker. We can switch this discussion to
  German if you like.

[CUT OUT] 

  If you believe that the man page should be rewritten, you are welcome
  to do the job!
 
  I would be happy if at least some of the cdrtools users leave their 
  attitute of only waiting for being supplied with free software.

Since the discussion drifted to language, I'd like to comment on the
following cdrecord output:

Track 01:5 MB written (fifo 100%) [buf 100%]  10.6x.  2.47% done,
estimate finish Sat Oct 26 04:57:16 2002

I believe estimate finish is better rendered as estimated finish,
unless the phrase expands to I estimate the burn will finish at [*].
Otherwise I tend to read it as The burn's estimated finish is at [*],
where estimated is used as a participle modifiying the noun finish.
Constructions similar to this would be unwritten law or estimated
time of arrival (ETA).


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Re: CDRecord-ProDVD

2002-10-24 Thread Len Sorensen
On Thu, Oct 24, 2002 at 04:32:16PM -0400, Karl Bellve wrote:
 
 I am having trouble piping from mkisofs to cdrecord-ProDVD
 
 I can write an iso with mkisofs, then use cdrecord-ProDVD without
 problems.
 
 Inside a script, I have the following:
 
 mkisofs -J -r -T $@ | burndvd fs=16m -v speed=2 dev=0,0,0 -
 
 
 burndvd is another wrapper script with the following:
 
 
CDR_SECURITY=8:dvd,clone,lowspeed:sparc-sun-solaris2,i386-pc-solaris2,i586-pc-linux,powerpc-apple,hppa,powerpc-ibm-aix:1.11::1042635989:::private/research/educational_non-commercial_use:3NaRjwt1W9tnGJ7Wu7EvWScX93MUiiKKwYB6ABoUFRJ2j8bgW9YjTzDOk17
 
 export CDR_SECURITY
 exec cdrecord-prodvd-1.11a35 $@

What is the error or problem though?  You just said what you did,
nothing about what happened.  The parameters look fine to me on first
glance.

What hardware (which drive model), etc, what error codes, some logs,
type of media, etc.  Give us something to work with.

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Re: cdrecord-ProDVD (fwd)

2002-06-13 Thread Joerg Schilling

From: Lourens Veen [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Okay, I've been reading this entire discussion for the past couple=20
of days, and I am wondering why there isn't a fork (or even a=20
completely alternative implementation) of cdrtools yet.

I believe that it is easy to find an answer to this question:

Since more than a year, I it seems that I am the only person who is working on
free CD recording software (cdrecord).

Of course, I like to note that Heiko Eißfeldt is working on cdda2wav 
and James Pearson helpe me with mkisofs.



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Re: cdrecord-ProDVD (fwd)

2002-06-13 Thread Lourens Veen

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On Thursday 13 June 2002 12:09, Joerg Schilling wrote:

 Please be more polite to other people!

 Why did you choose to introduce these harsh words? I never used
 them!


 The main problem with most (maybe all???) Linux developers is
 that they usually lack background knowledge.


 Le't make me an example: The problem with non-stable interfaces
 seems to be caused by the fact that the authors simply don't know
 what an interface is. So they don't know what they should treat
 carefully and try to keep stable.


 If they wouldn't read Linux sources only but look to the left and
 to the right (by e.g. reading Solaris and FreeBSD sources) they
 would discover that there is a lot of much better coded stuff
 out

 Jörg

I'm wondering, why do you support Linux at all? If it's such a badly 
coded and proprietary system, then why don't you just drop support 
for it? That should save a lot of work since you can close most 
bugreports with a simple sorry, Linux is unsupported, and in the 
extra time that that gives you you could improve support on the 
OSes you do like (ie Solaris and BSD).

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Re: cdrecord-ProDVD (fwd)

2002-06-13 Thread Joerg Schilling


From: Norbert Preining [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Don, 13 Jun 2002, Joerg Schilling wrote:
 Please be more polite to other people!

That was a joke and sarcastic, sorry, next time I put in a smiley so
that everybody will understand!

 The main problem with most (maybe all???) Linux developers is that they usually 
 lack background knowledge.

If you can give only the slightest idea on how to prove this completely
wrong assumption, go on and do it!

This is a result from discussions with several programmers. 

I tried to tell them what could be done better but to no avail.

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Re: cdrecord-ProDVD (fwd)

2002-06-13 Thread Joerg Schilling

From: Lourens Veen [EMAIL PROTECTED]

I'm wondering, why do you support Linux at all? If it's such a badly=20
coded and proprietary system, then why don't you just drop support=20
for it? That should save a lot of work since you can close most=20
bugreports with a simple sorry, Linux is unsupported, and in the=20
extra time that that gives you you could improve support on the=20
OSes you do like (ie Solaris and BSD).

Unfortunately it is wiedely spread. I also support Win32
I support true free software - not software that is e.g. limited to run on 
Linux only. Any OS that is closer to the POSIX standard than M$ systems 
helps to fight against M$. Unfortunately most Linux followers don't like to 
admit this.

Of course, most of the people who report problems in fact do rather report 
problems of the Linux kernel than problems from cdrecord.

I would have much more time for improoving my code if I woudn't get those mail.

Now I have to write many replies each day, mostly only stating that the person 
should rather contact the Linux kernel hackers to get help for his/her problem.



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RE: cdrecord-ProDVD (fwd)

2002-06-13 Thread Eyermann Horst ICM Bocholt

It's amusing these discussions on this list here. The only reason for me to
stay on it, as cdrtools work without problemce

 If you can give only the slightest idea on how to prove this 
 completely
 wrong assumption, go on and do it!
 
 This is a result from discussions with several programmers. 
 
 I tried to tell them what could be done better but to no avail.
 

Well, Jörg to be honeset, I sometimes find it difficult to follow your
arguments, perhaps because there is a tendency of stating what things should
be like without beeing elaborate. Sometimes others need a bit more input to
see why something is good/not so good.

Lets face it, there are little programs which do work with that many
platforms, but there also little programs developed by so few people. 


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Re: CDRecord-ProDVD

2002-06-13 Thread Joerg Schilling

From: Karl Bellve [EMAIL PROTECTED]

I am testing CDRecord-ProDVD and it is performing well.

I have a few questions:

1) Does CDRecord-ProDVD use /etc/default/cdrecord as its configuration
file or some other file?

2) Any get kreatecd to use CDRecord-ProDVD to burn a DVD-RW or DVD-R
disk? 


I prefer to use kreatecd since it is much simplier and it is designed
for Data. Currently, we use wrapper scripts for mkisofs/cdrecord but
having a GUI where uses drag and drop files would be nice. X-CDRoast
needs a flag to put it into simple mode for just doing Data.

Xcdroast should work with cdrecord-ProDVD, Thomas promised me to fix some
problems with DVD recording for the last release.

Xcdroast should also be able to support a nice GUI to the graft points 
interface in mkisofs.

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Re: cdrecord-ProDVD

2002-06-12 Thread Nicolae Mihalache

Joerg Schilling wrote:
From: Dan Hollis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 
On Wed, 12 Jun 2002, Plamen Neykov wrote:

I know it is a stupid question, but ... 
Do I still have to use cdrecord-prodvd to record DVD-R's or it is possible just to 
use the normal version of cdrecord?

 
If you have pioneer DVDRW (A103,A104,103,104), you can use dvdrtools.
http://www.freesoftware.fsf.org/dvdrtools/
It's an independent code fork of cdrtools.
 
 
 Please don't be unfair...
 
 This is not an independant fork of cdrtools!
 
 It is rather an _unmaintained_ snapshot that uses an add on which 
 most likely has been created by reverse engineering cdrecord-ProDVD.
 Give me a better explanagtion why the hell the patch this beast is
 related on appeard about a week after I announced my first test binary
 and about two weeks after I put the binary on the server. Keeping in mind that
 is is a 100 line patch and that the first binary test version of cdrecord-ProDVD
 did not come with -V disabled...

You also should non be unfair
Is rather that you have posted the prodvd version on the website one 
week after I anounced that I'm working on a version of cdrecord that 
supports A103 drive. I had no problem implementing support for DAO mode, 
it is rather simple if you read the necessary documentation. But I had 
problems implementing multisession support.Keiji Katata from Pioneer 
Japan was the one that helped me in implementing this driver. But it was 
no magic, like you said I only did 10% of the job, the rest was already 
done in cdrecord.

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Re: cdrecord-ProDVD (fwd)

2002-06-12 Thread Norbert Preining

Finally a well said answer without flaming, completely opposed to Jörg
unfriendly comments. Congratulations.

Best wishes

Norbert

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Re: cdrecord-ProDVD (fwd)

2002-06-12 Thread Dan Hollis

On Wed, 12 Jun 2002, Bernhard Rosenkraenzer wrote:
  Look at the web page and judge yourself. The first thing that comes into
  mind is the 'pay' button.
 Actually the sole reason I placed it there is to show people you can ask 
 users to contribute without violating the GPL.
 If people find it offensive, I'll just remove it -- there, done.

I didn't find it offensive at all. I was happy to find open source dvd 
writing program for my Pioneer 104. I gladly donate money to open source 
program, so I don't have to worry about a closed binary-only with 
license key that might shutdown on certain date depending on the mood of
the author.

And for the record joerg, if you had a paypal donate button for the open 
source cdrecord, I would donate for that too.

I won't support closed-source binaries though.

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Re: cdrecord-ProDVD

2002-06-12 Thread Joerg Schilling

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Hi Guys,

I know it is a stupid question, but ... 
Do I still have to use cdrecord-prodvd to record DVD-R's or it is possible just to 
use the normal version of cdrecord?

As the GPL does not prvent DW thiefs from taking my source and making prorietary
SW out of it, it makes no sense to make sources GPL if they are leading edge.


What is your problem with cdrecord-ProDVD?

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Re: cdrecord-ProDVD (fwd)

2002-06-12 Thread Joerg Schilling


From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wed Jun 12 10:50:54 2002

On Tue, 11 Jun 2002, Dan Hollis wrote:

 joerg is calling you a thief...

This is not true! I never used this word in my mail


Thanks for notifying me.
He should reconsider this, because the only theft in this whole mess 
wasn't what I did.

??? 

Interesting to see that you are not completely unwilling to communicate



cdrecord is a GPLed software, and contains contributions from people other 
than him, and those people did not sign a copyright signover of any kind.

So by running his own proprietary fork of it, he is violating the GPL on 
parts of the code (including a couple of mostly oneliner patches by me, 
and I'm sure that I for one do *not* agree with any of my code being 
used in proprietary software.).

Plese contact a lawyer before making such false claims:

Read the law that is important for this case:

Cdrecord has completely been written in Germany.
The German / European Copyright law (better let us call it
Autorship rights law as the US people otherwise would missunderstand
us because thay only have a Copyright law) is what applies here.

Yes I did get contributions, but this was less than 5% in total and
far less than 1% for the Linux or Solaris version.

The Autorship rights law is dealing with a so called work
and _not_ with single lines of code.

In addition there is some principles of law that deal with
accumulation of property which apply because there is not even a 
single source file that includes contributed code in a way that
it dominates over the aount of my intellectual property found
in this file.

For this reason I am the original Author of cdrecord and _do_ have the right to 
publish it with any Licence I like. For the parts that are not critical code
because the know how is widely spread, I choosed the GPL and for the parts where
I am on the leading edge (cdrecord_ProDVD was the 3rd DVD-recording application
world wide in February 1998) I keep the sources secret.

I _am_ getting roughly one request to help other people from India, China or 
Russia for free to write their CDR program so I am sure that even CD recording
is of high interest for many companies that like to cdreate a complete closed 
source solution.



Let's look at his other accusations:

 This is not an independant fork of cdrtools!

It sort of is. It's intended to be a free fork closely following the 
development of cdrtools, which happens to be a great piece 
of software for writing CDs. It's just too bad there are no plans to add 
DVD support in a legal version thereof, so it's time for someone else to 
do it.

Cdrecord-ProDVD is a legal DVDD writing program what is your problem?

In addition: Why do _you_ claim this and never tried to contact me before?
You cannot know what you are talking of because you did not ask me!


You can claim it's not really independant because it doesn't contain all 
that many changes to the cdrtools code, and you'd be somewhat right - 
I just added DVD support and fixed up [IMO -- see below] the build 
system.

You did not fix it but you destroy the build system. You replaced a completely
automated build system that allows you to compile on far more than 30 different OS
by something worse. Why?


If it ever becomes necessary, it can become a truly independant fork, 
though. I just hope it won't get that far.

???


 It is rather an _unmaintained_ snapshot

It is true that I haven't released many updates lately. This is mostly 
because I'm busy with other work, and because the current version works 
perfectly for me.


Let us call it this way: After you fixed the worse bugs in YOUR build system
that caused cdrecord to dump core you stopped working on it.


I will release a newer version once I either have some spare time, or once 
I find a serious problem in the current version.

You name it! You are a person who did make useless changes on the build system
for unknown reasons and your only motivation was to have a private copy of 
cdrecord running for your A03. This way we never will get good and powerfull
free software.


 that uses an add on which
 most likely has been created by reverse engineering cdrecord-ProDVD.

For the record, it hasn't been. I believe proprietary software is evil, 
therefore I don't download it.

So you don't use CVS which us proprietary software because it uses a 
non-standard archive format? 

So you use star rather than GNU tar because GNU tar ignores standard
and writes in a proprietary data format?

Stay reasonable


 Give me a better explanagtion why the hell the patch this beast is
 related on appeard about a week after I announced my first test binary
 and about two weeks after I put the binary on the server.

Coincidence. I happened to buy a DVD writer than, and wanted it to work. 
If you don't believe me, I can scan the invoice.

This does not seem to be relates to my 

Re: cdrecord-ProDVD (fwd)

2002-06-12 Thread Joerg Schilling


From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wed Jun 12 11:19:36 2002

And for the record joerg, if you had a paypal donate button for the open 
source cdrecord, I would donate for that too.

If somebofy helps me to set up an account why not.

The main difference between me and the RH Germany guy seems to be that
I am really busy with writing Free Software and don't have the time
to look for things like paypal.


I won't support closed-source binaries though.

If you like to protect  leading edge SW you sometimes need.
Look what is going on with ghostview


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Re: cdrecord-ProDVD

2002-06-12 Thread Dan Hollis

On Wed, 12 Jun 2002, Joerg Schilling wrote:
 What is your problem with cdrecord-ProDVD?

It's closed source binary-only with a license key and timebomb (June 17).

Is it any wonder people might prefer the open source one?

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Re: cdrecord-ProDVD (fwd)

2002-06-12 Thread Bernhard Rosenkraenzer

On Wed, 12 Jun 2002, Joerg Schilling wrote:

 Interesting to see that you are not completely unwilling to communicate

I'm not - I just end up being unresponsive occasionally because I'm 
overworked (and receiving around 1500 mails a day doesn't help).

 For this reason I am the original Author of cdrecord and _do_ have the right to 
 publish it with any Licence I like.

I'm not a lawyer, so I'm not going to debate it, though I think it's 
questionable because you can assume the patches you applied were 
implicitly placed under the GPL.
Even if it happens to be legal, it is ethically wrong IMO; you have abused 
the contributors' trust and used their work in ways they (or at least some 
of them) don't agree with.
This is precisely the reason why I've forked it. I don't want to see any 
of my code used in proprietary software, and I'm sure many others feel the 
same way.

 For the parts that are not critical code
 because the know how is widely spread, I choosed the GPL and for the parts where
 I am on the leading edge (cdrecord_ProDVD was the 3rd DVD-recording application
 world wide in February 1998) I keep the sources secret.

If you don't use other people's code, that's your choice of course.
It's my choice to dislike this sort of thing enough to do something about 
it.

 Cdrecord-ProDVD is a legal DVDD writing program what is your problem?

1. I believed it's illegal because of a GPL violation (and I'm still
   not 100% convinced it isn't one)
2. Even if it is legal, it's proprietary software, and therefore
   shouldn't be used.


 You can claim it's not really independant because it doesn't contain all 
 that many changes to the cdrtools code, and you'd be somewhat right - 
 I just added DVD support and fixed up [IMO -- see below] the build 
 system.
 
 You did not fix it but you destroy the build system. You replaced a completely
 automated build system that allows you to compile on far more than 30 different OS
 by something worse. Why?

Because I (and many others) like it better. Better/worse are rather 
subjective terms.

My main arguments for preferring using the GNU build tools are:
- It's the standard way of doing things.
  Therefore, other people can read it and immediately know
  what it means without having to read up on loads of different
  makefiles.
- It makes life easier for packagers because it supports
  stuff like make install DESTDIR=/foo
- It makes life easier for people trying to compile from source.
  ./configure --help |less ; ./configure --whatever
  is much easier than having to read a number of makefiles in
  different directories and editing them by hand, especially for
  non-programmers.
- It automatically adapts to new OSes and OS versions rather than
  hardcoding Linux does things that way (assumptions which may not
  even be true on all Linux systems) the way your build system does
  in a few places.

I'm sure you have a couple of good reasons to prefer your system as well.
Let's just agree to disagree on this one, it's really another vi vs. 
emacs, Linux vs. GNU/Linux or Open Source vs. Free
Software flamewar topics.


 If it ever becomes necessary, it can become a truly independant fork, 
 though. I just hope it won't get that far.
 
 ???

Just in case all of cdrecord gets under an unacceptable license at some 
point. I hope it doesn't happen, but if it does, I'm prepared to run a 
truly independant fork without any code merges.

 It is true that I haven't released many updates lately. This is mostly 
 because I'm busy with other work, and because the current version works 
 perfectly for me.
 
 Let us call it this way: After you fixed the worse bugs in YOUR build system
 that caused cdrecord to dump core you stopped working on it.

This is plain not true. I just decided to do some other things first when 
I had it in a working state.
I already work about 15 hours/day, 7 days/week, so I admittedly can't do 
as much as I'd like to.

 I will release a newer version once I either have some spare time, or once 
 I find a serious problem in the current version.
 
 You name it! You are a person who did make useless changes on the build system
 for unknown reasons

s/useless/useful/, reasons see above.

 and your only motivation was to have a private copy of 
 cdrecord running for your A03.

Wrong. If that had been my motivation, I would have built a copy for 
myself without putting it on the net.
Yes, I wanted to have my A03 running without using proprietary software.
Then I put it on the net to help people in similar situations, and to 
encourage people with different hardware to extend it so it works with 
that.

 This way we never will get good and powerfull free software.

This is wrong.
Remember how Linux started out?
Linus wanted a unixlike OS that worked on his 386. He put it on the net, 
and the rest is history.

You can get good and powerful free software by putting stuff in works for 
me state on the net.
You can NOT get good and powerful free software by 

Re: cdrecord-ProDVD

2002-06-12 Thread Joerg Schilling


From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wed Jun 12 20:26:55 2002

On Wed, 12 Jun 2002, Joerg Schilling wrote:
 What is your problem with cdrecord-ProDVD?

It's closed source binary-only with a license key and timebomb (June 17).

It makes sense to check assumptions before posting
it is limited to Jan 15 2003

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Re: cdrecord-ProDVD (fwd)

2002-06-12 Thread Dan Hollis

On Wed, 12 Jun 2002, Joerg Schilling wrote:
  Look what is going on with ghostview
 What's going on? (i dont use ghostview)
 If you don't know this story, why then did you join this discussion?

Because you brought up ghostview at the very end of the discussion. You're 
asking me why I joined the beginning of a discussion based on an arbitrary 
condition you imposed at the very ending of the discussion?

Maybe there's a communication gap because english isn't your primary 
language. Your arguments are not making any sense to me...

 Ghostview is closed source and old versions are distributed under something
 smilar to GPL.

So it's justification to keep cdrecord-prodvd closed source?

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Re: cdrecord-ProDVD (fwd)

2002-06-12 Thread Joerg Schilling


From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wed Jun 12 21:01:01 2002

On Wed, 12 Jun 2002, Joerg Schilling wrote:
 I will release a newer version once I either have some spare time, or once 
 I find a serious problem in the current version.
 You name it! You are a person who did make useless changes on the build system
 for unknown reasons and your only motivation was to have a private copy of 
 cdrecord running for your A03. This way we never will get good and powerfull
 free software.

He released his source code to the public. It doesn't have any license 
keys, it doesn't have any timebombs (June 17).

Again: he did not contribute a single line of own code and the key expires
on Jan 12th 2003 - just check before posting!

You stated one reason to keep cdrecord-prodvd secret is to prevent 
companies to steal the code and put in some closed source application. But 
dvdtools is now there, open source, and anyone can see the magic code to 
write DVDs.

It does only implement about 1/4th od DVD related code compared to what's in
cdrecord-ProDVD..

For parts of it, there is no similar code in any other known software.
You see, it protects.


Is there really any reason to keep cdrecord-prodvd closed source anymore? 
The genie is out of the bottle so to speak.

See above...

 Cdrtools come with a standard build system!

But it doesn't write DVDs...

Cdrecord-ProDVD does write DVDs with more different drives than the so called 
free one and runs on more different OS because it does not use a broken 
autoconfiguration.


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Re: cdrecord-ProDVD (fwd)

2002-06-12 Thread Dan Hollis

On Wed, 12 Jun 2002, Joerg Schilling wrote:
 He released his source code to the public. It doesn't have any license 
 keys, it doesn't have any timebombs (June 17).
 Again: he did not contribute a single line of own code and the key expires
 on Jan 12th 2003 - just check before posting!

ftp://ftp.fokus.gmd.de/pub/unix/cdrecord/ProDVD/README

   As I am not sure if people will follow my licensing rules, so these
keys are time limited and will expire on June 17th.
 ^

  Cdrtools come with a standard build system!
 But it doesn't write DVDs...
 Cdrecord-ProDVD does write DVDs with more different drives than the so called 
 free one and runs on more different OS because it does not use a broken 
 autoconfiguration.

But cdrecord-prodvd is not open source, so end users can't port it even if 
they want to. They're completely at the mercy of the single author who 
decides which platforms it gets binary-only release, and which not.

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Re: cdrecord-ProDVD (fwd)

2002-06-12 Thread Joerg Schilling

From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wed Jun 12 21:56:49 2002

 Interesting to see that you are not completely unwilling to communicate

I'm not - I just end up being unresponsive occasionally because I'm 
overworked (and receiving around 1500 mails a day doesn't help).

Well I did expect that you start such a commnication because it sweems that 
you like to know something about the cdrecord-ProDVD status.
You definitely did not...


 For this reason I am the original Author of cdrecord and _do_ have the right to 
 publish it with any Licence I like.

I'm not a lawyer, so I'm not going to debate it, though I think it's 
questionable because you can assume the patches you applied were 
implicitly placed under the GPL.

So you definitely make false assumptions! The German/European 
Copyright/Authorship righs law only protects a work and no code fragments.
Code fragments are not worth to be protected from our law.


Even if it happens to be legal, it is ethically wrong IMO; you have abused 
the contributors' trust and used their work in ways they (or at least some 
of them) don't agree with.

You missinterpret what happens. The reallity is:

All contributed code is freely available under GPL.

What I am doing is simply a second legal type of use. I am the original Author
and have the right to make a second publication under a different license.

The whole ethic background of the GPL (giving the user unlimited access and 
right to use the source) is retained this way.


This is precisely the reason why I've forked it. I don't want to see any 
of my code used in proprietary software, and I'm sure many others feel the 
same way.

1) It seems that you missinterpret the meaning of proprietary software

2) publishing under GPL definitely does not prevent your code from being
used by non GPLd software.


 Cdrecord-ProDVD is a legal DVDD writing program what is your problem?

1. I believed it's illegal because of a GPL violation (and I'm still
   not 100% convinced it isn't one)

It definitely does neither violate GPL nor the German/European Copyrights

2. Even if it is legal, it's proprietary software, and therefore
   shouldn't be used.


Again, it seems that you use proprietary software like GNU tar and others.
So what is your problem?


 You did not fix it but you destroy the build system. You replaced a completely
 automated build system that allows you to compile on far more than 30 different OS
 by something worse. Why?

Because I (and many others) like it better. Better/worse are rather 
subjective terms.

And you seem not to understand that there are many important things that just 
work more simple and more smoothly than what FSF programs usually do.


My main arguments for preferring using the GNU build tools are:
- It's the standard way of doing things.
  Therefore, other people can read it and immediately know
  what it means without having to read up on loads of different
  makefiles.

Sorry your definition of the word standard seems to be broken the same way as 
it is when used by M$ people. Why do so many FSF followers behave the same
way as their putative worst enemy does?

A standard is something that has been aggreed on by an independant gremium.
This is definitely not true for M$ or FSF products.



- It makes life easier for packagers because it supports
  stuff like make install DESTDIR=/foo


YOu should READ documentation!

It is even simpler with my build system.
Your problem is that you once heavily struggled to understand how the 
non-standard GNU build system works and now obviously regret to learn that 
there are other (better) solution and that you need to read some documentaion 
the same way as it was needed for the GNU way.


- It makes life easier for people trying to compile from source.
  ./configure --help |less ; ./configure --whatever
  is much easier than having to read a number of makefiles in
  different directories and editing them by hand, especially for
  non-programmers.



- It automatically adapts to new OSes and OS versions rather than
  hardcoding Linux does things that way (assumptions which may not
  even be true on all Linux systems) the way your build system does
  in a few places.

Now you are catched! In reallity it is exactly the other way round:

-   Programs that use the GNU build system only compile on platforms the
mantainers of autoconf are aware of.

-   The Schily makefile system compiles even on unknown platforms
if they are similar enough to other known systems.

Of course, this property is only available if you use my 'smake' instead of the 
broken GNU make. This does work since January 2001 when I received my MacOS X 
box with the first official Darwin version which has been significaltly 
different in ID strings from all betas before.


I'm sure you have a couple of good reasons to prefer your system as well.
Let's just agree to disagree on this one, it's really another vi vs. 
emacs, Linux vs. GNU/Linux or Open 

Re: cdrecord-ProDVD (fwd)

2002-06-12 Thread Dan Hollis

On Thu, 13 Jun 2002, Joerg Schilling wrote:
  and your only motivation was to have a private copy of 
  cdrecord running for your A03.
 Wrong. If that had been my motivation, I would have built a copy for 
 myself without putting it on the net.
 Yes, I wanted to have my A03 running without using proprietary software.
 Then I put it on the net to help people in similar situations, and to 
 encourage people with different hardware to extend it so it works with 
 that.
 ??? Why then didn't you contribute to improve the code?

So if people submit patches to add dvd writing support to cdrecord, you 
will accept them (even if it means opensource cdrecord will compete with 
closed source cdrecord-prodvd)?

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Re: cdrecord-ProDVD (fwd)

2002-06-12 Thread Joerg Schilling

From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu Jun 13 01:24:15 2002
 ??? Why then didn't you contribute to improve the code?

So if people submit patches to add dvd writing support to cdrecord, you 
will accept them (even if it means opensource cdrecord will compete with 
closed source cdrecord-prodvd)?

Why do you try to reverse the meaning of my statements?

Is this the way discussions usually are held in the english language?

This was obviously related to the fact that until now not a single line of code 
has been added to improve dvdrtools by Mr. Rosenkraenzer.


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Re: cdrecord-ProDVD

2002-06-11 Thread Joerg Schilling

From: Dan Hollis [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Wed, 12 Jun 2002, Plamen Neykov wrote:
 I know it is a stupid question, but ... 
 Do I still have to use cdrecord-prodvd to record DVD-R's or it is possible just to 
use the normal version of cdrecord?

If you have pioneer DVDRW (A103,A104,103,104), you can use dvdrtools.
http://www.freesoftware.fsf.org/dvdrtools/
It's an independent code fork of cdrtools.

Please don't be unfair...

This is not an independant fork of cdrtools!

It is rather an _unmaintained_ snapshot that uses an add on which 
most likely has been created by reverse engineering cdrecord-ProDVD.
Give me a better explanagtion why the hell the patch this beast is
related on appeard about a week after I announced my first test binary
and about two weeks after I put the binary on the server. Keeping in mind that
is is a 100 line patch and that the first binary test version of cdrecord-ProDVD
did not come with -V disabled...

In addition note that the author removed the tested and working
make file system and replaced it by some piece of junk that works
on Linux only by accident - it does not work on other OS!
It seems that this person did try to write own autoconf code from what
he did understand. Unfortunately it seems that he did not understand much :-(

Look at the web page and judge yourself. The first thing that comes into
mind is the 'pay' button. 

Writing portable code like cdrecord and make it work with all drives on
the market is a hard job. The person who claims that he is the author
of this project is somebody who is falsely taking all the credit  but
does not put own effort in development.

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Re: CDRecord-ProDVD

2001-11-28 Thread Nicolae Mihalache

ProDVD version can be obtained only speaking with Joerg. You may want to
try my (free) version of dvd support from
http://www.abcpages.com/~mache/cdrecord-dvd.html.
For DVD+RW take a look at http://fy.chalmers.se/~appro/linux/DVD+RW/

mache
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 I am looking at getting a Pioneer DVD-R A03 to supplement our CD-R
 drive. It will be used on a Linux storage, serving other computers. I
 have had very good success with cdrecord/mkiosfs on a Linux system and a
 Yamaha SCSI cd-r drive.

 I can't find any information about why I should get CDRecord-ProDVD and
 why is it different from the normal CDRecord program.

 Any opinions on the new HP dvd100i?






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Re: cdrecord prodvd for hpux

2001-11-09 Thread david jentz


can we send you a disk with hpux10.20 to build from?

-david jentz

From: Joerg Schilling [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: cdrecord prodvd for hpux
Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2001 22:48:08 +0100 (MET)

 From: david jentz [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 i would like to get cdrecord pro-dvd for hpux 10.26, but i have not found 
it
 built for this kernel. I have seen some posts saying it costs $100 usd to
 get the DVD enabled version - or at least Joerg Schilling's version.

10.x is very old. I can only make a version for 11.x

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Re: Cdrecord--ProDVD test versions

2001-10-22 Thread mhicks

Dear, Mr schilling

This is about the 4th time that i've asked for a method to get 
cdrecord-DVDPRO.

And you have yet to provide me with a real quote and payment method.

You did reply but as i've said your mail server rejects all of my mail 
from work as well as from yahoo...

so please as another person sugested on the list take a few minuets of 
your time and update your web site with real information about 
cdrecord-dvdpro... I've been trying for more then 2 mths to be able to 
burn DVD's in linux... and do not mind paying for it... 

Mitchell Hicks
 Original Message 

On 10/19/01, 1:33:17 AM, Joerg Schilling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote 
regarding Re: Cdrecord--ProDVD test versions:


 From: Nicolae Mihalache [EMAIL PROTECTED]


 After a lot of search and frustation about writing DVD
 on Linux, I decided to write my own free driver for cdrecord.

 This reads really funny!

 Cdrecord-ProDVD is available since February 1998 and you never
 asked for it.

 In general I can say that the was little or no interest at all
 for DVD writing in the last 3 and a half year. This changed
 a bit during the last three weeks.

 I started with DVD recording when there was no RW at all, a media
 did cost 60 Euro and the writer 15000 Euro. You did buy a writer?
 Why do dou have problems with media cost? It looks like
 you will never really use your writer.

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Re: Cdrecord--ProDVD test versions

2001-10-21 Thread Alexander Skwar

So sprach »Joerg Schilling« am 2001-10-19 um 12:41:11 +0200 :
 A typical Linux user buys a SuSE distribution more than once a year.
 A typical Solaris user loads the CD binaries over the internet.
 You cannot load the SuSE CD's over the internet.

Well, a typical Linux user uses Mandrake and loads Mandrake over the
internet.  So he doesn't have to buy anything at all.

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RE: Cdrecord--ProDVD test versions

2001-10-19 Thread Mattias . Blomqvist

Why not 4.7 GB in real mode?

/Mattias

 -Original Message-
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 Sent: 19. October 2001 0:41
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 Subject: Cdrecord--ProDVD test versions
 
 
 I just put test versions of cdrecord-ProDVD on
 
 ftp://ftp.fokus.gmd.de/pub/unix/cdrecord/ProDVD/
 
 These binaries support DVD-R and DVD-RW.
 
 You may either write a full (4.7 GB) Media in -dummy mode or
 up to 1 GB in real mode.
 
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Re: Cdrecord--ProDVD test versions

2001-10-19 Thread Nicolae Mihalache

Hello!

After a lot of search and frustation about writing DVD
on Linux, I decided to write my own free driver for cdrecord.
The big problem is documentation that I don't have and I can only
base my driver on last MMC3 draft from t10.org.
The driver should be almost ready, but I did not test it in real mode
because I just bought my drive and I have no DVD-RW yet. Anyway
maybe today I will purchase a DVD-RW and do some more tests and 
monday I will release the patch. You can help me to test it 
more, maybe with other drives because I only have Pioneer A03 and
Suse Linux 7.1 and eventualy Soalaris 2.6.

mache


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 Why not 4.7 GB in real mode?



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Re: Cdrecord--ProDVD test versions

2001-10-19 Thread Nicolae Mihalache

Joerg Schilling wrote:
 
 I just put test versions of cdrecord-ProDVD on
 
 ftp://ftp.fokus.gmd.de/pub/unix/cdrecord/ProDVD/
 
 These binaries support DVD-R and DVD-RW.
 
 You may either write a full (4.7 GB) Media in -dummy mode or
 up to 1 GB in real mode.
 
I wonder why cdrecord-prodvd pretends that use TAO mode when
the MMC documentation states that the only valid modes for DVD
are PACKET and SAO. MMC3 Draft, revision 10e, page 299: 
 Write Type of Track-at-once and Raw are invalid when DVD-R 
  media is present.

mache


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Re: Cdrecord--ProDVD test versions

2001-10-19 Thread Joerg Schilling

From: Nicolae Mihalache [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Joerg Schilling wrote:
 
 I just put test versions of cdrecord-ProDVD on
 
 ftp://ftp.fokus.gmd.de/pub/unix/cdrecord/ProDVD/
 
 These binaries support DVD-R and DVD-RW.
 
 You may either write a full (4.7 GB) Media in -dummy mode or
 up to 1 GB in real mode.
 
I wonder why cdrecord-prodvd pretends that use TAO mode when
the MMC documentation states that the only valid modes for DVD
are PACKET and SAO. MMC3 Draft, revision 10e, page 299: 
 Write Type of Track-at-once and Raw are invalid when DVD-R 
  media is present.

Where does cdrecord pretend to use TAO?

Jörg

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Re: Cdrecord--ProDVD test versions

2001-10-19 Thread Warly

Nicolae Mihalache [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Hello!
 
 After a lot of search and frustation about writing DVD
 on Linux, I decided to write my own free driver for cdrecord.
 The big problem is documentation that I don't have and I can only
 base my driver on last MMC3 draft from t10.org.
 The driver should be almost ready, but I did not test it in real mode
 because I just bought my drive and I have no DVD-RW yet. Anyway
 maybe today I will purchase a DVD-RW and do some more tests and 
 monday I will release the patch. You can help me to test it 
 more, maybe with other drives because I only have Pioneer A03 and
 Suse Linux 7.1 and eventualy Soalaris 2.6.

I have also a Pionner A03 and DVD-RW, I can test your patch.

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Re: Cdrecord--ProDVD test versions

2001-10-19 Thread Joerg Schilling

From: Nicolae Mihalache [EMAIL PROTECTED]


After a lot of search and frustation about writing DVD
on Linux, I decided to write my own free driver for cdrecord.

This reads really funny!

Cdrecord-ProDVD is available since February 1998 and you never
asked for it.

In general I can say that the was little or no interest at all
for DVD writing in the last 3 and a half year. This changed 
a bit during the last three weeks.

I started with DVD recording when there was no RW at all, a media
did cost 60 Euro and the writer 15000 Euro. You did buy a writer?
Why do dou have problems with media cost? It looks like
you will never really use your writer.

Jörg

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Re: Cdrecord--ProDVD test versions

2001-10-19 Thread Norbert Preining

On Fre, 19 Okt 2001, Joerg Schilling wrote:
 Cdrecord-ProDVD is available since February 1998 and you never
 asked for it.
 
 In general I can say that the was little or no interest at all
 for DVD writing in the last 3 and a half year. This changed 
 a bit during the last three weeks.

Well in the last months there has been quite often questions for
cdrecord-ProDVD and no answer from your side, no information on
any websites, no explanation on licence issues, nothing. 

Best wishes

Norbert

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Re: Cdrecord--ProDVD test versions

2001-10-19 Thread Warly

Joerg Schilling [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

From: Nicolae Mihalache [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 
After a lot of search and frustation about writing DVD
on Linux, I decided to write my own free driver for cdrecord.
 
 This reads really funny!
 
 Cdrecord-ProDVD is available since February 1998 and you never
 asked for it.

Cdrecord-ProDVD is not free.

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Re: Cdrecord--ProDVD test versions

2001-10-19 Thread Joerg Schilling

From: Norbert Preining [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Fre, 19 Okt 2001, Joerg Schilling wrote:
 Cdrecord-ProDVD is available since February 1998 and you never
 asked for it.
 
 In general I can say that the was little or no interest at all
 for DVD writing in the last 3 and a half year. This changed 
 a bit during the last three weeks.

Well in the last months there has been quite often questions for
cdrecord-ProDVD and no answer from your side, no information on
any websites, no explanation on licence issues, nothing. 

Of course this is wrong. Except for the time of my vacation, 
I answered all questions regarding DVD writing.

Jörg

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Re: Cdrecord--ProDVD test versions

2001-10-19 Thread Nicolae Mihalache

Joerg Schilling wrote:
 
 From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fri Oct 19 11:07:31 2001
 
  From: Nicolae Mihalache [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
  After a lot of search and frustation about writing DVD
  on Linux, I decided to write my own free driver for cdrecord.
 
  This reads really funny!
 
  Cdrecord-ProDVD is available since February 1998 and you never
  asked for it.
 
 Hmmm. Please show me a single web page where prodvd is mentioned.
 
 Google gives 6650 results for cdrecord DVD

I gives so many results because cdrecord(free version) states that
it writes DVD even if it does not. For example when writing a CD
it says Starting to write CD/DVD at speed And this is the worst
thing, that only after few hours of hard search I realise that there
are two versions of cdrecord.

 Did you ever tried to search?
 
 The only way you could find about it was from some mails and
 if you had a dvd-writer, from output of cdrecord.
 I did not wanted to buy a DVD writer until I knew that it will
 work on Linux. So I could not run cdrecord to tell me that I
 need to contact you to know more about dvdpro.
 
 Well I usually would look into the web. If you would have looked
 for DVD writing you would have had pointers to cdrecord-ProDVD.
 
 Of course I have problems with the price. I don't use the dvd for
 myself but for the company I work for. We could buy the drive for
 about 550EURO and media for about 25(RW) and 15(R) EURO. I'm sure
 that the prices will go down even more now with the introduction of
 DVD+RW media and drives. So in not so long time the DVD writing will
 be something possible for a home user. I these conditions not having
 a free program for writing dvds on a free OS is realy a bad thing.
 This is why I decided that my company should not buy the prodvd from
 you but to write a driver.
 
 A typical Linux user pays more for his Linux releases than a typical
 Solaris x86 user.
 

It depends what is a typical Linux user in your conception. I'm from 
Romania, over there very few people(not companies) buys software. 
But if you buy Solaris, you usualy buy it toghether with the hardware,
and I realy don't know how much do you pay for the software and how much
for the hardware. 

mache


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Re: Cdrecord--ProDVD test versions

2001-10-19 Thread Nicolae Mihalache

Joerg Schilling wrote:
 
 From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fri Oct 19 11:07:31 2001
 
 This is why I decided that my company should not buy the prodvd from
 you but to write a driver.
 
 So you will cause you company much more costs by going this way.
 
Not so much because I do it on my own time. I'm just using their
hardware.

mache


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Re: Cdrecord--ProDVD test versions

2001-10-19 Thread Nicolae Mihalache

Joerg Schilling wrote:
 
 From: Warly [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 From: Nicolae Mihalache [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 
 After a lot of search and frustation about writing DVD
 on Linux, I decided to write my own free driver for cdrecord.
 
  This reads really funny!
 
  Cdrecord-ProDVD is available since February 1998 and you never
  asked for it.
 
 Cdrecord-ProDVD is not free.
 
 As you see from other postsings today, DVD writing is currently only used
 for commercial purposes. Why shouldn't I try to get some money for my
 hard work? Or the other way round: wy should I give things away for
 free that usually are not free?
 
I think you should really take your money from Pioneer the same way the 
company that produces the software that is bundled toghether with the
drive.
Unfurtunately this is very hard, if not impossible :(
Anyway, the way I see these things is very simple: the number of
programs
that force an user to boot windows, should go down to 0.

mache


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Re: Cdrecord--ProDVD test versions

2001-10-19 Thread Joerg Schilling

From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fri Oct 19 12:00:03 2001

  Cdrecord-ProDVD is available since February 1998 and you never
  asked for it.
 
 Hmmm. Please show me a single web page where prodvd is mentioned.
 
 Google gives 6650 results for cdrecord DVD

I gives so many results because cdrecord(free version) states that
it writes DVD even if it does not. For example when writing a CD
it says Starting to write CD/DVD at speed And this is the worst
thing, that only after few hours of hard search I realise that there
are two versions of cdrecord.

So you did know that there is DVD support but you never asked to get
further information.

 A typical Linux user pays more for his Linux releases than a typical
 Solaris x86 user.
 

It depends what is a typical Linux user in your conception. I'm from 
Romania, over there very few people(not companies) buys software. 
But if you buy Solaris, you usualy buy it toghether with the hardware,
and I realy don't know how much do you pay for the software and how much
for the hardware. 

A typical Linux user buys a SuSE distribution more than once a year.
A typical Solaris user loads the CD binaries over the internet.
You cannot load the SuSE CD's over the internet.


Jörg

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