[Elecraft] [KRC2] No KRC2 found error

2009-12-05 Thread Dave New, N8SBE
I've looked through the archives, and have not found a similar situation
to mine, so here goes:

1) I can re-download v1.5 firmware to the KRC2 without a hitch.

2) Every time I try to use the config utility, it first tells me 'v1.5'
firmware is loaded, then it tells me that 'No KRC2 found', with the
usual helpful information on setting baud rate, etc.

3) I've tried this will all the following connection hardware:

   a) Radio Shack long white USB-serial cable (this one has worked
with everything else I need for serial communication so far, including
K3 serial, LP-Bridge, etc. etc.) on a Windows XP Home laptop.
   b) Dynex DX-UBDB9 USB-serial cable (this uses the Prolific chip set,
and doesn't work, for instance, with my Icom-7000 memory programming
software, hence the reason I bought the Radio Shack cable on a
recommendation from the Icom software author) on a Windows XP Home
laptop.
   c) A real hardware serial port on a Windows XP Pro laptop.

I've tried setting 4800 bps, 8 bits, no parity, 1 stop, no handshaking
in the COM port property panel under the device manager, as well as
disabling the UART TX/RX FIFO.

Nothing seems to help.  I've spent several hours tinkering with this,
and have not been able to figure out why the downloader can talk to the
KRC2, and the config utility can report the firmware version, but then
balks at any further communication (attempted configuration downloads
fail, as well).

I've also tried pulling all the RS-232-related jumpers except W9 and W10
(RxD and TxD) but it didn't seem to make any difference.  Of course, the
D/L switch is set in the proper position.

Any ideas?  I'm at wit's end, and any help would be appreciated.

73,

-- Dave, N8SBE

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Re: [Elecraft] KRC2 Config Software Problem

2010-11-23 Thread Dave New, N8SBE
Yep.  I have the same problem, or at least had it, since I haven't tried
it for quite a while.  I've tried all sorts of things including a
(gasp!) real serial port, and nothing worked.

The most peculiar thing is that I have no problem re-flashing the KRC2,
but I can't change the configuration with the configurator program.  I
need to do this so I can drive a 3 of 8 encoded remote antenna switch.

I even took hi-res shots of both sides of the completed PCB, and emailed
them to Elecraft support (at their request), but aside from being told
they were very good shots, I never heard back.

I'm finally about to complete my antenna system, and it would be nice to
be able to use the KRC2 for what I bought and built it for.

73,

-- Dave, N8SBE

  Original Message 
 Subject: [Elecraft] KRC2 Config Software Problem
 From: K3RWN rwnewbo...@comcast.net
 Date: Tue, November 23, 2010 8:02 pm
 To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net


 Has anyone had an issue with trying to get the PC to send program data to
 the KRC2 Config Utility?



 I have tried everything, USB adapters (several), real com ports, different
 PCs and Laptops.



 I am stuck



 Rich

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[Elecraft] WTB: XV432 Transverter (receive-only OK)

2010-01-21 Thread Dave New, N8SBE
Folks,

I'm in great need of a 432 MHz transverter (actually if the transmitter
doesn't work, that's OK).

I'm in the SE Mich area, and can meet someone to pick it up.

This is work-related, and I need it for a road trip that is currently
(last-minute) scheduled for this coming Monday, Jan 25, 2010 into Canada
and back.

I plan to use it with an RFSpace SDR to listen to 433.92 MHz for signals
while on the road.  The RFSpace box comes with a spectrum waterfall
display and can record and play back any signals I hear across a wide
spectrum around the nominal center frequency.  It normally only covers
up to 30 MHz, but with a suitable downconverter front end, can be made
to work on UHF.

If you don't want to sell it, if I could borrow/rent it from you, that
would be even better.

Please respond to the list or direct to my email ASAP.  I'll be checking
it from work today and tomorrow.

73,

-- Dave, N8SBE

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Re: [Elecraft] WTB: XV432 Transverter (receive-only OK)

2010-02-09 Thread Dave New, N8SBE
Thought I'd drop a line to let folks know I found a local ham with a
receive-only downconverter (Microwave Modules 432/28) for USD$30 (nice
find).

Works beautifully for the purpose at hand.

Thanks to those that responded with ideas/offers.  I appreciate the
effort.

73,

-- Dave, N8SBE, K3 ser #3104

  Original Message 
 Subject: [Elecraft] WTB: XV432 Transverter (receive-only OK)
 From: Dave New, N8SBE n8...@arrl.net
 Date: Thu, January 21, 2010 6:43 am
 To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net
 
 
 Folks,
 
 I'm in great need of a 432 MHz transverter (actually if the transmitter
 doesn't work, that's OK).
 
 I'm in the SE Mich area, and can meet someone to pick it up.
 
 This is work-related, and I need it for a road trip that is currently
 (last-minute) scheduled for this coming Monday, Jan 25, 2010 into Canada
 and back.
 
 I plan to use it with an RFSpace SDR to listen to 433.92 MHz for signals
 while on the road.  The RFSpace box comes with a spectrum waterfall
 display and can record and play back any signals I hear across a wide
 spectrum around the nominal center frequency.  It normally only covers
 up to 30 MHz, but with a suitable downconverter front end, can be made
 to work on UHF.
 
 If you don't want to sell it, if I could borrow/rent it from you, that
 would be even better.
 
 Please respond to the list or direct to my email ASAP.  I'll be checking
 it from work today and tomorrow.
 
 73,
 
 -- Dave, N8SBE
 
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Re: [Elecraft] Need to select a dummy load for K3 TX calibr ation...(advice?)

2010-03-02 Thread Dave New, N8SBE
I don't like the idea of a can of oil sitting in the house, -- in
particular, if you don't know what kind of oil might be lurking in that
old Cantenna.  Note that prior to the A suffix models, Heath
recommended transformer oil, and had no warnings against using oils that
contained PCBs.  After PCBs were outlawed in the US, Heath changed their
recommendation to mineral oil, and included a warning against the use of
transformer oil of unknown composition.

So, if you come across a vintage Cantenna at a ham fest, what do you
think might be in it?  If it's the old style with the little 'house' on
top, I'd steer clear of it.  The Cantenna should be disposed of, in
accordance with federal law, and under no circumstances should be opened
by untrained and unprotected personnel.  Considering that most of these
Cantennas leak around the screws on the lid, I'd be very leery of any of
the 'first edition' Cantennas.  The new ones, with the spiffy Red/Black
logos, should be OK, but if you have any doubt, pass it by.

73,

-- Dave, N8SBE

  Original Message 
 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Need to select a dummy load for K3 TX
 calibration...(advice?)
 From: Ken Nicely k...@nicelyweb.com
 Date: Tue, February 23, 2010 11:11 pm
 To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net


 I have the MFJ 264
 http://www.mfjenterprises.com/Product.php?productid=MFJ-264

 I have been using this for about 9 months now without a problem.  I use it
 to tune the amp putting about 500 or 600 watts into it for short periods of
 time with no problems.   If you want a nice one that you wont outgrow for a
 while I would recommend it.  I don't like the idea of a can of oil sitting
 in the house, and why have that heavy paint can full of oil sitting around
 when you can put this little air cooled unit on the shelf.  All for about
 $75.00.

 Of course this is overkill for what you need now, but you might consider it
 if you ever plan on an amp in the future.

 Ken KE3C
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Re: [Elecraft] OT: Transformer oil in DL's

2010-03-02 Thread Dave New, N8SBE
That's really the crux of the issue.

I didn't intend to make it sound like a scare tactic.

But, if you have something you suspect may contain PCBs, your life gets
more complicated.

I feel sorry for the folks that get stuck with suspect materials,
because it will be a royal pain to get rid of it legally.

That's all.

Sorry if I ruffled any feathers.

73,

-- Dave, N8SBE

  Original Message 
 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] OT: Transformer oil in DL's
 From: David Christ radio...@mchsi.com
 Date: Tue, March 02, 2010 5:20 pm
 To: n...@cds1.net, Ken Kopp k...@rfwave.net
 Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net


 Sort of my question.  In about 1969 when I was a lab tech for a small
 college I was given 5 gal out of a 55 gal barrel of transformer oil
 they had for X-ray machine transformers.  I still have that  pail,
 tightly capped, sequestered in a junk but dry trailer away from my
 buildings.  Haven't gotten it to haz mat disposal yet.  I often
 wished there was an easy test for PCBs.  If it were PCB free it would
 be nice to have.

 David K0LUM


 At 1:49 PM -0800 3/2/10, Alan Bloom wrote:
 When was the Heath Cantenna introduced?  I know it was already old news
 when I got started in 1968.  I found a reference to it in an old 73
 article in the January 1963 issue:
 
 The Heath Cantenna - 73 gets out the can opener  W3UZN  62
 
 Had PCBs already been discontinued by then?
 
 
 On Tue, 2010-03-02 at 19:44 +, Ken Kopp wrote:
   As a (retired) career power company employee I can say with
   reasonable certainty that the transformer oil that was available
   to --most-- scrounging hams since the introduction of the Cantenna
   was -unlikely- to contain PCB's.
 
   At least in the circumstances familiar to me, PCB-containing
   transformer oil was mostly long gone by the time the Cantenna
   was introduced.  It was certainly gone as new out of the barrel,
   but did remain in transformers already in place, but few if any
hams received their oil from a transformer. (:-)
 

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Re: [Elecraft] Need to select a dummy load for K3 TX calibr ation...(advice?)

2010-03-02 Thread Dave New, N8SBE
Jim,

Don't know what the disposal situation is in your neck of the woods, but
where I live in SE Mich, no local hazardous disposal site will handle
the material.  I asked.

I'd have to hire an 'environmental' company to come in and remove the
stuff, and then they have certain approved means of breaking down the
chemical composition to dispose of it.  If you go to the EPA site on
PCBs, they have links to the companies that are approved to handle PCB
disposal.

That's why I'd steer clear of older Cantennas.  It's not worth the
hassle to get one tested and then to dispose of it, if need be.  It
would clearly end up costing far more than the bargain price you paid
for it in the flea market.

Note that this has nothing to do with whether you think the stuff is
dangerous or not.  Our government has stepped in and decided how PCBs
are to be handled.

73,

-- Dave, N8SBE

  Original Message 
 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Need to select a dummy load for K3 TX
 calibration...(advice?)
 From: Jim Wiley jwi...@alaska.net
 Date: Tue, March 02, 2010 2:48 pm
 To:
 Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net


 Disposing of the entire Cantenna would be an over-reaction.  The
 Cantenna can be opened safely, any oil within disposed of, the component
 parts rinsed in an approved solvent, and reassembled using mineral oil,
 or NON-PCB transformer oil as the coolant.   Use rubber gloves, dispose
 of the existing coolant in an approved manner.  Bottle the waste oil and
 used solvent it,and take it to a hazardous waste disposal site.  Most
 city dumps will have such a facility.Non-PCB based transformer oils
 are  often available at electrical supply houses or perhaps you can find
 a friend at the local power company that will give you a fill-up for
 the asking.


 The hazard to you and the environment is minimal with such a
 procedure.   PCB based transformer oils, Askarel is the trade name for
 one such oil, are mildly toxic and must be handled properly, but you
 won't die or even get sick from a brief exposure.  If you get any on
 your skin, which is unlikely if you use rubber or latex gloves, simply
 wash with solvent first then copious quantities of soap and water.  An
 approved solvent would be Chevron 325 Thinner, also sometimes known as
 Stoddart solvent,  or equivalent.


 If transformer oils were all that toxic, hundreds or even thousands of
 power company employees and communications techs would have tipped over
 by now- and that hasn't happened.  PCBs were once commonly used  in high
 voltage transformers, high voltage caps, and similar items.   I am not
 attempting to say such materials have no hazards,  it's just that such
 hazards are often  hyped to  levels  that  are not  commensurate with
 the real risk.


 Back to your regularly scheduled reflector now.


 - Jim, KL7CC


 Dave New, N8SBE wrote:
  I don't like the idea of a can of oil sitting in the house, -- in
  particular, if you don't know what kind of oil might be lurking in that
  old Cantenna.  Note that prior to the A suffix models, Heath
  recommended transformer oil, and had no warnings against using oils that
  contained PCBs.  After PCBs were outlawed in the US, Heath changed their
  recommendation to mineral oil, and included a warning against the use of
  transformer oil of unknown composition.
 
  So, if you come across a vintage Cantenna at a ham fest, what do you
  think might be in it?  If it's the old style with the little 'house' on
  top, I'd steer clear of it.  The Cantenna should be disposed of, in
  accordance with federal law, and under no circumstances should be opened
  by untrained and unprotected personnel.  Considering that most of these
  Cantennas leak around the screws on the lid, I'd be very leery of any of
  the 'first edition' Cantennas.  The new ones, with the spiffy Red/Black
  logos, should be OK, but if you have any doubt, pass it by.
 
  73,
 
  -- Dave, N8SBE
 
 
   Original Message 
  Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Need to select a dummy load for K3 TX
  calibration...(advice?)
  From: Ken Nicely k...@nicelyweb.com
  Date: Tue, February 23, 2010 11:11 pm
  To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
 
 
  I have the MFJ 264
  http://www.mfjenterprises.com/Product.php?productid=MFJ-264
 
  I have been using this for about 9 months now without a problem.  I use it
  to tune the amp putting about 500 or 600 watts into it for short periods of
  time with no problems.   If you want a nice one that you wont outgrow for a
  while I would recommend it.  I don't like the idea of a can of oil sitting
  in the house, and why have that heavy paint can full of oil sitting around
  when you can put this little air cooled unit on the shelf.  All for about
  $75.00.
 
  Of course this is overkill for what you need now, but you might consider it
  if you ever plan on an amp in the future.
 
  Ken KE3C
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Re: [Elecraft] SEMI QSK TIMING Delay

2010-03-18 Thread Dave New, N8SBE
Funny, I found myself searching through the menus, looking for the VOX
Delay, and found that it is right on the front panel.

Push and hold the Speed/Mic knob.  In CW mode, it is the semi QSK delay.
 In SSB mode, it is the Vox delay.

73,

-- Dave, N8SBE

  Original Message 
 Subject: [Elecraft] SEMI QSK TIMING Delay
 From: Marty Green k2p...@gmail.com
 Date: Sat, March 13, 2010 12:47 pm
 To: Elecraft Reflector elecraft@mailman.qth.net
 
 
 How do you set the timing delay when in the SEMI QSK mode?
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Re: [Elecraft] OT: Ticks, Chiggers and Mosquitoes

2012-04-13 Thread Dave New, N8SBE
Unfortunately, 100% DEET has been unavailable in the 'lower 48' for
several years, now.  I covet the supply I have left from my days of
going fishing with the in-laws in upper Saskatchewan.

I guess when I run out, I can do a 'border run', as I live in SE
Michigan.  I hear it is still sold in Canada.

73,

-- Dave, N8SBE

  Original Message 
 Subject: [Elecraft]  OT: Ticks, Chiggers and Mosquitoes
 From: Edward R. Cole kl...@acsalaska.net
 Date: Fri, April 13, 2012 11:53 am
 To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net


 No problem with those critters in Alaska, we either treat them with
 -20 degrees wx or let the 23 varieties of mosquitos eat them
 (Ha!).  I have used 100% DEET insect spray to good advantage.  If one
 is going into the blackfly area then gloves and hightop boots with
 sleeves and pants closed with rubberbands and a head net is
 advisable.  Standard gear for working in the interior of AK in the bush.

 1980 I was working at 6200 feet on a mountain top near the Yukon
 Territory border and experience a black cloud of mosquitos moving
 up the mountain to reach us - so thick it blots out the sun!  We
 called back the helicopter to vacate the mountain as no work could be
 done (installing a repeater for Customs Service).  Treeline is about 1200feet.


 73, Ed - KL7UW, WD2XSH/45
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Re: [Elecraft] Retro Encabulator

2012-04-14 Thread Dave New, N8SBE
Try this one:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MXW0bx_Ooq4

It's the Chrysler Turbo Encabulator, and is followed with a Chrysler
technician giving training on how to diagnose one, including hooking a
DRB-II to the unit.  A real double-hoot.

I'm currently employed by Chrysler (in Wireless Body  Security), since
before the 2007 release date of this one, and never came across it.  You
can bet that this will get passed around amongst my colleagues come
Monday

Thanks,

-- Dave, N8SBE

  Original Message 
 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Retro Encabulator
 From: Wayne Burdick n...@elecraft.com
 Date: Fri, April 13, 2012 4:44 pm
 To: k6...@foothill.net
 Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net


 Fred Jensen wrote:

  Retro Encabulator

 This is about as OT as it gets, folks, but in case you missed it,
 here's the video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RXJKdh1KZ0w

 It's a hoot.

 Wayne


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[Elecraft] Screwdriver antennas in salt fog? [was: RE: High Sierra in qst]

2012-05-04 Thread Dave New, N8SBE
It seems that High Sierra is like a number of other screwdriver antenna
companies that live in California or Arizona, where they never encounter
winter weather with the salt fog spray that is common when driving in
northen climates in the winter time.

I rebuilt my 1800HS so many times I finally tired of it (the guide on
the mast finally fell off, because the tiny screws threads through the
thin mast all stripped out), and decided to get a HiQ, based on
recommendations from a friend (unfortunately, he lives in Tennessee and
so doesn't see the kind of winter weather I get in SE Michigan).

After one winter on a trailer hitch mount behind my Durango, the antenna
quit working (motor stalled), and I sent it back for repair.  Charlie at
HiQ called me and asked what did you DO to this antenna?  I said,
Nothing special, just used it on my vehicle over a Michigan winter. 
According to Charlie, the inside of the mast was solid salt rock
crystal.  To his credit, although I think at the time the antenna was
just out of warranty, he replaced the entire unit for free.

So, I used it through that next summer, but by November, I had traded my
Durango in for a Ram pickup, and wanted to change the mount to a
stake-mount on the pick up bed just behind the cab, for clearance for a
5th wheel tow, and also to try to keep it out of the salt fog.  I
actually never got around to mounting it until a few weeks ago, and had
left the antenna stored in the garage over the winter.  When I tried it
out, the motor was stuck again.  I've not had time to contact HiQ again,
and I understand that Charlie sold/transferred the ham radio portion of
the business to someone else, so he can concentrate on DoD contracts,
which I'm sure are much more lucrative than the ham trade.  I fear that
this time I'll end up having to pay to replace the antenna, and these
things are definitely not cheap.

So, long story short (too late):  Is there anyone on the list using
somebody's much-vaunted screwdriver design that has actually survived
northen winters where they use salt on the roads, without a lot of
maintenance headaches?  I would think that with the advent of the KX3, a
lot more folks on this list will be considering going HF mobile.

73,

-- Dave, N8SBE



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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 reservation confirmation

2011-06-01 Thread Dave New, N8SBE
Eric,

I guess I'd feel better knowing that the paper list I filled in at
Dayton has somehow made it into the system.  Is there a way to show a
page perhaps of callsigns registered (so as to protect some semblance of
privacy)?

Otherwise, all us 'paper pushers' will be clogging up the electronic
system with redundant registrations.

73,

-- Dave, N8SBE

  Original Message 
 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX3 reservation confirmation
 From: Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft e...@elecraft.com
 Date: Wed, June 01, 2011 12:41 pm
 To: John Flynn gio.fl...@gmail.com
 Cc: vtuff59...@aol.com, Elecraft@mailman.qth.net


 This is an info list, which will include early notification of when we
 are taking orders.

 Your confirmation is the follow on screen you get thanking you when you
 press the submit button on the info form.  that confirms that your data
 was accepted and entered into our database.  The form also includes
 instructions on how to email your info to us if the form doesn't work
 for you.

 We are receiving so many requests (a good thing) that manual emails from
 us confirming them are impossible. We'd have to hire another full time
 person just to send the emails ;-)

 73, Eric
 www.elecraft.com

 On 6/1/2011 6:45 AM, John Flynn wrote:
  Thanks for asking this que.
 
  ~John KK4BOB
 
  On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 5:46 AM,vtuff59...@aol.com  wrote:
  Eric  Wayne,
  will  we get confirmation that we got on the KX3
  reservation list?
 
  I ask as there were issues with the automated web registration.
 
  73's
 
  Vic Tuff
  G7PYR
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Re: [Elecraft] OT: WWV-driven station clock that displays zulu time

2011-06-02 Thread Dave New, N8SBE
As with all things RF, your mileage may vary.

I have a wall-type clock I picked up at Dayton a year or so ago, in the
bargain pile in the flea market for $10 (brand name unknown, but it has
a sticker on the back that says Made in China).  Works fine, until you
get a marginal signal from WWVB (which is on 60 kHz, by the way -- check
out the WWVB web site [http://www.nist.gov/pml/div688/grp40/wwvb.cfm] to
see how they pump out a lot of power out on 60 kHz, also the format of
the timing signals, which are set at the rate of 1 bit per second). 
Apparently some of the chip sets don't bother to check the error bits,
and will set weird times and dates if a bit gets lost here or there.  I
keep this particular clock in my office on top of the cube cabinet so it
at least has a clear view west over the cube farms out the other side of
the building, and sometimes in the morning when I come in, it will be
showing a completely wrong date or some odd time.  Placing it in the
nearby east-facing window across the aisle and forcing a synchronization
corrects it.

I also have a Citizen 'atomic' watch that works quite well at home at
night on the dresser (the WWVB 'atomic' clocks auto-sync at 2 or 3 in
the morning local time to take advantage of the enhanced night-time
propagation on 60 kHz), as long as I keep it away a foot or so from my
CDMA-based Sprint cell phone. Otherwise, emissions from the phone
charging circuitry seem to interfere with it.

I would certainly welcome something that would increase the accuracy of
the clock in the K3.  It tends to wander quite a bit, and it's a hassle
to have to dump all the various programs I have talking to the K3 over
the serial port via Larry's (N8LP) excellent bridge program, so I can
run the K3 utility to synchronize the K3 clock to the computer clock. 
You'd think that after spending thousands of dollars on a rig like the
K3, that it would at least keep good time. 8-p

BTW, that last statement is what MY customers tell me about MY product
8-) (and no, it's main purpose in life is NOT to keep good time,
either).  I just couldn't resist using that argument on someone else.

73,

-- Dave, N8SBE

  Original Message 
 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] OT: WWV-driven station clock that displays zulu
 time
 From: Charles R Tropp charlestr...@yahoo.com
 Date: Thu, June 02, 2011 4:46 am
 To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net


 The problem with the La Crosse clocks and all atomic clocks is that if
 you have a computer near your operating position (as most of us have
 these days), the clock must be at least 6 feet away (as per the
 instructions that come with the clock) otherwise there will be no
 reception of the WWVB signals. That means you will need to get a wall
 mounted clock that is large enough for you to see and it probably should
 be mounted on a wall that is facing the WWVB signal you are trying to
 receive for best reception of the WWVB signals which is hit or miss most
 nights.  (e.g. West if you are East of Ft Collins, Colorado). The model
 WS-8157U-IT can be set to UTC if you wish.

 73, Charles, N2SO

 On 6/2/2011 12:20 AM, Joe Subich, W4TV wrote:
  The Lacrosse Technology WS-8115U, WS-8157U and WS-8117U are all WWVB
  based clocks that can be set to display UTC in 24 Hour format.  They
  can also display indoor/outdoor temperatures and day/date.
 
  The Lacrosse Technology products are available several places on-line
  look for places like www.atomicclocks.com, www.atomic-clocks.com and
  probably other places ... check around for the best price and make
  sure you can download a manual in advance.  There are many brands of
  Atomic Clocks available on-line and they all seem to be based on
  a limited number of commodity receiver/clock chip sets but most do
  not have on-line manuals to confirm the ability to select time zones
  other than ET/CT/MT/PT with/without DST.
 
  73,
 
   ... Joe, W4TV
 
 
  On 6/1/2011 9:26 PM, k7hbg @dslextreme.com wrote:
  Great request Wayne!
 
 I would like a clock like Wayne describes too. All (polite) suggestions
  Welcome. ;o)
 
  73, Bob K7HBG
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Re: [Elecraft] Bluetooth handsfree interface [was: KX3 netbook]

2011-06-03 Thread Dave New, N8SBE
Actually, a bluetooth interface, especially for headset use, is a
serious consideration.

Most states have enacted a patchwork of anti-cellphone laws that to a
greater or lesser degree adversely impact amateur (and other) radio
operators.  The purpose of this comment is NOT to start a thread on
whether or not these various laws have merit.  Rather, it is to set the
background for a request to support handsfree usage of frankly, any of
the phone rigs that Elecraft markets.

There is a 3rd party that markets a bolt-on system to use with most any
rig, but it is pricey (several hundred dollars) and clumsy (it seems
that NO ONE makes a decent bluetooth headset for PTT operators).

And that turns out to be the real challenge.  If someone could design a
decent affordable bluetooth headset with a reasonable PTT mechanism, I
believe the radio world would beat a path to your door.  Reasonable
DOES NOT mean having to push a button on the ear piece.

My apologies if this has been hashed to death on here before.  I'm about
a year behind reading all the older email on this list.

73,

-- Dave, N8SBE

  Original Message 
 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX3 netbook
 From: Leigh L. Klotz Jr WA5ZNU le...@wa5znu.org
 Date: Thu, June 02, 2011 6:12 pm
 To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net


 Byron N6NUL  wrote:
 
  Ok, Eric, you asked for it.  Ready?  Here we go:
 
  How about adding Bluetooth stereo audio, microphone, keyboard, and serial
  profiles to the KX3?
 

 The HFPack crowd would like this to, as I opined earlier.  Stick radio in
 back, operate remotely from hand-held device (homebrew or commercial).

 Leigh/WA5ZNU

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Re: [Elecraft] Bluetooth handsfree interface [was: KX3 netbook]

2011-06-03 Thread Dave New, N8SBE
Ben,

Someone recently had written an article (in QST?) about re-purposing
some of the steering-wheel mounted switches in his vehicle.  He was
snooping on the vehicle bus for this application.  Not for the timid, I
would think, and pretty specialized by vehicle manufacturer.

Otherwise, mounting a PPT switch somehow on the wheel, assuming the
mechanical issues are overcome -- how do you route the wiring, or if it
is wireless itself, how do you get power to it, or does it use a small
button cell battery?

You can see that the devil is in the details.

Joe,

You probably have a point, but not every state or locality has that
particular restriction.  In the few cases I've studied, they seem to
dwell on hand held devices.  If you have a PPT switch clipped to your
shirt, you may be OK.  But of course, we all know that the arresting
officer is not being paid to make judgement calls of that sort.

I'd rather not debate the legalities on this list, since that could very
quickly explode into something that Eric would have to squash.

I just brought it up as a thought starter for the 'wish list', if the
Elecraft folks could come up with an imaginative way to implement this
at a reasonable cost.  I live in SE Michigan, and right now, I can't use
my amateur equipment in nearby Ontario when mobile, because they have a
no handheld devices, except first responders law in effect.  Cramps my
style, you see. 8-)

73,

-- Dave, N8SBE

  Original Message 
 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Bluetooth handsfree interface [was: KX3
 netbook]
 From: ~BG~ archie...@gmail.com
 Date: Fri, June 03, 2011 4:13 pm
 To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
 
 
 Mount the switch on the steering wheel? (ala car stereo controls)
 
 
 
 ./Ben
 
 
  Unfortunately, as soon as one adds a hand operated PTT switch, the
  device is no longer hands free under most of the regulations.  Better
  carry a copy of the statutes that exempt amateur radio operators and
  a copy of one's amateur license.
 
  73,
 
 ... Joe, W4TV
 
 
 
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Re: [Elecraft] Bluetooth hands free interface (AWUI)

2011-06-03 Thread Dave New, N8SBE
Fred,

Thanks for your insights on this subject (AWUI).

A new twist in bluetooth is BLE (bluetooth low energy).  Likely subject
to the same limitations as regular bluetooth, but promises to be
accommodated in low-power devices that regular bluetooth power levels
would quickly drain.

The only example of a product currently using BLE that I know of is a
heart rate monitor for folks that are exercising.  The signal from the
chest band is picked up by a bluetooth-equipped smartphone and piped
into a app that tracks your workouts.  There are complaints from users,
though, that the BLE signal doesn't penetrate their bodies -- if they
put their smartphone in their back pouch when bicycling, for instance,
their body blocks the signal.

Might be OK, though, for headphone/headset applications.

TI has a BLE mini development kit CC2540, which is sitting on my office
desk.  I've not had the time to play with it, yet. Comes with
programming cables, etc., so you can experiment with the technology.

73,

-- Dave, N8SBE

  Original Message 
 Subject: RE: [Elecraft] Bluetooth hands free interface (AWUI)
 From: Fred Townsend ftowns...@sbcglobal.net
 Date: Fri, June 03, 2011 4:04 pm
 To: 'Dave New, N8SBE' n8...@arrl.net
 Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net


 Dave I think you raise some very good points. The need for an Amateur
 Wireless User Interface (AWUI) is a great one. Note I did not say blue tooth
 for good reason.

 Bluetooth is full duplex where clearly a half-duplex solution is needed.
 Before you say you could use VOX think about the portable environment where
 you can't control the noise around you. Spectrum pollution brought to by the
 auto horn, the baby crying, and audible aids for the blind.

 If you want to see how not to do amateur Bluetooth (ABluetooth) look no
 further than Yaesu. Both stereo and monaural interfaces are offered for the
 FTM-350. Since it has two separate receivers a stereo interface makes a lot
 of sense. However their BH-1A (stereo) interface only works in stereo when
 listening to the commercial FM broadcast band! For the ham bands you need to
 use the BH-2A monaural interface. Thank you Elecraft for figuring out a
 stereo headset can be of great value in the ham bands. Furthermore when the
 cost of the BU-1 (Bluetooth) option and the headset is combined you have a
 gold plated option that doesn't even do what you want it to do. Oh, one more
 thing. Look at the Yaesu headset model numbers. The stereo is a  dash 1 and
 the monaural a dash 2. I hope that was mentioned on that marketing guy's
 performance review.

 So how do you go about creating a better wireless interface? Sure it's sexy
 to leverage chipsets off the high volume applications like cell phone
 Bluetooth. I always like it when I can use a chip someone else has paid to
 develop. Maybe we should be looking at Zigbee chipset rather than Bluetooth.
 The wider bandwidth could be used to provide full remote control of the rig.
 At a minimum then provide the functions available on many of the DTMF
 microphones... Up/Down frequency, etc. Make the interface two parts so you
 can put the PTT interface on a belt clip. You could have a plug-in for a leg
 mounted key too. Don't make it as good as. Make it better. How cool to say
 you are using an Ah woo ie (AWUI).

 de Fred, AE6QL

 -Original Message-
 From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net
 [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Dave New, N8SBE
 Sent: Friday, June 03, 2011 10:24 AM
 Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Bluetooth handsfree interface [was: KX3 netbook]

 Actually, a bluetooth interface, especially for headset use, is a serious
 consideration.

 Most states have enacted a patchwork of anti-cellphone laws that to a
 greater or lesser degree adversely impact amateur (and other) radio
 operators.  The purpose of this comment is NOT to start a thread on whether
 or not these various laws have merit.  Rather, it is to set the background
 for a request to support handsfree usage of frankly, any of the phone rigs
 that Elecraft markets.

 There is a 3rd party that markets a bolt-on system to use with most any rig,
 but it is pricey (several hundred dollars) and clumsy (it seems that NO ONE
 makes a decent bluetooth headset for PTT operators).

 And that turns out to be the real challenge.  If someone could design a
 decent affordable bluetooth headset with a reasonable PTT mechanism, I
 believe the radio world would beat a path to your door.  Reasonable
 DOES NOT mean having to push a button on the ear piece.

 My apologies if this has been hashed to death on here before.  I'm about a
 year behind reading all the older email on this list.

 73,-- Dave, N8SBE

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Re: [Elecraft] New K3 guide by KE7X

2011-06-09 Thread Dave New, N8SBE
Nicely offset my ground shipping costs, Bill.  Thanks!

Counting printing and shipping time, the book should arrive in time for
this year's Field Day.

I intend to bring the book our to our W8UM/ARROW joint Field Day effort
along with my K3/P3, and wave it about, to see if I can generate any
more interest in both the rig and the book.

We've successfully used the K3 in the past two Field Days to churn out
about 800+ CW contacts for the weekend.  It does yeoman's work, and I've
heard nothing but compliments on its performance.  This will be the
first year with the P3, so we'll see about folks' reaction to that.

Thanks, Fred, for what looks like what will be a really useful guide to
the K3/P3. I'm sure I'll enjoy pouring through it, and learning
surprising new things about my radio.

73,

-- Dave, N8SBE

  Original Message 
 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] New K3 guide by KE7X
 From: Bill Tippett btipp...@alum.mit.edu
 Date: Thu, June 09, 2011 11:41 am
 To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
 
 
 And don't forget to enter the 20% discount coupon code SUMMERBOOK11 
 during checkout!
 
 73,  Bill  W4ZV
 
 http://www.ke7x.com/home/guide-to-the-k3/order
 
 June 9, 2011:
 We are good to go!  Thanks for your patience while I made sure 
 everything looked OK.
 73, Fred
 
 
 KE7X wrote:
 
 Hi Folks,
 Please hold off going to the ke7x.com website to order the book (you 
 can look at some of the samples from chapters, though.) I want to 
 have one final, final, last look at it before releasing it.
 Thanks for all the interest.
 Fred
 
 
 Fred Cady
 fcady at ieee dot org
 
 
 
 
   -Original Message-
   From: 
 http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraftelecraft-bounces at 
 mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-
   http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraftbounces at 
 mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of T Gahagan
   Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2011 1:07 PM
   To: Elecraft List
   Subject: [Elecraft] New K3 guide by KE7X
  
   For those that don't know about the new K3 guide by KE7X check out the
   link in this message.  Fred has done an outstanding job of explaining
   many of the intricacies of the K3 that have puzzled me.  Block diagrams
   and step by step instructions on just about every facet of operation
   are really helpful.  Fred's guide doesn't replace the K3 manual by any
   means but it sure  has helped me determine if I have my K3 set up
   properly for what I am trying to accomplish.  I have no financial
   interest in this product but thought reflector members might like to
   know about this new offering.
  
   Todd, WA7U
  
  
  
   
 http://www.ke7x.com/home/guide-to-the-k3http://www.ke7x.com/home/guide-to-the-k3
 
 
 
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Re: [Elecraft] [K3] K3EXREF K144REFLK and K144XV

2011-06-09 Thread Dave New, N8SBE
Wayne,

What I guess I don't understand is why the TXCO functionality was never
finished.  Seems like that would help a number of accuracy/calibration
issues, and I bought the .5 ppm option expecting that it would be
useful.

I'm disappointed in what appears to be a decision to abandon finishing
that project.

On a related note, it wouldn't hurt to do something to fix the real time
clock, so I don't have to keep syncing it with my laptop to keep it
reasonably on time.

Thanks,

-- Dave, N8SBE

  Original Message 
 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [K3] K3EXREF K144REFLK and K144XV
 From: Wayne Burdick n...@elecraft.com
 Date: Thu, June 09, 2011 1:02 pm
 To: David Pratt da...@g4dmp.fsnet.co.uk
 Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net, Tim Taylor tim-tay...@comcast.net


 I'm on the hook for this. I'll send out test code when it's ready.

 73,
 Wayne
 N6KR

 On Jun 9, 2011, at 9:36 AM, David Pratt wrote:

  Tim - My understanding is that the K3EXREF does not stabilise the
  transverter offset.  I believe this is planned in a future K3 firmware
  upgrade, but as far as I am aware this has not yet happened.
 
  73 de David G4DMP
 
  In a recent message, Tim Taylor tim-tay...@comcast.net writes
  So right now, the K3EXREF will stabilize the frequency of the basic
  radio;
  however, it will not stabilize the frequency of the K144XV. It is my
  understanding that the firmware for the K144XV is in the que.
  --
  + - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - +
  | David M Pratt, Kippax, Leeds.   |
  | Website: http://www.g4dmp.co.uk |
  + - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - +
 
 
 
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Re: [Elecraft] [K3] K3EXREF K144REFLK and K144XV

2011-06-09 Thread Dave New, N8SBE
Wayne,

Thank you for your detailed answer.

I was following the conversation (or thought I was) that the external
reference and transverter lock was another way to get high
stability/accuracy at UHF and higher frequencies.  I guess the issue
then becomes, which is more annoying and/or more effective?

Maybe I'm missing something obvious, but wouldn't a .25 (or better)
ppm-calibrated TXCO be less expensive than all the other stuff, and take
up a lot less room (and weight)?

I'm really curious about this (and the RTC question I posed) mainly
because I'm working with a supplier right now on a fix for a drifting
time-of-day clock issue, and the proposed solution involves a Seiko TXCO
oscillator that operates over -40C to +85C (automotive interior) and
supposedly gives .5 ppm.

73,

-- Dave, N8SBE

  Original Message 
 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [K3] K3EXREF K144REFLK and K144XV
 From: Wayne Burdick n...@elecraft.com
 Date: Thu, June 09, 2011 2:08 pm
 To: Dave New, N8SBE n8...@arrl.net
 Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net, Tim Taylor tim-tay...@comcast.net,
 David Pratt da...@g4dmp.fsnet.co.uk


 Dave,

 The 49 MHz 1-ppm oscillator is a TXCO, and it works well (0.5 ppm
 from 0 to 50 C). Originally we thought we would not be able to hit
 this target without adding firmware-based correction.

 I did implement the firmware correction, but I wasn't happy with it,
 because it didn't provide much of an improvement beyond 0.5 ppm with
 all oscillators tested. What I found is that I had to create data for
 every 1 degree C, rather than every 5 degrees, in order to get to hit
 a more aggressive 0.25 ppm target. But the manufacturer of the TCXO
 had predicted that 5-degree data points would be sufficient for the
 algorithm, and that is what they supply with the oscillators. We could
 ask the for 1-degree data, but that would increase the cost (not to
 mention create five times as much data). It would also not be of much
 help to those who already had 1-ppm TCXOs installed.

 What we could do in a future release is provide a way for customers to
 manually generate and use 1-degree data. Call it Method 4. It seems
 a bit onerous, but here's the idea: First, you'd put your K3 in the
 refrigerator long enough to get to 0C, or the desired low operating
 temp. Next, set the rig up with an accurate frequency counter
 connected to the output of the oscillator, and put the cover back on,
 or at least part of the way on (the freq counter cable has to come out
 at the back or side). Then, as the radio heats up, write down the
 oscillator frequencies for each 1-degree point. When it gets as hot as
 it's going to get due to ambient temperature, turn on a hot lamp or
 hair dryer and aim it at the top cover, about where the oscillator is.
 Continue heating and logging data until the desired max operating
 temperature is reached.

 You could then enter this info into a revised oscillator calibration
 data screen in K3 Utility. I'd have to add the firmware necessary to
 allow the oscillator to be updated continuously based on 1-degre data.

 This is a long answer to your question. It begs the further question,
 Would anyone bother?

 73,
 Wayne
 N6KR


 On Jun 9, 2011, at 10:36 AM, Dave New, N8SBE wrote:

  Wayne,
 
  What I guess I don't understand is why the TXCO functionality was
  never
  finished.  Seems like that would help a number of accuracy/calibration
  issues, and I bought the .5 ppm option expecting that it would be
  useful.
 
  I'm disappointed in what appears to be a decision to abandon finishing
  that project.
 
  On a related note, it wouldn't hurt to do something to fix the real
  time
  clock, so I don't have to keep syncing it with my laptop to keep it
  reasonably on time.
 
  Thanks,
 
  -- Dave, N8SBE
 
   Original Message 
  Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [K3] K3EXREF K144REFLK and K144XV
  From: Wayne Burdick n...@elecraft.com
  Date: Thu, June 09, 2011 1:02 pm
  To: David Pratt da...@g4dmp.fsnet.co.uk
  Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net, Tim Taylor tim-tay...@comcast.net
 
 
  I'm on the hook for this. I'll send out test code when it's ready.
 
  73,
  Wayne
  N6KR
 
  On Jun 9, 2011, at 9:36 AM, David Pratt wrote:
 
  Tim - My understanding is that the K3EXREF does not stabilise the
  transverter offset.  I believe this is planned in a future K3
  firmware
  upgrade, but as far as I am aware this has not yet happened.
 
  73 de David G4DMP
 
  In a recent message, Tim Taylor tim-tay...@comcast.net writes
  So right now, the K3EXREF will stabilize the frequency of the basic
  radio;
  however, it will not stabilize the frequency of the K144XV. It is
  my
  understanding that the firmware for the K144XV is in the que.
  --
  + - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - +
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Re: [Elecraft] [K3] K3EXREF K144REFLK and K144XV

2011-06-09 Thread Dave New, N8SBE
Sorry, Seiko is the RTC -- google for S35390A_E.pdf

Dallas (Maxim) is the TXCO supplier -- google for DS32kHz-DS32KHZS.pdf

73,

-- Dave, N8SBE

  Original Message 
 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [K3] K3EXREF K144REFLK and K144XV
 From: Wayne Burdick n...@elecraft.com
 Date: Thu, June 09, 2011 2:08 pm
 To: Dave New, N8SBE n8...@arrl.net
 Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net, Tim Taylor tim-tay...@comcast.net,
 David Pratt da...@g4dmp.fsnet.co.uk


 Dave,

 The 49 MHz 1-ppm oscillator is a TXCO, and it works well (0.5 ppm
 from 0 to 50 C). Originally we thought we would not be able to hit
 this target without adding firmware-based correction.

 I did implement the firmware correction, but I wasn't happy with it,
 because it didn't provide much of an improvement beyond 0.5 ppm with
 all oscillators tested. What I found is that I had to create data for
 every 1 degree C, rather than every 5 degrees, in order to get to hit
 a more aggressive 0.25 ppm target. But the manufacturer of the TCXO
 had predicted that 5-degree data points would be sufficient for the
 algorithm, and that is what they supply with the oscillators. We could
 ask the for 1-degree data, but that would increase the cost (not to
 mention create five times as much data). It would also not be of much
 help to those who already had 1-ppm TCXOs installed.

 What we could do in a future release is provide a way for customers to
 manually generate and use 1-degree data. Call it Method 4. It seems
 a bit onerous, but here's the idea: First, you'd put your K3 in the
 refrigerator long enough to get to 0C, or the desired low operating
 temp. Next, set the rig up with an accurate frequency counter
 connected to the output of the oscillator, and put the cover back on,
 or at least part of the way on (the freq counter cable has to come out
 at the back or side). Then, as the radio heats up, write down the
 oscillator frequencies for each 1-degree point. When it gets as hot as
 it's going to get due to ambient temperature, turn on a hot lamp or
 hair dryer and aim it at the top cover, about where the oscillator is.
 Continue heating and logging data until the desired max operating
 temperature is reached.

 You could then enter this info into a revised oscillator calibration
 data screen in K3 Utility. I'd have to add the firmware necessary to
 allow the oscillator to be updated continuously based on 1-degre data.

 This is a long answer to your question. It begs the further question,
 Would anyone bother?

 73,
 Wayne
 N6KR


 On Jun 9, 2011, at 10:36 AM, Dave New, N8SBE wrote:

  Wayne,
 
  What I guess I don't understand is why the TXCO functionality was
  never
  finished.  Seems like that would help a number of accuracy/calibration
  issues, and I bought the .5 ppm option expecting that it would be
  useful.
 
  I'm disappointed in what appears to be a decision to abandon finishing
  that project.
 
  On a related note, it wouldn't hurt to do something to fix the real
  time
  clock, so I don't have to keep syncing it with my laptop to keep it
  reasonably on time.
 
  Thanks,
 
  -- Dave, N8SBE
 
   Original Message 
  Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [K3] K3EXREF K144REFLK and K144XV
  From: Wayne Burdick n...@elecraft.com
  Date: Thu, June 09, 2011 1:02 pm
  To: David Pratt da...@g4dmp.fsnet.co.uk
  Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net, Tim Taylor tim-tay...@comcast.net
 
 
  I'm on the hook for this. I'll send out test code when it's ready.
 
  73,
  Wayne
  N6KR
 
  On Jun 9, 2011, at 9:36 AM, David Pratt wrote:
 
  Tim - My understanding is that the K3EXREF does not stabilise the
  transverter offset.  I believe this is planned in a future K3
  firmware
  upgrade, but as far as I am aware this has not yet happened.
 
  73 de David G4DMP
 
  In a recent message, Tim Taylor tim-tay...@comcast.net writes
  So right now, the K3EXREF will stabilize the frequency of the basic
  radio;
  however, it will not stabilize the frequency of the K144XV. It is
  my
  understanding that the firmware for the K144XV is in the que.
  --
  + - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - +
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  | Website: http://www.g4dmp.co.uk |
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Re: [Elecraft] New Sanyo eneloops

2011-06-10 Thread Dave New, N8SBE
The long recharge times (at least with the supplied/supported
Sanyo/Panasonic chargers) are off-putting.

I use Duracell Renewals that come with a lightweight switching power
supply to re-charge my camera flash AA batteries in 1/2 hour (they will
actually tolerate a 15 minute charge cycle).  That way I can flash away
with one set while the other set re-charges.

Maybe not the same application, but the long re-charge time for the
FT817, for instance, in terms of 6 hours or more, was more than I could
take.  I replaced the factory pack with a w4RT Ni-MH pack that sports a
MaHa-style connector on the bottom plate.  Now, I can re-charge the
batteries in about 1 to 1 1/2 hours.  Much better.

I understand the KX3 will have an internal charger for Ni-MH.  It would
be nice to have an external charger port for a Maha or other fast
charger, so I wouldn't have to disassemble the KX3 to get at the
batteries.

-- Dave, N8SBE

  Original Message 
 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] New Sanyo eneloops
 From: Matt Zilmer mzil...@verizon.net
 Date: Fri, June 10, 2011 11:10 am
 To: AB8XA ab...@arrl.net
 Cc: Elecraft elecraft@mailman.qth.net


 Eneloops hold a charge quite well.  I'm using them for various
 wireless peripherals around the shack.

 The Tenergy NiMH AA cells are also quite good and have a slightly
 higher rated capacity.I plan on using two sets of these for the
 KX3.

 NiMH in general is very cost effective compared to the higher price of
 Lithium-based energy storage.

 73,
 matt W6NIA


 On Fri, 10 Jun 2011 06:26:42 -0400, you wrote:

 I know many have moved on to other technologies, but some still use Sanyo's 
 eneloop NiMH batteries for their price and ability to hold a charge for a 
 long time (I'm thinking KX3).
 
 I see this morning they have a couple of new models (and a wireless charging 
 case), one with 25% greater capacity:
 
 http://panasonic.net/sanyo/news/2011/06/09-1.html
 
 73
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Re: [Elecraft] [K3] K3EXREF K144REFLK and K144XV

2011-06-13 Thread Dave New, N8SBE
Geez, I gotta quit relying on my memory.  From the Dallas datasheet:

The output is accurate to ±2ppm (±1 min/yr) from 0°C to +40°C and to
±7.5ppm
(±4 min/year) from -40°C to 0°C and from +40°C to +85°C.

Not exactly .5 ppm, but this is for a different application (RTC) than
what we were discussing.

Beats our current ±30ppm on our existing time-of-day design, which
works out to ±80 seconds/month.

I'd certainly be happy if the K3 clock would stay within ±1 min/yr...

73,

-- Dave, N8SBE

  Original Message 
 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [K3] K3EXREF K144REFLK and K144XV
 From: Dave New, N8SBE n8...@arrl.net
 Date: Thu, June 09, 2011 2:51 pm
 To: Wayne Burdick n...@elecraft.com
 Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net, Tim Taylor tim-tay...@comcast.net


 Sorry, Seiko is the RTC -- google for S35390A_E.pdf

 Dallas (Maxim) is the TXCO supplier -- google for DS32kHz-DS32KHZS.pdf

 73,

 -- Dave, N8SBE

   Original Message 
  Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [K3] K3EXREF K144REFLK and K144XV
  From: Wayne Burdick n...@elecraft.com
  Date: Thu, June 09, 2011 2:08 pm
  To: Dave New, N8SBE n8...@arrl.net
  Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net, Tim Taylor tim-tay...@comcast.net,
  David Pratt da...@g4dmp.fsnet.co.uk
 
 
  Dave,
 
  The 49 MHz 1-ppm oscillator is a TXCO, and it works well (0.5 ppm
  from 0 to 50 C). Originally we thought we would not be able to hit
  this target without adding firmware-based correction.
 
  I did implement the firmware correction, but I wasn't happy with it,
  because it didn't provide much of an improvement beyond 0.5 ppm with
  all oscillators tested. What I found is that I had to create data for
  every 1 degree C, rather than every 5 degrees, in order to get to hit
  a more aggressive 0.25 ppm target. But the manufacturer of the TCXO
  had predicted that 5-degree data points would be sufficient for the
  algorithm, and that is what they supply with the oscillators. We could
  ask the for 1-degree data, but that would increase the cost (not to
  mention create five times as much data). It would also not be of much
  help to those who already had 1-ppm TCXOs installed.
 
  What we could do in a future release is provide a way for customers to
  manually generate and use 1-degree data. Call it Method 4. It seems
  a bit onerous, but here's the idea: First, you'd put your K3 in the
  refrigerator long enough to get to 0C, or the desired low operating
  temp. Next, set the rig up with an accurate frequency counter
  connected to the output of the oscillator, and put the cover back on,
  or at least part of the way on (the freq counter cable has to come out
  at the back or side). Then, as the radio heats up, write down the
  oscillator frequencies for each 1-degree point. When it gets as hot as
  it's going to get due to ambient temperature, turn on a hot lamp or
  hair dryer and aim it at the top cover, about where the oscillator is.
  Continue heating and logging data until the desired max operating
  temperature is reached.
 
  You could then enter this info into a revised oscillator calibration
  data screen in K3 Utility. I'd have to add the firmware necessary to
  allow the oscillator to be updated continuously based on 1-degre data.
 
  This is a long answer to your question. It begs the further question,
  Would anyone bother?
 
  73,
  Wayne
  N6KR
 
 
  On Jun 9, 2011, at 10:36 AM, Dave New, N8SBE wrote:
 
   Wayne,
  
   What I guess I don't understand is why the TXCO functionality was
   never
   finished.  Seems like that would help a number of accuracy/calibration
   issues, and I bought the .5 ppm option expecting that it would be
   useful.
  
   I'm disappointed in what appears to be a decision to abandon finishing
   that project.
  
   On a related note, it wouldn't hurt to do something to fix the real
   time
   clock, so I don't have to keep syncing it with my laptop to keep it
   reasonably on time.
  
   Thanks,
  
   -- Dave, N8SBE
  
    Original Message 
   Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [K3] K3EXREF K144REFLK and K144XV
   From: Wayne Burdick n...@elecraft.com
   Date: Thu, June 09, 2011 1:02 pm
   To: David Pratt da...@g4dmp.fsnet.co.uk
   Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net, Tim Taylor tim-tay...@comcast.net
  
  
   I'm on the hook for this. I'll send out test code when it's ready.
  
   73,
   Wayne
   N6KR
  
   On Jun 9, 2011, at 9:36 AM, David Pratt wrote:
  
   Tim - My understanding is that the K3EXREF does not stabilise the
   transverter offset.  I believe this is planned in a future K3
   firmware
   upgrade, but as far as I am aware this has not yet happened.
  
   73 de David G4DMP
  
   In a recent message, Tim Taylor tim-tay...@comcast.net writes
   So right now, the K3EXREF will stabilize the frequency of the basic
   radio;
   however, it will not stabilize the frequency of the K144XV. It is
   my
   understanding that the firmware for the K144XV is in the que.
   --
   + - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - +
   | David M Pratt, Kippax

[Elecraft] W8UM/ARROW Joint Field Day Effort

2011-06-23 Thread Dave New, N8SBE
The University of Michigan ARC and the Washtenaw County ARROW
Communications Association will jointly operate Field Day this year as
Class 5A at Domino's Farms, Domino's World Headquarters, Ann Arbor, MI.

All stations, except the GOTA station, will use the UMARC call sign
W8UM.

We will use a K3 (for the third year in a row) as our 20-10m/80m CW
station.  We've added a P3 this year.

Our GOTA station will be using the ARROW club call sign W8PGW.

We will be QRV all bands 160m-1.2GHz, SSB/CW, and on HF PSK31 and RTTY,
with a dedicated digital station.

To see pix of some of our previous efforts, check out
http://www.pbase.com/theoldmoose

73,

-- Dave, N8SBE, K3 #3104

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Re: [Elecraft] Make the Feet Stickier

2012-03-14 Thread Dave New, N8SBE
Joel,

Amazing that no one has yet pointed out the obvious solution -- get a
heavier radio.

The K3 is just too darn light -- you need a MAN'S radio, one of those
YaeComWood 50-pounders.

I bet then it won't slide, no matter what you are trying to plug into
it.

(Said firmly with tongue in cheek, in case anyone's blood pressure is
rising).

73,

-- Dave, N8SBE

  Original Message 
 Subject: [Elecraft] Make the Feet Stickier
 From: Joel Black joel.b.bl...@gmail.com
 Date: Tue, March 13, 2012 8:14 pm
 To: elecraft...@yahoogroups.com, elecraft elecraft@mailman.qth.net


 How would I go about making the feet on the K3 stickier?  I don't want
 them *stuck* to the shelf my radio sits on, but if I bump it or try to
 plug something in, I chase it around the shelf.  Is there something I
 can use to make it just a tad stickier?

 Thanks,
 Joel - W4JBB
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Re: [Elecraft] Make the Feet Stickier

2012-03-14 Thread Dave New, N8SBE
Real radios glow in the dark?

Sorry, couldn't resist.

73,

-- Dave, N8SBE

  Original Message 
 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Make the Feet Stickier
 From: Ian White GM3SEK gm3...@ifwtech.co.uk
 Date: Wed, March 14, 2012 3:02 pm
 To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net


 Dave New, N8SBE wrote:
 
 The K3 is just too darn light -- you need a MAN'S radio, one of those
 YaeComWood 50-pounders.
 

 Coming soon, specially crafted for all those stay-at-home K3s:
 replacement top and bottom covers made from Depleted Uranium.

 Order code KDU3

 [Insert user-configurable radioactivity joke here.]


 --

 73 from Ian GM3SEK
 http://www.ifwtech.co.uk/g3sek
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Re: [Elecraft] Make the Feet Stickier

2012-03-15 Thread Dave New, N8SBE
Bob,

I had forgotten about that option.  I have a subreceiver in my K3, and
it certainly doesn't move around on the desk like it used to.

Even better, it will certainly help Elecraft's sales, if everyone buys a
sub for their K3.

A brilliant suggestion.

73,

-- Dave, N8SBE

  Original Message 
 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Make the Feet Stickier
 From: Bob Wolbert b...@elecraft.com
 Date: Wed, March 14, 2012 3:59 pm
 To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net


snip
 Once the subreceivers were added, the
 combined weight is just about perfect, as long as the cleaning crew (me)
 dusts the shack occasionally.

snip

 Regards,

 Bob Wolbert



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Re: [Elecraft] P3 Artifacts On The Waterfall Display

2012-03-19 Thread Dave New, N8SBE
Do you have any transverters or other possible spurious noise sources
hooked up?

I noticed that once I hooked up my Elecraft 2 M and 70 cm transverters
that noticeable spurious lines started showing up.  I haven't had time
to try to chase it down, yet.

73,

-- Dave, N8SBE

  Original Message 
 Subject: [Elecraft] P3 Artifacts On The Waterfall Display
 From: Jack Regan ae...@sbcglobal.net
 Date: Thu, March 15, 2012 5:52 pm
 To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net
 
 
 I have noticed that there are several white lines showing in the waterfall
 display that do not move when I change frequency.  Some are fuzzy and some
 are well defined narrow lines. All these lines are vertical and would appear
 to be signals except that when I tune toward the signal they never change
 their position on the display. Real signals  can be tuned into and the
 waterfall shows their change to the center of the display.  It is really
 noticeable on 10  20 and 50 but does not seem to be happening at all on 15
 and 40. The rest of the bands have the problem to a lesser degree.
 
  
 
 Any ideas?
 
  
 
 Jack AE6GC
 
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Re: [Elecraft] P3 Basics

2012-03-20 Thread Dave New, N8SBE
I dunno.  Beats me.  You sure it doesn't move when you spin the VFO B
knob?

73,

-- Dave, N8SBE

  Original Message 
 Subject: [Elecraft] P3 Basics
 From: Pete Meier pme...@me.com
 Date: Tue, March 20, 2012 8:39 am
 To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net


 Ok folks,

 I'll try this question again. On the P3 display there is a purple line that 
 move out or in when you set the SPAN width. This is NOT the VFO A or B marker!
 I would like to understand what it signifies and if there is any control over 
 it's position other than the SPAN setting and why.
 I find on some bands it up the scale, like on 20 meters CW, with Span set at 
 40 it's way up at 14.186.00 when I am at 14.010.00
 But when I switch to 30 meters CW Span at 40 also its at 10.115.45 while on 
 40M CW at 40 Span it's at 7.008.00
 So it confounds me what it signifies as it varies so much between bands at 
 the same settings.

 Please politely enlighten me.

 Thanks,

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Re: [Elecraft] K3: Firmware 4.48 release - stable, in use?

2012-03-29 Thread Dave New, N8SBE
Use Larry's N8LP LP-Bridge to intermediate:
http://www.telepostinc.com/LPB.html

I had been using it prior to getting my P3, so I could share HRD or N1MM
with the PowerSDR/IF program and Larry's LP-Pan, and never had any AGC
issues with the K3.

When I dropped usage of Larry's LP-Pan for the P3, I tried running HRD
'bare' with the K3, and found pretty quickly that was a no-go.

I found that if I launch LP-Bridge first, then connect HRD via
LP-Bridge, I haven't had any issues.  LP-Bridge caches the K3 state and
hands it out to all comers, including HRD.  Apparently, LP-Bridge is not
fazed by HRD's manhandling.

I tried to discuss HRD's fast polling rate on a local repeater one day
after week, and was essentially told to go pound sand.  There seems to
be a *lot* of HRD apologists out there...

73,

-- Dave, N8SBE

  Original Message 
 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3: Firmware 4.48 release - stable, in use?
 From: N5GE li...@n5ge.com
 Date: Thu, March 29, 2012 8:19 am
 To: John K3TN jpescat...@aol.com
 Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net


 No problems that I'm aware of and I've used it since it was beta.

 I'm a retired IT developer so I understand your feelings about beta stuff, but
 I've never had a problem with the K3 betas.  I just make sure I save the 
 current
 configuration of the K3 before updating the firmware.

 Regarding HRD, I used to use it, but found that it was causing a lot of 
 trouble
 with the K3.  There have been several threads here regarding the K3, mostly
 regarding what you mentioned and it seems that HRD poles the K3 so fast that 
 it
 causes trouble in the areas you mentioned.  I've written my own application 
 for
 the K3 and use events to get rig state rather than polling.

 73,

 Amateur Radio Operator N5GE
 ARRL Lifetime Member
 QCWA Lifetime Member

 Farmers rotate crops to keep their land strong.
 Voters can keep THEIR LAND STRONG by rotating
 politicians at the ballot box each term.
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 http://www.otismukinfus.com


 On Thu, 29 Mar 2012 04:19:52 -0700 (PDT), John K3TN jpescat...@aol.com 
 wrote:

 I work in Internet security and have an ingrained bias against using any beta
 software. However, I use the HRD software that occasionally zaps my K3 AGC
 settings, and putting a P3 inline seems to have exacerbated the problem. Not
 fun when AGC gets turned off on strong signals...
 
 It looks like beta version 4.48 of the K3 firmware should help and it seems
 to have been out for quite some time. Any issues with moving to 4.48?
 
 Thanks, John K3TN

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Re: [Elecraft] K3: Firmware 4.48 release - stable, in use?

2012-03-29 Thread Dave New, N8SBE
Aside from the AGC issue, I found that I couldn't navigate the config
menus from the K3 front panel while HRD was running.

It was hammering the rig so hard that it was hanging the config menu
system.  As soon as I unplugged the cable, I got control of the menus
back.  This was very repeatable.

Again, I never experienced this issue when using LP-Bridge to
intermediate.

73,

-- Dave, N8SBE

  Original Message 
 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3: Firmware 4.48 release - stable, in use?
 From: Joe Subich, W4TV li...@subich.com
 Date: Thu, March 29, 2012 3:26 pm
 To: Bob wb4...@gmail.com, Elecraft Reflector
 elecraft@mailman.qth.net,  km4ik@gmail.com


  While tinkering with the HRD settings (in terms of poll rate) helped
  reduce the problem, it never entirely went away until the K3
  firmware update fixed it once and for all.

 HRD's rig control component was very poorly written.  I gave Rick and
 other involved persons specific documentation of HRD sending the same
 command multiple times less than 1 msec apart as well as serial logs
 showing continuous serial transmission even when the polling rate was
 set longer than 500 msec.

 I have not had time to evaluate the 5.1 fixes but I suspect Rick will
 need to do a nearly complete rewrite of the serial port/CAT controls if
 the problems are to be fixed.

 73,

 ... Joe, W4TV


 On 3/29/2012 1:23 PM, Bob wrote:
  The latest firmware beta fixed my AGC issue with HRD.  According to the
  notes, Elecraft made it more difficult for a bad command to accidentally
  disable the AGC.  It appears that HRD was hammering the serial port quite a
  bit and that was sometimes resulting in a defective message that tripped
  the AGC.
 
  While tinkering with the HRD settings (in terms of poll rate) helped reduce
  the problem, it never entirely went away until the K3 firmware update fixed
  it once and for all.
 
  I highly recommend updating to 4.48 before you blow you your
  speaker/headphones/ears.
 
  73, Bob, WB4SON
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Re: [Elecraft] P3SVGA

2012-03-30 Thread Dave New, N8SBE
Seems that implementing 1920 x 1080 at 58 Hz, instead of 60 Hz, is at
the root of the issue.

Seems that there are a great number of monitors that don't grok the 58
Hz stuff properly at that resolution.

Have you hit a limit in the chip set such that you can't implement 1920
x 1080 at 60 Hz?

That would be a shame.

73,

-- Dave, N8SBE

  Original Message 
 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] P3SVGA
 From: Paul Saffren N6HZ pa...@elecraft.com
 Date: Fri, March 30, 2012 11:56 am
 To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net


 Hi Tom,

 We made the marker lines wider on the SVGA to be more visible given the
 greater resolution and number of pixels.  As you know, a 2048 FFT is
 performed on the SVGA, completely separate from the P3's FFT.  In fact the
 SVGA while very similar to the P3's display by design is not going to be a
 perfect duplicate.

 The extra settings within the SVGA menu, such as font size and waterfall
 color bias are set to be implemented on the next release of SVGA firmware.
 We found a significant problem in P3 version 1.12 and wanted to get v1.13
 out quickly.

 We're also investigating why a few monitors do not sync correctly at
 1920x1080.

 Would you please message me the steps you performed that locked up the
 P3SVGA?

 73,

 Paul



 N5GE-2 wrote
 
  SVGA setup here is 1440 x 900 Can't set the HP 2311x to 1920 x 1080
  because the
  right side of the image goes off the screen.
 
  Comments (mostly aesthetic)
  1. On the P3 screen Marker A and B cursors are the same width as the
  vertical
  tuning line.  On the VGA display they are at least 2 or three times the
  width of
  the tuning cursor.  The tuning lines and the cursors should be the same
  width on
  the SVGA screen as they are on the P3 display.
 
  2. The tick marks horizontal line at the bottom of the screen are shorter
  than
  the ones on the horizontal line at the top of the screen by a pixel or
  two.
 
  3. Setting the font size on the SVGA only changes the font size in the
  label at
  the top left of the display.  Example MKR A:
 3.524.00
  4. I like the fill below spectrum line feature.
 
  5. A few times while moving the A and B markers the screen on the SVGA
  locked
  up.  Turning the P3 off and on resets the problem.
 
  Thanks for all you guys do for us.
 
  Tom
 
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Re: [Elecraft] DXCC map

2012-03-30 Thread Dave New, N8SBE
I really like the one shown at the link below.

Seems like Elecraft could give one with any order at the show.  Kind of
like the K3 t-shirts they handed out with orders a few years ago -- one
of my most treasured t-shirts.  I make a point out of wearing it at
local hamfests and for ARROW Field Day, where my K3 plays a prominent
role as one of the CW stations.

I'd go for more logo'ed merchandise, like coffee mugs, etc.  Maybe set
up a cafepress site?

73,

-- Dave, N8SBE

  Original Message 
 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] DXCC map
 From: K3IT gokoyev+k...@gmail.com
 Date: Fri, March 30, 2012 11:12 am
 To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net


 Does anybody have a contact at Elecraft for this? I can probably make this
 happen for Dayton, with Elecraft logo, if there is interest. 2012, 100%
 current (340 entities)

 Vasily
 k3it


 Buck k4ia wrote
 
  http://hamradiomap.qth.com/
 
  You'll have to add the Elecraft logo yourself
 
  Buck
  k4ia
 
 
  On 2/21/2012 3:18 AM, István Szabó wrote:
  Let's have it a price! I would buy one.
 
  István Szabó
 
 
 
  On 2/21/2012 4:46 AM, Gary K9GS wrote:
  An excellent idea!
 
  I can picture a problem though.  It's already nearly impossible to get
  near the front of the Elecraft booth at Dayton.  If they were handing
  out free maps you couldn't even get in the building.
 
  Maybe Elecraft could rent a portion of the flea market parking lot and
  set up a beer garden?  They could hand out maps there.  I volunteer for
  bar tending duties.  They could also set up an operating area to demo
  radios.
 
  Just thinking out loud...
 
  On 2/20/2012 4:27 PM, István Szabó wrote:
  My map is so obsolete, that there is USSR, East Germany and so on on
  it.
  It would be great to have an Elecraft map as the next one. Any source
  or
  plan?
 
  73'
 
  István Szabó
 
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Re: [Elecraft] P3SVGA

2012-03-30 Thread Dave New, N8SBE
The vertical frame rate also affects the horizontal rate.

Think of it this way -- if you have the same number of pixels (1920 x
1080) to paint in the same geometry, then doing it 60 times a second
instead of 58 times a second means that each horizontal line must be
painted faster, and therefore the individual pixel times are shorter
(the pixel clock rate is faster).

So, yes, changing the vertical refresh also affects the horizontal
timing, and could very well cause a monitor that can't adjust the pixel
clock to match to show a wrong-width display.

73,

-- Dave, N8SBE

  Original Message 
 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] P3SVGA
 From: Paul Saffren pa...@elecraft.com
 Date: Fri, March 30, 2012 2:21 pm
 To: Dave New, N8SBE n8...@arrl.net
 Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net


 Hi Dave,

 58 Hz is the vertical sync not the horizontal.  The horizontal sync
 seems to be the issue.

 73,

 Paul

 On 3/30/2012 11:07 AM, Dave New, N8SBE wrote:
  Seems that implementing 1920 x 1080 at 58 Hz, instead of 60 Hz, is at
  the root of the issue.
 
  Seems that there are a great number of monitors that don't grok the 58
  Hz stuff properly at that resolution.
 
  Have you hit a limit in the chip set such that you can't implement 1920
  x 1080 at 60 Hz?
 
  That would be a shame.
 
  73,
 
  -- Dave, N8SBE
 
   Original Message 
  Subject: Re: [Elecraft] P3SVGA
  From: Paul Saffren N6HZpa...@elecraft.com
  Date: Fri, March 30, 2012 11:56 am
  To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
 
 
  Hi Tom,
 
  We made the marker lines wider on the SVGA to be more visible given the
  greater resolution and number of pixels.  As you know, a 2048 FFT is
  performed on the SVGA, completely separate from the P3's FFT.  In fact the
  SVGA while very similar to the P3's display by design is not going to be a
  perfect duplicate.
 
  The extra settings within the SVGA menu, such as font size and waterfall
  color bias are set to be implemented on the next release of SVGA firmware.
  We found a significant problem in P3 version 1.12 and wanted to get v1.13
  out quickly.
 
  We're also investigating why a few monitors do not sync correctly at
  1920x1080.
 
  Would you please message me the steps you performed that locked up the
  P3SVGA?
 
  73,
 
  Paul
 
 
 
  N5GE-2 wrote
  SVGA setup here is 1440 x 900 Can't set the HP 2311x to 1920 x 1080
  because the
  right side of the image goes off the screen.
 
  Comments (mostly aesthetic)
  1. On the P3 screen Marker A and B cursors are the same width as the
  vertical
  tuning line.  On the VGA display they are at least 2 or three times the
  width of
  the tuning cursor.  The tuning lines and the cursors should be the same
  width on
  the SVGA screen as they are on the P3 display.
 
  2. The tick marks horizontal line at the bottom of the screen are shorter
  than
  the ones on the horizontal line at the top of the screen by a pixel or
  two.
 
  3. Setting the font size on the SVGA only changes the font size in the
  label at
  the top left of the display.  Example MKR A:
  3.524.00
  4. I like the fill below spectrum line feature.
 
  5. A few times while moving the A and B markers the screen on the SVGA
  locked
  up.  Turning the P3 off and on resets the problem.
 
  Thanks for all you guys do for us.
 
  Tom
 
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 won't shut off, turns on by itself

2013-02-12 Thread Dave New, N8SBE
Just a hunch, but if you have a KCR2, make sure it is powered if it is
connected to the AUX port.  A couple of weeks ago, I had unplugged the
power cable form the KCR2, and when the rig was powered on, it hung and
did all sorts of odd things, including not powering off in response to
the K3 front panel power switch.  After I pulled the AUX cable from the
KCR2, things started working again.

Nowadays, I ensure the KCR2 is either not on the AUX bus, or is powered
up when the K3 is powered up.

Hope that helps,

73,

-- Dave, N8SBE

  Original Message 
 Subject: [Elecraft] K3 won't shut off, turns on by itself
 From: k...@juno.com k...@juno.com
 Date: Sat, January 05, 2013 9:58 am
 To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
 
 
 Please help. Last night my K3 worked perfectly. Power supply voltage 14volts 
 and 
 always shut off after rig.  This morning, turned on power supply, k3 turns on 
 by itself. 
 Pushing the power button only blanks the screen, display backlighting stays 
 on.  What can 
 cause this, tried unplugging everything then repeating, same result.  Please 
 help, love 
 the rig. Serial 4548.   Looking forward to your reply, Coy K3FO
 
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Re: [Elecraft] No resopnse on config menu

2013-02-12 Thread Dave New, N8SBE
Try unplugging all AUX and RS-232 cables from the back of the K3.  I've
had computer programs that were accessing the K3 'hang' and then you
couldn't manipulate the menu system from the front panel, until I
unplugged the offending cable(s).

Resetting whatever external box/computer is misbehaving fixes that
particular failure mode.

Your mileage may vary.

73,

-- Dave, N8SBE

  Original Message 
 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] No resopnse on config menu
 From: Don Wilhelm w3...@embarqmail.com
 Date: Sat, January 05, 2013 10:54 am
 To: Lars Midtboe lmidt...@yahoo.no
 Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net


 Lars,

 Sorry, but you did not initially indicate that it was working previously.

 My first guess is that your VFO B encoder has failed.  You could make a
 test by removing the Front Panel and swapping the encoders between A and
 B.  That step would verify that the problem is in fact the encoder.

 73,
 Don W3FPR

 On 1/5/2013 10:39 AM, Lars Midtboe wrote:
  Yahh but nothing happen when rotating vfo-bi have this k3 for sverals
  years soo i dont know what happen here??
 
  Any sggestions??
  All buttons are working and i tru reset with shift/power on reloaded older
  fw...nehhh no sesponse..
 
 

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Re: [Elecraft] P3 generates noise on 144MHz

2013-02-18 Thread Dave New, N8SBE
Roger saith:

When I had the I/O printed circuit board out of the case, I noticed
that the earth planes for the power supply section and RS232 section are
separated by a zig zag gap.

Ouch! That indicates that whoever laid out the board had no idea that
'gapping' the board is a BAD IDEA(tm).

Please, whoever was responsible for laying out the I/O board for the P3,
go to this site, and learn what REALLY has to be done to properly design
PC boards for EMC:

http://www.learnemc.com/index.html

I attended a whirlwind 4-hour course on automotive EMC at last year's
Freescale Technology Forum that was a very compressed version of the
2-day courses shown on the LearnEMC home page, and it was a real
eye-opener.  If there is anything critical as a take away from that
experience, it was that the PCB layout will make-or-break your EMC
issues, and is the best and most cost-effective way to stop EMC issues,
rather than trying to use ferrites, etc. after the fact, all of which
will never be as effective.

If you can't do the two-day course (highly recommended) there are free
extensive tutorials to be found at the EMC Tutorials link on the main
page:

http://www.learnemc.com/EMC-Tutorials.html

It's all good stuff, and should be mandatory learning for anyone laying
out PC boards these days.

73,

-- Dave, N8SBE

  Original Message 
 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] P3 generates noise on 144MHz
 From: Roger Crofts ro...@monitorsensors.com
 Date: Tue, February 12, 2013 6:02 pm
 To: elecraft reflector elecraft@mailman.qth.net


 Last night I cleaned all mating metal surfaces in the P3 but, alas, this made 
 no difference. The noise was still at S6.
 When I had the I/O printed circuit board out of the case, I noticed that the 
 earth planes for the power supply section and RS232 section are separated by 
 a zig zag gap. They are commoned together towards the inner edge. This has 
 the effect of lengthening the route of RF currents from the earthy side of 
 C500 to the metal case. My thoughts are that C500 will do a great job of 
 removing RF differential mode voltages across the power cord. It will not do 
 such a good job of removing common mode RF voltages from the power cord. I 
 believe it is the common mode RF voltages that are the problem. This was 
 confirmed when I replaced the power cord with a coaxial one (as suggested by 
 John, G4ZTR). This made no difference to the noise.
 I found a ferrite ring which was large enough to pass the power plug through 
 it. In fact I passed the plug through it three times to form two tight turns 
 and I moved this choke as close as possible to the P3 power socket. The 
 result was that the noise dropped to S4. Almost there!  I think it would be 
 better if the filter was totally inside the P3 case. I will try that next.

 Roger Crofts, VK4YB
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Re: [Elecraft] P3 generates noise on 144MHz

2013-02-18 Thread Dave New, N8SBE
The point is that splitting the ground planes in an attempt to isolate
them, often makes the situation the PCB designer thought they were
fixing much worse.  It's a case of knowing where the actual return paths
are, and minimizing the length of those return paths.  The other half of
the EMC equation is proper loading of signal lines, to shape the edges,
and suppress ringing.  It is far more effective to put series 'ballast'
resistors in the signal lines, rather than try to suppress EMC with
capacitors across the lines to ground.

Please refer to the posted EMC tutorial links I posted below for
graphics/explanations.

Designing for EMC is not a easy chore, but starting with a bad PCB
design will make it almost impossible to suppress systems issues that
may crop up after the layout is 'frozen' and the unit is headed for
production.  At that point, trying to fix the issues with shielding
and/or ferrite cores is very expensive, and often doesn't produce the
desired results.  Nothing short of re-laying out the offending PCB will
suffice in the majority of cases.

73,

-- Dave, N8SBE

  Original Message 
 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] P3 generates noise on 144MHz
 From: hawley, charles j jr c-haw...@illinois.edu
 Date: Mon, February 18, 2013 1:08 pm
 To: Dave New, N8SBE n8...@arrl.net
 Cc: Roger Crofts ro...@monitorsensors.com,elecraft reflector
 elecraft@mailman.qth.net


 What does the zig zag gap look like and what is the issue with it? Or...how 
 does it contribute to the noise?
 Thanks,

 Sent from my iPad
 Chuck, KE9UW
 (Jack for BMW motorcycles)

 On Feb 18, 2013, at 11:42 AM, Dave New, N8SBE n8...@arrl.net wrote:

  Roger saith:
 
  When I had the I/O printed circuit board out of the case, I noticed
  that the earth planes for the power supply section and RS232 section are
  separated by a zig zag gap.
 
  Ouch! That indicates that whoever laid out the board had no idea that
  'gapping' the board is a BAD IDEA(tm).
 
  Please, whoever was responsible for laying out the I/O board for the P3,
  go to this site, and learn what REALLY has to be done to properly design
  PC boards for EMC:
 
  http://www.learnemc.com/index.html
 
  I attended a whirlwind 4-hour course on automotive EMC at last year's
  Freescale Technology Forum that was a very compressed version of the
  2-day courses shown on the LearnEMC home page, and it was a real
  eye-opener.  If there is anything critical as a take away from that
  experience, it was that the PCB layout will make-or-break your EMC
  issues, and is the best and most cost-effective way to stop EMC issues,
  rather than trying to use ferrites, etc. after the fact, all of which
  will never be as effective.
 
  If you can't do the two-day course (highly recommended) there are free
  extensive tutorials to be found at the EMC Tutorials link on the main
  page:
 
  http://www.learnemc.com/EMC-Tutorials.html
 
  It's all good stuff, and should be mandatory learning for anyone laying
  out PC boards these days.
 
  73,
 
  -- Dave, N8SBE
 
   Original Message 
  Subject: Re: [Elecraft] P3 generates noise on 144MHz
  From: Roger Crofts ro...@monitorsensors.com
  Date: Tue, February 12, 2013 6:02 pm
  To: elecraft reflector elecraft@mailman.qth.net
 
 
  Last night I cleaned all mating metal surfaces in the P3 but, alas, this 
  made no difference. The noise was still at S6.
  When I had the I/O printed circuit board out of the case, I noticed that 
  the earth planes for the power supply section and RS232 section are 
  separated by a zig zag gap. They are commoned together towards the inner 
  edge. This has the effect of lengthening the route of RF currents from the 
  earthy side of C500 to the metal case. My thoughts are that C500 will do a 
  great job of removing RF differential mode voltages across the power cord. 
  It will not do such a good job of removing common mode RF voltages from 
  the power cord. I believe it is the common mode RF voltages that are the 
  problem. This was confirmed when I replaced the power cord with a coaxial 
  one (as suggested by John, G4ZTR). This made no difference to the noise.
  I found a ferrite ring which was large enough to pass the power plug 
  through it. In fact I passed the plug through it three times to form two 
  tight turns and I moved this choke as close as possible to the P3 power 
  socket. The result was that the noise dropped to S4. Almost there!  I 
  think it would be better if the filter was totally inside the P3 case. I 
  will try that next.
 
  Roger Crofts, VK4YB
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[Elecraft] Google Calendar UTC time issues -- solution [was: RE: Elecraft SSB Net announcement]

2013-04-21 Thread Dave New, N8SBE
Interesting hint to those that use Google Calendar to keep track of net
times, etc.

I had put these times on my calendar in what I thought was UTC, but it
turns out that 'London' time GMT+00 observes daylight savings time, thus
throwing the calendar off by one hour if you live in a local time zone
that also shifts for daylight time.

There are two solutions:

1) Either choose Iceland as the country, and then you call select
GMT+00 (No Daylight Savings) in the pull-down, or

2) Go to your settings page (under the little gear icon pull down, and
add a calendar (pick show all calendars), and choose GMT+00 (No Daylight
Time) in the pull down.  Then it will always show up as a pick when you
are choosing time zones for a calendar entry, without having to dig
through the Iceland time zone picks.

I've struggled the past year or so with re-doing all my net reminders
every seasonal daylight change, until I just got fed up with it today
and did a Google search and found a forum posting explaining how to deal
with it properly.

Now, hopefully I'll be reminded at the right time for the Elecraft net,
instead of showing up an hour early (like today) or an hour late.

73,

-- Dave, N8SBE

  Original Message 
 Subject: [Elecraft] Elecraft SSB Net announcement
 From: Phil Shepard ph...@riousa.com
 Date: Sat, April 20, 2013 10:55 pm
 To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net elecraft@mailman.qth.net


 The weekly Elecraft SSB net will meet tomorrow (4/21/13) at 1800Z on 14.3035
 MHz +/- QRM. I will be the net control from western Oregon. See you there.

 Phil, NS7P

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Re: [Elecraft] P3 Noise signature

2013-04-30 Thread Dave New, N8SBE
If it's not found to be a TV monitor with an approximate 40 kHz
horizontal sweep rate, then the next most likely will be a switching
power supply that runs at 40 kHz, rich in harmonics.  I'd look for LED
lighting that comes on in the evening, like under-cabinet kitchen
lighting, or low-voltage yard lights.  I had a couple of light sensor
sockets in my front and back porch lights that were radiating when the
lights came on automatically in the evening.  Also found an automatic
coffee maker making a racket, and a switching power supply in a laser
printer.

You may be able to isolate it to something in your house by turning off
circuit breakers in your electrical panel one at a time (or if you like
to split the dictionary faster, do one-half at a time, and then cut that
in half again, and again).  Once you know the circuit, then you can
start unplugging or turning things off or on.  Having a handheld radio
that picks up the noise will be helpful.

Hope that helps,

-- Dave, N8SBE

  Original Message 
 Subject: [Elecraft] P3 Noise signature
 From: Fred Jensen k6...@foothill.net
 Date: Mon, April 29, 2013 10:17 pm
 To: Elecraft Reflector elecraft@mailman.qth.net


 I usually check into the No Cal Net on 3533 each night.  I've begun to
 get predictable noise with a unique signature on the P3 WF.  It's a
 series of bands, the first [around 3545] is the widest, they get
 narrower up from that and the separation seems to be about 40 KHz.  The
 higher components get narrower but aren't any weaker.

 Occasionally I've see it come on to an otherwise quiet band, and all the
 bands on the WF drift some before stabilizing.

 I have a screen shot from the P3 I'll send, anyone have any idea what
 this is?  I never see it in the daytime on any band, just in the
 evening, which is suspicious ... plasma TV?

 If it's my neighbor Casey, I'll just need to live with it, we don't do
 battle with our neighbors.  Besides, Sampson, their cat, gets along with
 ours and shares his food.

 73,

 Fred K6DGW
 - Northern California Contest Club
 - CU in the 2013 Cal QSO Party 5-6 Oct 2013
 - www.cqp.org

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[Elecraft] W8UM/ARROW Joint Field Day Effort

2013-06-20 Thread Dave New, N8SBE
The University of Michigan ARC and the Washtenaw County ARROW
Communication
Association will jointly operate Field Day again this year as
Class 4A at Domino's Farms, Domino's World Headquarters, Ann Arbor, MI.

All stations, except the GOTA station, will use the UMARC call sign
W8UM.

We will use K3's/P3's as 3 of our 4 HF stations this year (still working
on converting that last station!)

Our GOTA station will be using the ARROW club call sign W8PGW.

We will be QRV 80m-2m, SSB/CW.

73,

-- Dave, N8SBE, K3 #3104


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Re: [Elecraft] WSPR

2011-07-26 Thread Dave New, N8SBE
Shouldn't be, since the special authorization for 600 meters expired in
the US at the end of 2010.

A shame, too, since I was the lucky(?) winner of the 600m transverter
kit at the 2011 FDIM.

I ended up doing some swapping with the rep and got a dual band 40 and
20 meter receiver kit, instead.

73,

-- Dave, N8SBE

  Original Message 
 Subject: [Elecraft] WSPR
 From: Ken Roberson kwrober...@yahoo.com
 Date: Tue, July 26, 2011 3:15 pm
 To: Elecraft Elecraft elecraft@mailman.qth.net


 Hello All,

 Is there any WSPR stations transmitting on 500 KHZ ( 600 Meters )
 in the lower 48 states ?

 Thanks to All
 Ken K5DNL
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Re: [Elecraft] WSPR

2011-07-26 Thread Dave New, N8SBE
Sorry, that's 80 and 40 meters (not 40 and 20).  The kits were from
JUMA.  I note on their web page, that after Jul 31 of this year, they
will lose their distributor of kits, and so they not be available
anymore.  If you enjoy (?!) soldering surface mount, this may be your
last chance for a while to pick up some nice QRP kits.

Sorry for the commercial nature of the message.  I'm not tied to these
folks in any way, other than having a (still unassembled) receiver kit.

73,

-- Dave, N8SBE

  Original Message 
 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] WSPR
 From: Dave New, N8SBE n8...@arrl.net
 Date: Tue, July 26, 2011 4:10 pm
 To: Ken Roberson kwrober...@yahoo.com
 Cc: Elecraft Elecraft elecraft@mailman.qth.net


 Shouldn't be, since the special authorization for 600 meters expired in
 the US at the end of 2010.

 A shame, too, since I was the lucky(?) winner of the 600m transverter
 kit at the 2011 FDIM.

 I ended up doing some swapping with the rep and got a dual band 40 and
 20 meter receiver kit, instead.

 73,

 -- Dave, N8SBE

   Original Message 
  Subject: [Elecraft] WSPR
  From: Ken Roberson kwrober...@yahoo.com
  Date: Tue, July 26, 2011 3:15 pm
  To: Elecraft Elecraft elecraft@mailman.qth.net
 
 
  Hello All,
 
  Is there any WSPR stations transmitting on 500 KHZ ( 600 Meters )
  in the lower 48 states ?
 
  Thanks to All
  Ken K5DNL
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[Elecraft] Detroit Maker Faire July 30/31 Elecraft K3/P3 demo

2011-07-29 Thread Dave New, N8SBE
I'll be at the Detroit Maker Faire this weekend at the Henry Ford
Museum, in a joint effort of the Ford Amateur Radio League (FARL), the
Livonia Amateur Radio Club (LARC) and the Washtenaw (ARROW) club,
running special callsign N8M.

I'll be bringing my K3/P3 (both built from kits) to show off and make
some contacts, likely on 40 and 20 meters.  I'll also be running
'pedestrian' mobile with my Yaesu FT-817 (maybe next year it will be a
KX3!), wandering around the exhibit area.

Look for us either on the air, or if you are in the area, come see us in
person.  We will be in the museum courtyard, along with the model
rocketry exhibit.

Here's a link to the Detroit Maker Faire site, for more information:

http://makerfaire.com/detroit/2011/

73,

-- Dave, N8SBE

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 - dual mikes at same time - biased and un-biased?

2011-09-07 Thread Dave New, N8SBE
I have the hand mic on the front, and the Heil HC-4 set on the back, so
one takes bias, and the other doesn't.  Also, one takes hi gain, the
other doesn't.

I find that when I switch from front to rear and back, my K3 remembers
the gain, but not the bias.  I have to remember to change the bias,
also.

Is there a way to tell the K3 via some config menu to remember the bias
setting, also, so when I switch from front to rear and back, the bias
AND the gain switch also?

73,

-- Dave, N8SBE

  Original Message 
 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 - dual mikes at same time - biased and
 un-biased?
 From: Bob - W6OPO bob.w6...@gmail.com
 Date: Tue, August 16, 2011 6:15 pm
 To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net


 I programed a soft key (XIT) to bring up the mic selection.  So I hold XIT
 then tap #1 and/or #2 = Done.

 The #1 switches between front and rear jacks and #2 turns bias on/off.  I
 consider that fast - for me.

 73,

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Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Is there a KRC3 in the works?

2011-10-14 Thread Dave New, N8SBE
Don't hold your breath.  I've been waiting literally for years to get
the configuration code fixed.  Apparently because it works for some
folk, then it must be my fault I haven't been able to get it to work on
no less then three different computers, some with real serial ports.

I need to program it to drive a 3 of 8 encoded Ameritron head.  I
ordered just the head figuring that I didn't need their control box. 
I'm about to order the Ameritron control box now, because it will accept
1 of 8 from an external box (which the KRC2 does normally) and encode it
into 3 of 8 for the remote head.  As a bonus, it will allow me to
manually select the antenna, if needed.

I have to say that my experience with the KRC2 is the only really
negative experience I've had with Elecraft gear.  Everything else I've
gotten from them has run just fine, and I've gotten superb support.  The
KRC2 is the only glaring exception, and I suppose I'll just have to
chalk it up to an old kit that simply isn't on the company's radar any
more for proper after-sales support.  If they no longer want to spend
the manpower on it any more, they should officially retire it.

73,

-- Dave, N8SBE

  Original Message 
 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Is there a KRC3 in the works?
 From: Roger D Johnson n...@roadrunner.com
 Date: Thu, October 06, 2011 1:07 pm
 To: Larry K1UO k...@uninet.net
 Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net


 I just built the KRC2 and it supports 60m. Unfortunately, the software is 
 buggy and
 won't talk to the KRC2 for programming! I'm going to send it back if I can't 
 get it
 running soon.

 73, Roger


 On 10/5/2011 5:48 PM, Larry K1UO wrote:
 I believe a KRC-3 Band decoder than is fully compatible with the K3 is 
  now
  in order? :-)   Its getting so that half the available Band decoders (or
  more)do not support 6M or even 60 meters for that matter and those that do
  lack provision for manual band selection so if something happens with the pc
  or serial port one cannot even change antennas.  The software and
  documentation seem to have not fully caught up to use the KRC2 with a K3 and
  various remote relay switch boxes.
 
  Just thinking out loud.
  73
  Larry  k1UO
 
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Re: [Elecraft] [K3] [KRC2] Is there a KRC3 in the works?

2011-10-14 Thread Dave New, N8SBE
To be clear, I have no issues with interfacing the KRC2 with external
devices.

The only issue I've had is using the Windows-based program provided on
the Elecraft web site to attempt to configure the behavior of the KRC2. 
It always fails to connect to the KRC2, no matter what settings I try,
on both the KRC2 and the computer, including using two different
varieties of USB to serial cables (both of which work with all my other
equipment, including the K3 and P3), and a laptop from work that has a
real serial port.

On the other hand, the re-flash program works just dandy.  I can
re-flash the KRC2 at will, over and over again, ad infitum, ad nauseum. 
So, I don't think the problem lies in the computer to KRC2 interface. 
I've been tempted to reverse-compile the KRC2 code file, which is rather
small, so I could just patch the configuration table in the flash image,
recompute the checksum and re-flash.  Maybe if I wasn't putting in 50+
hours a week at my day job, and about 15 hours commuting a week on top
of that, I'd feel like I had more time to spend on such a fascinating
adventure.  I have 30+ years embedded software development experience,
so it really wouldn't be all that hard for me.

As it is, I'd rather spend what spare time I have building my station
and operating, instead of debugging the KRC2 configuration software.

73,

-- Dave, N8SBE

P.S. Everyone at Elecraft has been really nice when I talk to them about
my KRC2 issues, and offer to help, then it just seems to fall into a
black hole.  It seems to me that the KRC2 support is really just not on
anyone's priority list.  I guess that would be fine with me, and I could
just go about figuring out how to work around it.

  Original Message 
 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Is there a KRC3 in the works?
 From: W0MU Mike Fatchett w...@w0mu.com
 Date: Fri, October 14, 2011 1:25 pm
 To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net


 I have had issues with my KRC2 much of it is the poor operations manual
 and interfacing to the K3.  Jack at Elecraft and Gary have been great to
 work with.  Many of my problems appear to have been from jumper issues.
 The documentation needs some major work in the way of examples of how to
 hook up the unit to other devices etc.

 I had issues with the Array Solutions band decoders and Don, Jack and
 Gary were all very helpful in solving them.  There are many answers due
 to the fact that there are absolutely no standards when it comes to
 devices such as bandpass filters etc.  Some companies put pull up
 resistors in their devices others do not.

 If you want a device that can control your bandpass filters and multiple
 antenna boxes look at the Microham Station Master.  It gathers band data
 from the Aux line and looks pretty slick.  If I needed a box that did
 more than just drive my bandpass filters I would own one!

 Mike W0MU

 J6/W0MU November 21 - December 1 2011 CQ WW DX CW
 W0MU-1 CC Cluster w0mu.net


 On 10/14/2011 10:26 AM, Dave New, N8SBE wrote:
  Don't hold your breath.  I've been waiting literally for years to get
  the configuration code fixed.  Apparently because it works for some
  folk, then it must be my fault I haven't been able to get it to work on
  no less then three different computers, some with real serial ports.
 
  I need to program it to drive a 3 of 8 encoded Ameritron head.  I
  ordered just the head figuring that I didn't need their control box.
  I'm about to order the Ameritron control box now, because it will accept
  1 of 8 from an external box (which the KRC2 does normally) and encode it
  into 3 of 8 for the remote head.  As a bonus, it will allow me to
  manually select the antenna, if needed.
 
  I have to say that my experience with the KRC2 is the only really
  negative experience I've had with Elecraft gear.  Everything else I've
  gotten from them has run just fine, and I've gotten superb support.  The
  KRC2 is the only glaring exception, and I suppose I'll just have to
  chalk it up to an old kit that simply isn't on the company's radar any
  more for proper after-sales support.  If they no longer want to spend
  the manpower on it any more, they should officially retire it.
 
  73,
 
  -- Dave, N8SBE
 
   Original Message 
  Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Is there a KRC3 in the works?
  From: Roger D Johnsonn...@roadrunner.com
  Date: Thu, October 06, 2011 1:07 pm
  To: Larry K1UOk...@uninet.net
  Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
 
 
  I just built the KRC2 and it supports 60m. Unfortunately, the software is 
  buggy and
  won't talk to the KRC2 for programming! I'm going to send it back if I 
  can't get it
  running soon.
 
  73, Roger
 
 
  On 10/5/2011 5:48 PM, Larry K1UO wrote:
  I believe a KRC-3 Band decoder than is fully compatible with the K3 
  is now
  in order? :-)   Its getting so that half the available Band decoders (or
  more)do not support 6M or even 60 meters for that matter and those that do
  lack provision for manual band selection so

Re: [Elecraft] [K3]_[KRC2]_Is_there_a_KRC3_in_the_w orks?

2011-10-14 Thread Dave New, N8SBE
Let me pendantic here.  The configuration program connects to the KRC2
when the program is started, but when I press the 'Send to KRC2' button,
it shows an error message saying it cannot connect.

I beleive this is the same behavior that some other on the mail list
have seen.

In all cases, I'm using a variant of Windows XP, either Personal or
Professional.  The config program fails to update the KRC2 on all three
of the XP machines I've tried, but in all cases, I can use the download
program to re-flash the KRC2.

73,

-- Dave, N8SBE

  Original Message 
 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [K3]_[KRC2]_Is_there_a_KRC3_in_the_w orks?
 From: Dave New, N8SBE n8...@arrl.net
 Date: Fri, October 14, 2011 2:25 pm
 To: W0MU Mike Fatchett w...@w0mu.com
 Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
 
 
 To be clear, I have no issues with interfacing the KRC2 with external
 devices.
 
 The only issue I've had is using the Windows-based program provided on
 the Elecraft web site to attempt to configure the behavior of the KRC2. 
 It always fails to connect to the KRC2, no matter what settings I try,
 on both the KRC2 and the computer, including using two different
 varieties of USB to serial cables (both of which work with all my other
 equipment, including the K3 and P3), and a laptop from work that has a
 real serial port.
 
 On the other hand, the re-flash program works just dandy.  I can
 re-flash the KRC2 at will, over and over again, ad infitum, ad nauseum. 
 So, I don't think the problem lies in the computer to KRC2 interface. 
 I've been tempted to reverse-compile the KRC2 code file, which is rather
 small, so I could just patch the configuration table in the flash image,
 recompute the checksum and re-flash.  Maybe if I wasn't putting in 50+
 hours a week at my day job, and about 15 hours commuting a week on top
 of that, I'd feel like I had more time to spend on such a fascinating
 adventure.  I have 30+ years embedded software development experience,
 so it really wouldn't be all that hard for me.
 
 As it is, I'd rather spend what spare time I have building my station
 and operating, instead of debugging the KRC2 configuration software.
 
 73,
 
 -- Dave, N8SBE
 
 P.S. Everyone at Elecraft has been really nice when I talk to them about
 my KRC2 issues, and offer to help, then it just seems to fall into a
 black hole.  It seems to me that the KRC2 support is really just not on
 anyone's priority list.  I guess that would be fine with me, and I could
 just go about figuring out how to work around it.
 
   Original Message 
  Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Is there a KRC3 in the works?
  From: W0MU Mike Fatchett w...@w0mu.com
  Date: Fri, October 14, 2011 1:25 pm
  To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
 
 
  I have had issues with my KRC2 much of it is the poor operations manual
  and interfacing to the K3.  Jack at Elecraft and Gary have been great to
  work with.  Many of my problems appear to have been from jumper issues.
  The documentation needs some major work in the way of examples of how to
  hook up the unit to other devices etc.
 
  I had issues with the Array Solutions band decoders and Don, Jack and
  Gary were all very helpful in solving them.  There are many answers due
  to the fact that there are absolutely no standards when it comes to
  devices such as bandpass filters etc.  Some companies put pull up
  resistors in their devices others do not.
 
  If you want a device that can control your bandpass filters and multiple
  antenna boxes look at the Microham Station Master.  It gathers band data
  from the Aux line and looks pretty slick.  If I needed a box that did
  more than just drive my bandpass filters I would own one!
 
  Mike W0MU
 
  J6/W0MU November 21 - December 1 2011 CQ WW DX CW
  W0MU-1 CC Cluster w0mu.net
 
 
  On 10/14/2011 10:26 AM, Dave New, N8SBE wrote:
   Don't hold your breath.  I've been waiting literally for years to get
   the configuration code fixed.  Apparently because it works for some
   folk, then it must be my fault I haven't been able to get it to work on
   no less then three different computers, some with real serial ports.
  
   I need to program it to drive a 3 of 8 encoded Ameritron head.  I
   ordered just the head figuring that I didn't need their control box.
   I'm about to order the Ameritron control box now, because it will accept
   1 of 8 from an external box (which the KRC2 does normally) and encode it
   into 3 of 8 for the remote head.  As a bonus, it will allow me to
   manually select the antenna, if needed.
  
   I have to say that my experience with the KRC2 is the only really
   negative experience I've had with Elecraft gear.  Everything else I've
   gotten from them has run just fine, and I've gotten superb support.  The
   KRC2 is the only glaring exception, and I suppose I'll just have to
   chalk it up to an old kit that simply isn't on the company's radar any
   more for proper after-sales support.  If they no longer want to spend

Re: [Elecraft] [K3]_[KRC2]_Is_there_a_KRC3_in_the_w orks?

2011-10-14 Thread Dave New, N8SBE
Thanks, Wayne.

Like I said, everyone at Elecraft has been super nice about this, but as
you say, priorities seem to be getting in the way of having someone look
into this.

Growing pains, I suppose.  I appreciate you taking time from Pacificon
to contact me.

73,

-- Dave, N8SBE

  Original Message 
 Subject: Re:  [K3]_[KRC2]_Is_there_a_KRC3_in_the_w orks?
 From: Wayne Burdick n...@elecraft.com
 Date: Fri, October 14, 2011 3:01 pm
 To: Dave New, N8SBE n8...@arrl.net
 Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net


 Sorry, Dave, the program was written in Visual Basic for an earlier PC
 OS. Seems to work under XP in some but not all cases.

 We're trying to line up a resource to update it. Everyone seems to be
 working on the K3, or the KX3, or the KAT500, or... well, let's just
 leave it at or.

 73,
 Wayne
 N6KR


 On Oct 14, 2011, at 11:52 AM, Dave New, N8SBE wrote:

  Let me pendantic here.  The configuration program connects to the KRC2
  when the program is started, but when I press the 'Send to KRC2'
  button,
  it shows an error message saying it cannot connect.
 
  I beleive this is the same behavior that some other on the mail list
  have seen.
 
  In all cases, I'm using a variant of Windows XP, either Personal or
  Professional.  The config program fails to update the KRC2 on all
  three
  of the XP machines I've tried, but in all cases, I can use the
  download
  program to re-flash the KRC2.
 
  73,
 
  -- Dave, N8SBE

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Re: [Elecraft] [K3]_[KRC2]_Is_there_a_KRC3_in_th e_w orks?

2011-10-14 Thread Dave New, N8SBE
Maybe some XP service pack changed a DLL that the program was dependent
on.

As a lark, I might try loading a 'donor' PC with an original unpatched
XP, to see if that works.

73,

-- Dave, N8SBE

  Original Message 
 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [K3]_[KRC2]_Is_there_a_KRC3_in_th e_w orks?
 From: Dave New, N8SBE n8...@arrl.net
 Date: Fri, October 14, 2011 3:12 pm
 To: Wayne Burdick n...@elecraft.com
 Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net


 Thanks, Wayne.

 Like I said, everyone at Elecraft has been super nice about this, but as
 you say, priorities seem to be getting in the way of having someone look
 into this.

 Growing pains, I suppose.  I appreciate you taking time from Pacificon
 to contact me.

 73,

 -- Dave, N8SBE

   Original Message 
  Subject: Re:  [K3]_[KRC2]_Is_there_a_KRC3_in_the_w orks?
  From: Wayne Burdick n...@elecraft.com
  Date: Fri, October 14, 2011 3:01 pm
  To: Dave New, N8SBE n8...@arrl.net
  Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
 
 
  Sorry, Dave, the program was written in Visual Basic for an earlier PC
  OS. Seems to work under XP in some but not all cases.
 
  We're trying to line up a resource to update it. Everyone seems to be
  working on the K3, or the KX3, or the KAT500, or... well, let's just
  leave it at or.
 
  73,
  Wayne
  N6KR
 
 
  On Oct 14, 2011, at 11:52 AM, Dave New, N8SBE wrote:
 
   Let me pendantic here.  The configuration program connects to the KRC2
   when the program is started, but when I press the 'Send to KRC2'
   button,
   it shows an error message saying it cannot connect.
  
   I beleive this is the same behavior that some other on the mail list
   have seen.
  
   In all cases, I'm using a variant of Windows XP, either Personal or
   Professional.  The config program fails to update the KRC2 on all
   three
   of the XP machines I've tried, but in all cases, I can use the
   download
   program to re-flash the KRC2.
  
   73,
  
   -- Dave, N8SBE

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Re: [Elecraft] New product opportunity

2011-11-23 Thread Dave New, N8SBE
I think we already had our hint, when it was mentioned that the KAT500
was the same height as the W2.

1.5 high station monitor, anyone?

To REALLY put the nail in the coffin (Yaesu, cough, cough) it could have
stereo speakers (ducks boat anchors lobbed at him).

73,

-- Dave, N8SBE

  Original Message 
 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] New product opportunity
 From: Jim Rhodes jimk...@gmail.com
 Date: Wed, November 23, 2011 8:36 am
 To: Ian Maude i...@gb7mbc.net
 Cc: Elecraft List elecraft@mailman.qth.net


 Or even a KAT500 size box so I could build my own switch box.

 Jim K0XU Sent from my Xoom tablet
 On Nov 23, 2011 2:45 AM, Ian Maude i...@gb7mbc.net wrote:

  With the upcoming release of the KAT500, I was thinking that the K-line
  would look slightly asymmetrical with the tuner sat on top of either the K3
  or the Amp.  So, how about a matching unit to the KAT500 to balance it all
  up?  It could house a series of forward facing buttons which could be band
  stacking registers, extra macro keys etc?  How about it guys?
 
  73 Ian
  --
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  SysOp GB7MBC  HB9DRV-9 DX Clusters
  Member RSGB, GQRP 9838, FISTS 14077 | K3 #455
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 and KSYN3A in FD

2015-06-29 Thread Dave New, N8SBE

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Re: [Elecraft] Linked VFO's -- usage?

2015-08-01 Thread Dave New, N8SBE
Operating split on 10M on the FM repeaters.

 Original Message 
Subject: [Elecraft] Linked VFO's -- usage?
From: Cady, Fred fc...@ece.montana.edu
Date: Sat, August 01, 2015 4:05 pm
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net elecraft@mailman.qth.net

Hi All,
In the current K3 firmware (going back a few versions) you can link VFO
A and B with the CONFIG:VFO LNK menu. You used to get them linked by
holding SUB, but now that turns on diversity. A good change. Linked VFOs
is not diversity, in which VFO A controls the main and sub receivers
independently of VFO B. In linked mode the two receivers remain
independently controlled by their own VFOs but when you tune VFO A, VFO
B tracks along. Tuning VFO B doesn't change VFO A.

So, I'm wondering what others are using linked VFOs for?

Cheers and 73,
Fred KE7X

Author of:
The Elecraft K3: Design, Configuration and Operation 2nd ed
The Elecraft KX3 - Going for the summit
The Elecraft KPA500 and KAT500 - the K-Line Dream Station
Printed, coil bound copies of these are all available at
www.elecraft.com
KPA500 and KAT500 Quick Set Up Guide
http://www.ke7x.com/home/k-line-introduction-and-set-up-guide

KAT500 and KXPA500 Tuner Operation
http://www.ke7x.com/home/kat500-and-kxpa100-tuners

The Elecraft KXPA100, PX3 and 2M/4M Transverters - Assembling the
KX3-Line Station available at www.lulu.com.

The Elecraft K3S and P3 and a 3rd Edition of the K3 book with K3S
upgrade parts are works in progress.

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Re: [Elecraft] K3_no_xmit,_no_receive? FIXED! (for now)

2015-08-01 Thread Dave New, N8SBE
OK, I took the top cover off on the bench, and wiggled some of the TMP
connectors on the new synth boards, and viola!  Rx and Tx are back.

Unfortunately, I haven't been able to find which, if any, connector was
flakey, as additional wiggling now doesn't make the issue re-appear.

So, off to the NA QSO party I go, better late than never...

73,

-- Dave, N8SBE

 Original Message 
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3_no_xmit,_no_receive?
From: Dave New, N8SBE n8...@arrl.net
Date: Sat, August 01, 2015 4:38 pm
To: cx...@4email.net, elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Cc: k3supp...@elecraft.com

Did you ever solve this?

My K3 just died, after being left on overnight. It was working fine
last evening, and this afternoon, I came down to the shack to start the
NA QSO party CW contest, and no receive, no transmit.

I've tried a number of things, including re-loading all the firmware,
with the requisite reboots, and restoring the configuration file I had
saved just before I took the rig out to W8UM field day. During Field
Day, we started getting ERR 12V errors, and the rig started
spontaneously shutting down, coming up in low power (less than 10W). We
had to finish operating the weekend at the 10 W level. Later, I
discovered that the rig was suffering from the dreaded tin-plated
connector issue, so I ordered the connector upgrade kit, and installed
it a couple of weeks ago. All seemed fine at that point, and we did use
the rig to make about 50 contacts (at full power) at the Detroit Maker
Faire N8M station last weekend.

So, here's what I know, so far:

1) When I change the filter/DSP controls, I can hear the receiver noise
change accordingly, so it seems that the receive chain is intact at
least from the crystal filters to the audio out.

2) I have the subreceiver installed, and I hear (don't hear?) the
identical things on it, so it seems likely that it is something that is
upstream to both the main and subreceiver, or something they both share
(like a mixer/oscillator).

3) I've tried all bands, and none of them are working, BUT

4) I can see signals on the P3 on all bands, so the signals are getting
at least to the IF takeout for the P3. I can see signals on ANT 1, ANT2
(I have the ATU), Rx ANT and on the XVTR IN with the KXV3 set to test
mode.

5) In all of these cases transmit shows 0 W out. The transmit audio
works on USB/LSB, showing ALC and compression readings on the meter.
With VOX on, the CW paddle switches the K3 into transmit mode, the TX
LED lights, and the CW decode shows the transmitted characters.

6) I tried to do an RF calibration with the K3 utility, and it seems to
complete, but the K3 displays E 0400E2 ERR DSE, and I have to power
down/up the radio to get rid of the error message. This might just be a
red herring, as I've read messages that indicate this could be an
overrun error or some other communications error when using the KUSB
adapter (which I'm using on a Windows 7 PC).

In summary, the K3 serial 3105 seems to behave completely normally,
including all controls and displays, except that I cannot hear signals
from the antenna, although they are displayed clearly on the P3, and
transmit power is nil.

Any suggestions would be most welcome.

73,

-- Dave, N8SBE

 Original Message 
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 no xmit, no receive?
From: cx...@4email.net
Date: Sat, May 30, 2015 11:08 am
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Cc: k3supp...@elecraft.com

Hola,

I was scheduled to operate my K3 as a remote for the WPX contest.
Problems with VPN at remote site delayed that setup. As contest time
approached, I decided to deploy my Buddipole out the apartment window
and was gonna play around with 100w and dipole config.on 15m.

However, I could not hear any signals, at all. Nothing but white noise
on all bands. The Buddipole ends in a BNC which I had connected to
adaptor for PL259. Tried Ant 1 and Ant 2 with no luck. Thinking adaptor
may be bad, I hook BNC to RX in but no sigs there.

 This morning, more troubleshooting, I discovered that there is no power
 out (although I was tricked as ATU was finding perfect SWR , HI).

K3 has not been used for over a year and when I brought it to HP, it was
inside my rollaboard so I had a watchful eye on it during the trip. The
only thing I can think of, is perhaps one or more of the circuit boards
was dislodged due to vibrations of rolling around the airport or within
the airplane(s) themselves. 9 hours on B767 then 3 on a
 B737.

Before I open up the K3 and start messing around inside. any suggestions
or tips on where I should start? I am thinking of pulling circuit boards
then resetting them, just in case one or more was 'jiggled' loose during
transport.

73 Tom HP1/K6CT aka CX7TT

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 no xmit, no receive?

2015-08-01 Thread Dave New, N8SBE
Did you ever solve this?

My K3 just died, after being left on overnight.  It was working fine
last evening, and this afternoon, I came down to the shack to start the
NA QSO party CW contest, and no receive, no transmit.

I've tried a number of things, including re-loading all the firmware,
with the requisite reboots, and restoring the configuration file I had
saved just before I took the rig out to W8UM field day.  During Field
Day, we started getting ERR 12V errors, and the rig started
spontaneously shutting down, coming up in low power (less than 10W).  We
had to finish operating the weekend at the 10 W level.  Later, I
discovered that the rig was suffering from the dreaded tin-plated
connector issue, so I ordered the connector upgrade kit, and installed
it a couple of weeks ago.  All seemed fine at that point, and we did use
the rig to make about 50 contacts (at full power) at the Detroit Maker
Faire N8M station last weekend.

So, here's what I know, so far:

1) When I change the filter/DSP controls, I can hear the receiver noise
change accordingly, so it seems that the receive chain is intact at
least from the crystal filters to the audio out.

2) I have the subreceiver installed, and I hear (don't hear?) the
identical things on it, so it seems likely that it is something that is
upstream to both the main and subreceiver, or something they both share
(like a mixer/oscillator).

3) I've tried all bands, and none of them are working, BUT

4) I can see signals on the P3 on all bands, so the signals are getting
at least to the IF takeout for the P3.  I can see signals on ANT 1, ANT2
(I have the ATU), Rx ANT and on the XVTR IN with the KXV3 set to test
mode.

5) In all of these cases transmit shows 0 W out.  The transmit audio
works on USB/LSB, showing ALC and compression readings on the meter. 
With VOX on, the CW paddle switches the K3 into transmit mode, the TX
LED lights, and the CW decode shows the transmitted characters.

6) I tried to do an RF calibration with the K3 utility, and it seems to
complete, but the K3 displays E 0400E2 ERR DSE, and I have to power
down/up the radio to get rid of the error message.  This might just be a
red herring, as I've read messages that indicate this could be an
overrun error or some other communications error when using the KUSB
adapter (which I'm using on a Windows 7 PC).

In summary, the K3 serial 3105 seems to behave completely normally,
including all controls and displays, except that I cannot hear signals
from the antenna, although they are displayed clearly on the P3, and
transmit power is nil.

Any suggestions would be most welcome.

73,

-- Dave, N8SBE

 Original Message 
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 no xmit, no receive?
From: cx...@4email.net
Date: Sat, May 30, 2015 11:08 am
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Cc: k3supp...@elecraft.com

Hola,

I was scheduled to operate my K3 as a remote for the WPX contest.
Problems with VPN at remote site delayed that setup. As contest time
approached, I decided to deploy my Buddipole out the apartment window
and was gonna play around with 100w and dipole config.on 15m.

However, I could not hear any signals, at all. Nothing but white noise
on all bands. The Buddipole ends in a BNC which I had connected to
adaptor for PL259. Tried Ant 1 and Ant 2 with no luck. Thinking adaptor
may be bad, I hook BNC to RX in but no sigs there.

 This morning, more troubleshooting, I discovered that there is no power
 out (although I was tricked as ATU was finding perfect SWR , HI).

K3 has not been used for over a year and when I brought it to HP, it was
inside my rollaboard so I had a watchful eye on it during the trip. The
only thing I can think of, is perhaps one or more of the circuit boards
was dislodged due to vibrations of rolling around the airport or within
the airplane(s) themselves. 9 hours on B767 then 3 on a
 B737.

Before I open up the K3 and start messing around inside. any suggestions
or tips on where I should start? I am thinking of pulling circuit boards
then resetting them, just in case one or more was 'jiggled' loose during
transport.

73 Tom HP1/K6CT aka CX7TT

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Re: [Elecraft] Additional KPA1500 amplifier information

2017-04-21 Thread Dave New, N8SBE

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Re: [Elecraft] Boldly OT: 6 meter Sporadic-E season and the FT-8 microjuggernaut

2018-07-26 Thread Dave New, N8SBE
There is an Android app, EsSense, which you can set to check spots that
mention 2m or 6m, and your locality.  It will run in the background on
your phone, and alarm you with sound and/or vibration when spots turn
up.  I've had it load on my phone for a while, but haven't played with
it much.

Anyone else have experience with this app, or similar ones?  I don't
know if this works on iPhones, or not.  Anyone know, if there is an
iPhone version, or a similar program for the iPhone folks?

I think I learned of this program in one of the QST Eclectic columns,
where they listed a bunch of ham radio apps for Android and iPhone.

73,

-- Dave, N8SBE
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Re: [Elecraft] KX2/KX3 operating tip: Creating a CW "sound stage" using AFX PITCH mode

2018-08-27 Thread Dave New, N8SBE
Wayne,

It would really be nice to be able to reverse the sense.

That way, as one tunes 'up the band', new signals appearing 'on the
right' (higher in frequency, but not necessarily in audio pitch,
depending on sideband setting) would appear in the right ear, and would
slide to the left based on the tuning speed.

In other words, instead of statically mapping low-to-high audio to
left-to-right ears, allow the user to reverse the mapping, so that it
matches the tuning 'sense'.

73,

-- Dave, N8SBE

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Re: [Elecraft] Vanity call question

2018-07-23 Thread Dave New, N8SBE
(sorry for the previous blank email -- I keep forgetting that this
mailing list strips out HTML-format text)

I was originally licensed in 1970 as a Novice in Murfreesboro, TN as
WN4SBE, which changed to WB4SBE when I upgraded to Advanced the
following year.


I kept WB4SBE for 30+ years, even after moving to Ann Arbor, MI in 1982.
 I finally got off my keyster and passed my 20 WPM Extra in the early
2000's, just before the FCC lowered the code requirement to 5 WPM for
all license classes, and eventually doing away with it altogether.


Armed with my newly-minted Extra, I figured it was high time to look
into a vanity call.  For one thing, I had been plagued in certain
contests with folks guessing my section as "Virginia?"  because of the 4
in the call sign.  Don't know why "Michigan" sounds so much like
"Virginia", but I figured that changing to an 8 would fix that.


I toyed with going with something like my initials (DN or DEN), but I
shied away from DN since that is too easily mistaken for "/", and I
think DEN was taken in all the short suffixes (W8, K8, N8) at the time.


So, I found that N8SBE was available, and I figured the 'locals' would
know who I was, based on just changing the prefix.  Anyway, "Side Band
Engineer" has a nice ring to it (as does "Subacute Bacterial
Endocarditis", a throat infection, as related to me by a doctor on 20m
phone one day), although I've found that on phone contests, "Sierra" is
frequently mistaken for "Kilo", and has resulted in busted QSO's (and
even more annoying, N8KBE is now found in the super partial check
database, even though that station has not been active in the contests).
 I've tried using "Sugar Bravo Echo" and had Spanish-speaking stations
correct me back to "Sierra Bravo Echo", so I guess you just can't win.


On CW, N8SBE has a really nice swing to it, with mostly alternating dahs
and dits in groups, helping to separate the characters.  What's really
funny though, is that the "BE" on the end is the same as the old
'knock/knock" that a a lot of old timers ended QSO's with, and I've
actually had folks respond to my callsign with "dit dit".  I don't know
if they are just letting me know that the frequency is busy, or if they
are just playing along with the joke.


All I know is that I've had a lot of fun on ham radio over the years
(coming up on 50 in 2020), and moving up to Elecraft (first a K3/P3 in
2009, and now K3s/P3 and KX2) has really enhanced my enjoyment of the
hobby.  Seems I'm discovering something new every day.  I made FT8
contacts for the first time recently, using DXpedition mode with the KH1
folks, and it was really nice knowing that they had just as nice of
radios on their end as mine.


Thanks, Elecraft.


73,


-- Dave, N8SBE
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Re: [Elecraft] SVGA for P3 - only looking for ten (10) replies (is that possible?)

2018-07-23 Thread Dave New, N8SBE
I think it unlikely that it could support spots easily, but I agree that
it would be very valuable to be able to use a mouse to click on signals
to QSY. I know the P3 has a turn 'n push knob, but mouse interaction
would be a lot faster.

For those that generally hold a frequency during normal CW/SSB
contesting, you may not care for or need a large waterfall display.

For those of us little pistols that resort to 'search 'n pounce', it's a
miracle worker.

73,

-- Dave, N8SBE

> I really wish it were possible to implement the features of NaP3 on to 
> the display. Mouse click QSY and internet spots would be a huge 
> benefit. Has anyone done this?
> 
> Buck, k4ia
> Honor Roll
> 8BDXCC
> EasyWayHamBooks.com

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Re: [Elecraft] Vanity call question

2018-07-23 Thread Dave New, N8SBE


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Re: [Elecraft] K3S Comparison table finalized (link attached)

2018-07-10 Thread Dave New, N8SBE


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Re: [Elecraft] K3S Comparison table finalized (link attached)

2018-07-10 Thread Dave New, N8SBE
Wayne,


You duplicated the line about the ATU:


ATU* matching range @ 100 W 10:1 (typ) 3:1 Allows monoband antennas to
be used on other bands


It's in the General and Transmitter sections.


Also, I would REALLY like to be able to plug a mouse into the P3, and
click my way around the SVGA screen.  That's the one big thing I miss
from when I was using Larry's N8LP LP Pan on my PC before the P3 came
out.  It was very handy looking for folks calling CQ by just clicking
around the waterfall.  Really changed my operating experience.  Found
out there are a lot of folks out there calling CQ, but you just miss
them by randomly tuning around.


Thanks,


-- 73, Dave, N8SBE
 
 
 Our detailed, two-page comparison table between the K3S and IC-7610 is
now complete:
 
 http://www.elecraft.com/K3/K3S_comparison1.pdf
 
...

 73,
 Wayne
 N6KR
 
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Re: [Elecraft] Ext Mic Displayed on kx2 screen?

2018-07-10 Thread Dave New, N8SBE


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Re: [Elecraft] Ext Mic Displayed on kx2 screen?

2018-07-10 Thread Dave New, N8SBE
Are you using the Elecraft KX2 mic with the buttons?  If not, try
disabling the buttons in the menu.


Otherwise, maybe a poor connection?


Hope that helps,


-- 73, Dave, N8SBE
 
 
 Hey guys,
 
 Anyone know why I keep seeing Ext. Mic Displayed on the screen of the
KX2
 every once in a while when keying the mic?
 
 Thanks!
 
 
 Semper Fi,
 
 Bob Perry
 KD9BPO
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Re: [Elecraft] [KX3] QSO of the week (and a re-learned QRP SSB tip

2018-07-06 Thread Dave New, N8SBE


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Re: [Elecraft] My KX2 may be sick

2018-09-26 Thread Dave New, N8SBE


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Re: [Elecraft] Auto-spot, tuning aids, and the arcane history of CW pitch-matching

2019-01-22 Thread Dave New, N8SBE
When I upgraded from my K3 to a K3s, I took the opportunity to order a
10 MHz Ref In option.

I finally got around to hooking it up to a Leo Bodnar GPS receiver I
picked up at Dayton a year ago, and now the K3s is rock solid spot on
frequency.

Don't know how i did without it all these years...

73,

-- Dave, N8SBE

 Original Message 
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Auto-spot, tuning aids, and the arcane history
of CW pitch-matching
From: Bob McGraw K4TAX 
Date: Tue, January 22, 2019 3:14 pm
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net

Another trick which works well.   Tune to a WWV frequency in CW mode.
Press SPOT and the radio will jump on the exact carrier frequency.   The
SPOT function can pull on to the WWV frequency as far away as about 100
Hz.  Once the radio has  resolved SPOT, the readout / display is the
frequency of WWV +/- the error in Hz. Thus the readout of 9.999.992 is
indicating being 8 Hz low.

 From a cold start, FP being 19°C, I find  -8 Hz error on 10 MHz WWV.
After about 15 minutes the FP is 25°C and the error is -1 Hz.  I've
tweaked the REF CAL such that after 1/2 hr. in receive tuning to WWV
from both higher and lower will produce a reading of 10.000.000.   Will
all stations pse QNZ  QNN.

73

Bob, K4TAX



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Re: [Elecraft] Auto-spot, tuning aids, and the arcane history of CW pitch-matching

2019-01-22 Thread Dave New, N8SBE
I'm a great fan of using the auto-spot feature, and love to show it off
to all shack visitors, as an example of yet another reason they need to
upgrade to Elecraft, from whatever boat anchor they are still using...

73,

-- Dave, N8SBE
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Re: [Elecraft] Urban stealth HF: Inside-the-backpack loop antenna?

2019-01-23 Thread Dave New, N8SBE
The loop would be only 6 to 8” from soft tissue, so you’d want to
run QRP, of course. OTOH, we’re talking about HF. A cellphone by your
ear is probably worse. 

Any other antenna suggestions?

Wayne
N6KR

Who was that guy at the HFPack get-together at HARA a few Daytons ago,
that was running A KILOWATT pedestrian mobile?  It he still on this
planet? :-)

73.

-- Dave, N8SBE
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Re: [Elecraft] Urban stealth HF: Inside-the-backpack loop antenna?

2019-01-23 Thread Dave New, N8SBE


> Here's another idea.
>
> Run a wire inside your shirt from one cuff across your back and down to
> the other cuff.  Wrap loading coils around each arm just above the
> elbow.  Feed the "dipole" in the center at the back of your neck.
>
> I did a quick model (assuming your arms are held straight out) with 5.5
> feet total length and 2200 inductive ohms for each coil, with each coil
> 30% from their respective ends of the wire.  It "resonates" at around
> 14.15 MHz, but with only about 0.4 ohms real feedpoint impedance.  I
> assume it would take some sort of extra matching network to bring that
> up enough that a KX2 with the internal tuner could drive it.
>
> Ignoring the effect of a person's arm, another quick calculation says
> that the arm coils would need to be roughly 11 turns of 10 gauge wire
> 3.5 inches in diameter ... unless I made a mistake, which is quite
> possible.
>
> It would bring new meaning to the term "compromise antenna", but I bet
> it would be more effective than a super small loop the size of backpack
> frame.
>
> 73,
> Dave  AB7E

Wouldn't that be a 'scarecrow' antenna?

73,

-- Dave, N8SBE


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Re: [Elecraft] Auto-spot, tuning aids, and the arcane history of CW pitch-matching

2019-01-23 Thread Dave New, N8SBE



> Are you serious?

> Wes  N7WS

Wes,

Yes.  I'm a stickler for accuracy.  It always bothered me that the
so-called 'temperature compensated' LO in the K3 was not actively being
steered by temperature compensation (i.e. I could only put static
temperature offsets into the rig memory from the data sheet that came
with the oscillator). That was a 'feature' that was never released. At
HF frequencies, it was only an annoyance, but using UHF transverters,
the error compounds (I'm using a crystal oven in my UHF transverter, but
the lack of one in the K3 caused drifting).

I use a Citizen watch with WWVB reception, so the time on my wrist is
never more than 50 ms off.

Anally yours,

-- Dave, N8SBE

On 1/22/2019 1:45 PM, Dave New, N8SBE wrote:
> Don't know how i did without it all these years...
>
> 73,
>
> -- Dave, N8SBE
>

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Re: [Elecraft] P3 Phantom Signals

2018-11-30 Thread Dave New, N8SBE
You do know that you can notch spurious signals out of your receiver?

There are instructions for doing so in the operating manual. It's kind
of interesting to see how it appears on the P3, though. The spurious
will tune across in reverse directions from normal signals, and usually
at double speed. If you've notched it out of your receiver (the
procedure jiggles the synthesizer frequencies a bit in the immediate
area of your receiver passband) you will see it approach your receiver
passband on the display and then magically disappear as it crosses your
passband cursor. It will then re-appear on the other side.

Pretty interesting effect, but perfectly logical, once you understand
what is being done 'under the covers' to prevent you hearing that birdie
in your receiver.

73,

-- Dave, N8SBE

 Original Message 
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] P3 Phantom Signals
From: Keith Onishi 
Date: Thu, November 29, 2018 11:43 pm
To: Elecraft 

I have the same on my P3. 
I guess the phantom signals come from synthesizer spurious. When K3 VFO
tunes to the phantom signal by turning VFO nob, you will hear its
carrier.
My K3 is not K3s but old one with original synthesizer. I am not sure on
K3s or K3 with new synthesizer.

73 de JH3SIF, Keith

> 2018/11/28 9:05、Ken Widelitz のメール:
> 
> I've noticed a large number of "phantom" signals on the P3. They look like
> signals but when I turn the RX dial, they move along with the cursor. When I
> turned the P3 off and then on, they went away of 40m but that same thing
> didn't happen on 15m. Any ideas?
> 
> 
> 
> 73, Ken, K6LA / VY2TT
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [Elecraft] SSB Features of the KX2 & KX3 You May Have Overlooked...

2018-12-06 Thread Dave New, N8SBE
Keep your electronic manual copies on Dropbox.  That way you only have
one copy, but it appears on all your PCs and devices.

Thanks, Wayne, for the pointers.  There were a couple in there I had
actually overlooked in my KX2.  I'm a long-time user of the K3/K3s, and
I just learned recently how to set up the memories to use them as band
selectors.

I'm currently surprised and pleased to discover new things about my
Elecraft gear.  You do indeed, 'delight the user'.

73,

-- Dave, N8SBE

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Subject: Re: [Elecraft] SSB Features of the KX2 & KX3 You May Have
Overlooked...
From: K8TE 
Date: Thu, December 06, 2018 3:25 pm
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net

Don makes an excellent point regarding new firmware release notes.
Unlike
other manufacturers, Elecraft manuals in PDF allow us to make notes with
Acrobat Reader. If pertinent, I update my manuals with release notes.
That
reinforces the changes, even if briefly. However, when I look in the
manual
for a specific function, I will likely see the note with the most
current
information.

RTFM is a popular acronym today. It also implies the "M" (manual) is
current. It's our, IMHO, responsibiliy to keep our manuals current. We
can
even add our own notes, like lessons learned. Once updated, I save mine
by
adding "Annotated" to the original filename. I also keep copies on any
computer I might use with the gear, especially ones I take on-the-road.

73, Bill, K8TE
Lots of Elecraft in the Shack and Backpack



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Re: [Elecraft] New tuning knob for the KX2

2019-01-08 Thread Dave New, N8SBE
I"ve always wished for a 'ballistic' interface, i.e. the faster you turn
the VFO knob the larger the frequency change per turn.  On the other
hand, I've suffered poor implementations of that feature (uBitX,
anyone?), so it would need to be done carefully, if at all.  ICOM seems
to have managed to come up with what I feel is a good implementation.  I
used it for years on my old IC-735 (that I sold to partially fund my
upgrade to a K3), and now on my IC-7000 that I still use mobile.  One of
the things I immediately missed on the K3 was lack of a ballistic VFO
interface, and lack of band-stacking registers.

I guess that Elecraft has had some edict(?) that they don't like
ballistic VFO interfaces, so I guess we will all have to live with a
fixed tuning rate.  Maybe there is a patent thicket that prevents
implementing some of the more popular features on competitive radios?

Have said all that, I really like using the RIT knob to move large
chunks of frequency quickly.  For me it's a lot easier than pushing the
rate button to shift the tuning rate on the VFO back and forth.  And I
became recently aware that there is a solution for the band-stacking
registers on the K3/K3s, using a special mode for the keypad memory
register recall.  I haven't tried it yet, but it is now on my to-do
list.

On my original K3, I did get the upgraded CNC milled knobs (both A and
B) from a 3rd party, and really liked them. I've since gone to a K3s,
and let the upgraded knobs go to a friend when he bought my old K3.  So
far, I've not felt like I need to upgrade the knobs on the K3s.  They
seem more substantial, somehow.

Yes, the knobs on the KX2 are light and small, but somehow it seems
apropos for the design.

73,

-- Dave, N8SBE


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Re: [Elecraft] Craziest / most rewarding QSOs

2018-09-14 Thread Dave New, N8SBE
"You always remember your first." :-)

My first DX contact as a 16-yr old Novice in August of 1970, was on 15
meter CW (rockbound of course, I still have the 3rd-overtone 7 MHz
crystal) with LU2DAW, an Argentinian who turned out to be a retired
railroad radio operator, who had done CW professionally for most of his
life.  He must have been VERY patient with my brand-new shaky 5 WPM CW
fist.

I used a borrowed Knight Kit T-60 transmitter, a Hallicrafters SX-99U
receiver with outboard Heathkit Q-Multiplier, a Dow-key antenna relay,
and a 'horizontal' inverted vee antenna in my parent's L-shaped attic. 
My Morse key was a Radio Shack black plastic special, screwed to a piece
of fiberboard.

I treasure the QSL card to this day.

73,

-- Dave, N8SBE (approaching 50 yrs licensed in 2020)
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Re: [Elecraft] Opportunism, bravery, insanity: putting the "eXtreme" in Elecraft's KX and AX gear

2018-12-19 Thread Dave New, N8SBE
Wayne,

Some means to GPS-lock the frequency, ala the QRPlabs QLG1:

https://www.qrp-labs.com/qlg1.html

This would make running a number of really-low-power long-transmit-time
digital modes like WSPR and QRSS more practical.

Also, built-in Free-DV support would be really nifty, for all the
K-line.  This is starting to show up in certain competitive radios.

Thanks for asking.

73,

-- Dave, N8SBE


 Original Message 
Subject: [Elecraft] Opportunism, bravery, insanity: putting the
"eXtreme" in Elecraft's KX and AX gear
From: Wayne Burdick 
Date: Tue, December 18, 2018 1:41 pm
To: Elecraft Reflector , "k...@yahoogroups.com"


Since the beginning, Elecraft products have been used under difficult
field conditions. There's the usual rain, insects, and insomnia of Field
Day, of course. Murphy at his best. But our customers have gone well
beyond this, conquering uncharted territory, experimenting with new
technology, even recruiting diminutive ungulates as pack animals.

Feedback about these experiences has helped us hone our ultraportable
transceivers; they've gotten smaller, lighter, and more capable, leading
to the present KX3 and KX2. We've also answered the call for a truly
compact, multi-band pedestrian mobile antenna with the introduction of
the AX1 and its accessories.

No doubt -- with your help -- our gear will continue to evolve. Tell us
about your operating adventures. And misadventures. What worked best?
Where could things have been improved? For example, when you were
clinging to a tree limb using an inverted vertical last winter, could
you still hear signals above the blizzard? On that ironman run, did you
need an antenna that deploys with one hand? Maybe an integrated
speech-to-FT8 converter? And when you embellish your tales beside a
campfire, should your detachable keyer paddle double as a bottle opener?

A few of your stories will find their way into our monthly newsletter.
All of them will help inform and inspire the next generation of
Elecraft's outdoor product line.

73,
Wayne
N6KR

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Re: [Elecraft] K4?

2019-03-25 Thread Dave New, N8SBE
I agree.

The radios I've seen with touch screens are a real compromise in
usability. Either the screen is too small to be useful, or it is so big
that many hard controls are sacrificed to avoid making the front panel
too large. The worst are the PC-based interfaces, where all hard
controls are eliminated.

The IC-7300 is a case in point. When I first encountered one, I gave up
trying to figure out how to change bands, and had to ask the owner. Of
course, you just touch the MHz digit on the display! Obvious, I
suppose, in retrospect.

The problem with touch displays is similar to 'hidden' mouse movements
on PCs. Unless you've read the manual or had someone show you, it is
entirely not obvious how to do cool things with the mouse.

How many folks know that on Windows 7/10 if you drag a window to the
right or left side of the screen, that it will magically re-size to fill
just the right-half or the left-half of the screen? Makes it super
simple to place two instances of the file explorer side-by-side to
assist in doing drag 'n drop operations between windows.
How many know that if you drag the winnow top edge (as in a resize
operation) to the top of the screen it will automatically fill the
screen top to bottom? And if you subsequently drag it off the top, the
window will snap back to its original size and position?
How many know that if you grab a window title bar, and shake the mouse,
that all other windows will minimize? And if you shake the window
again, they all come back?

I'd bet that at least some of you just learned something about your PC
that you didn't know before. There is a least another dozen cool things
(like using Ctl-Windows-right or -left arrow on Windows 10 to access
multiple desktops of windows).

So, how do you implement cool touch- or mouse-movements without leaving
novice users in the dust?

That's the $64,000 question.

73,

-- Dave, N8SBE

 Original Message 
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K4?
From: Wayne Burdick 
Date: Mon, March 25, 2019 12:56 pm
To: Bert 
Cc: Elecraft Reflector 

The trick is to provide a full complement of "hard" controls for
functions accessed most frequently, "in the heat of battle," as they
say, while leveraging the touch screen for its versatility.

Touchable fields can be added as a backup/shortcut to hard controls. A
touch screen inherently offers immediate context-sensitive feedback and
in many cases reduced time/effort. Examples include signal selection,
zooming, etc. Zooming should also be done right, by resampling at
narrower resolution -- is shouldn't just be a "blow-up" of the original
pixels, as implemented on some existing radios.

Ultimately, get what you pay for. That said, current prices for
"high-end" super-radios are ridiculous; they're two to four times higher
than necessary. Not only that, they're not configurable or upgradeable.
Very un-Elecraft like.

Wayne
N6KR
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Re: [Elecraft] Searching for Noise (i.e., Samples Thereof)

2019-02-18 Thread Dave New, N8SBE


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Re: [Elecraft] Searching for Noise (i.e., Samples Thereof)

2019-02-18 Thread Dave New, N8SBE
I've always wanted to better understand the tweaks/handles that we have
in the noise blanker/noise reduction algorithms in the K3/K3S.  I can
'frob the knobs', until I see some reduction in noise, but I felt it
would be much better to not be flying blind, and be able to know just
what the various modes do and their parameters do, and be able to
actually see some better noise signature to get an idea of whether or
not a particular tweak is doing what I thought it was doing.


I have the Fred Cady book, and it goes into some detail, but I'd like to
see a much better description from the source as to just what all those
parameters actually do, and a means to see it actually happen, on the
P3, or a scope, hooked to the IF out or similar.


I'm plagued with all sorts of noise at my QTH, and I haven't spent much
time trying to hunt it all down.  I feel I need better insight than to
just go around pulling circuit breakers.  Some of the stuff is quite
likely to be off-premise, as well, which brings me back to likely having
to deal with it as best I can at the receiver end of it.


Thanks and 73,


-- Dave, N8SBE
   Original Message 
 Subject: [Elecraft] Searching for Noise (i.e., Samples Thereof)
 From: Wayne Burdick 
 Date: Sat, February 16, 2019 5:56 pm
 To: Elecraft Reflector 
 
 As time permits, we're trying to better characterize the RF noise that
plagues stations at various locations.
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Re: [Elecraft] Searching for Noise (i.e., Samples Thereof)

2019-02-19 Thread Dave New, N8SBE
Thanks for all the tips, guys, especially the MFJ meter references.  I
have their ultrasonic sniffer, which helped me point out to the local
power company some dangling insulators.

I have tracked down some on-premise noise sources in the past (in no
particular order):

1) The clock on a Mr. Coffee coffee maker.  It put out a buzz-saw that
could be picked up directly for some distance, plus it coupled to the
power line, for an extra boost of signal goodness.

2) A porch light day/night sensor that screwed into the bulb socket. 
This was amazingly noisy, and only came on at night (natch).

3) A laser printer switcher power supply.  'Nuff said.

4) A doorbell transformer, likely as old as the house (built in 1954). 
It was mounted on the side of a junction box in the basement, and was
exceedingly difficult to track down, as none of the breakers, except the
main, would turn it off. Found out later that the previous owner had
paralleled two breakers in the panel, likely because he kept tripping
one of the circuits in the kitchen or bath -- the effect was that
turning off one or the other breaker had no effect on either of those
circuits.  Thus they were 'mystery' breakers until I pulled the panel
cover and discovered what had transpired.

I've since had an electrician put an extra panel put in, and some
circuits split, because the original panel was completely full with
duplex breakers.  Making plans now to put in a whole-house generator. 
Got the go-ahead from the XYL.  She is tired of all the power outages
we've had in our neighborhood over the last 2-3 years.

73,

-- Dave, N8SBE
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Re: [Elecraft] Auto-spot, tuning aids, and the arcane history of CW pitch-matching

2019-01-25 Thread Dave New, N8SBE
Don, Ed, Wes, et al,

Thanks, guys, I misspoke.  I was thinking of the old multiplicative
CW-only designs that have been floating around, but of course, the
Elecraft ones don't do that.  My bad.

Yes, it would be nice to sync the Elecraft transverters to a 10 MHz
signal.

Which ones do you guys have that have a PLL-locked 10 MHz ref in?

Don, I do have the TCXO-3 and also the XREF in my K3S.  It works very
nice with my Leo Bodnar GPS 10 MHz frequency source.

73,

-- Dave, N8SBE



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[Elecraft] Elecraft scores a "clean sweep" in the Sprints article in February QST

2019-01-31 Thread Dave New, N8SBE


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[Elecraft] Elecraft scores a "clean sweep" in the Sprints article in February QST

2019-01-31 Thread Dave New, N8SBE
Fellow Elecrafters,


Elecraft scored a "clean sweep" in the shack pictures that accompanied
the Sprints article on pp. 75-77 of the 2019 February QST.


All four pictures depict Elecraft gear in action, including a really
nice SO2R operation and even a K3/0  remote setup.


Check it out!


73,


-- Dave, N8SBE
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Re: [Elecraft] K4 in its first WPX

2019-05-28 Thread Dave New, N8SBE
Actually, how about QRZ, DxMaps, WSPRnet, or other propagation sites? 
If not on the internal display, pick/choose to show in a small window on
the big external monitor?

The mind boggles...

-- Dave, N8SBE

 Original Message 
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K4 in its first WPX
From: Scott Russell 
Date: Tue, May 28, 2019 9:22 am
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net

Sounds like a great experience. I would totally integrate Facebook in
the
display! Haha, good one. I can’t wait to hear more about the operation
and
features in real world use. Thanks for the walk-through!

Scott, N1SER




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Re: [Elecraft] Handedness

2019-06-03 Thread Dave New, N8SBE
Yes, but can you have a dynamic mic plugged into one and an electret mic
plugged in the other?

The K3/K3S has never supported this, and to this day, annoys the heck
out of me, since I have a Heil HC-4 headset (which is dynamic and
plugged in the rear connector) and an Elecraft hand mic (which is
Electret).

I have to go digging through the menus to turn the bias on/off every
time I want to switch mics.  On the plus side, mic HI/LOW gain is
separate for front/rear connectors, but NOT the bias setting.

Hopefully, this has been fixed for the K4.  Separate TX equalizer curves
should be also be supported, as well, along with mic gain, compression,
etc.

73,

-- Dave, N8SBE

 Original Message 
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Handedness
From: Wayne Burdick 
Date: Sun, June 02, 2019 11:47 am
To: Nr4c 
Cc: Elecraft Reflector , w7aqk 

Yes. You can have phones and mics plugged in both front/rear at the same
time.

Wayne


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Re: [Elecraft] Handedness

2019-06-03 Thread Dave New, N8SBE
My mistake, then.  I moved recently from a K3 to a K3S, and must have
missed this change in the manual.

I'll check that out.

Thanks for the info, and sorry to have come across so strong on the
list.

73,

-- Dave, N8SBE

 Original Message 
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Handedness
From: Michael Blake 
Date: Mon, June 03, 2019 2:45 pm
To: "Dave New, N8SBE" 

The K3s does support independent selection of the Bias on/off for the
front and rear mics.  I have an electret headset plugged into the rear
and an EV dynamic plugged into the front.  The bias selection remembers
the on/off option selected for each mic jack.
 Mike - k9JRI











On Jun 3, 2019, at 2:32 PM, Dave New, N8SBE  wrote:

Yes, but can you have a dynamic mic plugged into one and an electret mic
plugged in the other?

The K3/K3S has never supported this, and to this day, annoys the heck
out of me, since I have a Heil HC-4 headset (which is dynamic and
plugged in the rear connector) and an Elecraft hand mic (which is
Electret).

I have to go digging through the menus to turn the bias on/off every
time I want to switch mics.  On the plus side, mic HI/LOW gain is
separate for front/rear connectors, but NOT the bias setting.

Hopefully, this has been fixed for the K4.  Separate TX equalizer curves
should be also be supported, as well, along with mic gain, compression,
etc.

73,

-- Dave, N8SBE

 Original Message 
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Handedness
From: Wayne Burdick 
Date: Sun, June 02, 2019 11:47 am
To: Nr4c 
Cc: Elecraft Reflector , w7aqk 

Yes. You can have phones and mics plugged in both front/rear at the same
time.

Wayne


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Re: [Elecraft] K4 and Linux Infrastructure

2019-06-03 Thread Dave New, N8SBE
Paul,

I believe you mistook the 'direction' of DDOS attack I was talking
about.

The K4 would not be the target of a DDOS attack, but rather an unwitting
participant in launching a DDOS attack as part of robot army of IoT
devices.

Thousands of hacked IoT devices are for rent on the dark web, for any
script kiddie that wants to attack a particular target.

Also, it may be popular to use hacked web sites, or various documents
with trojan horse loads to deliver ransom ware or bitcoin miners, but
there are other known vectors, including various open ports found while
scanning.  It may be the a router would be able to block access, but the
very peer-to-peer nature of the K4 (controlling other K4's or being
controlled by another K4 or PC, tablet, etc, means that routers would
need to allow certain inbound connections through the router or
firewall.  These allow for interesting attack vectors, which will
certainly be exercised, if possible.

73,

-- Dave, N8SBE

 Original Message 
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K4 and Linux Infrastructure
From: Paul Gacek 
Date: Mon, June 03, 2019 4:00 pm
To: "Dave New, N8SBE" 
Cc: Elecraft Reflector , Rick WA6NHC


Dave

DDOS is quite hard for any end point (PC, iPhone, K4 etc) to deal with
effectively. If a million zombie Macs decide to simultaneously attack
your end point your best chance is as Rick states, a device that makes
up the perimeter defenses such as a firewall or cyber security
alternative (i.e router, IDP). Most homes don’t have anything
particularly sophisticated deployed and are therefore somewhat
vulnerable. In truth DDOS attacks are quite rare and typically not aimed
at Citizen Dave or his neighbors. Protection albeit optimistic is really
in the realm of a corporate network but even then we have a few cases
where iconic sites get hammered and go dark. Enabling the K4 to defend
against DDOS is a little like building a house to withstand random bits
of ISS dropping in unexpectedly; not something I’m expecting to be
paying for.

Unwanted ransomware or bitcoin mining programs are most likely the
result of an unwitting end user at and end point (PC, Android etc) doing
something that resulted in the malware ending up on their end point.
Could be surfing to a suspect web site (www.PawnStorm4U.com) or even
going to a compromised but reputable site such as NASA.gov. 
Alternatively, it could be someone opening a compromised PDF or
Word/Excel attachment. The best protection here is to be cautious and
mindful of what you do in the cyber world and absolutely make sure you
are running the most uptodate OS (not XP) and to its most current patch
level.


Presumably but maybe not, the K4 won’t make available to the ham
operator a browser that allows them to surf wherever nor an email client
that they can read Excel attachments at the whim of the ham operator.
That is best done outside of the K4.


Hardening Linux, following best practices on coding and penetration
testing are all things to be aware of and implement as appropriately.


For those who might be interested in perusing details of some of these
topics these links might be interesting;
Secure Coding Practices
https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/aa570401Hardening Linux
https://www.computerworld.com/article/3144985/linux-hardening-a-15-step-checklist-for-a-secure-linux-server.htmlPenetration
Testing https://www.tenable.com


With Elecraft’s proximity to Silicon Valley and presumably contacts
abounding, I’m optimistic the K4 will do us proud and I won’t have
to rely on Rocky and Bullwinkle to keep nefarious foreign agents out of
my K4.


Paul
W6PNG/M0SNA
www.nomadic.blog






On Jun 3, 2019, at 7:58 PM, Rick WA6NHC  wrote:

Much of that protection can be implemented at the router level (>90% of
all sites) and the internal linux (fairly bullet proof) will deal with
the radio talking to the world.

It shouldn't be too difficult for Elecraft to refine security to the
radio, you'd only need a few ports of network access, which if required,
could be coded to set values (MAC address) up to the menu level...  or
limited access into the linux side of the radio.

I'm confident it has been considered and managed with the usual Elecraft
elegance.

Rick NHC


On 6/3/2019 11:50 AM, Dave New, N8SBE wrote:
So, let's let the elephant in the room bellow a bit.

Ahem, CYBER SECURITY.

Now that you've put a popular, modern OS in the K4, and hooked it up to
Ethernet (and therefore the Internet), you've just opened a stinking
pile of attack vectors.

And please don't think that no one will bother figuring out how to 'own'
such a powerful connected processor.  If you spend anytime reading up on
things like Distributed Denial of Service (DDOS) attacks, you will find
that things like webcams and routers (which typically don't even have a
32-bit OS in them) have been marshaled to unleash frightening
multi-gigabit attacks on various targets.

Or, try the newest craze, dropping Bitcoin or other digital currency
m

Re: [Elecraft] K4 and Linux Infrastructure

2019-06-03 Thread Dave New, N8SBE
So, let's let the elephant in the room bellow a bit.

Ahem, CYBER SECURITY.

Now that you've put a popular, modern OS in the K4, and hooked it up to
Ethernet (and therefore the Internet), you've just opened a stinking
pile of attack vectors.

And please don't think that no one will bother figuring out how to 'own'
such a powerful connected processor.  If you spend anytime reading up on
things like Distributed Denial of Service (DDOS) attacks, you will find
that things like webcams and routers (which typically don't even have a
32-bit OS in them) have been marshaled to unleash frightening
multi-gigabit attacks on various targets.

Or, try the newest craze, dropping Bitcoin or other digital currency
mining engines on unsuspecting machines, taking them over hog mode, and
pegging the CPU at 100%, using your electric bill for their gain.

Or, maybe the K4 will be the first ham radio to suffer from a
ransom-ware attack, where the poor ham is asked to ante up some ransom
(in bitcoin usually, to make it hard to track) to get control of his
radio back.

True, at least one or more other companies have already stepped out
ahead, by putting Windows 10 in their radio.

I'm just wondering if anyone at Elecraft has been tasked with dealing
with the cyber security aspects of this new toy, and what plans you may
have for outside pen testing, etc. have been made.

At the very least, you should be using authenticated boot and
authenticated flash, protected by a root certificate in an internal
hardware trust anchor.

73,

-- Dave, N8SBE

 Original Message 
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K4 and Linux Infrastructure
From: Wayne Burdick 
Date: Sun, June 02, 2019 11:52 am
To: Leroy Buller 
Cc: Elecraft Reflector , Lee Buller


x86, not PI (ARM). It's the controller for internal/external displays
and streaming I/O, runs the server for remote clients, and serves as the
present/future app engine.

Additional details pending.

73,
Wayne
N6KR



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Re: [Elecraft] Handedness

2019-06-03 Thread Dave New, N8SBE
Shouldn't need to tie up a PF for this feature.  The K3 should be able
to remember the setting on a per jack basis.

73,

-- Dave, N8SBE

 Original Message 
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Handedness
From: Bob McGraw K4TAX 
Date: Mon, June 03, 2019 3:51 pm
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net

I use PF1 to switch between front mike input, no bias, and rear mike
input with bias.

73

Bob, K4TAX


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Re: [Elecraft] K3s availability

2019-06-20 Thread Dave New, N8SBE
Eric,

Beats the heck out of the cell phone industry, where any phone that is
more than about 3 yrs old goes out of support, and I'm forced to upgrade
if I want any more security updates.

I anticipate that soon the feds will decide to regulate support of
connected IoT devices, requiring update/security support for X number of
years after manufacture/sale, if the industry doesn't deal with it
first.  My advice for the industry is it is much better to steer your
own ship than to wait for regulation.

In the auto industry, OEMs are required to keep spare parts in inventory
for ten years after the last date of manufacture for any particular
discontinued model.  No word, yet, though, on how long things like an
Internet-connected head unit (radio) needs to be kept updated.

73,

-- Dave, N8SBE

 Original Message 
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3s availability
From: "Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft" 
Date: Thu, June 20, 2019 3:12 am
To: j...@kk9a.com
Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net

Our current plan is to keep the K3S in the product line as long as
demand is sufficient to economically produce it. We are certainly still
shipping new K3S orders weekly and have sufficient parts inventory to
keep manufacturing them at this time. We also are still strongly
supporting existing K3 and K3S owners.

73,
Eric
Waking up in Friedrichshafen after 24 hrs of travel and getting over my
jet lag.
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Re: [Elecraft] K4HD

2019-05-22 Thread Dave New, N8SBE
I did exactly the same thing, back in 2009.  I was determined to come
away from Dayton with something to replace the old IC-735 I had used for
the last twenty years, that would be worthy of the six-band quad antenna
I had just put up.

I was put off by the Flex, both for lack of QSK CW and SSB VOX, and made
my choice Elecraft.

I've NEVER been sorry. Ever.

73,

-- Dave, N8SBE

 Original Message 
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K4HD
From: Tom Azlin W7SUA 
Date: Sun, May 19, 2019 3:11 pm
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net



I spend all afternoon between the FlexRadio and Elecraft booths looking
at the Flex 5000 and Elecraft K3. Field simplicity, high dynamic range
and low TX phase noise sold me on the K3.

73, tom w7sua


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Re: [Elecraft] K4 - VHF/UHF

2019-05-10 Thread Dave New, N8SBE
That's a Yaesu FT-726r

It came with a 2m module, and had space for two more.

Haven't seen anything like it since.

73,

-- Dave, N8SBE

 Original Message 
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K4 - VHF/UHF
From: Harry Yingst via Elecraft 
Date: Tue, May 07, 2019 1:18 pm
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net

 At one point I considered buying a second K3 and installingsmall
transverters where the 100w PA would typically go.

I would like to see a matching box that had Transvertermodules that you
could insert for the various bands.




 On Monday, May 6, 2019, 4:21:27 PM EDT,  wrote:

 Will there ever be a VHF/UHF radio? I'm sure because of the cost factor
there would a limitation. The interest would be the next question. Had
to
ask...

Brian
K1DIH

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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft / IC-7610 comparison

2019-05-21 Thread Dave New, N8SBE
Graziano,

Wayne explained to me at Hamvention that the K4 is running Linux.

That gets my stamp of approval.

73,

-- Dave, N8SBE

 Original Message 
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft / IC-7610 comparison
From: "Graziano Roccon (IW2NOY)" 
Date: Tue, May 21, 2019 5:45 am
To: Alan 
Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net

Hello,

this is not good for K4. These products are thought to be manage by
operative systems and drivers (like Windows or Mac or Linux), this is
not the case of the K4 that have a custom "OS" and can't manage that
kind of devices.
Maybe you can use more complicated and expensive devices thought to be
used with RJ-45 ports, where this device use a DHCP and give an ip
address to the RJ-45 port creating a private network between the RJ-45
and the device, afterwards the device can access the WIFI network with
his wifi adapter and work like a bridge between the two network. In this
way, maybe, you can connect the K4 to the wifi in a more "natural" way.

Like this one for example:
https://www.amazon.com/Vonets-VAR11N-300-Multi-Functional-Wireless-Portable/dp/B01199OGK0/ref=sr_1_fkmrnull_1_sspa?keywords=vonets+VAR11+N-300=1558431899=gateway=8-1-fkmrnull-spons=1

Best regards, Graziano Roccon IW2NOY / W2NOY




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[Elecraft] (no subject)

2019-05-06 Thread Dave New, N8SBE
OEMs have gone back and forth over the years with the "one true ground"
vs completely distributed grounding via the chassis. They seem to
currently be in the phase of using distributed localized grounding
points (with several ground return wires per location), a kind of hybrid
grounding system, if you prefer.

I've always run a pair of wires back to the battery, but with one
important difference. I tie the ground side of the pair near the
battery end to the chassis terminal that the battery uses to 'ground'
the negative to the vehicle chassis. This way, if the battery negative
opens (either because of a loose terminal clamp or a defective
battery-to-chassis connection), you won't get a load dump of the entire
vehicle's current through your radio's ground wire, radio chassis, and
antenna coax shield to wherever you've mounted your antenna.

No OEM will ever recommend connecting the negative return of any
accessory to the battery negative terminal, because of this. Folks that
do this risk a 'thermal event' involving their gear if a load dump
occurs.

Finally, if your DC power cable came with a fuse in the negative lead,
bypass it/take it out! Otherwise, you can blow the fuse in the
negative, and put all your transmitter power load (30A peak for a
typical 100W HF rig) down your antenna coax shield to (again) where ever
you mounted your antenna.

Also, put an inline fuse near the battery end in the plus DC lead, to
guard against any shorts to chassis in the run to the rig. Most
aftermarket installations don't do much to protect the added wiring, and
it could chafe and get cut into someplace. Better to blow the fuse at
the battery end, than to have another 'thermal event' burning up the
wire.

Hope this helps.

73,

-- Dave, N8SBE

> Proper bonding in a vehicle is different from bonding in a fixed
> station. In general, rigs should NOT be bonded to the vehicle chassis,
> and contrary to what is written on the site of a so-called mobile
> authority, DC power should be a pair run directly from the battery,
> ideally a twisted pair. Fundamental reason is that bonding the rig to
> the chassis provides a loop return path for noise and coupling RFI
> to/from the vehicle's computers. Also, the rig is not the source of RF,
> it's the antenna!

> 73, Jim K9YC
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Re: [Elecraft] Mobile high power

2019-05-06 Thread Dave New, N8SBE
OEMs have gone back and forth over the years with the "one true ground"
vs completely distributed grounding via the chassis. They seem to
currently be in the phase of using distributed localized grounding
points (with several ground return wires per location), a kind of hybrid
grounding system, if you prefer.

I've always run a pair of wires back to the battery, but with one
important difference. I tie the ground side of the pair near the
battery end to the chassis terminal that the battery uses to 'ground'
the negative to the vehicle chassis. This way, if the battery negative
opens (either because of a loose terminal clamp or a defective
battery-to-chassis connection), you won't get a load dump of the entire
vehicle's current through your radio's ground wire, radio chassis, and
antenna coax shield to wherever you've mounted your antenna.

No OEM will ever recommend connecting the negative return of any
accessory to the battery negative terminal, because of this. Folks that
do this risk a 'thermal event' involving their gear if a load dump
occurs.

Finally, if your DC power cable came with a fuse in the negative lead,
bypass it/take it out! Otherwise, you can blow the fuse in the
negative, and put all your transmitter power load (30A peak for a
typical 100W HF rig) down your antenna coax shield to (again) where ever
you mounted your antenna.

Also, put an inline fuse near the battery end in the plus DC lead, to
guard against any shorts to chassis in the run to the rig. Most
aftermarket installations don't do much to protect the added wiring, and
it could chafe and get cut into someplace. Better to blow the fuse at
the battery end, than to have another 'thermal event' burning up the
wire.

Hope this helps.

73,

-- Dave, N8SBE

> Proper bonding in a vehicle is different from bonding in a fixed
> station. In general, rigs should NOT be bonded to the vehicle chassis,
> and contrary to what is written on the site of a so-called mobile
> authority, DC power should be a pair run directly from the battery,
> ideally a twisted pair. Fundamental reason is that bonding the rig to
> the chassis provides a loop return path for noise and coupling RFI
> to/from the vehicle's computers. Also, the rig is not the source of RF,
> it's the antenna!

> 73, Jim K9YC
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Re: [Elecraft] Mobile high power

2019-05-06 Thread Dave New, N8SBE
Most modern vehicles are tested for EMC in large chambers, where they
are bombarded by high-power frequencies that extend up into the
microwave range.  So, they are relatively immune to external RF fields.

On the other hand, they are frequently not designed to withstand a
powerful onboard transmitter, unless specifically designed for a
particular market, say police/fire/ambulance.

In the case of those vehicles, the assembly plant typically installs
bonding/ground straps to bond all major metal panels.  Unfortunately,
regular customers can't get those kits installed at the plant for them,
and they aren't very effective as an aftermarket kit, because the
customer would have to scrape the paint down to bare metal and access
locations that might be completely closed off after assembly to install
said straps.

The other unfortunate effect of designing for police/fire/ambulance
service, is that all those radios are now VHF/UHF and up.  No more HF
radios.  They went out with the state-wide sheriff's networks of old
that ran on 40 MHz or so.  So, that leaves the amateur radio HF operator
twisting in the wind, both for onboard interference from vehicle
electronics, and susceptibility of same.

I heard that one OEM had declared that no one used HF any more, because
they scanned the FCC database looking for amateur station assigned
frequencies (ala commercial stations which are assigned fixed channels
or groups of channels) and finding none, reached the conclusion that no
one is using those bands any more.  Thus, all frequencies below 30 MHz
are not protected, except for the AM broadcast band in the US, and MW in
the EU.

OEMs are concerned that their onboard entertainment radios
(AM/FM/Sirius/XM) and their tire pressure monitor and remote keyless
entry systems have no interference, but everything else can go to pot.

At one time, I'm aware that at least one OEM tested using an Icom IC-706
with those dummy-load like 1-inch coil resonated antennas, but I don't
know if that is any longer the case.

The ARRL TIS (Technical Information Service) maintains a database of
information on mobile installations, including official documentation
(if any) from various vehicle OEMs on suggested mobile installation
guidelines.  Some OEMs used to come to Dayton with sample mobile
installations, and answer questions but I've not seen them do this for
some number of years.

Hope this helps.

73,

-- Dave, N8SBE


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[Elecraft] AE5X: 3D printed desktop rack for KX3/PX3

2019-11-12 Thread Dave New, N8SBE
Ran across this on AE5X's blog:


https://ae5x.blogspot.com/2019/11/3d-printed-desktop-rack-for-kx3px3.html


Looks kind of useful for those that have both the KX3 and PX3.  You can
print your own, or Robert K5TD will print them for you for a fee.


73,


-- Dave, N8SBE
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[Elecraft] AE5X: 3D printed desktop rack for KX3/PX3

2019-11-12 Thread Dave New, N8SBE


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Re: [Elecraft] Feature density of portable transceivers: K1 vs. KX2

2019-12-09 Thread Dave New, N8SBE


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Re: [Elecraft] Winter Field Day this weekend -- brief introduction

2020-01-24 Thread Dave New, N8SBE


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