Re: pop-up windows
user_pref(capability.policy.default.windowinternal.open, noAccess); I have a hazy recollection that the name of the pref may have changed. Search n.p.m.security. Gerv
Re: Back page problems?
(sorry, bugzilla baffles me) You'd be better off explaining how - bug reports here go unheeded 99% of the time :-) Gerv
Re: Newbie to the group with v4.70 problem
Wrong group! This is a group for Mozilla Open source
development, which has absolutely nothing to do with
Communicator 4.7.
For that you need:
http:/ufaq.org
or
snews://secnews.netscape.com/netscape.communicator
--
}:-) Christopher Jahn
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He whose lust lasts, lasts longest. (Harold Pinter?)
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Re: Spell checker still possible with Mozilla
You can even go to ftp.netscape.com, browse to the appropriate directory and click on spellchk.xpi to install it into Mozilla. Works on Linux too. :) -Pratik. Colin Thefleau wrote: Mozilla is becoming really good now, but still badly lacks a spell checker. Maybe there will be an open source spell checker in the future, now it's really a problem. Specially for me, I have to write mails in 3 languages. I found a really nice solution for this problem: I downloaded Netscape 6.1 (and installed it) and copied the directory spellchecker from the components directory and pasted it in the Mozilla components directory. Et voilà, I have a spell checker with Mozilla and can now delete this huge Netscape 6.1 that I don't need. And because I need more languages, I copy my old netscape dictionary from Netscape 4.7 (I'm also sure anyway that they are exactly the same as now). I don't know if this works with non windows systems, have to try it. Sorry if this have been discussed before, I thought some people would like to know that. Bye Colin
Re: Spell checker still possible with Mozilla
I down loaded it and it works. Someone fixed the .xpi install in the recent nightly. My thanks, I can appear literate again. Howie Pratik Solanki wrote: You can even go to ftp.netscape.com, browse to the appropriate directory and click on spellchk.xpi to install it into Mozilla. Works on Linux too. :) -Pratik. Colin Thefleau wrote: Mozilla is becoming really good now, but still badly lacks a spell checker. Maybe there will be an open source spell checker in the future, now it's really a problem. Specially for me, I have to write mails in 3 languages. I found a really nice solution for this problem: I downloaded Netscape 6.1 (and installed it) and copied the directory spellchecker from the components directory and pasted it in the Mozilla components directory. Et voilà, I have a spell checker with Mozilla and can now delete this huge Netscape 6.1 that I don't need. And because I need more languages, I copy my old netscape dictionary from Netscape 4.7 (I'm also sure anyway that they are exactly the same as now). I don't know if this works with non windows systems, have to try it. Sorry if this have been discussed before, I thought some people would like to know that. Bye Colin -- Howard M. Stark 337 Mildahn Road Macedon, NY 14502-9130 Phone: 716.388.7856 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: middle/roll button
Then it should be implemented on windows at least. Mozilla's purpose is to serve the users' needs right? :) Jamin W. Collins wrote: On 21 Jun 2001 07:04:19 -0700, Sol Hell wrote: Why does mozilla insist on not including middle (roll) button navigation. I mean if you click the middle mouse butoon and then you can navigate up, down, right, left, etc. I am not talking about turning the roll button. This is such a major annoyance, especially if you want to convert IE users. I am willing to make netscape my default but this is keeping me from it since it slows down my browsing experience. Please keep in mind that mozilla runs on other platforms. On some of these platforms, the middle button is actually used for other things already, unlike windows. This is not to say it could not be done. Jamin W. Collins
Do Filters work at all? Re: filters 9.1
lal_truckee wrote: Are filters operative? I can't seem to set newsgroup filters on a win nt box (Moz seems to only want to set filters on mail, but I don't use Moz for mail, so I'm not sure if they work.) On Linux (RH 7.1) I can't seem to set ANY filters. A cursory search of buzilla didn't turn up anything (although I suspect I'm not doing the search right). Is this a known bug, user error (most probable), missing feature, ??? Thanks
Re: URL Links don't work?
Alexander Sperduti wrote: Do you know if the InternetShortcut object could be added to Win95 by upgrading system dll's or adding registry keys? If I'm lucky, the whole thing may reside in a single dll supplied in the IE installation. Why not install IE3? It doesn't integrate itself that much into Windows. It's about 11MB to download the setup file.
Re: middle/roll button
It's being worked on :) see http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=22775 Sol Hell wrote: Why does mozilla insist on not including middle (roll) button navigation. I mean if you click the middle mouse butoon and then you can navigate up, down, right, left, etc. I am not talking about turning the roll button. This is such a major annoyance, especially if you want to convert IE users. I am willing to make netscape my default but this is keeping me from it since it slows down my browsing experience.
Re: middle/roll button
Sol, would you be talking about this, per chance? http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=22775 ;) Sol Hell wrote: Then it should be implemented on windows at least. Mozilla's purpose is to serve the users' needs right? :) Jamin W. Collins wrote: On 21 Jun 2001 07:04:19 -0700, Sol Hell wrote: Why does mozilla insist on not including middle (roll) button navigation. I mean if you click the middle mouse butoon and then you can navigate up, down, right, left, etc. I am not talking about turning the roll button. This is such a major annoyance, especially if you want to convert IE users. I am willing to make netscape my default but this is keeping me from it since it slows down my browsing experience. Please keep in mind that mozilla runs on other platforms. On some of these platforms, the middle button is actually used for other things already, unlike windows. This is not to say it could not be done. Jamin W. Collins
Re: middle/roll button
Darnit! You beat me to it ;) Ben Ruppel wrote: It's being worked on :) see http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=22775 Sol Hell wrote: Why does mozilla insist on not including middle (roll) button navigation. I mean if you click the middle mouse butoon and then you can navigate up, down, right, left, etc. I am not talking about turning the roll button. This is such a major annoyance, especially if you want to convert IE users. I am willing to make netscape my default but this is keeping me from it since it slows down my browsing experience.
Re: pop-up windows
Gervase Markham wrote: I have a hazy recollection that the name of the pref may have changed. Search n.p.m.security. Thanks for the tip. I've found a brand-new document on this here: http://www.mozilla.org/projects/security/components/configPolicy.html HP -- Visit http://www.hei-news.de/
Re: Static Build
David Nickel wrote: Guten Tag!! In the builds newsgroup and I see also on the checkins page, they talk about static builds. Does anybody know what this is and what it does? Thank you for your help! David Nickel Static build refers to a build in which some of the DLLs (or shared objects if you're on one of those 'alternative' OSs) are built as static libraries and are statically linked into the program. What this does is effectively make the library an intergral part of the program, instead of a separate loadable module which the OS has to load at runtime and then 'link' into the main program, thus saving a bit of work at runtime. I don't believe there are separate static builds available, nor will there be, I think the plan is to just make some of the DLLs into static libraries wherever it makes sense *COUGH*somethingIsuggestedmonthsago*COUGH* in the main trunk.
Re: middle/roll button
Thanks. You wrote: Sol, would you be talking about this, per chance? http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=22775 ;) Sol Hell wrote: Then it should be implemented on windows at least. Mozilla's purpose is to serve the users' needs right? :) Jamin W. Collins wrote: On 21 Jun 2001 07:04:19 -0700, Sol Hell wrote: Why does mozilla insist on not including middle (roll) button navigation. I mean if you click the middle mouse butoon and then you can navigate up, down, right, left, etc. I am not talking about turning the roll button. This is such a major annoyance, especially if you want to convert IE users. I am willing to make netscape my default but this is keeping me from it since it slows down my browsing experience. Please keep in mind that mozilla runs on other platforms. On some of these platforms, the middle button is actually used for other things already, unlike windows. This is not to say it could not be done. Jamin W. Collins
Re: pop-up windows
nospam@nospam wrote: two queries: [snip] Sorry, I can only help you with this one: also, when I visit pages hosted by tripod, geocities,etc, little rectangular windows pop up with adverts in them. Is there any way to disable these pop up windows? Is there ever! And it works with any browser. One word: Proxomitron. Go here: http://spywaresucks.org/prox/ It blocks nearly all ads, nearly all popup crap (ESPECIALLY Tripod @ Geocities), sits in your system tray, and can be bypassed if necessary (which is rare) with a right-click. You will not believe how well it works. And it doesn't involve dinking around with Javascript or XUL or whatever these other guys are telling you to do. Just make sure you: 1. Install the released version. 2. Install the latest beta over top of it. cheers. gavin.
Message Thread does NOT display Any suggestions ?!?
When attempting to explore the threads eminating from my original posting subject of: 'Major Featur sic Status?' posted about 10:50 am 20 June 2001 (where it shows 3 articles are present) using Moz0.9.1, I get an 'error' message reading: 'Your search - - did not match any documents. Suggestions: * Make sure all words are spelled correctly. * Try different keywords. * Try more general keywords.' My browser does display other threads properly though. Any explanations? ddw
Re: MS and Open Source
RV wrote: JTK wrote: RV wrote: [snip] They have equated Open Source as being insecure. I have several people approach me already at the college where i teach and ask me why I am using an Open Source web browser. They are afraid someone can insert code (back door) that will breach confidential information and send it to someplace else. Oh now come on, that's just silly! How exactly are they going to do that, by exploiting the excruciatingly slow configurability of the XUL UI perhaps?!?! Um... somebody *did* think that through, didn't they? Hello? Hellooo? No, by believing MS FUD about how Open Source works. It is obvious you did not read the article I pointed too Someone is going to breach confidential information and send it to someplace else by believing MS FUD?
Re: Static Build
JTK wrote: Static build refers to a build in which some of the DLLs (or shared objects if you're on one of those 'alternative' OSs) are built as static libraries and are statically linked into the program. What this does is effectively make the library an intergral part of the program, instead of a separate loadable module which the OS has to load at runtime and then 'link' into the main program, thus saving a bit of work at runtime. I don't believe there are separate static builds available, nor will there be, I think the plan is to just make some of the DLLs into static libraries wherever it makes sense *COUGH*somethingIsuggestedmonthsago*COUGH* in the main trunk. see http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=46775 for discussion of static builds[1]. They aren't turned on by default yet - I'm not sure if there's a bug tracking this or not. There are definitely still some open issues (see recent Performance meeting agenda posting in n.p.m.performance for specifics). In the interim it is possible to create a static build with some compile time options, but I'm not sure you would want to right now due to the outstanding issues. I don't know if there's anywhere that you can download these experimental builds from, but there might be. The plan, as I understand it (I could be very wrong - I just watch from the outside), is to have just a few big DLLs (or SOs on unix; don't know the Mac equivalent) rather than lots and lots of little ones as we do now. This should save considerable time on startup[2]... Stuart. Footnotes mostly intended for JTK's benefit: [1] Having suggested it months ago, I suppose you noticed the existance of this bugzilla bug, and also noted the date it was filed and how many months people have already been working on it... [2] This is just one more major contributor to startup time compared to, say, K-Meleon... that has absolutely nothing to do with XUL.
[MAILER-DAEMON@asgardsrealm.net] failure notice
On 21 Jun 2001 15:14:25 -0500, JTK wrote: Someone is going to breach confidential information and send it to someplace else by believing MS FUD? ENOUGH already! Geez, those that are going to get the point have already gotten it. Those that aren't haven't. This thread no longer has anything to do with mozilla and as such shouldn't continue on the mozilla mailing list. Jamin W. Collins
Re: HELLLOO!?!??!
Ian Hickson wrote: On Mon, 18 Jun 2001, JTK wrote: jesus X wrote: No, Netscape released 6.0 because they NEEDED to get a new version out before the year ended. Their choice was rushed by their marketing department, and had nothing to do with Mozilla. Right there: Netscape has nothing to do with Mozilla. Your words, not mine. Ok, I think now would be a good time for elementary English classes. First answer me this: Are you one of the QA geniuses that put their stamp of approval on Netscape 6.0? [snip the sad pedantry] By substitution of context, that sentence is equivalent to: [Netscape's] choice was rushed by [Netscape's] marketing department, and had nothing to do with Mozilla.. And by reduction, Netscape's choices have nothing to do with Mozilla. A known-false statement. [S-N-I-P - God, do they pay you to type this much?] Let us compare these two sentences: [Netscape's choice] had nothing to do with Mozilla. Netscape has nothing to do with Mozilla. Are they equivalent? Yes. If Netscape's choices had no effect on Maozilla, that would by simple induction require that Netscape had nothing to do with Maozilla. QED. [megasnip] Ergo: Your statement is wrong. No, you failed refutation of my correct statement is strident and pathetic. Indeed, your statement is probably grounds for a lawsuit, since you are insinuating that jesus X said something which he did not. BAHAHHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! Yeah, that'd be one hell of a Judge Judy episode, wouldn't it! But your honor, he INSINUATED me! Well... yeah... that is in fact what I said... BAHHAHAHHAHHAHAHHAAHAHHHAHAHAHHAHAA!!! Maybe I should countersue jesus X for misrepresenting himself as the King of Kings and Lord of Lords, huh Ironsides? Or maybe you should get back to Assuring the Quality of Maozilla's I mean Netscape 6.x's Standards Compliance and shut your word hole. -- Ian Hickson )\ _. - ._.) fL Netscape, Standards Compliance QA /. `- ' ( `--' +1 650 937 6593`- , ) - ) \ irc.mozilla.org:Hixie _ (.' \) (.' -' __
Re: MS and Open Source
JTK wrote: RV wrote: JTK wrote: RV wrote: [snip] They have equated Open Source as being insecure. I have several people approach me already at the college where i teach and ask me why I am using an Open Source web browser. They are afraid someone can insert code (back door) that will breach confidential information and send it to someplace else. Oh now come on, that's just silly! How exactly are they going to do that, by exploiting the excruciatingly slow configurability of the XUL UI perhaps?!?! Um... somebody *did* think that through, didn't they? Hello? Hellooo? No, by believing MS FUD about how Open Source works. It is obvious you did not read the article I pointed too Someone is going to breach confidential information and send it to someplace else by believing MS FUD? Let me try again JF, MS FUD was about spreading a big misconception about Open Source: that is, the source code is open for anyone to tinker with allowing a malicious coder to add code creating a backdoor, a virus, or something more malicious. The malicious code will be incorporated and will spread among everyone without realizing it. As I said, in theory that is true, but the fact applies in reverse order too. Since Open Source projects also include either a group of drivers, a committee (politburo as you call it ;) )or a benevolent dictator (e.g. Linus Torvalds) it is unlikely that such code will be accepted. All theses eyes peer over the submitted code and review it for not only correctness, but also for unwanted activities. Anyone who belives MS FUD in that regard will be less prone to try open source software, whether is Linux, Mozilla or whatever. As a matter of fact MS misinformation has been directed not to the technically savvy (programmers, IT guys, CIO), but to people in other managerial positions, like CEO, CFO and others who might be able to block the technical people decisions. That was what Mundie was trying to do here at NYU. I should know because I was there ;-) From the comments I got from some of my students regarding me using Mozilla in my office I would say there is a good chance that spreading that kind of FUD might work if people from the other side (open source advocates) don't counteract it with the fact that EVEN MS uses open source software. That was the intention of my original posting.
Re: Static Build
JTK wrote: *COUGH*somethingIsuggestedmonthsago*COUGH* in the main trunk. I think you are over selling yourself but even if you are not, I am glad they listened to you .. even after your constant ranting about Mozilla people, AOL politburo, the communist conspiracy of a MAJOR capitalist corporation, not accepting your suggestions. This should be additional encouragement for you to change your tactics and be more active in promoting solutions and less about just complaining in non-productive non-constructive way. Keep bringing the good ideas. ;-)
New IE6.0 Build out
It's looking pretty polished folks, I suggest you take a look. The world ain't standing still while Maozilla figues out how to draw controls inside the lines.
Re: New IE6.0 Build out
JTK [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... It's looking pretty polished folks, I suggest you take a look. The world ain't standing still while Maozilla figues out how to draw controls inside the lines. Get it where?
Compare cached pages automatically?
I've noticed a new optionb on the cached prefrences panel, that seems to be the default. Compare the page in the cache to the page on the network Automatically. How exactly does this algorithm work? Thanks in advance. -- Matthew Cline| Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose that [EMAIL PROTECTED] | you were a member of Congress. But I repeat | myself. -- Mark Twain
Re: New IE6.0 Build out
Marc Leger wrote: JTK [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... It's looking pretty polished folks, I suggest you take a look. The world ain't standing still while Maozilla figues out how to draw controls inside the lines. Get it where? I got it from Windows Update. And IIRC, it was a ~9MB download. Including OE6.0. Which reminds me, I haven't even looked at OE6.0. I wonder how it compares to Maozilla's mail/newsreader these days
Mozilla and RealPlayer 8
I have a question. I run slackware 7.1 and i have the following problem. Has anyone gotten RealPlayer 8 to work with the latest Mozilla release? I have Mozilla installed under /usr/local/Mozilla and RealPlayer 8 installed under /usr/local/Realplayer8. I have entered the mimetypes correctly as specified for Netscape 6 and copied the plugins to /use/local/Mozilla/plugins. What happens is when i click on a link it only brings up a Save To Disk Window even if I don't have the save to disk box checked. Mathias Matt Bjorkman Headtechnician Mathco e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Aol Instant Messanger: MathcoMat MSN Messanger: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mathco - Your Computer Resource Phone: 1-888-693-7063 Fax: 1-561-365-0153 Web: http://www.mathco.com
Re: New IE6.0 Build out
JTK wrote: Marc Leger wrote: JTK [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... It's looking pretty polished folks, I suggest you take a look. The world ain't standing still while Maozilla figues out how to draw controls inside the lines. Get it where? I got it from Windows Update. And IIRC, it was a ~9MB download. Including OE6.0. Which reminds me, I haven't even looked at OE6.0. I wonder how it compares to Maozilla's mail/newsreader these days I couldn't find a single difference between OE5 and OE6 when I last used OE6. I'm guessing just under the hood work has gone into OE6. -- Ryan Cassin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ryan Cassin on AIM Hurricane on IRC
Re: New IE6.0 Build out
Er, IE6 is just like 5 with some tweaks. Looks like they're standing still to me ;-) --Blake JTK wrote: It's looking pretty polished folks, I suggest you take a look. The world ain't standing still while Maozilla figues out how to draw controls inside the lines.
Re: New IE6.0 Build out
Ryan Cassin wrote: [snip] I couldn't find a single difference between OE5 and OE6 when I last used OE6. I'm guessing just under the hood work has gone into OE6. That's depressing. As far as I can tell, it doesn't need any under-the-hood work, but could use a little body work. -- Ryan Cassin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ryan Cassin on AIM Hurricane on IRC
The latest strong-arm tactics from AOL
In a posting on the Sourceforge.net site, Douglas E. Warner said he received a letter from an attorney representing AOL, who asked him to stop using the letters AIM to describe his phpAIM project.: http://www.zdnet.com/zdnn/stories/news/0,4586,5093108,00.html I'd sure like to be a fly on the wall when AOL goes after the NRA for using the word aim constantly in their publications! WheeewwEEE! That'd be one heck of a brawl! From my cold dead keyboard!
Re: HELLLOO!?!??!
On Thu, 21 Jun 2001, JTK wrote: First answer me this: Are you one of the QA geniuses that put their stamp of approval on Netscape 6.0? Nope. I am one of the Netscape QA people who screamed and screamed that 6.0 was not ready to be shipped. I am not actually aware of any members of Netscape QA who put their stamp of approval on N6.0. A quick glance at Bugzilla would have answered that question for you. Ian Hickson wrote: By substitution of context, that sentence is equivalent to: [Netscape's] choice was rushed by [Netscape's] marketing department, and had nothing to do with Mozilla.. And by reduction, Netscape's choices have nothing to do with Mozilla. You cannot, by reduction, pluralise a word as you have done. Netscape's *choices* (plural) are a distinct concept from Netscape's *choice* to ship 6.0. Individual choices may or may not have any relation to Mozilla. For example, Netscape's choice to provide its employees with Indian food on Wednesdays is totally independent of anything to do with Mozilla. Just because that particular choice has nothing to do with Mozilla, does NOT mean that Netscape itself has nothing to do with Mozilla. [S-N-I-P - God, do they pay you to type this much?] Nope, I enjoy it. Let us compare these two sentences: [Netscape's choice] had nothing to do with Mozilla. Netscape has nothing to do with Mozilla. Are they equivalent? Yes. If Netscape's choices had no effect on Maozilla, Once again, you have made the error of pluralising a word without any logical reason to do so. Maybe, in addition to an elementary course in English, you should do an elementary course in Logic, as your recent posts have clearly shown that you lack even the most basic skills in this area. Maybe I should countersue jesus X for misrepresenting himself as the King of Kings and Lord of Lords, huh Ironsides? When has he done this? I believe this is merely showing your own biased opinions -- thinking that the name Jesus X automatically refers to one of the icons of the Christian faith is similar to assuming that a red star automatically refers to the soviet political movement. It appears that you are unable to come across old concepts in new setting without assuming they are one and the same. Or maybe you should get back to Assuring the Quality of Maozilla's I mean Netscape 6.x's Standards Compliance and shut your word hole. You would rather I stopped pointing out the flaws in your arguments, would you? I will take that as the utmost compliment -- evidence that my arguments are hurting your position. Thanks, -- Ian Hickson )\ _. - ._.) fL Netscape, Standards Compliance QA /. `- ' ( `--' +1 650 937 6593`- , ) - ) \ irc.mozilla.org:Hixie _ (.' \) (.' -' __
Re: New IE6.0 Build out
On Thu, 21 Jun 2001, Blake Ross wrote: Er, IE6 is just like 5 with some tweaks. Looks like they're standing still to me ;-) Well, they did add various features that Mozilla had first, like, say, the sidebar. And some more CSS1 support. -- Ian Hickson )\ _. - ._.) fL Netscape, Standards Compliance QA /. `- ' ( `--' +1 650 937 6593`- , ) - ) \ irc.mozilla.org:Hixie _ (.' \) (.' -' __
Re: Will Mozilla download Netscape Webmail for offline reading
Blake Ross wrote: Yeah, pretty much: You work on the stuff we don't want to, we'll take it and bundle it with a bunch of stuff that's proprietary, and you get nada. So long, sucker! Dude, you don't know what you're talking about. I know all too well of what I speak. Netscape is the largest contributor to Mozilla. You work on the stuff we don't want to doesn't make sense. No it doesn't, that's why it didn't really work out as Netscape had planned, and why they're ending up having to do most of the work themselves. I have never had any desire to use AIM, Netscape webmail, or AOL mail. What about other web-based mail systems? It'd sure be nice to be able to hook up to Hotmail or Yahoo mail or Google mail or whatever-mail with Mozilla, wouldn't it? Well, I mean if the mail portion actually was in working order. What do you think the chances are of such functionality being added to Maozilla, Mr. Ballard? Uh, I don't know, where's the bug you filed about it? I'd say pretty low, though, Exactly. we generally try to keep Mozilla non-commercialized where possible. Heheheyeah. What's commercial about hooking up to a web email service any moreso than to a POP3 one? Do you really think AOL is going to give their official Politburo stamp of approval on such anti-AOL's-bottom-line functionality? It really doesn't matter, it'd be up to mozilla.org... And who's running mozilla.org? Hello? Hellooo? Yep. Because it ain't 100% Open. It's whatever-AOL-decides-to-let-the-suckers-work-on-% Open. That's not true at all; you're making broad statements without providing any support. Contributors to Mozilla can work on whatever they want. Perhaps an AIM-compatible IM client? Yeah, didn't think so. I know because I was one for a year and a half (and still am, just from Netscape now). One of the Body. --Blake -- JTK Mine is the Kingdom of Heaven, where knowledge is King and lady luck is Queen.
Re: problems with java server pages (jsp)
This doesn't completely make sense. If jsp's are completely implemented on the server, then how do mouse over events occur. The main problem with http://www.nikonusa.com is that the pop-up menus don't appear. There is some java script in the web page, and maybe that is the part that is broken, but I think that I tend to have more problems when the site is serving java server pages than when I have html with javascript. Maybe this implies some linkage in the browser - I don't know; maybe their browser detect logic just doesn't like mozilla? Does someone know of a site that uses javascript solely to implement mouse over menus so I can perform this test? Or have any solutions in general to my problems? Chris Inacio Carlfish wrote: On Wed, 20 Jun 2001 23:40:06 -0400, Chris Inacio [EMAIL PROTECTED] somehow managed to type: Hello all, I have a problem using sites that generate mouse over menus with Java server pages. For example, http://www.nikonusa.com is not really naviagable with mozilla on my machine. I believe that I have Java installed correctly. I used the Windows installer, I have the mozilla java installed and I checked the plugins directory for the correct Java DLL's being there. Java Server Pages (JSP) are entirely interpreted on the server. To the web browser, they are indistinguishable from any other HTML page. Charles Miller
Re: problems with java server pages (jsp)
On Thu, 21 Jun 2001 21:24:08 -0400, Chris Inacio [EMAIL PROTECTED] somehow managed to type: This doesn't completely make sense. If jsp's are completely implemented on the server, then how do mouse over events occur. Java and Javascript are two totally separate entities. They have nothing to do with each other at all, other than a very unfortunate decision by Sun and Netscape to allow them to share a name. Bad Javascript is bad javascript, whether it's being generated by HTML, SHTML, JSP, PHP, ASP, CGI, or a million monkeys on typewriters. Charles Miller (Most Javascript-heavy pages seem to use the last option)
random name when saving file
hello, when I download a file, mozilla gives random names (like fh4oksqz.zip) and puts it in c:\windows\temp\ instead of the folder I wanted. It's like the option save file to disk and choose name doesn't work properly. A friend with same version doesn't seem to have the problem. So I suppose it must be some configuration problem. I use mozilla 0.9.1 Gecko/20010621 on WinME Recently I deleted Iexplorer with IEradicate to enhance performance. Maybe a clue? I tried everything, changing MIME types, upgrading to new version,... I even reinstalled IE 5.5, but no changes. any help? tnx! KmD
Re: problems with java server pages (jsp)
On Wed, 20 Jun 2001 23:40:06 -0400, Chris Inacio [EMAIL PROTECTED] somehow managed to type: I have a problem using sites that generate mouse over menus with Java server pages. For example, http://www.nikonusa.com is not really naviagable with mozilla on my machine. The page does not use standard DOM in its Javascript code. It uses either document.layers or document.all, neither of which are supported in Mozilla because they are not part of the W3C standard. If the page were re-coded according to the standard (using document.getElementById()), they would work in Mozilla. See http://sites.netscape.net/ekrockhome/upgrade/standards.html for more details. Charles Miller
Re: Will Mozilla download Netscape Webmail for offline reading
JTK wrote: That's not true at all; you're making broad statements without providing any support. Contributors to Mozilla can work on whatever they want. Perhaps an AIM-compatible IM client? Yeah, didn't think so. http://jabberzilla.mozdev.org/ - an AIM (and ICQ, and Yahoo, and IRC, and many other things) compatible IM client for mozilla. (Oh, and before you say that the fact that this is being developed outside mozilla.org means it will never be accepted into the main distribution... so far as far as I know nobody has tried to get it into the main distribution regardless of whether there's an AOL conspiracy to stop it. Wait until someone actually *tries* to get it accepted, and see whether AOL *actually* blocks it, before you make any such claims). Stuart.
Re: New IE6.0 Build out
JTK wrote: Marc Leger wrote: JTK [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... It's looking pretty polished folks, I suggest you take a look. The world ain't standing still while Maozilla figues out how to draw controls inside the lines. Get it where? I got it from Windows Update. And IIRC, it was a ~9MB download. Including OE6.0. Which reminds me, I haven't even looked at OE6.0. I wonder how it compares to Maozilla's mail/newsreader these days Nope, there is no new build on the Windows Update site. The last build posted there was 2462
Re: New IE6.0 Build out
JTK wrote: Huh? You mean where your Favorites are on the left side of the screen? That's been in IE forever. Yeah, but the Mozilla Sidebar is MUCH more than just a bookmarks pane. It is like a secondary mini-browser, displaying a set of content YOU define with ease. -- jesus X [ Booze-fueled paragon of pointless cruelty and wanton sadism. ] email [ jesusx @ who.net ] web [ http://burntelectrons.com ] [ Updated April 29, 2001 ] tag [ The Universe: It's everywhere you want to be. ] warning [ All your base are belong to us. ]
Re: Static Build
Stuart Ballard wrote: [snip] DLLs (or SOs on unix; don't know the Mac equivalent) Seeds? :) -- jesus X [ Booze-fueled paragon of pointless cruelty and wanton sadism. ] email [ jesusx @ who.net ] web [ http://burntelectrons.com ] [ Updated April 29, 2001 ] tag [ The Universe: It's everywhere you want to be. ] warning [ All your base are belong to us. ]
Re: HELLLOO!?!??!
JTK wrote: And by reduction, Netscape's choices have nothing to do with Mozilla. A known-false statement. but it's not false. Your choice to not believe it does not make it false. It merely makes you wrong. If Netscape decided to start adding blink at the beginning of every page so the whole damned screen blinked like an epileptic-fit inducing cartoon, so be it, it'd have zero impact on what direction Mozilla went in. If NEtscape decided to call their Browser BorkBorkScape and render all pages in mock-swedish, so be it as well. Mozilla would keep on trucking in it's current direction. Yes. If Netscape's choices had no effect on Maozilla, that would by simple induction require that Netscape had nothing to do with Maozilla. QED. No. If Netscape had NOTHING, in ANY SENSE, to do with Mozilla, then the relation could be comparable to the relationship between Mozilla and Dairy Queen. But, Netscape takes a snapshot of the Mozilla source, makes their own changes, bundles it up, and hawks it as NS6.x. Now, when Netscape decides to do this, it does not mean that Mozilla does anything. Netscape is a USER of Mozilla, but they do not control what Mozilla does, any more than Dairy Queen makes you buy that double chocolate dipped ice cream cone. They make ice cream, you decide if you want it double chocolate dipped or maybe you want butterscotch and strawberries. Mozilla makes it, Netscape uses it. ...shut your word hole. Is this really necessary? Or are you finding the truth closing in, and the only way to struggle for air is to misdirect our attention with petty verbal barbarism? -- jesus X [ Booze-fueled paragon of pointless cruelty and wanton sadism. ] email [ jesusx @ who.net ] web [ http://burntelectrons.com ] [ Updated April 29, 2001 ] tag [ The Universe: It's everywhere you want to be. ] warning [ All your base are belong to us. ]
Re: Netscape Doesn't Dial?
I had a similar problem when I installed NS6 and, before that, NS4.76. I fixed this by following Netscape Help document #19990112-3, Netscape will not pull up my dialer or any web pages. I can e-mail you a copy if you want me to. Alexander Sperduti wrote: Help! How can I configure Netscape 6.01 to dial up my ISP upon launch? It doesn't even try to dial. I'm using Win95 and I DO NOT want to load IE. TIA
Re: Static Build
JTK wrote: David Nickel wrote: Guten Tag!! In the builds newsgroup and I see also on the checkins page, they talk about static builds. Does anybody know what this is and what it does? Thank you for your help! David Nickel Static build refers to a build in which some of the DLLs (or shared objects if you're on one of those 'alternative' OSs) are built as static libraries and are statically linked into the program. What this does is effectively make the library an intergral part of the program, instead of a separate loadable module which the OS has to load at runtime and then 'link' into the main program, thus saving a bit of work at runtime. I don't believe there are separate static builds available, nor will there be, I think the plan is to just make some of the DLLs into static libraries wherever it makes sense *COUGH*somethingIsuggestedmonthsago*COUGH* in the main trunk. Thanks very much!
Re: Static Build
Stuart Ballard wrote: JTK wrote: Static build refers to a build in which some of the DLLs (or shared objects if you're on one of those 'alternative' OSs) are built as static libraries and are statically linked into the program. What this does is effectively make the library an intergral part of the program, instead of a separate loadable module which the OS has to load at runtime and then 'link' into the main program, thus saving a bit of work at runtime. I don't believe there are separate static builds available, nor will there be, I think the plan is to just make some of the DLLs into static libraries wherever it makes sense *COUGH*somethingIsuggestedmonthsago*COUGH* in the main trunk. see http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=46775 for discussion of static builds[1]. They aren't turned on by default yet - I'm not sure if there's a bug tracking this or not. There are definitely still some open issues (see recent Performance meeting agenda posting in n.p.m.performance for specifics). In the interim it is possible to create a static build with some compile time options, but I'm not sure you would want to right now due to the outstanding issues. I don't know if there's anywhere that you can download these experimental builds from, but there might be. The plan, as I understand it (I could be very wrong - I just watch from the outside), is to have just a few big DLLs (or SOs on unix; don't know the Mac equivalent) rather than lots and lots of little ones as we do now. This should save considerable time on startup[2]... Stuart. Footnotes mostly intended for JTK's benefit: [1] Having suggested it months ago, I suppose you noticed the existance of this bugzilla bug, and also noted the date it was filed and how many months people have already been working on it... [2] This is just one more major contributor to startup time compared to, say, K-Meleon... that has absolutely nothing to do with XUL. Thanks! I did not realize it had been in the works for so long. I thought it was something brand new.
Re: HELLLOO!?!??!
On 22 Jun 2001, Carlfish wrote: On 21 Jun 2001 23:42:47 GMT, Ian Hickson [EMAIL PROTECTED] somehow managed to type: Individual choices may or may not have any relation to Mozilla. For example, Netscape's choice to provide its employees with Indian food on Wednesdays is totally independent of anything to do with Mozilla. I don't know. Indian food can have a significant effect on productivity. Sure, but that is independent of Mozilla. We might be working on the 4.x source code, and we would still be eating indian. Indeed I know this is the case, since the same food is fed to the 4.x sustaining team. ;-) -- Ian Hickson )\ _. - ._.) fL Netscape, Standards Compliance QA /. `- ' ( `--' +1 650 937 6593`- , ) - ) \ irc.mozilla.org:Hixie _ (.' \) (.' -' __
Re: New IE6.0 Build out
On Thu, 21 Jun 2001, JTK wrote: Ian Hickson wrote: On Thu, 21 Jun 2001, Blake Ross wrote: Er, IE6 is just like 5 with some tweaks. Looks like they're standing still to me ;-) Well, they did add various features that Mozilla had first, like, say, the sidebar. Huh? You mean where your Favorites are on the left side of the screen? That's been in IE forever. No, I mean the user-customisable sidebar to which you can add custom content. However, Blake tells me that IE have retracted this feature in the most recent builds, so forget I mentioned it. -- Ian Hickson )\ _. - ._.) fL Netscape, Standards Compliance QA /. `- ' ( `--' +1 650 937 6593`- , ) - ) \ irc.mozilla.org:Hixie _ (.' \) (.' -' __
Re: New IE6.0 Build out
Huh? You mean where your Favorites are on the left side of the screen? That's been in IE forever. Yeah, but the Mozilla Sidebar is MUCH more than just a bookmarks pane. It is like a secondary mini-browser, displaying a set of content YOU define with ease. Well, it is same in IE, and I think from IE4 - you may add toolbard and pannels, which could be anything you want, including another instance of the browser itself. I think by the time IE4 was out, no one knew what mozilla is -- -- Regards, Waleri
Re: Newsgroups restructure
DeMoN_LaG wrote: JTK wrote: snip This better? I have to apologize, I am not nearly nerdly enough to have known that you needed a space after the two minuses. And I'm using a web-based newsgroup reader, which Maozilla won't interface to to do such wonderful things for me. *gasp* You are going to say that Mozilla can't access a web based news service through the news client??? Oh my god, how has this feature been left out. I mean, IE has had this for, what, 5, 10 years now? Oh? IE doesn't have this feature? What is this? No browser/news client anywhere has this feature? Oh, so you are a jackass too? Wow, I'm impresssed. You lost the argument for yourself. Genius Actually Mozilla is very close. A couple of hackers have developed a Mozilla add-on called forumzilla which gives the user a mail-news interface for reading weblogs like mozillazine, kuro5hin, slashdot, etc. I imagine that a web news client like google could be made to work in this (although I'm not sure what the value would be). --Asa
