Re: Call to arms, sorta
On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 02:38:17PM -0700, Joseph McAllister wrote: Not to mention the fact that those bodies won't work with most of the lenses people have; DA lenses don't fit on a Spotmatic, and only work wide open on a K1000. I don't think we need to invent obstacles to make it hard for people to participate. Send an appropriate lens along with the camera. If I donated a spotty, I'd mount a supertak 50/1.4 and would suggest something similar for a K1000. I'd prefer the likes of a FA* 250-600/5.6 ED [IF] zoom, or at least a DA* 300/4 ED [IF] SDM to be shipped around for use with our DSLR camera bodies. We could then compare bird photos, cormorants even! So who has the lenses to contribute? (Can you tell I just got a gimbal mount head) Joseph McAllister pentax...@mac.com AFAIK I'm the only list contributor who owns the 250-600, although there are a few folks out there with the 600/f4. But I don't think it's going on any trips around the place (even though at present it doesn't get all that much use). If you want to stop by the next time you're in the SF Bay area, though, we could take it out and see what wildlife we could find ... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Leica M9
On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 11:30:05PM +0100, Bob W wrote: Don't you have any kind of consumer protection over there? I mean, for a retailer to be allowed to turn away a faulty product after a week or so is disgraceful. Last August - 10 months ago - I bought a netbook from amazon.co.uk. It's been heavily used since then, on a daily basis. Last week it stopped working and today I found out it's a problem with the motherboard, so I phoned Amazon, told them the problem and they said 'ok, send it back. That model's no longer available so we'll refund you in full'. I told them I was going to wipe the hard disk first, to remove all personal data, and they were fine with that. Great service, but they are in any case obliged by law in Europe to do this. But surely that's why we pay a hefty premium - because our first point of complaint is with the retailer. I bought my G11 a few weeks ago at BestBuy in Virginia. While in New York on business I accidentally spilled a collegues cocktail all over it. Needless to say it stopped working. I went back to BestBuy on my return, after gathering the original receipt and packaging, and told the return clerk that the camera stopped working after a week. He appologized and replaced the camera without asking any further questions. -- Christian - http://404notfound.blogspot.com http://birdofthemoment.blogspot.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pentax 645D apparently introduced in Canada
2010/5/19 William Robb war...@gmail.com: My pusher is already working on getting me a demo camera to play with for a while. I have rather a love/hate relationship with him. LOL. Me too. Already a month ago he indicated he'd try to get one on hand just after the summer vacation. If I know him right he'll call me sooner than that... -- http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/ http://alunfoto.blogspot.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pentax 645D apparently introduced in Canada
2010/5/18 John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com: Yeah, I want one too, but impulse control has become a lot easier since I paid off the Visa, closed the account chopped the card up. Well if that camera was within your credit ceiling... :-) Maybe someday. I'm still saving my pennies. Yes. And unless those pennies don't find other uses. Like investment in taking pictures with existing gear, for example. -- http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/ http://alunfoto.blogspot.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: Spaghetti Sauce
Doctor says I've got to eat less processed meat (preserved with salt or sugar), and more fresh fruits vegetables. Been good, doing what he says, but I can't give up meat entirely, so that means I got to find un-processed meat. Ground beef ain't processed is it? Anyway I'm making home-made spaghetti sauce tonight for freezing. Nothing real fancy. Two pounds ground beef, half pound of mild pork sausage (not enough to add significant salt, but just a little flavor), can of stewed tomatoes, two cans italian style diced tomatoes with garlic and basil, can of tomatoe paste - all the tomato stuff is low sodium. Some spices for flavor, mostly pepper. Half a chopped up onion. Secret ingredient - half a glass of red wine poured into the chef. I feel GOOD! That ingredient's no secret! It's a prerequisite for enjoyable cooking. I normally go with several glasses... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: Chicago
IMO, one cannot reasonably define art solely in terms of the artist, the work, or the intent of the artist, any more than one can reasonably define art solely in terms of the viewer/recipient/?. Art is a collaboration between the artist, the work, and the viewer. Both humans must be engaged, though not necessarily satisfied, for the work to achieve the status of art. That would exclude a great deal of work, such as the Lascaux cave paintings and Shaker furniture, that is now generally considered to be art, for whatever reason, but which could not possibly have been produced with such a collaboration in mind. Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Spaghetti Sauce
On 19 May 2010 05:08, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote: Ground beef ain't processed is it? Not in the way the doctor means. OTOH, much American beef (maybe other meats, too; I'm not sure) is classified as not fit for human consumtion in the UK/EU due to high levels of growth hormones and antibiotics. It's not even allowed in to be made into pet food. You might want to check your sources, as opposed to your sauces. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Spaghetti Sauce
2010/5/19 John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com: Doctor says I've got to eat less processed meat (preserved with salt or sugar), and more fresh fruits vegetables. Good plan and you get to lose so many other unpleasant ingredients alongside Been good, doing what he says, but I can't give up meat entirely, so that means I got to find un-processed meat. Go find a real butcher who can still tell a meathook from a food additive legalese § sign Ground beef ain't processed is it? Not by the common definition of processed as in mangled into something completely different to work with our oversaturated, desensitized, spammed tastebuds. It is only cut into little pieces. Nothing you couldn't do yourself with the right equipment. Anyway I'm making home-made spaghetti sauce tonight for freezing. Again, good plan. Be sure to make it at home =P Nothing real fancy. Two pounds ground beef, half pound of mild pork sausage (not enough to add significant salt, but just a little flavor), IMHO skip the pork sausage, pork is the worst kind of meat for humans for a whole multitude of reasons. Get the flavor elsewhere. Use spices instead. Some spices for flavor, mostly pepper. There you go, you know it: Give the beef a good kneading, work in black pepper, cayenne pepper, sweet pepper powder, some ground thyme maybe although herbs should be added later in the process, i.e. after adding the tomatos. For a salt substitute you can find yeast based broth powder, it works fine and adds body at a fraction of the salt load. Also, let some (to taste) whole chili peppers simmer in the sauce for a while. Half a chopped up onion. MORE. More onion. Adds body and saturation. Reduces the need for meat. Buy less meat. Use butter or vegetable fat, no cold extraction olive oil, fry them hard for a moment until they get glassy, then add the beef in small batches so you fry it instead of steaming it in its own juice. Add garlic after the first batch of beef. After the last batch, crank the heat for a moment to get some more roast flavors, then pour in 5 fl. oz. or so of broth, reduce heat, add tomatos, let simmer for quite some time, reduce about halfway, then start adding herbs, let gently simmer. Let cool and sit for a bit before freezing. BTW, educate your taste, try unusual ingredients such as a dash of Worcestershire sauce. can of stewed tomatoes, two cans italian style diced tomatoes with garlic and basil, can of tomatoe paste - all the tomato stuff is low sodium. Use fresh garlic instead, it is much healthier than garlic extract powder. Basil is OK if you can't find fresh. It isn't that crucial in the first place. Secret ingredient - half a glass of red wine poured into the chef. More. Good for your heart =) I feel GOOD! Enjoy =) Cheers Ecke -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Cameras in a Crowd, an Observation
On 18/5/10, Charles Robinson, discombobulated, unleashed: in China recently, I would scan the crowd for interesting faces... and if I saw a Pentax I'd hold up my K10D and say Pentax! and give 'em a thumbs up. Usually got a smile. In Chinese, a thumbs-up means hello there big boy, see you in the alleyway next to the Wang Dong takeaway in 5 minutes... -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche -- http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Spaghetti Sauce
On 19/5/10, John Sessoms, discombobulated, unleashed: half pound of mild pork sausage If it has additives, it's processed! -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche -- http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Re: Leica M9
On 5/19/2010 2:45 AM, Christian Skofteland wrote:
On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 11:30:05PM +0100, Bob W wrote:
Don't you have any kind of consumer protection over there? I
mean, for
a retailer to be allowed to turn away a faulty product after
a week or
so is disgraceful.
Last August - 10 months ago - I bought a netbook from amazon.co.uk.
It's been heavily used since then, on a daily basis. Last week it
stopped working and today I found out it's a problem with the
motherboard, so I phoned Amazon, told them the problem and they said
'ok, send it back. That model's no longer available so we'll
refund you
in full'. I told them I was going to wipe the hard disk first, to
remove all personal data, and they were fine with that.
Great service, but they are in any case obliged by law in
Europe to do this.
But surely that's why we pay a hefty premium - because our
first point of complaint is with the retailer.
I bought my G11 a few weeks ago at BestBuy in Virginia. While in New York on
business I accidentally spilled a collegues
cocktail all over it. Needless to say it stopped working. I went back to
BestBuy on my return, after gathering the
original receipt and packaging, and told the return clerk that the camera stopped
working after a week.
He appologized and replaced the camera without asking any further questions.
If the retailer refuses to take it back he's a bad guy. Yet I think,
(understatement), spilling a drink on it voids the warranty, and rightly
so.
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Re: Pentax: ...we don't want to be seen as the same as everyone else
Anthony Farr wrote: On 7 May 2010 18:54, Derby Chang der...@iinet.net.au wrote: Anthony Farr wrote: The new Pentax theme song: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DJ69kSzms1wfeature=related That certainly triggers some long-sleeping synapses. I was much more partial to Monica, but Iggy still makes me high-kick once in a while. D But surely you're too young to remember Jimmy and the Boys, Derby. One of my many regrets is never having seen them live, although I was the right age at the time. Then again, their shows were renowned for extreme violence on stage and in the audience, as well as between the stage and the audience. Missing them may have been good for my health. As compensation, I did catch the Pardon-Me-Boys with both Ignatius and Monica on stage at a Valentine's Day Ball circa 1990. Very good, IMO. regards, Anthony You are very kind, but I am certainly of that age to remember 70's aussie post punk. But you are right. Iggy is a suave suave man. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UwGfyf87dHI -- der...@iinet.net.au http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Chicago
On 5/19/2010 4:17 AM, Bob W wrote:
IMO, one cannot reasonably define art solely in terms of the
artist, the work, or the intent of the artist, any more than
one can reasonably define art solely in terms of the
viewer/recipient/?. Art is a collaboration between the
artist, the work, and the viewer. Both humans must be
engaged, though not necessarily satisfied, for the work to
achieve the status of art.
That would exclude a great deal of work, such as the Lascaux cave paintings
and Shaker furniture, that is now generally considered to be art, for
whatever reason, but which could not possibly have been produced with such a
collaboration in mind.
Bob
I don't know about the cave paintings, a lot of religious art was
created for a viewer other than a human viewer, not that human viewers
can't appreciate it. But that isn't the point really.
Shaker furniture is still crafts, a high level of crafts but still
crafts. To call them art debases them. To display shaker furniture in
glass cases and not use it for their intended purpose misses the point.
The original makers would be appalled.
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PESO not cat, not bird , not dog ...... goldfish
Some like motor parts, I like goldfish let's keep diversity on my favorite list . I cropped the bottom part I take a lot of pictures of my aquariums ; a good way to learn how my K100Dsuper works in low lights and high contrasts , using a 35-70 macro F zoom I had from my dad http://www.flickr.com/photos/la_meduse/4621325240/sizes/m/ all comment welcome dominique -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Spaghetti Sauce
On 5/19/2010 4:23 AM, mike wilson wrote:
On 19 May 2010 05:08, John Sessomsjsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote:
Ground beef ain't processed is it?
Not in the way the doctor means. OTOH, much American beef (maybe
other meats, too; I'm not sure) is classified as not fit for human
consumtion in the UK/EU due to high levels of growth hormones and
antibiotics. It's not even allowed in to be made into pet food. You
might want to check your sources, as opposed to your sauces.
There's a lot about the EU that's a bit off. I've eaten in France and
come away wondering was that Beef or Horse? I know what the menu said...
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Re: OT: Spaghetti Sauce
2010/5/19 Brian Walters supera1...@fastmail.fm: Half a glass!! In my house there's no such thing as half a glass It's okay, Brian. Just always refer to the top half! :-) -- http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/ http://alunfoto.blogspot.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Spaghetti Sauce
2010/5/19 P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com: There's a lot about the EU that's a bit off. I've eaten in France and come away wondering was that Beef or Horse? I know what the menu said... I think there are some sayings about how to screw foreign tourists too. :-) -- http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/ http://alunfoto.blogspot.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Spaghetti Sauce
Bran Everseeking wrote: On Wed, 19 May 2010 00:08:51 -0400 John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote: Ground beef ain't processed is it? not in a way that impacts you ...but definitely in a way that impacts the cow. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO not cat, not bird , not dog ...... goldfish
On 19/5/10, Madame RD, discombobulated, unleashed: I cropped the bottom part I take a lot of pictures of my aquariums ; a good way to learn how my K100Dsuper works in low lights and high contrasts , using a 35-70 macro F zoom I had from my dad http://www.flickr.com/photos/la_meduse/4621325240/sizes/m/ Nice shot, it has good scale. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche -- http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Chicago
frank theriault wrote: On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 11:34 PM, Fernando fer.p...@gmail.com wrote: Hey, I know that trying to define art is an exercise in futility, but I still can have fun refuting the arguments of the ones that are trying to define it ;-) True. BTW, it's nearing midnight, so I'm not really going out to take photos (although moonlight over the lake might be nice!). I was just making a point is all... Today's post in The Online Photographer is apropos: Nobody, I think, ought to read poetry, or look at pictures or statues, who cannot find a great deal more in them than the poet or artist has actually expressed. Their highest merit is suggestiveness. Nathaniel Hawthorne -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Chicago
On 19/05/2010, P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote: Shaker furniture is still crafts, a high level of crafts but still crafts. To call them art debases them. To display shaker furniture in glass cases and not use it for their intended purpose misses the point. The original makers would be appalled. I wonder if Picasso would be thrilled or appalled to learn that a single painting of his making fetched a cool $A116.2 million, approximately 194x the median Sydney house price (which is about 1/10 of the median NSW household income)? -- Rob Studdert (Digital Image Studio) Tel: +61-418-166-870 UTC +10 Hours Gmail, eBay, Skype, Twitter, Facebook, Picasa: distudio -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Spaghetti Sauce
On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 5:05 AM, Cotty cotty...@mac.com wrote: On 19/5/10, John Sessoms, discombobulated, unleashed: half pound of mild pork sausage If it has additives, it's processed! I think that sausage and cured meats are the ones to avoid in your situation, John. IIRC, they'll be loaded with salts and nitrites, which are real bad for you. I think a lovely vegan pasta sauce is the way to go! ;-) cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Chicago
On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 7:08 AM, Rob Studdert distudio.p...@gmail.com wrote: On 19/05/2010, P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote: Shaker furniture is still crafts, a high level of crafts but still crafts. To call them art debases them. To display shaker furniture in glass cases and not use it for their intended purpose misses the point. The original makers would be appalled. I wonder if Picasso would be thrilled or appalled to learn that a single painting of his making fetched a cool $A116.2 million,snip He'd be appalled that ~he~ didn't make that profit... ;-) cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - On the Wing
It's OK, I'm not a participating member of the bourgeois culture. Jack --- On Tue, 5/18/10, frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: From: frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com Subject: PESO - On the Wing To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net Date: Tuesday, May 18, 2010, 8:10 PM Not the sharpest, but hell, they were flying fast! http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2010/05/on-wing.html Well, fast for ducks, anyway... ;-) Hope you enjoy. Comments welcome. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO Dusk Harbour Pano
On 18/05/2010, Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com wrote: Lovely image Rob. From amoving ferry? Impressive! Why 2 MP jpegs? Buffer size in the K-x? You'll be giving Boris a run for it with the A50/1.2. Hi Bob, Thanks, I use my A50/1.2 quite a lot with the K-x, I have two favoured lite kits, A24/2.8 + A50/1.2 and DA35/2.8 Macro + FA77/1.8LTD. I hope Boris is enjoying his A50/1.2 as I have enjoyed mine over the last 20 years+ ;-) I actually always shoot RAW+ and have the jpg set at 2MP, I find that I don't need much more and if I do it's always better going back to the RAW file in any case, the buffer on the K-x has not been even a slight hindrance to me. The following link is a crop out of one of the RAW files from the pano set to show you how much detail would be available should I decide that the pano deserves further attention. http://home.swiftdsl.com.au/~aglcnews/temp/IMGX01743.jpg On 19/05/2010, eckinator eckina...@gmail.com wrote: whoa... impressive... I had no idea this could be done at relative ease very nice and being from the Waterkant myself I am drawn to harbour views as it is thanks for sharing Thanks, the technical side is the easy bit especially with the right tools. On 19/05/2010, P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote: You are a hateful man, I cannot afford another camera at this time. (Also I don't /need/ to try to learn this particular skill). Who do you work for anyway? Beelzebub? LOL, I work for whomever wishes to pay appropriately for my skills. On 19/05/2010, Bruce Dayton bkday...@daytonphoto.com wrote: Wonderful pano - you have the techniques down pretty well to produce even in less than ideal conditions. Thanks Bruce, it nearly didn't happen, I made one failed attempt, screwed up the manual exposure somehow, really under then I gave it another go, spot on. I just wish it were a little better levelled, it sort of puts me off working further with it, though I could potentially shoot it again (more leisurely from the docks next time). On 19/05/2010, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote: If I had not read your tech details to begin with, just come at the image cold, I would have thought I'd finally found an HDR done right. VERY well lit. Well done. Glad you appreciated the shot, that's what it's all about, thanks. On 19/05/2010, Christian Skofteland pterali...@aim.com wrote: Nice pano (as usual), Rob. The exposure is perfect (as usual). You can clearly see the Harbour View Hotel where The wife, Alex and I stayed in 2003 when we met you for dinner the first time. Thanks Christian, if you checked the 1:1 crop up this reply a little you'll see the amount of detail captured, it's quite impressive for a crappy little Pentax camera ;-) Guess it's my turn soon, we've met on my turf three times I think? Cheers and thanks for taking the time to voice your opinions. -- Rob Studdert (Digital Image Studio) Tel: +61-418-166-870 UTC +10 Hours Gmail, eBay, Skype, Twitter, Facebook, Picasa: distudio -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO - Yet another Chicago view
Christine Aguila wrote: Hi Ann: Very nice GESO; the scenes from the bus trip are great. The building on the north side is in the neighborhood called Uptown. The street it's on is called Broadway. You either just passed or were about to approach the Wilson stop on the Red line depending on the direction you were going at the time you made the picture. The facade on that building has been redone; it was pretty run down at one point. I work a bit south and a block west of this building on Wilson Ave. Cheers, Christine I thought it was on Broadway... but wasn't sure. I can't remember if we called that uptown when I lived there... there was just the Near North and the North Side - um, I think. Thanks for the details -- I was out doing my flea market thing... hit a Salvation Army on Broadway that I saw from the bus.. which caused me to miss getting to Andersenville... :-( I love my home town ann - Original Message - From: Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2010 3:07 PM Subject: GESO - Yet another Chicago view http://annsan.smugmug.com/On-the-Road-or-On-Foot/Bus-Trip-to-Chicago-May-2010/12194964_YYtFD And getting there and comping back... I'm better at editing after waiting a year but these kinda tell the story - although on longer reflection I'm sure I'll dump some of these and replace with others.. Have to get back to retrieving funds now I'm home. IT always costs more than you think it is going to to go away but , boy, am I glad I did. Adding to the cheers of the crowd for the perps of the splendid event at Dankhaus -- rah rah Mark, Christine, Sue, Doug et al...! ann -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO - Yeller Feller
This isn't really a PESO, but I didn't want to screw up those that filter PESOs into a separate file by calling it a non-PESO or something like that. This is not being presented for it's artistic or technical merit, I just want to know what type of bird this is. It's small (maybe three inches excluding tail?) and very quick (as most small birds tend to be). There are many of them at the waterfront park near my place, but capturing one (with camera, that is) has so far proved elusive: http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.com/2010/05/yeller-feller.html Can anyone ID this little guy? Hopefully a better photo will follow one day. Thanks! cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - On the Wing
On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 7:21 AM, Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com wrote: It's OK, I'm not a participating member of the bourgeois culture. :-) cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Leica M9
It should still bother him. A Leica should be a dream purchase. They charge top dollar and they are competing with some of the best pro cameras. The very idea that it just wouldn't work right is almost inconceivable. Maybe I'm just being naive here but why else would anyone buy a Leica if not for superb if maybe eclectic performance? In terms of actual usage I'll bet that the Canon and Nikon offerings in that range are better all around workhorse cameras. On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 3:42 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi gdigio...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 10:46 AM, Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote: On 5/18/2010 8:20 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: It's always sad to hear reports of such a mess, but I hear them about every manufacturer from time to time. Nikon, Canon, Panasonic, Sony, Pentax ... all of them. I'm just glad I've only rarely needed service. ;-) Godfrey, there seems to be a minor difference in Jeffery's case. ... Just a matter of degree. I expect better service when I pay premium prices for things like a Leica, and to get poor service from them is more notable than from high volume outfits like Nikon/Canon or even Pentax by comparison. It obviously still burns for Jeffery, and his attitude seems like mine with regard to Sigma equipment. Only difference is that I never spent much money on Sigma stuff ... I never got any that was satisfactory in the first place. -- Godfrey godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Steve Desjardins -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Chicago
frank theriault wrote: On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 7:08 AM, Rob Studdert distudio.p...@gmail.com wrote: On 19/05/2010, P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote: Shaker furniture is still crafts, a high level of crafts but still crafts. To call them art debases them. To display shaker furniture in glass cases and not use it for their intended purpose misses the point. The original makers would be appalled. I wonder if Picasso would be thrilled or appalled to learn that a single painting of his making fetched a cool $A116.2 million,snip He'd be appalled that ~he~ didn't make that profit... ;-) cheers, frank I think you are right, Frank :-) ann (really had quite enough is it Art' discussions for a life time back in the 70's) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO MCA Pano
Hi Team, Last pano from the weekend, a bit left field this time. The image was captured hand held using K-x and smc PENTAX-A 50mm F1.2 f4 1/160, ISO 200 and assembled using Autopano rendered in a rectilinear projection. The source files consisted of 2 landscape 2MP in-camera JPG files. The output file contrast was enhanced using the curves tool then the image saturation was reduced. http://home.swiftdsl.com.au/~aglcnews/temp/Pano-IMGX01621sm.jpg Roxy Paine - Neuron Hope you enjoy. Cheers, -- Rob Studdert (Digital Image Studio) Tel: +61-418-166-870 UTC +10 Hours Gmail, eBay, Skype, Twitter, Facebook, Picasa: distudio -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Yeller Feller
Male Goldfinch Aren't they sweet? ann frank theriault wrote: This isn't really a PESO, but I didn't want to screw up those that filter PESOs into a separate file by calling it a non-PESO or something like that. This is not being presented for it's artistic or technical merit, I just want to know what type of bird this is. It's small (maybe three inches excluding tail?) and very quick (as most small birds tend to be). There are many of them at the waterfront park near my place, but capturing one (with camera, that is) has so far proved elusive: http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.com/2010/05/yeller-feller.html Can anyone ID this little guy? Hopefully a better photo will follow one day. Thanks! cheers, frank -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: photographing bright red, dayglo pink and orange
Larry, Shooting RAW and using LR2, I find that the Luminance controls are my friends for these colors. Dialing back the luminance does wonders at restoring color fidelity and detail. Rick http://photo.net/photos/RickW --- On Mon, 5/17/10, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: From: Larry Colen l...@red4est.com Subject: photographing bright red, dayglo pink and orange To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Date: Monday, May 17, 2010, 4:42 PM I was asked to do some photo sessions at a party this weekend. I tried to take care not to blow out the red channel when I was setting the exposure, but when I looked at the photos in LR on my mac the reds seemed somewhat orangey, and the dayglow pink and the dayglow orange had lost a lot of their pop and their saturation. Was this a case of my misreading the histogram, or the histogram being based on JPEG and not RAW so it wasn't really showing the red channel blowing out? In future situations, should I leave more headroom in the exposure? Interestingly, on my work PC, the red doesn't seem quite as orangey as it did at home, but that may be because it's a 600 pixel wide version rather than a 24 iMac display, different curves or something: http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/4613138036/sizes/o/in/set-72157623949690373/ In a related issue, I'd like to get a 23 or so vertical second display for my iMac for working on images in portrait composition. Has anyone recently gone through the research shopping for one? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Leica M9
I bought an Epson 2000P printer soon after they came out. It arrived DOA. I contacted Adorama.com (where I bought it), and they gave me a long list of moronic things to do that stretched out for several days (such as make sure that it is plugged in, that I'm not in the middle of a blackout, that there is ink in the cartridge). When they had delayed me for enough days, they told me that I missed the opportunity to return it...the maximum number of days had transpired. They were counting the number of days since the purchase, which of course was about 6 days before I received it. So Epson sent me a refurb. It's pretty hard to hardball them when they are 1,000 miles away, so I try to buy most things locally. Unfortunately, when what you are looking for is something other than a Canon Rebel, you have to order from out of state. On May 18, 2010, at 2:32 PM, Bob W wrote: Don't you have any kind of consumer protection over there? I mean, for a retailer to be allowed to turn away a faulty product after a week or so is disgraceful. Last August - 10 months ago - I bought a netbook from amazon.co.uk. It's been heavily used since then, on a daily basis. Last week it stopped working and today I found out it's a problem with the motherboard, so I phoned Amazon, told them the problem and they said 'ok, send it back. That model's no longer available so we'll refund you in full'. I told them I was going to wipe the hard disk first, to remove all personal data, and they were fine with that. Great service, but they are in any case obliged by law in Europe to do this. Bob They do have it written somewhere. In fact I think it was included with the documentation I received when I bought my K20D. I made sure that I'd have no problems if it proved unsuitable, or DOA, as I needed it for an assignment. On 5/18/2010 2:40 PM, Jeffery Smith wrote: Do they have that written somewhere? I think that the early problems with the M8 were probably abundantly obvious to BH at the time. It certainly was well documented on the web that many cameras were breaking down very quickly. There is an adage that you should never buy the first version of anything, and that seems to have applied to the M8. On May 18, 2010, at 1:25 PM, P. J. Alling wrote: BH photo gives you a week or so, (I can't remember how long exactly), and a couple hundred exposures before giving you a problem with a return. Dead after 20 exposures, is well within that return policy. On 5/18/2010 2:12 PM, Jeffery Smith wrote: Post Katrina there were no places in this part of the state stocking the M8. I bought it from BH and was referred to Leica since it did not arrive dead on arrival. It took about 20 exposures before it died. On May 18, 2010, at 12:51 PM, John Sessoms wrote: From: Jeffery Smith I got flamed on the Leica Users Group forum for mentioning this, but my M8's were anything but reliable. My first one died after about a week, and Leica ignored all of my phone calls and emails until I finally contacted the president of the company personally. If you aren't a professional photographer, you can forget about customer service from Leica. You don't exist. The second M8 body would not recognize any of the memory cards I used. Leica blamed the memory cards and refused to repair or replace the camera. I bought every different brand of memory card listed as compatible on Leica's site, and all gave me a no memory card error until I removed the battery, waited a few minutes, and then reinserted the battery (which apparently rebooted the camera). I had to repeat this every time I wanted to shoot a frame. Once the camera was turned off or turned itself off, the no memory card error reappeared. Until a new firmware upgrade appeared last year, the M8 just sat in a drawer. The firmware upgrade seems to have fixed the memory card problem. Who did you buy the camera from? I mean, NYC mail-order, local dealer or direct from Leica USA? If I bought a camera that only worked for a week, I'd start with whoever I bought it from, and put the onus on them to make it right. Same for one that wouldn't work at all from the get-go. The dealer should have more leverage with the manufacturer, and if they don't it's still not MY problem. They sold it, they're responsible for making good. I prefer to deal locally whenever I can, simply because if something DOES go wrong, I get more stress relief if there's someone I can look in the eye while I'm yelling at him. I had some problems one time with a major NYC mail-order house getting a problem fixed, but in retrospect the problem had more to do with the difficulties of trying to communicate three ways (dealer, manufacturer me) across 9 time zones by email. They did finally understood the problem and got it sorted out for me. I would, and have bought from
Re: Chicago
On 2010-05-19 0:59, Larry Colen wrote: Following the advice of Strunk White to get rid of any unnecessary words, that sentence should read: One cannot reasonably define art. I find that art is easy to define. What I find difficult is to get two or more people to agree on a definition. :-) -- Thanks, DougF (KG4LMZ) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Yeller Feller
American Gold Finch. One of my favorite targets..with a camera. http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=500 Jack --- On Wed, 5/19/10, frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: From: frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com Subject: PESO - Yeller Feller To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net Date: Wednesday, May 19, 2010, 4:31 AM This isn't really a PESO, but I didn't want to screw up those that filter PESOs into a separate file by calling it a non-PESO or something like that. This is not being presented for it's artistic or technical merit, I just want to know what type of bird this is. It's small (maybe three inches excluding tail?) and very quick (as most small birds tend to be). There are many of them at the waterfront park near my place, but capturing one (with camera, that is) has so far proved elusive: http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.com/2010/05/yeller-feller.html Can anyone ID this little guy? Hopefully a better photo will follow one day. Thanks! cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Cameras in a Crowd, an Observation
On May 19, 2010, at 4:02, Cotty wrote: On 18/5/10, Charles Robinson, discombobulated, unleashed: in China recently, I would scan the crowd for interesting faces... and if I saw a Pentax I'd hold up my K10D and say Pentax! and give 'em a thumbs up. Usually got a smile. In Chinese, a thumbs-up means hello there big boy, see you in the alleyway next to the Wang Dong takeaway in 5 minutes... Hmmm... Good thing I was on a moving vehicle with a crowd of friends. :-) -Charles -- Charles Robinson - charl...@visi.com Minneapolis, MN http://charles.robinsontwins.org http://www.facebook.com/charles.robinson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Spaghetti Sauce
On May 18, 2010, at 23:30, Brian Walters wrote: On Wed, 19 May 2010 00:08 -0400, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote: Secret ingredient - half a glass of red wine poured into the chef. Half a glass!! In my house there's no such thing as half a glass In my house there's barely such a thing as half a bottle. -Charles -- Charles Robinson - charl...@visi.com Minneapolis, MN http://charles.robinsontwins.org http://www.facebook.com/charles.robinson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Spaghetti Sauce
I've had that feeling after dinner in a restaurant in Prague, too. Whatever it was...it was tasty. :-\ -p On 5/19/2010 5:12 AM, P. J. Alling wrote: There's a lot about the EU that's a bit off. I've eaten in France and come away wondering was that Beef or Horse? I know what the menu said... No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.819 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2882 - Release Date: 05/18/10 13:26:00 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Yeller Feller
Frank, He's a Goldfinch and he loves thistle seeds. They come up to a feeder at out kitchen window - not shy at all. Regards, Bob S. On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 6:31 AM, frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: This isn't really a PESO, but I didn't want to screw up those that filter PESOs into a separate file by calling it a non-PESO or something like that. This is not being presented for it's artistic or technical merit, I just want to know what type of bird this is. It's small (maybe three inches excluding tail?) and very quick (as most small birds tend to be). There are many of them at the waterfront park near my place, but capturing one (with camera, that is) has so far proved elusive: http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.com/2010/05/yeller-feller.html Can anyone ID this little guy? Hopefully a better photo will follow one day. Thanks! cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: Spaghetti Sauce
From: Bob W Secret ingredient - half a glass of red wine poured into the chef. I feel GOOD! That ingredient's no secret! It's a prerequisite for enjoyable cooking. I normally go with several glasses... I don't drink much any more, and my tolerance is way down as a result. That was enough to make me mellow, but not enough to make me stumble. ;-D -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
My favorite phrase
Only semi-OT because it IS about a Pentax: My favorite phrase: Out for Delivery. Any hour now my new K7 will be sitting on my desk here at work... with the battery charging up. Oh boy! -Charles -- Charles Robinson - charl...@visi.com Minneapolis, MN http://charles.robinsontwins.org http://www.facebook.com/charles.robinson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Chicago
On 5/19/2010 7:08 AM, Rob Studdert wrote:
On 19/05/2010, P. J. Allingwebstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote:
Shaker furniture is still crafts, a high level of crafts but still crafts.
To call them art debases them. To display shaker furniture in glass cases
and not use it for their intended purpose misses the point. The original
makers would be appalled.
I wonder if Picasso would be thrilled or appalled to learn that a
single painting of his making fetched a cool $A116.2 million,
approximately 194x the median Sydney house price (which is about 1/10
of the median NSW household income)?
I think he'd laugh all the way to the bank. Near the end of his life
he'd scrawl a couple of lines on a napkin, sign it and sell it for a
couple Hundred Thousand Dollars. It may be apocryphal, but I've heard
he always paid with Checks as no one ever cashed them.
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Re: OT: Spaghetti Sauce
frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: I think that sausage and cured meats are the ones to avoid in your situation, John. IIRC, they'll be loaded with salts and nitrites, which are real bad for you. Yes, indeed, though if you can find a local farmer or butcher who makes them in the traditional ways, they'll probably be both better tasting and far less loaded with nasty additives than what the big commercial vendors sell. I think a lovely vegan pasta sauce is the way to go! Homemade macaroni and cheese is dead easy, uses no meat, and can be very nice. With some ground meat but no cured meat, lasagna or mousaka. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Leica M9
Having worked with leicas for the better part of four decades, I guess the dream purchase but doesn't compute anymore. To me they are just cameras, expensive to be sure but just cameras. It's just like a Ferrari or other exotic car in essence. To some who cannot afford one they are a fantasy anda superlative. To those who can, or who race them, they are just expensive cars. On Wednesday, May 19, 2010, Steven Desjardins drd1...@gmail.com wrote: It should still bother him. A Leica should be a dream purchase. They charge top dollar and they are competing with some of the best pro cameras. The very idea that it just wouldn't work right is almost inconceivable. Maybe I'm just being naive here but why else would anyone buy a Leica if not for superb if maybe eclectic performance? In terms of actual usage I'll bet that the Canon and Nikon offerings in that range are better all around workhorse cameras. On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 3:42 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi gdigio...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 10:46 AM, Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote: On 5/18/2010 8:20 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: It's always sad to hear reports of such a mess, but I hear them about every manufacturer from time to time. Nikon, Canon, Panasonic, Sony, Pentax ... all of them. I'm just glad I've only rarely needed service. ;-) Godfrey, there seems to be a minor difference in Jeffery's case. ... Just a matter of degree. I expect better service when I pay premium prices for things like a Leica, and to get poor service from them is more notable than from high volume outfits like Nikon/Canon or even Pentax by comparison. It obviously still burns for Jeffery, and his attitude seems like mine with regard to Sigma equipment. Only difference is that I never spent much money on Sigma stuff ... I never got any that was satisfactory in the first place. -- Godfrey godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Steve Desjardins -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Godfrey godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Spaghetti Sauce
From: frank theriault On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 5:05 AM, Cotty cotty...@mac.com wrote: On 19/5/10, John Sessoms, discombobulated, unleashed: half pound of mild pork sausage If it has additives, it's processed! I think that sausage and cured meats are the ones to avoid in your situation, John. IIRC, they'll be loaded with salts and nitrites, which are real bad for you. I think a lovely vegan pasta sauce is the way to go! Yeah, I didn't add much of the sausage. For flavor, a little goes a long ways. You need some salt to live, just not too much. I'm striving for balance. And vegan is not in my future. I just like meat. I tend more towards fish poultry now-a-days, but I still eat red meats on occasion. The real problem with vegan is I'm going to have to shop more often to keep fresh veggies in stock. No adequate way to keep them otherwise. Plus I have to spend more time on food preparation. The new diet is shaping up to be two days veggies and some meat dish on the third day. That means at least twice a week out to the farmers market. Others have commented that I should have used a whole onion... I bought 3 lovely spring onions at the farmers market on Sunday. That half an onion was all I had left on Tuesday night. I made enough sauce last night I've got a dozen servings in the freezer now. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Leica M9
From: Steven Desjardins It should still bother him. A Leica should be a dream purchase. They charge top dollar and they are competing with some of the best pro cameras. The very idea that it just wouldn't work right is almost inconceivable. Maybe I'm just being naive here but why else would anyone buy a Leica if not for superb if maybe eclectic performance? I think there's something in the contract you sign when you get accepted into Dental School. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Leica M9
Steven Desjardins wrote: It should still bother him. A Leica should be a dream purchase. They charge top dollar and they are competing with some of the best pro cameras. The very idea that it just wouldn't work right is almost inconceivable. Maybe I'm just being naive here but why else would anyone buy a Leica if not for superb if maybe eclectic performance? You're quite right. For a mass-market, mass-production item like a Nikon it's pretty inevitable that some duds will get through QA and a few customers will not get satisfactory service. But for a boutique item like a Leica even a single instance of this kind of thing should be unthinkable. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO: Killdeer
Circled the local state managed wildlife area a couple days ago and shot this: http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=504 Comments immensely welcome. Jack K20, da55~...@300(what else), 1/2000, ISO 400, hand held -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Chicago
Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com Subject: Re: Chicago On 5/18/2010 11:36 PM, frank theriault wrote: On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 11:34 PM, Fernandofer.p...@gmail.com wrote: Hey, I know that trying to define art is an exercise in futility, but I still can have fun refuting the arguments of the ones that are trying to define it ;-) True. BTW, it's nearing midnight, so I'm not really going out to take photos (although moonlight over the lake might be nice!). I was just making a point is all... ;-) cheers, frank Art is what you'll pay for to hang on a wall... If it ain't framed, it ain't art. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Chicago
Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: Larry Colen l...@red4est.com Subject: Re: Chicago On May 18, 2010, at 7:16 PM, Doug Franklin wrote: On 2010-05-18 19:44, Fernando wrote: Regarding photography, these are my problems defining art exclusively by intent: IMO, one cannot reasonably define art solely in terms of the artist, the work, or the intent of the artist, any more than one can reasonably define art solely in terms of the viewer/recipient/?. Following the advice of Strunk White to get rid of any unnecessary words, that sentence should read: One cannot reasonably define art. How about two? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO Wild Geranium
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Re: Chicago
Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: Rob Studdert distudio.p...@gmail.com Subject: Re: Chicago On 19/05/2010, frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: BTW, it's nearing midnight, so I'm not really going out to take photos (although moonlight over the lake might be nice!). You need a K-x ;-) Or maybe some KY -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Killdeer
Nice detail. Good looking bird. Paul On May 19, 2010, at 10:59 AM, Jack Davis wrote: Circled the local state managed wildlife area a couple days ago and shot this: http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=504 Comments immensely welcome. Jack K20, da55~...@300(what else), 1/2000, ISO 400, hand held -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Killdeer
Jack, Very sharp photo. He is definitely posing for you. You get a good head shot and the full back as well. And the background is sharp as well. Very enjoyable... Regards, Bob S. On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 9:59 AM, Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com wrote: Circled the local state managed wildlife area a couple days ago and shot this: http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=504 Comments immensely welcome. Jack K20, da55~...@300(what else), 1/2000, ISO 400, hand held -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Killdeer
Field Guide worthy :-) Nice pose... great detail on bird wonder if you could use a noise reduction to blur the background more... I'm thinking that had you been shooting film that would have been taken care of . ann Jack Davis wrote: Circled the local state managed wildlife area a couple days ago and shot this: http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=504 Comments immensely welcome. Jack K20, da55~...@300(what else), 1/2000, ISO 400, hand held -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO MCA Pano
I guess technically that is a pano, but most have almost become cliched' as a broad, sweeping landscape. You have broken the mold here and produced a very nice image using the technique, but without the thought of a 'Pano' - good work! -- Best regards, Bruce Wednesday, May 19, 2010, 4:38:41 AM, you wrote: RS Hi Team, RS Last pano from the weekend, a bit left field this time. The image was RS captured hand held using K-x and smc PENTAX-A 50mm F1.2 f4 1/160, ISO RS 200 and assembled using Autopano rendered in a rectilinear projection. RS The source files consisted of 2 landscape 2MP in-camera JPG files. The RS output file contrast was enhanced using the curves tool then the image RS saturation was reduced. RS http://home.swiftdsl.com.au/~aglcnews/temp/Pano-IMGX01621sm.jpg RS Roxy Paine - Neuron RS Hope you enjoy. RS Cheers, RS -- RS Rob Studdert (Digital Image Studio) RS Tel: +61-418-166-870 UTC +10 Hours RS Gmail, eBay, Skype, Twitter, Facebook, Picasa: distudio -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Chicago
Ken Waller wrote: If it ain't framed, it ain't art. That's gonna bum out a lot of sculptors. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Killdeer
I had to chuckle just a bit when I first viewed this one because of the remarkable clear bright eye staring at me - I thought Deer in the headlights ... and what is the name of the bird? Killdeer. How ironic. Great shot overall - minor nit - background feels just a bit busy - not much you can do about it. -- Best regards, Bruce Wednesday, May 19, 2010, 7:59:09 AM, you wrote: JD Circled the local state managed wildlife area a couple days ago and shot this: JD http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=504 JD Comments immensely welcome. JD Jack JD K20, da55~...@300(what else), 1/2000, ISO 400, hand held JD -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO Wild Geranium
Ken, There is a very pleasant softness to the image that makes me feel very comfortable. Also the composition has wonderful balance to it. The background has a very nice tone and creamy feel to it. Great shot all around! -- Best regards, Bruce Wednesday, May 19, 2010, 8:21:34 AM, you wrote: PNS http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=11027251size=lg -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO Wild Geranium
Really well composed, Paul! Texture very pleasing. Jack --- On Wed, 5/19/10, P N Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: From: P N Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net Subject: PESO Wild Geranium To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Date: Wednesday, May 19, 2010, 8:21 AM http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=11027251size=lg -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO Wild Geranium
Duh! Ken's post was right next to this one, so I was thinking Ken. Sorry about that. PAUL - what I said. -- Best regards, Bruce Wednesday, May 19, 2010, 9:27:30 AM, you wrote: BD Ken, BD There is a very pleasant softness to the image that makes me feel BD very comfortable. Also the composition has wonderful balance to it. BD The background has a very nice tone and creamy feel to it. BD Great shot all around! BD -- BD Best regards, BD Bruce BD Wednesday, May 19, 2010, 8:21:34 AM, you wrote: PNS http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=11027251size=lg -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Killdeer
Appreciated it, Paul. Jack --- On Wed, 5/19/10, P N Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: From: P N Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net Subject: Re: PESO: Killdeer To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Date: Wednesday, May 19, 2010, 8:22 AM Nice detail. Good looking bird. Paul On May 19, 2010, at 10:59 AM, Jack Davis wrote: Circled the local state managed wildlife area a couple days ago and shot this: http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=504 Comments immensely welcome. Jack K20, da55~...@300(what else), 1/2000, ISO 400, hand held --PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. --PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Killdeer
Pleasing to read, Bob. Thanks! Jack --- On Wed, 5/19/10, Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com wrote: From: Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com Subject: Re: PESO: Killdeer To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Date: Wednesday, May 19, 2010, 8:41 AM Jack, Very sharp photo. He is definitely posing for you. You get a good head shot and the full back as well. And the background is sharp as well. Very enjoyable... Regards, Bob S. On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 9:59 AM, Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com wrote: Circled the local state managed wildlife area a couple days ago and shot this: http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=504 Comments immensely welcome. Jack K20, da55~...@300(what else), 1/2000, ISO 400, hand held -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO Wild Geranium
Nice one... and now I know what that is :-) ann P N Stenquist wrote: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=11027251size=lg -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Leica M9
On 5/19/2010 8:40 AM, Larry Colen wrote: My bigma is quite satisfactory. My only complaint with it is bokeh. My 20/1.8 is a mixed bag. Optically it is just fine. It just fails in the tactile department, though it seems to be better since I sent it back, it just feels like a modern cheap lens. Then again, in today's market people who manually focus are definitely in the minority. I also wish that the focus were a little slower between 2m and infinity. There's not much room for error photographing someone 3m away. Larry, I am thinking that you were slightly confused. I did not write anything regarding my dislike of Sigma. It was Godfrey who did. Nonetheless, I am thinking that 20 mm lens ought to have very short transition between 2m and infinity. E.g. my FA 20/2.8 has just a few degrees of rotation between 2m and infinity mark. In fact, 2m is the last focus mark before infinity, which I believe says something. Like I said before, things such as Katz Eye f.s. help immensely if one has to deal with manual focus. Personally I had owned only two Sigma lenses and the were satisfactory. They were not stellar but they did the job they were supposed to do and did it quite fine. I did not own any EX series lenses, though. Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO in Oak Park
While I was wandering about on my own in Oak Park I ran across someone's toy: http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/4620544121/in/set-72157623967968011/ The driver was a rather attractive brunette, unfortunately none of the shots with her turned out particularly well. The fellow that I presume was her date got into the GTS seen in the background of one of the shots, and they drove off together. I was amused to find myself photographing Pascal just about 24 hours later: http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/4607622897/in/set-72157623938757341/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Leica M9
On 5/19/2010 2:33 PM, Steven Desjardins wrote: It should still bother him. A Leica should be a dream purchase. They charge top dollar and they are competing with some of the best pro cameras. The very idea that it just wouldn't work right is almost inconceivable. Maybe I'm just being naive here but why else would anyone buy a Leica if not for superb if maybe eclectic performance? In terms of actual usage I'll bet that the Canon and Nikon offerings in that range are better all around workhorse cameras. Steve, I am thinking that the Leica camera as a single item, say M8, is not a dream purchase. It is rather a key to big Pandora box of the glass that one will have to mount on their dream purchase. It is to say that as a system, Leica is mighty expensive and it is unlikely that someone would impulse buy their dream camera just because. Although entirely possible. Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Killdeer II
Thanks much, Ann. Redo with upper background area lightened and softened. Do you approve? ;) Jack http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=505 --- On Wed, 5/19/10, Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com wrote: From: Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com Subject: Re: PESO: Killdeer To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Date: Wednesday, May 19, 2010, 9:05 AM Field Guide worthy :-) Nice pose... great detail on bird wonder if you could use a noise reduction to blur the background more... I'm thinking that had you been shooting film that would have been taken care of . ann Jack Davis wrote: Circled the local state managed wildlife area a couple days ago and shot this: http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=504 Comments immensely welcome. Jack K20, da55~...@300(what else), 1/2000, ISO 400, hand held -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Leica M9
On 5/19/2010 9:46 AM, Boris Liberman wrote: On 5/19/2010 8:40 AM, Larry Colen wrote: My bigma is quite satisfactory. My only complaint with it is bokeh. My 20/1.8 is a mixed bag. Optically it is just fine. It just fails in the tactile department, though it seems to be better since I sent it back, it just feels like a modern cheap lens. Then again, in today's market people who manually focus are definitely in the minority. I also wish that the focus were a little slower between 2m and infinity. There's not much room for error photographing someone 3m away. Larry, I am thinking that you were slightly confused. I did not write anything regarding my dislike of Sigma. It was Godfrey who did. I probably just trimmed the wrong bits of the email. It's a good thing that I'm not a mohel. Nonetheless, I am thinking that 20 mm lens ought to have very short transition between 2m and infinity. E.g. my FA 20/2.8 has just a few degrees of rotation between 2m and infinity mark. In fact, 2m is the last focus mark before infinity, which I believe says something. This is true. Since the lens goes from, IIRC, a 1:2 macro to infinity without any sort of a focus stop, the focus is better on speed than it is on accuracy. If they slowed it down a bit it would be a lot easier to manually focus. Even if they just slowed down the manual focus and left the high gear ratio of the auto focus screw. Like I said before, things such as Katz Eye f.s. help immensely if one has to deal with manual focus. I've been using them for two years. Personally I had owned only two Sigma lenses and the were satisfactory. They were not stellar but they did the job they were supposed to do and did it quite fine. I did not own any EX series lenses, though. That's a very good description of them. They do a decent job at what they're intended, and have good performance for the money. I'd love to have their 30/1.4 in my kit for low light indoor work. Sigma seems to do a good job of spec'ing lenses to my needs, at a price that I can consider affording. Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Spaghetti Sauce
On 19/5/10, frank theriault, discombobulated, unleashed: I think a lovely vegan pasta sauce is the way to go! What with Boris a Vulcan and you a Vegan, any other aliens on the list?? -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche -- http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Spaghetti Sauce
Cotty wrote: On 19/5/10, frank theriault, discombobulated, unleashed: I think a lovely vegan pasta sauce is the way to go! What with Boris a Vulcan and you a Vegan, any other aliens on the list?? I'm a Pastafarian. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Spaghetti Sauce
Cotty wrote: On 19/5/10, frank theriault, discombobulated, unleashed: I think a lovely vegan pasta sauce is the way to go! What with Boris a Vulcan and you a Vegan, any other aliens on the list?? Cotty's a well-known Klingon, Tanya is a Bo(ob)rg and Bill is Canadian. If I had to spot a lunatic... well, never mind. Dario -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Spaghetti Sauce
On 2010-05-19 08:38 , John Sessoms wrote: The real problem with vegan is I'm going to have to shop more often to keep fresh veggies in stock. No adequate way to keep them otherwise. [...] That means at least twice a week out to the farmers market. i'd love to live around the corner from a good grocer so as to get everything fresh the day i use it, but that's not realistic for most of us, so i think it's worth noting that with care, you can keep many vegetables a week or two; we have to do that a lot with our garden output and our CSA shares; we basically bag them loosely and put them in the crisper, then inspect and remove wilted and faded parts before they rot; the exception is tomatoes -- home grown tomatoes must be eaten within a few days if ripe because the flavor suffers when you refrigerate them; cooking tomatoes like romas can last over week in the fridge, though -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Spaghetti Sauce
On 5/19/2010 1:07 PM, Mark Roberts wrote:
Cotty wrote:
On 19/5/10, frank theriault, discombobulated, unleashed:
I think a lovely vegan pasta sauce is the way to go!
What with Boris a Vulcan and you a Vegan, any other aliens on the list??
I'm a Pastafarian.
Doesn't that make you an illegal alien?
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Re: Chicago
On 5/19/2010 12:24 PM, Mark Roberts wrote:
Ken Waller wrote:
If it ain't framed, it ain't art.
That's gonna bum out a lot of sculptors.
I suppose you could always put a frame around a sculpture. Make a
statement...
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Re: software misfeature of the K-x
DSLR's use the Live View feed to produce the movies. They are not actually pulling a full-resolution feed from the sensor and the shutter is functioning as if doing a long exposure, there is also an increased noise penalty from doing this (partially from heat, partially from not resetting the sensor between frames which requires the shutter to close). Additionally the only exposure controls are aperture and ISO in this mode, there is nothing analogous to shutter speed, unlike with film (where fps controlled the defacto shutetr speed, video is shot with fixed framerates) Running the sensor in full-resolution mode works differently, the only way to control shutter speed is with the mechanical shutter which is linked to the mirror at a minimum. So you have to fire the shutter with each exposure when taking stills. -Adam On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 5:00 PM, Joseph McAllister pentax...@mac.com wrote: Makes it a miracle that the Pentax and other DSLRs can take 24 - 30 fps movies then, doesn't it? Yet how quietly the shutter operates at that speed. On May 12, 2010, at 10:20 , David Parsons wrote: Mirror, shutter, and aperture control are not mechanically linked in modern dSLRs. They are separately actuated using servos. They are most likely setup that way because the timing chain is already setup and it's much easier to tell the camera to actuate 3 times, than to reprogram the timing chain to lift the mirror, close the aperture, and open-close the shutter x times. On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 12:13 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi gdigio...@gmail.com wrote: Of course it needs to operate the shutter ... all electronic shutters as yet do not have the control and resolution possible with a mechanical shutter. And like with most SLRs, the shutter regulation, aperture control and mirror are a linked mechanical operation so there's no good way to cycle the shutter without also cycling the others. On Olympus bodies, the auto-bracket feature and the capture three on one shutter press are implemented separately: you have to turn on auto-bracket AND drive mode to achieve this automation. I find this very useful in some situations (say when using a flash unit to allow time for recycling). If a camera has independently, electronically controlled shutter, mirror and aperture operation, then an option to do auto-bracketing on one press cycling only the shutter as quickly as possible would be a nice feature for use when appropriate. I don't believe it's possible with the design of today's Pentax (or any other) SLR bodies. On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 8:10 AM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: On Monday night I was photographing a dance and was having a really rough time with exposure. I was shooting in manual mode, I'd take a picture, then the next time I shot, the exposure was way off. Or it would change. It took me a while to realize that I had left the shutter in bracket. Joseph McAllister pentax...@mac.com http://gallery.me.com/jomac http://web.me.com/jomac/show.me/Blog/Blog.html -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- M. Adam Maas http://www.mawz.ca Explorations of the City Around Us. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Leica M9
All that glass is pretty much worthless if the body doesn't work. On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 12:48 PM, Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote: On 5/19/2010 2:33 PM, Steven Desjardins wrote: It should still bother him. A Leica should be a dream purchase. They charge top dollar and they are competing with some of the best pro cameras. The very idea that it just wouldn't work right is almost inconceivable. Maybe I'm just being naive here but why else would anyone buy a Leica if not for superb if maybe eclectic performance? In terms of actual usage I'll bet that the Canon and Nikon offerings in that range are better all around workhorse cameras. Steve, I am thinking that the Leica camera as a single item, say M8, is not a dream purchase. It is rather a key to big Pandora box of the glass that one will have to mount on their dream purchase. It is to say that as a system, Leica is mighty expensive and it is unlikely that someone would impulse buy their dream camera just because. Although entirely possible. Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Steve Desjardins -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Spaghetti Sauce
Mark Roberts wrote: Cotty wrote: On 19/5/10, frank theriault, discombobulated, unleashed: I think a lovely vegan pasta sauce is the way to go! What with Boris a Vulcan and you a Vegan, any other aliens on the list?? I'm a Pastafarian. Hah, hah... Once I found Michaelangelo’s vegetable lasagna, I was home free! Delicious taste, and NO meat whatsoever. I have that at least once a week for a late breakfast. Might give it a try! keith -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Leica M9
2010/5/19 Christian Skofteland pterali...@aim.com: I bought my G11 a few weeks ago at BestBuy in Virginia. While in New York on business I accidentally spilled a collegues cocktail all over it. Needless to say it stopped working. I went back to BestBuy on my return, after gathering the original receipt and packaging, and told the return clerk that the camera stopped working after a week. He appologized and replaced the camera without asking any further questions. Can't believe you did that. Hate to step on your or anyone's toes but instead of taking responsibility you ripped them off and knew so. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Killdeer II
Jack Davis wrote: Thanks much, Ann. Redo with upper background area lightened and softened. Do you approve? ;) Jack http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=505 I'll have to confess I don't see much difference... I tried to do a little photoshop and I'm not skilled enough to really turn the background into just the right bokeh... So you'll just ahve to go find that little guy again and tell him to stand somewhere else :-) ann --- On Wed, 5/19/10, Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com wrote: From: Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com Subject: Re: PESO: Killdeer To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Date: Wednesday, May 19, 2010, 9:05 AM Field Guide worthy :-) Nice pose... great detail on bird wonder if you could use a noise reduction to blur the background more... I'm thinking that had you been shooting film that would have been taken care of . ann Jack Davis wrote: Circled the local state managed wildlife area a couple days ago and shot this: http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=504 Comments immensely welcome. Jack K20, da55~...@300(what else), 1/2000, ISO 400, hand held -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
OT: Why bother with a Leica M8 or M9...
...when you can do this? http://www.bea.hi-ho.ne.jp/bokuto/kosaku/digibarna2/ Don't know what the original language was and why the guns are there at the end, but the whole thing is bizarre, so why not? Enjoy, Chris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO - What's Jostein doing?
(He's the one with his back to the camera) Another one taken by Karin on her Optio S50. http://www.mitch.myzen.co.uk/PDML/IMGP1260.jpg Chris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Why bother with a Leica M8 or M9...
2010/5/19 Chris Mitchell chris.mitch...@which.net: ...when you can do this? http://www.bea.hi-ho.ne.jp/bokuto/kosaku/digibarna2/ Don't know what the original language was and why the guns are there at the end, but the whole thing is bizarre, so why not? Original language was Japanese going by the URL, the guns are a German MP 44 submachine assault rifle and Luger RP 08 Parabellum officer's sidearm to match the camera which has a Property of the Germain Air Force engraving as well as the eagle and swastika crest of the 3rd Reich. Comes across a bit like a militaria collector or something of the sort; someone who might applaud Adolf Hitler Campbell's dad. Not my cup of tea really but I like the conversion idea especially when applied to what people with rather gross political ideas would consider (now disgraced and no longer) a collectors' item... hehehe Cheers Ecke -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - What's Jostein doing?
I'm just glad he's facing away from us... :-D -p On 5/19/2010 1:35 PM, Chris Mitchell wrote: (He's the one with his back to the camera) Another one taken by Karin on her Optio S50. http://www.mitch.myzen.co.uk/PDML/IMGP1260.jpg Chris No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.819 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2883 - Release Date: 05/19/10 01:26:00 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Test (new email address)
Send mail. Receive mail. Everything else is highly immoral. 2010/5/19 David Mann d...@multisport.net.nz: I've migrated to a new server and I'm still thinking about what to do with my various email addresses. Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Solid State Hard Drives
On 2010-05-14 20:53 , William Robb wrote: I'm wondering what the consensus on these new beasties is? I am planning on an upgrade to Win7 and adding some ram, and am wondering if I should get one of these as a C drive as well. I am thinking of one of the 40 or so gb ones, since I don't use my C drive for anything other than OS and programs. just noticed this buried in the Chicago thread (i use a true threaded mail reader, so if you use reply to post something on a new topic, it will still get threaded with whatever you reply to) i have done some study in this area, so here are some points: * first maximize the usable RAM in your computer; it's a much cheaper way to improve performance * if it's reliability you're after, SSDs do not mean you don't have to do backups * be sure you know what aspects of your hard drive use most affect your computer's performance -- the system and applications may or may not be the most important, so using the drive how you propose may be disappointing * SSD drives can get slower with age because of how they re-use cells, but the newer internal controllers (currently only on higher-end models) do a good job of working around that * in a desktop - you can beat some SSDs with a good RAID, perhaps even at lower cost - but if speed is paramount, then a RAID of SSDs could be even faster (though you might risk saturating a SATA II interface) * on a laptop - almost any recent SSD will be faster than a spinning disk - most will extend battery life but there are big differences in power consumption between models - another SSD advantage in a laptop is that it is almost immune to vibration shock - most laptops have room for only one drive, and big SSD drives (e.g. for lots of photos) can be quite expensive here's a review of model i've had my eyes on: http://thessdreview.blogspot.com/2010/05/ssd-review-owc-mercury-extreme-pro-re.html -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - After the Storm - Part III
2010/5/19 frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com: Hmmm... No guarantees. I sized it before I rendered it. I'll re-do it to 1440x1050, but it will never be the same as what you see here. ;-) Glad you liked it. Thanks to everyone who commented. Liked it a lot, yes. Please minimize your effort, I'll take any aspect ratio in the ballpark and if I don't have to blow it up too much, a smaller size is also fine. TIA Ecke -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - What's Jostein doing?
Is that a camera in his hand or was he just happy to see you? 2010/5/19 Chris Mitchell chris.mitch...@which.net: (He's the one with his back to the camera) Another one taken by Karin on her Optio S50. http://www.mitch.myzen.co.uk/PDML/IMGP1260.jpg Chris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Chicago
Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: Mark Roberts m...@robertstech.com Subject: Re: Chicago Ken Waller wrote: If it ain't framed, it ain't art. That's gonna bum out a lot of sculptors. Not my fault they picked the wrong medium -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Why bother with a Leica M8 or M9...
On 5/19/2010 2:42 PM, eckinator wrote:
2010/5/19 Chris Mitchellchris.mitch...@which.net:
...when you can do this?
http://www.bea.hi-ho.ne.jp/bokuto/kosaku/digibarna2/
Don't know what the original language was and why the guns are there at the
end, but the whole thing is bizarre, so why not?
Original language was Japanese going by the URL, the guns are a German
MP 44 submachine assault rifle and Luger RP 08 Parabellum officer's
sidearm to match the camera which has a Property of the Germain Air
Force engraving as well as the eagle and swastika crest of the 3rd
Reich. Comes across a bit like a militaria collector or something of
the sort; someone who might applaud Adolf Hitler Campbell's dad. Not
my cup of tea really but I like the conversion idea especially when
applied to what people with rather gross political ideas would
consider (now disgraced and no longer) a collectors' item... hehehe
Cheers
Ecke
In the US we often consider old Nazi memoribilia war trophies, we're not
ashamed of them, after all we beat them. It's better than taking scalps
as some of my ancestors did.
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Re: PESO - Yeller Feller
As already noted its an American Goldfinch, also called a Wild Canary - Carduelis tristis. The one you captured is a male. this site may be of help to you http://www.allaboutbirds.org/NetCommunity/Page.aspx?pid=1189 Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com Subject: PESO - Yeller Feller This isn't really a PESO, but I didn't want to screw up those that filter PESOs into a separate file by calling it a non-PESO or something like that. This is not being presented for it's artistic or technical merit, I just want to know what type of bird this is. It's small (maybe three inches excluding tail?) and very quick (as most small birds tend to be). There are many of them at the waterfront park near my place, but capturing one (with camera, that is) has so far proved elusive: http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.com/2010/05/yeller-feller.html Can anyone ID this little guy? Hopefully a better photo will follow one day. Thanks! cheers, frank -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO Ceiling
The ceiling of an old building: http://www.repiuk.nl/index.php/blog-mainmenu-97/132-ceiling K20D, DA10-17 Toine -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Squeaking silver Pantomim - iBot 001
http://roman.blakout.net/?blog=20100519231343 ^^^ comments appreciated -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Spaghetti Sauce
On 2010-05-19 13:07, Mark Roberts wrote: I'm a Pastafarian. FSM FTW! -- Thanks, DougF (KG4LMZ) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - What's Jostein doing?
On 19/5/10, Chris Mitchell, discombobulated, unleashed: Another one taken by Karin on her Optio S50. http://www.mitch.myzen.co.uk/PDML/IMGP1260.jpg Calculating one side of a triangle. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche -- http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Squeaking silver Pantomim - iBot 001
2010/5/19 Roman Melihhov ro...@blakout.net: http://roman.blakout.net/?blog=20100519231343 ^^^ comments appreciated Nice shot. There must be a school of these somewhere. Or a nest. They're all over. Thanks for sharing Ecke -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Solid State Hard Drives
On 2010-05-19 14:57, steve harley wrote: i have done some study [on SSDs] If you really want the ultimate in balls-to-the-wall performance, look into the SSDs that have a PCI Express x16 interface rather than a SATA interface. You can't really RAID them, beyond two drives, because you run out of PCI Express slots on most motherboards. Plus, they're far more expensive than SATA SSDs, like three times or so as expensive. But they will just about melt your computer with throughput (IOPS). :-) -- Thanks, DougF (KG4LMZ) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Chicago
On 2010-05-19 4:17, Bob W wrote: That would exclude a great deal of work, such as the Lascaux cave paintings and Shaker furniture, that is now generally considered to be art, for whatever reason, but which could not possibly have been produced with such a collaboration in mind. I'm not communicating clearly, apparently. No collaboration needs to be in mind or intended. A collaboration occurs simply because the creator and the viewer perceived the same work (to avoid excluding music), though possibly in vastly different ways. -- Thanks, DougF (KG4LMZ) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
