[no subject]

[khagaroth]

That doesn't really matter. This bug was there long before the 64bit version
even existed. This bug is probably already older than some of the users.

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[khagaroth]

I don't have much hope for a fix, after all, this bug is there since cca
2016/2017.

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Re: ESC meeting agenda: 2021-03-25 16:00 Berlin time - renaming - a serious tongue-in-cheek proposal

[khagaroth]

Not reactionaries or a*holes. Just realists. You maybe don't know about the
situation in some other fields that were infected by woke agenda first, but
some people do and they react accordingly. Look at the toxic cancel culture
in Twitter and in the entertainment industry (search for "Gina Carano
aftermath" or "Bill Burr minority sex servant"), the disastrous state of
american comics (search for snowflake and safespace), the sad state of
iconic franchises as Star Trek (STD, Picard), Doctor Who (sad face), Star
Wars etc. etc., all in the name of woke.

On Fri, Mar 26, 2021 at 4:17 PM Tor Lillqvist  wrote:

> > 1984 here we come ..
>
> Oh for fuck’s sake. It’s sad to see how many reactionaries there are in
> this so-called community.
>
> —tml
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Re: ESC meeting agenda: 2021-03-25 16:00 Berlin time - renaming - a serious tongue-in-cheek proposal

[khagaroth]

What else would you call that? Did you look at the examples I listed. Those
people appear to act in the best interest of the minorities, but if they
get called out at their bull by said minorities, they dis them (re Bill
Burrs [black] wife who was called "minority sex servant" by one such a*hole
after shooting them down for calling her husband racist).

On Fri, Mar 26, 2021 at 4:45 PM Tor Lillqvist  wrote:

> > woke agenda
>
> You really want to remove any doubts, do you?
>
> --tml
>
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Re: ESC meeting agenda: 2021-03-25 16:00 Berlin time - renaming - a serious tongue-in-cheek proposal

[khagaroth]

On Thu, Mar 25, 2021 at 8:13 PM Eike Rathke  wrote:

> we would have to decide on female 'gata' or male 'gato'
>

Don't you dare to assume a gender.  To be gender neutral, how about using
"WOKE".
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Re: ANN: renaming of master branch to "main" for core repository and submodules (dictionaries, help, translations)

[khagaroth]

Get woke go broke...

No need to push some misguided agenda, and even less need to appeal to some
collective guilt, after all slavery wasn't an universal practice.

The only way to handle SJWs is to ignore them, after all if you give them
an inch they'll take a mile. Be glad the situation is still somewhat
bearable in the programming community, you really wouldn't want for it to
get as bad as it is in the entertainment industry, the less you let
them creep in, the better.
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Re: ESC meeting minutes: 2020-09-03

[khagaroth]

On Thu, Sep 3, 2020 at 11:06 PM Jan-Marek Glogowski 
wrote:

> But coming back to the original bug / suggestion to retire the PNGs:
> *the quality of the SVG renderings of the icons at 100% isn't good*. They
> look
> "washed out" in comparison with the unscaled, alternative PNG icons
>

 ^^
That's an understatement. SVG icons are currently absolutely atrocious. The
first problem is that LO uses odd icon resolution (25x25), so the lines are
not pixel aligned on export and are blurred/aliased. The second problem is
that with Opengl/Skia enabled, the GPU driver applies some
antialiasing/smoothing on top of that and it ends up looking absolutely
hideous, at least on latest AMD / Intel drivers. No such problems with the
PNG icons or with GDI rendering.
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Re: Unwanted and sudden converting to strange characters [74049]

[khagaroth]

Diff tool is unrelated. No need for any external tools or plugins, it's PsPad
itself that does the damage. I once got this on a plain TXT file without any
syntax highlighting and without using any functions like search/replace, just
plain manual text editing and then saving. Though it was a while ago, cca 2
years, no such issues with recent versions on such simple files, but it still
occasionally happens on more complex files/with more complex editing.

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Re: Unwanted and sudden converting to strange characters [73759]

[khagaroth]

Ok, scratch two years, just found one (not the oldest for sure)
thread (viz https://forum.pspad.com/read.php?4,65340 ) on this bug, and it's
from 2015, time really flies.

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Re: Unwanted and sudden converting to strange characters [73755]

[khagaroth]

Re: [libreoffice-projects] Re: [libreoffice-website] Re: FYI: LibreOffice Extensions Templates Website Repository Migrated To Python 3 / Plone 5.2.x

[khagaroth]

On Tue, May 26, 2020 at 1:53 AM Guilhem Moulin 
wrote:

> Hi Andreas,
>
> rdm#1519 for
> dm#2955#note-1
>

Proper links?

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Re: [libreoffice-projects] Re: [libreoffice-website] Re: FYI: LibreOffice Extensions Templates Website Repository Migrated To Python 3 / Plone 5.2.x

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On Tue, May 26, 2020 at 1:53 AM Guilhem Moulin 
wrote:

> Hi Andreas,
>
> rdm#1519 for
> dm#2955#note-1
>

Proper links?

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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Weblate, where we stand currently

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On Tue, Nov 19, 2019 at 8:15 PM sophi  wrote:

> Thanks for your feedback, did you tested it? I see: 'Added ZIP download
> for more translation files' in the release notes, but does it allow to
> add all files of project to a zip?
>
Yes it downloads a ZIP of the whole project / component / language
depending where in the project hierarchy you use the download option.

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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Weblate, where we stand currently

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On Tue, Nov 19, 2019 at 5:14 PM sophi  wrote:

> - The main problem seems that we can't download all files in one step,
> here also Christian is looking at a way to download via Gerrit and avoid
> using command line and API.
>
Use Weblate 3.9.

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Re: New and improved "about:config" for Firefox Desktop

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On Friday, January 25, 2019 at 11:37:14 PM UTC+1, Paolo Amadini wrote:
> On 1/25/2019 10:39 AM, Axel Hecht wrote:
> > filter [...] by modified
> 
> This is bug 1502867, it is something we've considered but I'm a bit
> conflicted as it's only really used on 0.4% of page views and we have a
> better section dedicated to that use case in "about:support".
Does it take into account that the sorting is preserved between about:config 
calls?
Also, the list in about:support isn't complete (that's why it's called 
IMPORTANT modified preferences and not simply modified preferences) and it's 
not editable so I really wouldn't call it even remotely better.
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Re: PSPad unicode 5.0.1 (289) Cesky [70921]

[khagaroth]

64bit verze má stále nepoužitelné porovnání souborů. Zobrazuje kompletně
nesmyslné rozdíly i u identických souborů a naopak nezobrazuje některé
skutečné rozdíly.

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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Minutes from the UX/design meeting 2018-Nov-28

[khagaroth]

On Mon, Dec 3, 2018 at 10:32 AM Heiko Tietze  wrote:

> That's why I accepted the request (which means no further input from UX
> needed).
>

As I pointed out (actually that was the main point of the previous email,
not OLE as default), the behavior described in the bug isn't Impress
specific, but also applies to Calc. So, could UX take a look at that as
well and extend the scope of the bug which is now only Impress specific.
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Re: Minutes from the UX/design meeting 2018-Nov-28

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On Mon, Dec 3, 2018 at 10:32 AM Heiko Tietze  wrote:

> That's why I accepted the request (which means no further input from UX
> needed).
>

As I pointed out (actually that was the main point of the previous email,
not OLE as default), the behavior described in the bug isn't Impress
specific, but also applies to Calc. So, could UX take a look at that as
well and extend the scope of the bug which is now only Impress specific.
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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Minutes from the UX/design meeting 2018-Nov-28

[khagaroth]

On Wed, Nov 28, 2018 at 8:29 PM Heiko Tietze  wrote:

>  * Pasting from Writer to Impress Should be "Text only" by default
>+ https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=121574
>+ agree (Heiko)
>+ keep the current behaviour; users should learn to paste special (Cor)
>+ better go with rich text format by default
>=> following Regina treating this as a bug
>

The same could be  said about pasting from Writer to Calc. I can't remember
a single instance where I wanted to insert the stupid "OLE" object (and it
being the default is quite infuriating to put it mildly) and inserting a
formatted text is also a rare need since I usually need a different
formatting anyway.
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Re: Minutes from the UX/design meeting 2018-Nov-28

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On Wed, Nov 28, 2018 at 8:29 PM Heiko Tietze  wrote:

>  * Pasting from Writer to Impress Should be "Text only" by default
>+ https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=121574
>+ agree (Heiko)
>+ keep the current behaviour; users should learn to paste special (Cor)
>+ better go with rich text format by default
>=> following Regina treating this as a bug
>

The same could be  said about pasting from Writer to Calc. I can't remember
a single instance where I wanted to insert the stupid "OLE" object (and it
being the default is quite infuriating to put it mildly) and inserting a
formatted text is also a rare need since I usually need a different
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Re: Text-Diff (intern) [70139]

[khagaroth]

The diff in 64bit version is completely broken (aside from producing wrong
results it also crashes quite happily). It was already reported several times in
the developer builds threads btw, since it was like that from the very start,
but somehow it got completely ignored.

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Re: Open file with mouse click in explorer not possible [69883]

[khagaroth]

Can confirm. With Maximized=0 under [FilePos] everything works.

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Re: Open file with mouse click in explorer not possible [69870]

[khagaroth]

The registry value is there. Changes after each program restart.

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Re: Open file with mouse click in explorer not possible [69863]

[khagaroth]

I'm getting message sent dialogs with the full file path, but no message
received dialogs at all.

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Re: Open file with mouse click in explorer not possible [69854]

[khagaroth]

pspad:

I am sorry, but I am not able to símulate 
it.
Do you use
multiinstance? That works. But with single instance (ie opening everything in
one window) it doesn't. For example if I use F4 in Total Commander repeatedly,
it will open only the first file and then do absolutely nothing on subsequet
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Re: Open file with mouse click in explorer not possible [69850]

[khagaroth]

pspad:

Hello Andreas. It works for 
me.
A little correction for
Andreas's report. It works for the first file. Once PSPad is open, it's
impossible to open any more files from the command line or by opening files in
explorer. Also reported by another user in the Czech thread.

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Re: PSPad unicode 5.0.0 (261) Cesky [69844]

[khagaroth]

Nefunguje porovnání souborů v 64-bitové verzi. Označuje naprosto nesmyslné
rozdíly. A navíc padá. Padání se dá nejlépe zreprodukovat pokud se
dvakrát po sobě pustí porovnání s obsahem na disku.
32-bitová verze je v pořádku. No, ne úplně. Porovnání s obsahem na disku
ukazuje rozdíl na konci souboru, pokud má soubor na konci prázdný řádek.

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Re: PSPad unicode 5.0.0 (251) English [69777]

[khagaroth]

Freeman:

pspad:

If file doesn't contains BOL or any char with value
above 127, the content of file is same with ANSI and UTF-8. In this case there
is no possibility how to detect content of the 
file.
In this case, is it
better to prefer UTF-8 over ANSI and force file as 
UTF-8...?
^^This. Or
rather use the default encoding set in the settings dialog whenever possible.

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Re: CSV Highighligting Syntax [69762]

[khagaroth]

I don't think a CSV highlighter is possible with user highlighters. There are no
keywords, just values separated by comma (or some other char, like tab or pipe),
so it would require something like a "column" highlighter.

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Re: Re-visiting the DOM tree depth limit in layout

[khagaroth]

On Monday, September 11, 2017 at 1:41:43 PM UTC+2, Henri Sivonen wrote:
> Can we ask Windows to give us more stack space?
> -- 
Don't know if it's possible to set it dynamically at runtime, but Visual Studio 
supports setting it at compile time (in linker options).

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Re: minutes of ESC call ...

[khagaroth]

On Thu, Aug 31, 2017 at 4:49 PM, Michael Meeks 
wrote:

>+ calc/PDF – wrt. line-breaking: most concern
>   + Khaled ? driven away by annoying reporter ?
>   *+ calc issue appears to affect only him → ignore it?
> (Xisco)*
>  + declared strategy to annoy people to fix his bugs
> (Thorsten)
> + should we mute / give him a stern talk ?
>

Care to elaborate how it only affects him? I have hundreds of existing calc
documents with multiline text that are now broken (ie they
display/print/export badly) and I'm definitely not going to go trough all
of them to fix it manually. And no, they don't use some exotic fonts, 99%
of them are using Arial or Times.
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Re: Minutes of ESC call 2017-08-17

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So what's the plan for handling the line spacing changes outfall? After
this change LO is currently unusable as it completely breaks existing
documents and the bugs don't see much activity.

On Mon, Aug 21, 2017 at 8:05 PM, Xisco Fauli 
wrote:

> Hello,
> > + build a write-up of the differences cross-platform (Xisco)
> >   [ almost done, will send to the ML ]
> >
> Basically the line spacing differences across platforms has been reduced
> after this commit[1] ( visual example of an issue fixed by the mentioned
> commit: Windows [2] and Linux [3] ) although there are still some bugs
> showing differences between Linux and Windows [4][5]
> Besides, it seems some documents look different before and after the
> commit now.
> These are the problems I could find in Bugzilla related to the commit:
>
> 1. Some fonts with bad metrics ( [6],[7] ) were displayed better before,
> however the problem needs to be fixed in the fonts, not in LibreOffice,
> thus, NOTOURBUG.
> Note: Khaled also fixed it for OpenSymbol fonts [9].
>
> 2. UI: Some dialogs labels are slightly cropped and vertically cramped
> [9]. Differences look bigger on Linux/Mac than on Windows. This bug [10]
> seems similar.
>
> 3. Web view: Line spacing is smaller than before [11]. This really looks
> like a bug to me.
>
> 4. Calc/PDF: line spacing looks smaller when using line breaks [12].
>
> As a solution, this bug [13] has been suggested.
>
> Regards
>
> [1]
> https://cgit.freedesktop.org/libreoffice/core/commit/?id=
> 34d7602954d4483b3bc9db700e7df2c15348947a
> [2] https://bug-attachments.documentfoundation.org/
> attachment.cgi?id=128520
> [3] https://bug-attachments.documentfoundation.org/
> attachment.cgi?id=128521
> [4] https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=92502
> [5] https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=104932
> [6] https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=107605
> [7] https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=107888
> [8] https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=106994#c7
> [9] https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=107249
> [10] https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=105860
> [11] https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=108710
> [12] https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=106111
> [13] https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=108891
>
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Re: PSPad unicode 5.0.0 (117) English [68175]

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Ok, after some testing the problem is that the ASCII chart respects the setting
for text color, but ignores setting for background color, hence white text on
white background for me.

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Re: PSPad unicode 5.0.0 (117) English [68173]

[khagaroth]

Your operating system?
Selected code page on the top of ASCII chart?
It's really 117 build? Can you add screenshot?
Does anybode else has a similar problem?

Yes, it's 117. On Windows 10, no system theme modifications. Codepage doesn't
matter and while trying different codepages I also got this randomly:

Exception description:


Invalid code page.

Exception class: EEncodingError
Exception address: 00434D9D


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TTabSheet "tsAscii"
TPageControl "PageControl"
TfASCII "fASCII"
TPanel "pageDock"
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Re: PSPad unicode 5.0.0 (117) English [68171]

[khagaroth]

I'm getting empty ASCII chart. Well, It's not really empty (the entries are
there and do show up if a cell is selected), but it renders as empty, ie. I get
a visually empty table.

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Re: PSPad 5.0 future [68090]

[khagaroth]

Hmm, it's a tough choice between Encoding and Tools menu. Probably Tools.

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Re: PSPad 5.0 future [68024]

[khagaroth]

pspad:

I guess it's content comes from years of user experiences, so why
don't 
inspire
Actually, it was put there in one version by the author,
the end. No discussion about it, no usability review, nada. And it isn't really
that functional either, especially the "enter code page manually" entry is a
PITA to use since you have to hunt down the code page number yourself in the lis
of installed locales in windows control panel (which is btw impossible in
Windows 10, since it doesn't show the codepage anymore, yay).

Something like this:
Encoding

ANSI
OEM
UTF-8
UTF-8 (BOM)
UTF-16LE
UTF16-BE

Encoding 1
Encoding 2
Encoding 3
Encoding 4
Encoding 5

Other >


would be much better. (Encoding 1 ... Encoding 5 would be the 5 most used
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Re: Při editaci s UNIX koncem řádku přes FTP vznikají v souboru n= ečitelné znaky [67741]

[khagaroth]

Ta chyba byla sice hlášená s UTF-8, ale to podstatné je, že v obou
případech se chyba objevuje když je v textu "END".

@stanislav zkus tyhle kombinace:

{tabulátor}{mezera}{mezera}EndIF -> 

Re: Při editaci s UNIX koncem řádku přes FTP vznikají v souboru n= ečitelné znaky [67739]

[khagaroth]

To vypadá zase na [url=http://forum.pspad.com/read.php?4,65340#msg-65340]tuhle
chybu[/url].

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[libreoffice-documentation] Re: Getting rid of 'oldref' in the help files

[khagaroth]

>
> it seems the goal is to move away from .xhp to .xhtml
>
> I hope you meant HTML 5, because XHTML is a dead end (and good riddance).

html does not have markup for some of the semantics that we have (and need)
> in the help files (like  or  to name few)
>

Both  and  are part of HTML 5 and there is a good chance
the other things are as well.

there are many ways how to describe the same thing in html ('s and 's
> vs.  and  vs. 's with css vs. who-knows-what)


CSS is the preferred way, its the same as with styles and direct formatting
in Writer.

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Re: Getting rid of 'oldref' in the help files

[khagaroth]

>
> it seems the goal is to move away from .xhp to .xhtml
>
> I hope you meant HTML 5, because XHTML is a dead end (and good riddance).

html does not have markup for some of the semantics that we have (and need)
> in the help files (like  or  to name few)
>

Both  and  are part of HTML 5 and there is a good chance
the other things are as well.

there are many ways how to describe the same thing in html ('s and 's
> vs.  and  vs. 's with css vs. who-knows-what)


CSS is the preferred way, its the same as with styles and direct formatting
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[libreoffice-l10n] Re: Getting rid of 'oldref' in the help files

[khagaroth]

>
> it seems the goal is to move away from .xhp to .xhtml
>
> I hope you meant HTML 5, because XHTML is a dead end (and good riddance).

html does not have markup for some of the semantics that we have (and need)
> in the help files (like  or  to name few)
>

Both  and  are part of HTML 5 and there is a good chance
the other things are as well.

there are many ways how to describe the same thing in html ('s and 's
> vs.  and  vs. 's with css vs. who-knows-what)


CSS is the preferred way, its the same as with styles and direct formatting
in Writer.

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Re: unexpected, new special characters after saving [67543]

[khagaroth]

Old bug.

[url=http://forum.pspad.com/read.php?4,65340]Line replaced by gibberish
characters / Nesmyslné znaky nahrazují řádek[/url]

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Re: PSPad future - new editor engine [67481]

[khagaroth]

Since you are already going to do so much work, how about switching to Free
Pascal/Lazarus instead of Delphi?

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Re: Updating 32-bit Windows users to 64-bit Windows builds?

[khagaroth]

On Thursday, May 12, 2016 at 11:47:15 PM UTC+2, Karl Tomlinson wrote:
> Lawrence Mandel writes:
> 
> > Do we need this criteria?
> >
> > RAM - Does it hurt to move an instance that has <4GB?
> 
> Yes.  OOM will be more common with 64-bit builds on systems with
> less RAM because 64-bit builds use more memory.

Quite the opposite actually. The overhead is negligible, but the stability 
improvement is tremendous. After switching to 64-bit I haven't crashed even 
once for several months, whereas on 32-bit I crashed several times a week.
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Re: Line replaced by gibberish characters / Nesmyslné znaky nahrazují = řádek [66981]

[khagaroth]

ChipsNSalsa:

Original line

09 20 20 45 6E 64 49 46

had become

FF 00 20 45 3F 3F 49 46


Original line

09 45 6E 64 49 66

had become

FF 00 6E 64 3F 3F


Original line

09 45 6E 64 56 61 72

had become

FF 00 6E 64 3F 3F 72

09 is the tabulator character. Considering that tabulators are pretty
much completely broken in PSPad I'm not really surprised by another type of
brokenness related to them.

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Re: inteligentni file compare [64954]

[khagaroth]

Tohle umí například porovnání souboru v Total Commanderu. Jen to nezvládne
automaticky, ale musí se ručně nastavit body synchronizace. Trochu
pokročilejší je pak například Diffuse. Jednodušší příklady zvládne
automaticky a zbytek je možné dosynchronizovat ručně. Další možnost je
pak Meld, který umí i vytvářed patche.

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Re: PSPad unicode 4.5.9 (2528) Cesky [64288]

[khagaroth]

pspad:

problém s čárou za posledním znakem při použití fontů jakou
courier 
new
Tohle pořád ještě není opraveno u všech písem.
Například u Source Code Pro se čára pořád ještě zobrazuje třeba za
znakem tabulátoru.

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Re: Podpora porovnávania titulkov .SRT [63972]

[khagaroth]

Pokud by to bylo udělané univerzálně, např. tak, že by se pomocí
regulárních výrazů daly určit části textu, které by byly při
porovnání ignorovány, tak by to určitě bylo užitečné.
A když už mluvíme o úpravách porovnání, tak jedna z věcí, která PSPadu
hodně chybí, je ruční zarovnání rozdílů. Algoritmy pro porovnání umí
občas udělat pěknou kravinu, takže už sem viděl případy, kdy po ručním
zarovnání jednoho řádku klesl počet rozdílů z několika tisíc
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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] @Pootle developers... and it can help us here

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Yep, Pootle is too fragile in my experience. I personally prefer Weblate.
Its development was started exactly because Pootle was too buggy and it
turned out to be a more than adequate replacement. And the direct
integration into git/mercurial is just cool.

On Wed, Dec 3, 2014 at 12:00 PM, Sérgio Marques smarque...@gmail.com
wrote:

 2014-12-03 9:46 GMT+00:00 Sophie gautier.sop...@gmail.com:

  Hi Olivier,
  Le 03/12/2014 10:37, Olivier Hallot a écrit :
   I opened an enhancement suggestion to Pootle that may be of our
 interest
collaboration
  
   http://github.com/translate/pootle/issues/3400
  
  Thanks for this enhancement request, it's a nice one :)
  For information, I've joined the team directly and the Amagama server
  should be updated next week meaning that suggestions on Pootle and
  Virtaal will be LibreOffice ones and no more old OpenOffice.org ones.
 
  After that, I'll try to have our Pootle instance upgraded to the new
  version. There are several things they have to check before to make sure
  we don't loose previous functionality.
 

 Please be very sure that all works fine. I´m also translating lxde on their
 pootle instance and I must say that works worse than what we have now in
 LibO.

 Mainly the problems are related with statistics not being updated and it is
 showing words and sentences needing translating/review poorly.  For
 instance, a component is missing x translations. When we click on that x
 number, we get No results found. This could be misleading, especially in
 LibO project beacause ot its size.


 Regards



 
  Cheers
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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] @Pootle developers... and it can help us here

[khagaroth]

Er, you mean offline translation? Of course it supports offline
translations.

On Wed, Dec 3, 2014 at 6:30 PM, Sophie gautier.sop...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi,
 Le 03/12/2014 18:27, khagaroth a écrit :
  Yep, Pootle is too fragile in my experience. I personally prefer Weblate.
  Its development was started exactly because Pootle was too buggy and it
  turned out to be a more than adequate replacement. And the direct
  integration into git/mercurial is just cool.

 But Weblate is web only, so it's a no-go for us.
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Re: #4 can someone spot problem with simplebootstrap_cpp.cxx

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Don't change subject on every reply. It breaks threading and creates a mess
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Re: LiMux student kick-off

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This could be a pretty big minefield on Windows. Look at Chrome and
Firefox. They had to introduce ANGLE to do dynamic
OpenGL-Direct3D translation, because there were too many OpenGL bugs and
quirks, especially with Intel GPUs. Not to mention, that drivers installed
from Windows update have often limited OpenGL support and not everyone
installs drivers directly from GPU vendors. And yet they still have to use
a driver/HW blacklist. I guess LO can get away with much simpler
implementation, so it will not be as bad, but it's still something to
consider.

On Thu, Sep 18, 2014 at 3:25 PM, Michael Meeks michael.me...@collabora.com
wrote:

 Hi Ptyl,

 On Wed, 2014-09-17 at 21:08 +0300, Ptyl Dragon wrote:
  Regarding this, from the little i've learned so far of OpenGL, the
  main thing would be to avoid use the OpenGL extensions and API calls
  that don't exist in ES ... In other words, whatever feature of OpenGL
  we use, we should first ensure it exists in the target OpenGL ES
  version we choose, on Android and iOS.
 
 Sounds sensible; there is a nice list of things to avoid here:
 chart2/opengl/README.deprecated. FWIW - I got some insight from Markus
 via some low bandwidth / Australian out-back telegraph which is perhaps
 helpful =) He says:

 Sadly OpenGL ES is not a pure subset of normal OpenGL, at least
 of the versions that we target, so we need to make sure in both
 directions that the used features are available on both the
 OpenGL target version as well as in the OpenGL ES target
 version. Extensions can be used conditionally but core features
 are a bigger problem there.

 Actually I hope this is mostly a non-issue if we develop and debug
 this
 on a rich-platform rather than Android. Hopefully that way we only have
 to check we're not using things not available in GLES as you suggest.

 To elaborate on that point - IMHO once we have the stack
 efficiently
 rendering to GL from VCL through drawinglayer etc. on the PC then it is
 ~trivial to adapt this to tiled-rendering; it's just a different
 context / frame-buffer-object to render a part of the same scene to.

 So - why develop for PC first not Android ? well Android is the
 Devil's
 Armpit of a development environment. It is extraordinarily hard, and
 unreliable to debug native code there - the development iteration is not
 'compile,run' but 'compile,zip,sign,hope-up-load-works,run' with the
 middle phases being not only slow but also un-reliable ;-) And that is
 before we get to the horrible issues of trying to debug broken OpenGL
 shaders etc. which is bad enough in a well maintained development
 environment ;-) nevermind on a remote machine with a confused GPU ;-) Of
 course we'll still have to audit / port that work to Android (which
 should be easy) after we're done but ... when it works the set of bugs
 to nail should be mercifully smaller I hope.

  In my mind, what would have worked better is to avoid the quasi mode,
  do a pure OpenGL rendering, then integrating it in Desktop via a
  desktop tiled rendering mechanismthough i guess that's a waterfall
  in itself.

 I'd like to avoid that really; lets have the fewest moving parts at
 once - we may discover on desktop hardware that (if we can render much
 faster) there is no real need for tiling for desktop performance -
 though its always nice to be power efficient of course.

  I would think, the other platforms can wait since they are getting
  decent performance already. But i can see why you would disagree with
  me on this.
 
 For ease of development / debugging - it makes a huge amount of
 sense
 to develop this, at least initially on a PC platform I think.

  in our iOS implementation we solved the timer issues by considering
  them as damaged areas, similar to areas changed by editing. Viewer
  only functionality may not require this by default, but still, it can
  solve this without getting rid of the timers. Still, i agree that in
  the long run, the timer thing needs to go.

 Yep - it's a longer term thing; but I quite like the idea of
 binning
 immediate rendering via some just collect damage and re-render model
 =) it is IMHO a premature optimization on modern hardware.

  Perhaps to do some actual help, i should begin with doing some easy
  hacks on this front, just to get the taste of it.
  Would be good if someone could give me something to actually do.

 Heh =) I'll fwd some ideas Kendy sent out - that is assuming you
 have a
 Linux VM somewhere with GL ? (would be useful to have anyway)

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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Internal Updater

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I don't find this that useful. Unless the internal updater starts using
differential updates (which would be great), I think it's better to just
open the download site in a browser.


On Sun, Jul 20, 2014 at 7:35 PM, Joel Madero jmadero@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi All,

 I know we've discussed this already a few times - both within ESC and
 within the QA call but I wanted to get a better sense of what is needed
 to move forward with getting it fixed. FWIW I've closed 3 bugs this at
 least tangentially related to the subject.

 So - from what I understand the entire updater is just broken, when you
 get a notification that there is a new version you click it and it just
 takes you to the website where additional clicks are needed to download,
 and then more to install.

 QA has discussed this a few times and generally I think we've come up
 with a roadmap of what would be ideal but I know that it will require
 others to implement so I'm not trying to push this onto any developer
 just curious how (if at all) we can get it fixed.

 Phase I:
 Fix what is already there - currently you can go to Help - Check for
 Updates and there is a Install button that is always inactive. How
 much work would it take to at least fix that? If this will never get
 fixed (or be a long time) I think we should remove the button as it just
 reminds users about a broken feature that has been broken for a long
 time already.

 FWIW here I think we need to be clearer about what it means to check
 for update because it's based on what branch you are on


 Phase II:
 Add new options to allow a user to select the branch they want
 (fresh/stable/pre-release) and then another option to either download
 only or download and install which would automatically either
 download to a folder or download and install upon release.

 I think Phase II would be an amazing addition that would be kind of one
 of those big things we could run some PR about during a major release.


 Like I said - not pushing this on anyone, just curious where we stand as
 I see updater related bug reports and enhancement requests and QA has
 discussed it quite a few times as something that we feel need some
 love/attention.



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Re: Internal Updater

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I don't find this that useful. Unless the internal updater starts using
differential updates (which would be great), I think it's better to just
open the download site in a browser.


On Sun, Jul 20, 2014 at 7:35 PM, Joel Madero jmadero@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi All,

 I know we've discussed this already a few times - both within ESC and
 within the QA call but I wanted to get a better sense of what is needed
 to move forward with getting it fixed. FWIW I've closed 3 bugs this at
 least tangentially related to the subject.

 So - from what I understand the entire updater is just broken, when you
 get a notification that there is a new version you click it and it just
 takes you to the website where additional clicks are needed to download,
 and then more to install.

 QA has discussed this a few times and generally I think we've come up
 with a roadmap of what would be ideal but I know that it will require
 others to implement so I'm not trying to push this onto any developer
 just curious how (if at all) we can get it fixed.

 Phase I:
 Fix what is already there - currently you can go to Help - Check for
 Updates and there is a Install button that is always inactive. How
 much work would it take to at least fix that? If this will never get
 fixed (or be a long time) I think we should remove the button as it just
 reminds users about a broken feature that has been broken for a long
 time already.

 FWIW here I think we need to be clearer about what it means to check
 for update because it's based on what branch you are on


 Phase II:
 Add new options to allow a user to select the branch they want
 (fresh/stable/pre-release) and then another option to either download
 only or download and install which would automatically either
 download to a folder or download and install upon release.

 I think Phase II would be an amazing addition that would be kind of one
 of those big things we could run some PR about during a major release.


 Like I said - not pushing this on anyone, just curious where we stand as
 I see updater related bug reports and enhancement requests and QA has
 discussed it quite a few times as something that we feel need some
 love/attention.



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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] localization of converted dialogs for 4.3

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On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 5:00 PM, Cor Nouws nou...@xs4all.nl wrote:

 The idea is that the people that work in pootle, having to translate
 dialogs that are sometimes strange to them, can look at how it was
 before the conversion to ui.


A much better idea would be if someone actually converted the current
strings to the new format, so that we don't have to retranslate tons of
stuff just because of minor changes like a different accelerator character.
Though Pootle will probably screw up on update anyway, so I will have to
work with my offline translation memory and, unlike Pootle, OmegaT actually
has a working fuzzy matching and doesn't screw up on alternative
translations, so it will be an nonissue.

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Re: Cursor disappearing [61777]

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Yes, I can reproduce it on both W7 and 8.1. Hitting 2x insert, or minimizing and
restoring the window fixes it.

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Re: Cursor disappearing [61768]

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There is nothing to describe. This is an old bug (over 2 years old) and
completely random with no sure way to reproduce it, which is also the reason why
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Re: l10n process, en_US version, Help files

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On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 11:40 AM, Khaled Hosny khaledho...@eglug.orgwrote:

 On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 11:18:59AM +0100, Andras Timar wrote:
  On 2013.12.11. 17:19, Sophie wrote:
   - but that doesn't solve the several typos that already exist and that
   are overlooked by the l10n team (e.g in the Character  Font Effect
   dialog, there is Overline _c_olor and Underline _C_olor and this is the
   same for several dialogs)
 
  If it's overlooked by 60+ active translation teams + beta testers, then
  probably it is not that much important. We can live with it. :)

 If the localizers don’t test the actual UI (which I doubt they do, given
 how long it takes to build LibreOffice) and just translate the strings
 in Pootle, they are very unlikely to spot such inconsistencies, no
 matter how many teams we have.

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And frankly, most translators don't bother reporting such errors (or any
errors at all). There is enough work with the translation itself and Pootle
not having any way to report errors (though that function is already being
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Re: Wrong rendering of some font sizes in print preview [61593]

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Any news related to this.

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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Fwd: Text in UI, we do not understand

[khagaroth]

Purple pipe is a gradient name. You can find in Draw under Format - Page
- Background.


On Sat, Jul 13, 2013 at 9:42 AM, Mateusz Zasuwik mzasu...@gmail.com wrote:

 2013/7/13 Leo Moons leo.mo...@telenet.be:

  Elements Dock

 Hey

 This command show new sidebar in Math (find it in menu View)

 https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/ReleaseNotes/4.1#Math

 Elements dock mean Show/embed window with math's elements

 By the way. Anyone know what mean Purple pipe from

 File: svx/source/dialog.po
 Context: sdstring.src RID_SVXSTR_GRDT67 string.text

 Where can I find it?

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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Askbot translation

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The 'd' and 's' are printf format specifiers. 'd' means decimal, 's' means
string. They should be left alone unless you want to break things.

As for the missing plural forms, that's caused by wrong plural forms entry
in the .po header. It should be:

Plural-Forms: nplurals=3; plural=(n%10==1  n%100!=11 ? 0 : n%10=2 
n%10=4  (n%10010 || n%100=20) ? 1 : 2);


On Sat, Jul 13, 2013 at 9:36 PM, Krunoslav Šebetić kruno0...@gmail.comwrote:

  Hi,

 not shure what to do with some Askbot strings:
 https://translations.**documentfoundation.org/hr/**
 askbot/translate.html#page=2https://translations.documentfoundation.org/hr/askbot/translate.html#page=2

 On Pootle string has tri boxes (for singular, dual and plural), but I'm
 not translating online, using Poedit. When download .po files, Poedit does
 not recognize all three forms, just two of them: Form 0 and Form 1.

 Since this is not a Poedit mailing list, I wonder why downloaded .po file
 has only msgstr[0]  and msgstr[1] ? Can I manualy add msgstr[2]  to a
 django.po file?

 Next what I need to know what is a purpose of d in %(max_tags)d? Should
 that be unchanged in translation or should be translated? Samo thing with
 s outside the brackets in %(tags)s (https://translations.**
 documentfoundation.org/hr/**askbot/translate.html#unit=**41139275).https://translations.documentfoundation.org/hr/askbot/translate.html#unit=41139275).
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Re: Windows-1250 [60854]

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MirekSv:

... (což je ostatně správně, u UTF-8, by BOM být neměl)
...
Což je ta největší blbost jakou mohli soudruzi při definici
UTF-8 udělat.

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Wrong rendering of some font sizes in print preview [60836]

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For some font sizes, the rendering in print preview uses extremely large
character spacing. Example:

10pt
(viz http://i.imgbox.com/acrvA4AU.png )

11pt
(viz http://i.imgbox.com/acte4bfV.png )

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Re: [libreoffice-projects] [ANN] LibreOffice 4.1.0 Beta1 available

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Is anyone else getting a crash (no error message) when selecting Format -
Character..., Format - Paragraph... etc. etc.? (Win7 x64)


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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] [libreoffice-projects] [ANN] LibreOffice 4.1.0 Beta1 available

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Is anyone else getting a crash (no error message) when selecting Format -
Character..., Format - Paragraph... etc. etc.? (Win7 x64)


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Re: [libreoffice-projects] [ANN] LibreOffice 4.1.0 Beta1 available

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Is anyone else getting a crash (no error message) when selecting Format -
Character..., Format - Paragraph... etc. etc.? (Win7 x64)


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  https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/ReleasePlan/4.1#4.1.0_release

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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] LibreOffice 4.1 translation heads-up

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Unless you used hidden copy field, you sent this reply only to me, not to
the mailing list, so Andras would not see it. I'm reposting it to fix that.
But the search function is broken anyway, it doesn't find half of the
things even if it's working and since it uses really awkward syntax, it
treats some common words/chars as stopwords/keywords (for example 'to',
'or', any kind of parenthesis etc.).


On Sun, May 26, 2013 at 12:45 AM, Mateusz Zasuwik mzasu...@gmail.comwrote:



 2013/5/25 khagaroth khagar...@gmail.com

 So from the first look about 50% of missing strings are things that were
 already translated. And I have seen missing translations (really missing,
 not even marked as fuzzy) where the only difference is a dot at the end of
 a sentence, which is both silly and sad. Hurray for pointless work.


 I must agree with that. Also another problem are simple characters like
 , , =, =, E, N, Y, PDF, comma sign etc. It should be copied
 automatically.

 @Andras

 Could you refresh database (or something like that)? Search engine in
 Pootle doesn't work properly and I can't find anything, even my new
 translations.


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[libreoffice-l10n] Re: [libreoffice-projects] [ANN] LibreOffice 4.1.0 Beta1 available

[khagaroth]

Is anyone else getting a crash (no error message) when selecting Format -
Character..., Format - Paragraph... etc. etc.? (Win7 x64)


On Sun, May 26, 2013 at 1:04 AM, Thorsten Behrens 
t...@documentfoundation.org wrote:

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 The Document Foundation is pleased to announce the first Beta release
 of our new LibreOffice 4.1. The upcoming 4.1 will be our sixth major
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 features. Please be aware that LibreOffice 4.1 Beta1 is not ready yet
 for production use, you should continue to use LibreOffice 4.0.3 for
 that.

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 timings here:

  https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/ReleasePlan/4.1#4.1.0_release

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   http://www.libreoffice.org/download/pre-releases/

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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] LibreOffice 4.1 translation heads-up

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So from the first look about 50% of missing strings are things that were
already translated. And I have seen missing translations (really missing,
not even marked as fuzzy) where the only difference is a dot at the end of
a sentence, which is both silly and sad. Hurray for pointless work.


On Fri, May 17, 2013 at 2:14 PM, khagaroth khagar...@gmail.com wrote:

 That's to be hoped for, but Pootle isn't exactly great at this (mildly
 said), so I'm rather sceptical. After being bitten by this several times
 (not only with LO), I now keep a local copy of the Pootle files, so in the
 worst case I will be able to do my own leveraging.


 On Fri, May 17, 2013 at 10:45 AM, Sérgio Marques smarque...@gmail.comwrote:

 That would be awesome.

 Please make a post here the day before merge so we don´t do any work that
 could be lost.

 Regards


 2013/5/17 Andras Timar tima...@gmail.com

  Hi,
 
  LibreOffice 4.1 is approaching. In order to reduce the amount of
  translation work, I would like to smartly migrate 4.0 translations to
  4.1 in Pootle. Many source code changes happened, including the
  transition from .src format dialogs to .ui format dialogs. Hopefully
  old translations can be leveraged in high proportion. That means that
  you'll have less to translate and you will not have to translate
  things that you already have done.
 
  This will happen sometimes next week. At the same time 3.6
  translations will be removed from Pootle in order to save resources.
  4.0 and 4.1 will be there.
 
  Best regards,
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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] LibreOffice 4.1 translation heads-up

[khagaroth]

That's to be hoped for, but Pootle isn't exactly great at this (mildly
said), so I'm rather sceptical. After being bitten by this several times
(not only with LO), I now keep a local copy of the Pootle files, so in the
worst case I will be able to do my own leveraging.


On Fri, May 17, 2013 at 10:45 AM, Sérgio Marques smarque...@gmail.comwrote:

 That would be awesome.

 Please make a post here the day before merge so we don´t do any work that
 could be lost.

 Regards


 2013/5/17 Andras Timar tima...@gmail.com

  Hi,
 
  LibreOffice 4.1 is approaching. In order to reduce the amount of
  translation work, I would like to smartly migrate 4.0 translations to
  4.1 in Pootle. Many source code changes happened, including the
  transition from .src format dialogs to .ui format dialogs. Hopefully
  old translations can be leveraged in high proportion. That means that
  you'll have less to translate and you will not have to translate
  things that you already have done.
 
  This will happen sometimes next week. At the same time 3.6
  translations will be removed from Pootle in order to save resources.
  4.0 and 4.1 will be there.
 
  Best regards,
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Re: LibreOffice icons unofficial

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Very nice icon set, IMHO better than any of the current ones (but Galaxy is
close to perfection as well). You should ping des...@global.libreoffice.org,
though to be included it should be complete. There are still a few icons
missing here and there. The only complaint I have about the design is for
the Text color / Highlight / Background color icons and Save / Save as
(nothing can beat a diskette), they are not exactly intuitive, especially
the one for background color. But that's just nitpicking, this is
definitely my default icon set from now.


On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 3:09 AM, Mariano Gaudix 
marianocordobar...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi .



 I developed  a pack of icons  unofficial  for LibreOffice   .

 How  i can do  that  the  program   recognize my icons  ?
 Or  the icons  are  default  in the program  ?

 Downloads  icons  :


 http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php/Faenza+Icons++for+LibreOffice++4.0.0?content=157970

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Re: Grécke znaky - ISO 8859-7 [60156]

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Navíc i kdyby to uměl, tak ISO 8859-2 nezná řecké znaky, takže by ti z
toho stejně vylezl rozsypanej čaj.

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=?windows-1250?Q?Re:_File_Contents_were_Changed.__Reload?_[60110]?=

[khagaroth]

How about trying to use
ReadDirectoryChangesW (viz 
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/desktop/aa365465%28v=vs.85%
29.aspx ) instead of GetFileInformationByHandle? Don't
know how well it works for watching network folders, but it might be worth a
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[Desktop-packages] [Bug 87220]

[Khagaroth]

This is low priority and an enhancement, there is no real reason to
wontfix this, it can happily sit here another ten years before someone
finally fix it or before the AOO drawing layer rewrite is backported to
LO, reopened.

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Title:
  [Upstream] Wishlist: Add rotation of images to writer

Status in LibreOffice Productivity Suite:
  Confirmed
Status in The OpenOffice.org Suite:
  Unknown
Status in “libreoffice” package in Ubuntu:
  Won't Fix
Status in “openoffice.org” package in Ubuntu:
  Won't Fix

Bug description:
  Binary package hint: openoffice.org

  Currently when a picture is imported, it is impossible to rotate it.
  This makes the task of importing images/graphs into OpenOffice
  unneccessarily difficult and complex. Since OpenOffice already has a
  gazillion of options about images, it's quite amazing that it cannot
  rotate them.

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[Bug 87220]

[Khagaroth]

This is low priority and an enhancement, there is no real reason to
wontfix this, it can happily sit here another ten years before someone
finally fix it or before the AOO drawing layer rewrite is backported to
LO, reopened.

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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Translations of the help.libreoffice.org main page

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On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 10:55 PM, Martin Srebotnjak mi...@filmsi.netwrote:


 If you imagine - copy pasting or moving some page here and there in
 the wiki structure or changing wording here and there is an easy job
 in the wiki, but for translators this could mean many empty strings in
 Pootle of something that has been already almost fully translated.


That's just pootle/translate being  lame. Any sane translation tool is able
to cope with the simple changes like moved sentences and simple one or two
word edits. And the better ones use things like tokenizers (lucene) and
sentence level segmentation to get things right even on bigger changes. But
I agree that until someone puts some effort into pootle in this regard,
it's better not to attempt it.

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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] What dictionaries are installed with LibO 4.0 RC1?

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It's a feature. I don't know why you think the previous behavior was a good
thing, you are definitely a minority, most people found it annoying. But
that said, there is still the possibility, that the selection chosen for a
particular locale isn't optimal, so if you miss some dictionary for your
locale, feel free to file a bug.


On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 6:37 PM, Joan Montané j...@montane.cat wrote:

 Hi,

 testing LibO 4.0 RC1, we (Catalan team) have found that only few
 dictionaries are installed by default Windows installation, based on locale
 settings. That's fine? Is this change a feature? or is it a bug? I can
 remember in previous versions all dictionaries were installed, IMHO it was
 a good option.


 Regards,
 Joan Montané

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Re: [PUSHED 4.0] LATE FEATURE: Personas in LibreOffice

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It's useless without support for font color settings. Black text on black
persona isn't exactly great UX experience. Though to be fair, even with
support for this, some of the personas have rather weird color combinations
when checked in Firefox.


On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 2:38 PM, Stefan Knorr (Astron) 
heinzless...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi again,

 minor correction to my own post only
  LibO window with my (admittedly somewhat slow (1000 Mb/s)) connection

 Make that 1 MBit/s...

 Astron.
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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] [The Document Foundation – Pootle server] message by Konrad K

[khagaroth]

This is an old problem. The search in pootle is (and always was) pretty
broken. You simply cannot trust it  to return all relevant results.


On Sat, Dec 22, 2012 at 8:40 AM, pol...@pro.wp.pl wrote:

 Hi

 Why search engine in pootle cant find the new strings e.g. : drift,
 spot, rebate ?


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Re: [PATCH] Insert Table Dialog: Rename button back to AutoFormat, Acc...

[khagaroth]

Change it to Table format? AutoFormat sounds too stupid (not to mention
the missing space makes it look like an accidentally extracted constant)
and it would be a good thing to get rid of it.


On Sat, Dec 1, 2012 at 1:03 PM, Samuel Mehrbrodt (via Code Review) 
ger...@gerrit.libreoffice.org wrote:

 Hi,

 I have submitted a patch for review:

 https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/1217

 To pull it, you can do:

 git pull ssh://gerrit.libreoffice.org:29418/corerefs/changes/17/1217/1

 Insert Table Dialog: Rename button back to AutoFormat, Accelerators
 changed

 As requested in here:
 http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice/2012-November/041788.html

 http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-ux-advise/2012-November/001597.html

 Change-Id: I2cd3f4422dcbd62b1e72661d1df890bd0202c1ef
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 M sw/uiconfig/swriter/ui/inserttable.ui
 1 file changed, 3 insertions(+), 3 deletions(-)


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[libreoffice-l10n] New Pootle - unfiltered search option?

[khagaroth]

Did anyone find a way to search for a string and then edit strings adjacent
to the found one? This was easy in old pootle, but I'm unable to find a way
to do that in the new one. Now it only shows string matching the search
term and switching to a different filter option doesn't help as that skips
to the first string on first page instead of staying on the current one. If
this is really not supported, fixing errors will be a real pain.

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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] New Pootle - unfiltered search option?

[khagaroth]

Thanks, you saved me. I wonder if that's a feature (I can't find it
documented anywhere) of if it works just by pure luck.


On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 8:33 PM, Mihkel Tõnnov mihh...@gmail.com wrote:

 2012/11/20 khagaroth khagar...@gmail.com

  Did anyone find a way to search for a string and then edit strings
 adjacent
  to the found one? This was easy in old pootle, but I'm unable to find a
 way
  to do that in the new one. Now it only shows string matching the search
  term and switching to a different filter option doesn't help as that
 skips
  to the first string on first page instead of staying on the current one.
 If
  this is really not supported, fixing errors will be a real pain.
 

 For me the only thing that seems to work is to middleclick on the Unit
 123456789 link at the bottom, i.e. open it in a new tab.

 HTH
 Mihkel

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Re: what's the problem with system cairo ?

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On Sun, Nov 18, 2012 at 10:55 PM, Enrico Weigelt enrico.weig...@vnc.biz wrote:

 By the way: anybody working on porting the gtk or qt vcl to win32 or mac ?


If you mean if gtk/qt programs run on Windows, yes, they do and look
pretty native. The only problem with GTK is that the newest official
GTK version for windows is 2.24.10 as they seriously lack Windows
developers, so there is no one to make a 3.x version.
On Mac, GTK was really buggy, can't check if that is already fixed as
I don't have access to a Mac anymore.
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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] [ANNOUNCE] Start of LibreOffice 4.0 translation

[khagaroth]

On Sat, Nov 17, 2012 at 1:06 AM, Zeki Bildirici z...@ozgurlukicin.com wrote:
 Having 2 branches doubles the work for untranslated work.


Most strings are still the same, so you can translate in one branch,
download the files and upload them in the other branch. This doesn't
work 100% (it for example can't overwrite fuzzy strings with unfuzzied
ones), or didn't in 2.1.6, perhaps it's fixed in the new 2.2, I didn't
try yet. It's a pity pootle doesn't support translation propagation
between branches like some other online translators, for example
WebLate.

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Re: Adding the browser to Libreoffice

[khagaroth]

-1.

If you want to add something new instead of improving the current
functionality, the only thing that would make sense is an Outlook
counterpart. That's the only thing that's missing for a complete
office suite.
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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] New Pootle pilot server

[khagaroth]

I didn't find a functional problem when I quickly sweeped through it
(will test more thoroughly a bit later), but some of the active
elements (Show timeline, Add comment etc.) using the LO green are a
bit too faint and hard to see in their inactive state so that could
use some tweaking. Also the completion status bars use different
lengths, that seems to be intentional and depends on number of
strings, but it looks like it doesn't work 100%, ie in Czech UI
project, all the status bars are too short.

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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Pootle upgrade

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Unlike the current format, the glade UI files can be be translated
using gettext, so do you plan to finally switch LibreOffice to
gettext, so that we can have the possibility to test translations
without having to recompile the whole univers (ie something most
translator are not capable to do)?

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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Pootle Feature Request Survey

[khagaroth]

Voted. I guess the highest priority should be given to TM (preferably
with sentence level segmentation and matching using per language
optimized tokenizers) and auto propagation as that helps with
translation and makes it easier to have consistent translations. The
option to have screenshots is also a great idea, it is a chore (and
sometimes impossible) to find some rarely used functions and if the
string is something that can have several different translations
depending on context one sometimes ends up only guessing what the
translation should be.

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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Website project updated

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Updated Czech language.

 Is install a verb or a noun in this string?
 What is replaced by %s in runtime?


 Hi Joan,
 It's a noun and %s is replaced by AppUp (see
 http://www.libreoffice.org/download/?type=win-x86lang=caversion=3.6.1 ).

If AppUp is the only possibility, why the variable then?

PS: Could someone from the web team have a look at the extension site,
the translations don't work for that one.

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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Website project updated

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On Mon, Sep 24, 2012 at 3:38 PM, Sérgio Marques smarque...@gmail.com wrote:


 2012/9/24 khagaroth khagar...@gmail.com



 PS: Could someone from the web team have a look at the extension site,
 the translations don't work for that one.




 Pootle reports them as outdated

As Rimas already noted, I do mean the extension _website_, not the
pootle project. As I remember, the translations worked, then someone
tried to do some changes to the extension site without making a backup
(really good idea) and botched the job, forcing him to restore from
some older backup and since then, the translations don't work.

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Re: need help fixing some files with weird line feeds in the LO tree

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git config --global core.autocrlf true

Also on Windows I think it's better to use msysgit than the one in cygwin.
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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] How Can I Provide More Info For Developers

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The best solution would be to have a debug symbol server, then there
would be easily accessible debug symbols even for the release builds.
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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] How Can I Provide More Info For Developers

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The best solution would be to have a debug symbol server, then there
would be easily accessible debug symbols even for the release builds.
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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Requesting to add Website and Extensions projects to Belarusian language

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There isn't much point in translating the extensions site right now,
it isn't working.

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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Re: [BUG 52288] DATE: Allow truncated date inputs from numeric keyboard

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(from the bug)
 A suggestion: I'd like to see the old behaviour as a default:

NO! Definitely not. The old behavior was such a pain and it's a
godsend that it's finally fixed. Don't even consider such a stupid
idea. I can't even count how many silent/hidden data losses this
caused (especially on CSV import).

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Re: (great) widget layout progress

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How much work would it be to make this directly use gettext? I thought
the long term goal was to switch from custom translation formats to
gettext, so using yet another custom translation format for something
like this seems a bit odd.
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Re: gettext (was: (great) widget layout progress)

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Not really, that's what msgctxt is for.
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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Bug in pootle?

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This happened for me in Czech language on a few files too (for example
in Askbot djangojs.po). I fixed this by downloading the files an
translating them offline, then uploading back.
Speaking about Askbot, the PO files contain some suspicious strings
that don't look correct (for example use-these-chars-in-tags) and
don't correspond to the strings in the source files on Askbot git. And
I remember seeing a cutoff multiline string, where only the first line
was in the PO file. That might bee worth a look too.

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Re: [ANN] LibreOffice 3.6.0 RC4 test builds available

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I just installed RC4 and the bug of not starting on first run (only
the splash shows up and then nothing) is back (it was there for 3.5
and then fixed if I remember correctly).
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