over Brussels items (Florian Effenberger,
Thorsten Behrens, 10 mins)
6. Status Report, Discuss: Discussion and budget for developer roles
(Florian Effenberger, 10 mins)
7. Status Report, Discuss: Next steps legal ToDo items (tdf-board, 10
mins)
8. Discuss: Last minute item(s) (tdf-board, 5
Hi Andreas, dear list,
Andreas Mantke wrote:
> Am 29.03.23 um 15:58 schrieb Cor Nouws:
> > A personal interest is not a conflict of interest which in general is
> > not a reason to abstain from discussing topics.
> >
> sorry to be very clear here: I've never read or heard such nonsense
> inside
Hi Andreas, dear list.
Andreas Mantke wrote:
> I sense it very disturbing that the board put this topic on the agenda
> and the chairman was not able to answer an easy and clear question from
> the community during the call.
>
Full minutes are due soon, excerpt below to clarify:
* What has been
Vecchi, 5 mins)
3. Status Report: Move board-discuss & tdf-members to Discourse
(Florian Effenberger, Thorsten Behrens, 5 mins)
Materials:
* test instance
https://communitytest.documentfoundation.org/c/board-discuss/194
* import options and shortcomings, see
h
Hi,
the Board of Directors at the time of voting consists of 7 seat
holders (not including deputies). In order to be quorate, the vote
needs to have 1/2 or more of the Board of Directors members, which
gives 4.
A total of 4 Board of Directors members have participated in the vote.
The vote is
+1
I wrote:
> Dear board,
>
> as discussed during the last board call, it would help with producing
> better-quality minutes, if audio recordings would be available.
>
> Motion: ask Infra to setup a Jitsi recording facility for the TDF
> board room as soon as possible. Recordings should be made
Hi Guilhem, all,
Guilhem Moulin wrote:
> Note that jitsi has a “start recording” button (AFAICT only working
> on Chrome ATM, but available to anyone that's logged in). Files can
> then be downloaded locally, and later uploaded to BoD-shared
> storage.
>
Ah nice, that would be good enough for me
Report, Discuss: TDF 2023 Budget Planning (tdf-board, 15 mins)
7. Status Report: Leftover Brussels items (Florian Effenberger, Thorsten
Behrens, 5 mins)
8. Vote: Next steps ToDo items (Paolo Vecchi, 5 mins)
9. Discuss: Last minute item(s) (tdf-board, 5 mins)
Rationale: if there is time left
Dear board,
as discussed during the last board call, it would help with producing
better-quality minutes, if audio recordings would be available.
Motion: ask Infra to setup a Jitsi recording facility for the TDF
board room as soon as possible. Recordings should be made available
only to the
)
3. Discuss: Next in-person BoD meeting (Gabor Kelemen, 5 mins)
Proposal: Gabor would like to organize the next in-person BoD
meeting to make progress on various legal/budget/etc. issues
4. Discuss: Improving boards minuting (Florian Effenberger, Thorsten
Behrens, 10 mins)
5. Status Re
Dear Community,
find below the agenda for our in-person meeting in Brussels, on
Monday, February 6th from 0900 to 1800 local time.
## AGENDA:
1. budget, taxes, annual report
2. HR and hiring topics
3. process improvements (board & TDF)
4. tendering for 2023
5. other business
As per § 9 III of
Hi Andreas, all,
Andreas Mantke wrote:
> If you are not able to share the basics and answer the questions, you
> are not able to fulfill your function.
>
I think Cor just offered to publish more details. Can we please wait
for that?
Cheers,
-- Thorsten
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## AGENDA:
### Public Part
1. Answering questions from the community (tdf-board, 5 mins)
Rationale: Provide an opportunity for the community to ask
questions to the board and about TDF
2. Discuss, Vote: Join ALTER EU (Thorsten Behrens, 5 mins)
The ALTER EU
Hi Marina, all,
Marina Latini wrote:
> No no, it makes sense to keep WollMux under the LibreOffice org, I agree. If
> you are fine with the current status, can we start to work on WollMux?
>
I'd love to! :)
(Gabor is getting the last few handbook pages' existing German
translation put up on
Hi Marina, all,
marina latini wrote:
> The WollMux repos are now under the LibreOffice GitHub organisation
> that, to my understanding, should be just a read only mirror from
> our git instance hosting the LibreOffice source code.
>
That place was picked on purpose, since (in contrast to e.g. the
Dear all,
I wrote:
> Since there seems to be no general concerns, I'd then use the quiet
> period next week, to switch the github repos over to the libreoffice
> org. After that, we can look into the Jenkins setup.
>
This has happened meanwhile:
- WollMux -
Dear all,
Marina Latini wrote:
> On 05.12.2022 08:10, Samuel Mehrbrodt wrote:
> > Yes, these should be converted to master (after checking they are still
> > valid).
>
> yes, some help in closing invalid issues will be extremely valuable.
>
We can certainly look into that next year (CI needs
Hi Marina, all,
to keep this conversation going -
I wrote:
> Marina Latini wrote:
> > As per today, there are 8 open pull requests[5] and some of them are in
> > German. Is there any plan to translate the content or close the PRs in
> > German and reopen new PRs in English?
> >
> I'd leave
read the
statutes) in a venue where people can speak more freely.
Cheers, Thorsten
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Dear all,
Michael Stahl wrote:
> On 02.12.22 19:21, Jean-Baptiste Faure wrote:
> > If the ESC is an official TDF committee, where are its statutes, its
> > functioning rules and the rules of its members designation ?
>
> hmm i've wondered this too a while ago, i couldn't find a word in the TDF
>
+1
(thanks a lot for all the good feedback, feels great to get this
moving!)
Cor Nouws wrote:
> Dear people,
>
> Thanks for the constructive feedback on the proposal.
> Various changes applied, I now call a vote for the resolution below.
>
> Your response within 72 hours from now is much
Dear all,
sophi wrote:
> Le 02/12/2022 à 12:10, Michael Stahl a écrit :
> > how is this different from TDF employees Cloph, Heiko, Hossein, Ilmari,
> > Olivier, Stéphane, Sophie, and Xisco, who already consult weekly with
> > the ESC?
>
> Maybe this is subtle but the term "oversee" for me means
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Hi Marina, all,
Marina Latini wrote:
> I'm still struggling to understand why there was the need to trash 9 months
> of work for presenting a new text that sounds more like just the "abstract"
> of the previous document [...]
>
Sorry for not having explained this in a proper way.
The work is not
access to their email.
Cheers, Thorsten
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Hi Daniel,
Daniel A. Rodriguez wrote:
> Previous moderation, as you named, was not based on a board decision
> but yours.
>
Of course it was a board decision. Please stop spreading falsehoods.
Cheers, Thorsten
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Hi Andreas, all,
[public answer as requested]
Andreas Mantke wrote:
> I do not want to be threatened anymore by a member of the board. And it
> seems also others experience similar things, which is what today's
> emails from Emiliano, who is the vice chairperson, and Daniel, who is a
> member of
Hi all,
Emiliano Vavassori wrote:
> Willfully and actively excluding *just one single* legally elected
> director without *any whatsoever valid reason* for this exclusion is
> IMHO, at the very least, highly debatable and, for sure, it does not
> fit my general approach on making everyone, even
Hi Marina,
Marina Latini wrote:
> The license is "EUPL-1.1" but looking at some of the subfolders I found for
> example also mentions to GNU LGPLv2 [1].
>
Yep, that's part of the LibreOffice l10n tools, that Samuel was
cloning recently from there (and as such a build-time, not a runtime
Dear list,
this email is the occasional reminder, that at TDF, we strive to:
- be inclusive, and patient
- recognise each other as humans (with our different quirks &
cultures), and don't assume we stand for our group, company, or
nationality
- try to resolve personal conflicts privately (if
Hi all,
a vote was called under the pretense of consent, for a proposal that
did not leave the assigned working group with an approval.
That is in violation of good practice (to say the least), and it was
perfectly ok for directors to leave it on the table (instead of
working through 16 pages of
Hi Stephan, all,
Stephan Ficht wrote:
> Questions just to delay the matter more and more?
> At least that's the impression I get.
>
No. There was always support for getting devs hired. You've received
personal statements from me that this is not a delay tactic.
> After an incredible period of
Hi all,
Paolo Vecchi wrote:
> On 25/11/2022 14:04, Florian Effenberger wrote:
> > We believe that would do a lot of good for TDF, its mission, and the
> > LibreOffice community at large. It's been taking a long time, so if the
> > board is ready to vote and trusts the team to handle the project,
Hi Sophie,
sophi wrote:
> just for clarity for all, what would prevent it to be released as an
> extension on the extension site? is it too complex?
>
No, not at all, just needs someone updating it there (an older release
is available already:
Hi Susanne, all,
Susanne LO wrote:
> I will try to install wollmux, it does not work today.
> If it works, ipost some examples.
>
WollMux 18.2.10
(https://github.com/WollMux/WollMux/releases/tag/RELEASE_18.2.10), the
latest release, is only tested to work with LibreOffice 6.4.
For 7.3/7.4,
Hi Sophie,
sophi wrote:
> Will that stay as an extension or will it be integrated to
> LibreOffice core?
>
There's currently no plans to do so, no. I don't think that is
technically desirable, since the implementation is
Java-only.
> Is everything (code comments, strings, doc) still in German?
>
Dear community,
as announced during LibOCon, and subsequently discussed in the ESC,
here's the formal adoption proposal for the "WollMux" template / form
letter / mail merge engine / Java extension, from the City of Munich.
For reference, I attach the full proposal (so the initial version gets
Good evening Andreas, hi all,
Andreas Mantke wrote:
> I asked the board more than three weeks ago, to provide to TDF members
> the numbers from the Apple app store for the last years.
>
The current numbers were just published by Florian; for the past -
you've received a quite detailed answer from
Hi all,
Andreas Mantke wrote:
> I read about the decision to create a new CoC committee from community
> members
> (https://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/board-discuss/2022/msg01000.html).
>
Just to insert here, that the new CoC process is, in my mind,
unambiguously positive, and I'm
Hi all,
Andreas Mantke wrote:
> If the majority of the board acts in this way further, TDF inhouse
> developers will not be hired during its tenure of office.
>
There's no need for that level of negativity.
Rest assured, the board is as frustrated as everybody else with the
slow progress &
Hi Andreas, all,
Andreas Mantke wrote:
> I'd like to ask if there were progress to reach a final version and vote
> on this item during the meeting.
>
The minutes for the Monday meeting have just been posted, there was no
vote.
> But if there is not yet (after nine month of work) a final
Dear Kendy,
Jan Holesovsky wrote:
> I resign from the Membership (Board of Trustees), and consequently I
> also resign from the Board of Directors.
>
It's with a lot of sadness, that I read your resignation. It is also
unfortunately not coming as a surprise. :(
I'd like to thank you a lot, for
Hi *,
just a few thoughts, since I seem to be mentioned in the email. ;)
Paolo Vecchi wrote:
> On 05/11/2022 00:04, Stephan Ficht wrote:
> > Sorry, Simon, but IMHO I don't think this is the right wording.
> > PI and, if there are, resulting CoI's are clearly defined and written
> > down in all
Hi Stephan,
Stephan Ficht wrote:
> Regarding the email below, is there a need for any updates or information
> that needs to be shared publicly prior to the board meeting? on Oct 31?
>
I believe Italo answered meanwhile?
Best,
-- Thorsten
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ons as private emails) - this is, as said, standard
practice. For this list, it is even the recommended behaviour [1].
All the best, Thorsten
[1]
https://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/board-discuss/2022/msg00455.html
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Hi *,
Andreas Mantke wrote:
> it would help much more to read through the document from the European
> Commission, which was linked in the mail from Paolo in this thread.
>
We are a free software community, not a supranational, state-like
entity like the EU.
I would prefer we return to a sense
Hi Andreas, all,
Andreas Mantke wrote:
> Am 21.10.22 um 15:18 schrieb Simon Phipps:
> > On Fri, Oct 21, 2022 at 1:54 PM Andreas Mantke wrote:
> > if I read the minutes correctly there are four board members
> > with a CoI, because they provided or were involved in
> > providing
Hi all,
Andreas Mantke wrote:
> if the person concerned (like in this case) has no issue to discuss the
> topic in public there shouldn't be any reason to handle this in private.
>
There are good reasons to have a quick private discussion on the matter.
Of course, if the rest of the board
atus & timeline
* revenues from last month
* upgrade cycles - how many updates will users get?
4. Vote, Discuss: Move board-discuss to Discourse (Florian
Effenberger, Thorsten Behrens, 5 mins)
* discuss remaining question
* decide on moving ahead or not
### Private Part
5
a positive way, rather than excluding people or opinions. With that
view, it would be great to see the group expanded, perhaps even by
people with relevant experience, but entirely outside our community
(which should help with neutrality and balance, I guess).
Cheers, Thorsten
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Hi Andreas,
Andreas Mantke wrote:
> When could the community expect to get the announcement of the final
> results of the MC elections 2022?
>
The announcements just went out. The above is an odd question (from
someone who used to be on the board), less than 24h after the
challenging phase
tglied des
Mitglieder-Komitees der The Document Foundation, nehme mein Amt
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beginnt am 19. September 2022.
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Dear members, all,
## 2022 MEMBERSHIP COMMITTEE ELECTION RESULTS
The TDF board, as the body administering the 2022 Membership Committee
election, hereby announces the FINAL results. The challenging phase
has ended with no complaints.
Elected as full members of the TDF Membership Committee are,
Dear all,
Paolo Vecchi wrote:
> Some members of the board alleged that I was in Conflict of Interests (CoI)
> in regards to LibreOffice Online (LOOL) and Collabora Office Online (COOL).
>
Correction - the board has determined that Paolo has/had a private interest
in Online. According to our CoI
u who have that token!
> >
> > The results to verify, for all members who voted, are here:
> > https://elections.documentfoundation.org/votes.php?election_id=15
> >
> > In case you think there is any irregularity, or if there are other
> > questions, pleas
Hi Andreas, all,
for the moment, this is a members-only discussion.
Cheers,
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is any irregularity, or if there are other
> questions, please contact the board AS SOON AS POSSIBLE, and in any
> case no later than Thursday, 2022-09-15, 24:00 CEST/UTC+2, via
> electi...@documentfoundation.org
>
> For further details and the timeline, please check this summary pag
://elections.documentfoundation.org/2022-mc/rules.html
On behalf of the board,
Thorsten
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Dear community, all,
with the MC election over & the discussion culture on this list much
improved, the board has decided to end the moderation of this list
effectively now.
We encourage everyone to still strive towards civil, friendly &
forward looking messages, assuming goodwill and continue
Hi Andreas,
I suggested it earlier, let me now strongly suggest it again - if you
want actual, code-related or technical questions solved for real,
please let's bring it to the attention of the developer
community. Here's the way to get direct interactions: [1].
Andreas Mantke wrote:
>
Dear Members,
the vote for the next TDF Membership Committee is ongoing. You've got
a bit less than two days left to cast your vote, the voting phase ends
at:
Wednesday, 2022-09-07, 24:00 CEST/UTC+2: end of the election
You should have received your Membership Committee elections voting
token
Hi Andreas, all,
Andreas Mantke wrote:
> Am 02.09.22 um 18:47 schrieb Andras Timar:
> > Just for the record, the incriminated code is used solely by the iOS
> > app (Collabora Office). Are there other iOS apps that broke because of
> > the lool->cool change? As far as I'm concerned there aren't
Hi Andreas,
Andreas Mantke wrote:
> I wonder what is the usual time slot it needs to merge a reviewed
> and ready patch into the LibreOffice repository.
>
Answering as a developer here (and not as board member) - I think you
will get better answers & suggestions what to do, on the LibreOffice
Dear TDF members,
you all should have by now received an email with your personal token
and the invitation to vote for the new Membership Committee!
It was sent with the subject
"Your The Document Foundation 2022 Membership Committee Elections
Voting Token"
and the sender is
Hi *,
as hinted at last week in my announcement for the election roster,
we'll have live Q sessions with the candidates!
## Where
* on TDF's Jitsi instance
* same URL for all three sessions:
https://jitsi.documentfoundation.org/MCElections2022
## When
- Tuesday, August 30th: 11.00-13.00 UTC
ttps://elections.documentfoundation.org/2022-mc/rules.html
[2] https://elections.documentfoundation.org/2022-mc/candidates.html
[3] electi...@documentfoundation.org
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Dear board, all,
Caolán McNamara wrote:
> We hereby call for the following VOTE, which will start Friday,
> 2022-07-29 00:00 UTC+2/CEST and will then run for 72h.
>
Given the current, substantially different situation the board finds
itself in, I would much prefer to shelve this vote for the
sten
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https://www.documentfoundation.org/statutes.pdf (non-binding translation)
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iendly way to phrase the above, would be to first
assess whether your assumptions are correct (which apparently they are
not), and then recommend changes. Stereotypings like yours are a
negative, not a positive way to interact.
Cheers, Thorsten
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Th
Hi Heiko, all,
Heiko Tietze wrote:
> There is no immediate action required, but some generic thumbs-up support
> would be appreciated. It's planned to outline the project in a blog post as
> next step. And to bring it to the attention of the ESC.
>
Sounds very supportable to me, thx for the
n is one purely of professional curiosity, as a lawyer,
> trying to understand the ratio decidendi as to why the change was
> felt necessary.
>
In the cited decision, that clause helped to strike down a contract as
invalid, that would have otherwise been harmful to that other
foundation.
Best
Dear list,
there was a lot of support in the board to at least temporarily switch
this list to moderation.
As such, every email to this list will npw be moderated - we'd like
everyone to please aspire to our communication guidelines, and in any
case comply with our Code of Conduct.
This is not
Dear list,
it seems a number of appeals to get the discussion on this list to
become friendly and constructive again have failed.
Over the time, me and others have tried (in public and in private) to
nudge people to be considerate, and also to moderate discussions (in
the sense of balancing
Hi Andreas, all,
[changing the subject to reflect the discussion character]
Andreas Mantke wrote:
> >> it is very interesting to read this criteria and compare it with the git
> >> log of COOL. It seemed even this Github repo (project) didn't attract
> >> the number of volunteers, which are
Hi Sophie,
sophi wrote:
> Could you explain me why you see it as a marketing topic?
>
That is a misunderstanding - I was referring to Uwe's workshop,
which was called 'marketing workshop' on both occasions.
Cheers,
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Hi Uwe,
Uwe Altmann wrote:
> I'm willing to prepare and moderate a session (similar to the one in
> Brno) If there is some interest within the community because it
> doesn't make sense to do this with three to five Persons new at the
> project as we had in Rome.
>
I'd certainly be interested. It
Dear community,
the following vote happened after our Monday board call, on request as
a private email vote:
> The board sees positive & constructive news around renewed
> developer interest in LibreOffice Online. To further encourage
> initiatives to collaborate on a single, TDF-hosted
Hi Andreas, all,
Andreas Mantke wrote:
> Thus the board has to amend the result at least. And if the vote of the
> member with a CoI was decisive the proposal was rejected.
>
Our current CoI policy makes some helpful distinctions between an
interest in something, and the determination of an
your
sources - is it this repo on github:
https://github.com/freeonlineoffice/online
?
Thanks, Thorsten
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Hi Andreas, *,
Andreas Mantke wrote:
> I don't see the necessary respect for the work of every individual
> in the LibreOffice community and all talents. It looks like if the
> developers think they are the only important part in the community.
>
TDF has been celebrating & acknowledging the work
Dear list,
just the occasional reminder, to please:
- be inclusive, and patient - lets have email threads make incremental
progress towards a shared understanding (and stop, once we realize we
need to agree to disagree)
- recognise each other as humans (with our different quirks &
Dear community,
bumping the message below, if you have additional feedback on the
proposal. Please also indicate if you think there should be more time.
Best, Thorsten
I wrote:
> Dear community,
>
> we should now seek to finalize work on the in-house developer
> proposal.
>
> - we agree that
.
There is possibly a more general question behind this (along the
'using foundation resources' issue), which perhaps the board can form
an opinion on. Then it would be on-topic here.
Cheers, Thorsten
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Dear community,
we should now seek to finalize work on the in-house developer
proposal.
- we agree that we want to hire developers
- there is now only very few areas where the merged proposal should be
tweaked to reach broader consensus
- we do want a single document to vote on in the end
- we
Hi Paolo,
[last comment from me on this sub-thread]
Paolo Vecchi wrote:
> There isn't and hasn't been much debate going on and the ESC has
> been asked to vote today about killing LOOL.
>
Whatever the outcome of the ESC discussion - moving to the attic is
not 'killing' a project (which is an
Hi Andreas, all,
Andreas Mantke wrote:
> Am 8. Juni 2022 22:35:01 MESZ schrieb Thorsten Behrens
> :
> >As such, lets please get back to the topic.
> >
>
> Because the acting people from that years hasn't realy changed I
> think that gives a clearer view on the
Dear list,
Andreas Mantke wrote:
> > Interestingly I cannot remember TDF ever tendering for LibreOffice
> > Online work, can you please point me to the details?
> TDF tendered in 2014/2015 the work for the Android editing, which was
> explained to the board also as important for LOOL.
>
That
Hi *,
Florian Effenberger wrote:
> Simon Phipps wrote on 04.06.22 at 10:59:
> > Can you tell us who "attended" the "meeting" please as only 5 votes were
> > recorded so 2 must have been absent.
>
> that's something for the board to decide, how they want to handle this -
> happy to update the
Hi Ilmari,
Ilmari Lauhakangas wrote:
> On 3.6.2022 11.58, Thorsten Behrens wrote:
> > [1] curious as in - how much weight should that carry, when writing
> > the job posting / assessing skills?
>
> It's a necessity. I have newbie level experience that I definitely hop
Hi Ilmari, all,
Ilmari Lauhakangas wrote:
> Tendering and in-house development are not interchangeable, but they are
> interlinked. Keep in mind that the in-house devs would participate in
> running tenders.
>
That's a possibility, yeah. But just curious [1], is that currently a
bottleneck for
Dear list, Kendy & Andreas,
let me repeat my earlier request to keep the interaction on this list
friendly and productive.
In particular, don't offend, and try not to be offended. This part of
the thread is not making progress towards coming up with a final,
merged proposal for in-house
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