Craig L Russell wrote on Mon, 9 Nov 2009 at 14:12 -0800:
Hi Greg,
I'm afraid that you have totally mistranslated my message and I have no idea
why.
I'm not trying to pick a fight.
I'm trying to be reasonable.
I don't perceive your reaction as positive.
I'm not going to continue
Greg Stein wrote:
Sponsors
* Champion: Greg Stein
Cool
* Nominated Mentors: Justin Erenkrantz, Greg Stein, Sander Striker, Daniel
Rall
Once again, caution against committers == mentors (== 'project leads').
It puts certain committers above others, an inequitable situation.
If the PPMC
Greg Stein wrote:
The Subversion project would like to join the Apache Software
Foundation to remove the overhead of having to run its own
corporation. The Subversion project is already run quite like an
Apache project, and already counts a number of ASF Members amongst
its committers.
Greg Stein wrote:
The Apache Incubator is about EDUCATION. It is about TEACHING podlings
how to work here at Apache.
I'm a little confused. I'm reading a really long rant here, but I expect
if you look at what nearly all mentors do in their respective podlings,
this is exactly what they
Justin Erenkrantz wrote:
On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 3:26 PM, Martijn Dashorst
martijn.dasho...@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 3:15 PM, Justin Erenkrantz jus...@erenkrantz.com
wrote:
To be clear, it's on the mentors to decide what is applicable and
necessary for graduation - not the
Joe Schaefer wrote:
From: Justin Erenkrantz jus...@erenkrantz.com
Let me put it another way: if the IPMC accepts a proposal with one
mentor, then I'm fine with that one mentor acting on behalf of the
IPMC without the need to constantly go back to the IPMC for approval.
-- justin
For
Greg Stein wrote:
Yup. And I'll note that that limbo you describe has been an issue
with the Board for a long while now. That is why the Board instructed
the IPMC to request all podlings to list two items in their reports:
1) when did you arrive?
2) what is left?
Specifically to focus
Martijn Dashorst wrote:
Would a waiver be possible for Diversity (large project dominated by 1
or 2 vendors)? For the minimum required binding votes (small
communities of 2 committers)?
Such things have been requested, and granted in the past, based on the
demonstrated ability of the project
Leo Simons wrote:
Here's what I understand:
1) Apache rule: all apache releases must be made by PMCs
2) Apache rule: a release needs at least 3 binding +1s and more +1s than -1s
3) from #1 and #2 it follows that all incubator releases must be made
by the incubator PMC
If you see a way
On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 4:56 PM, Justin Erenkrantz jus...@erenkrantz.com wrote:
...Let me put it another way: if the IPMC accepts a proposal with one
mentor, then I'm fine with that one mentor acting on behalf of the
IPMC without the need to constantly go back to the IPMC for approval
I see
C. Michael Pilato wrote:
Our goal is to bring our Serf integration up to the quality (in terms of
both user experience and proper API adherence) of our Neon one so that
Serf
can safely become the new default DAV RA implementation, yes. It's mostly
there, but still contains a few gotchas.
On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 5:43 PM, Greg Stein gst...@gmail.com wrote:
...I am seeking a
waiver of the make a release requirement. And you can simply wait
for me to send that, rather than continuing to speculate about whether
I'm going to rely on seniority or on experience
I like that - at
On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 8:23 AM, William A. Rowe, Jr.
wr...@rowe-clan.net wrote:
Greg Stein wrote:
Sponsors
* Champion: Greg Stein
Cool
* Nominated Mentors: Justin Erenkrantz, Greg Stein, Sander Striker, Daniel
Rall
Once again, caution against committers == mentors (== 'project
Igor Burilo wrote:
C. Michael Pilato wrote:
Our goal is to bring our Serf integration up to the quality (in terms of
both user experience and proper API adherence) of our Neon one so that
Serf
can safely become the new default DAV RA implementation, yes. It's mostly
there, but still
On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 09:59, C. Michael Pilato cmpil...@collab.net wrote:
...
I certainly understand why license issues would be a concern. But I could
use an education about why this particular case matters. We currently ship
Neon in a separate tarball from Subversion's core code for the
On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 10:10 AM, Greg Stein gst...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 09:59, C. Michael Pilato cmpil...@collab.net wrote:
...
I certainly understand why license issues would be a concern. But I could
use an education about why this particular case matters. We currently
On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 03:23, William A. Rowe, Jr. wr...@rowe-clan.net wrote:
...
* Nominated Mentors: Justin Erenkrantz, Greg Stein, Sander Striker, Daniel
Rall
Once again, caution against committers == mentors (== 'project leads').
It puts certain committers above others, an inequitable
On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 07:06, Leo Simons m...@leosimons.com wrote:
On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 8:23 AM, William A. Rowe, Jr.
wr...@rowe-clan.net wrote:
Greg Stein wrote:
Sponsors
* Champion: Greg Stein
Cool
* Nominated Mentors: Justin Erenkrantz, Greg Stein, Sander Striker, Daniel
Rall
On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 3:23 AM, William A. Rowe, Jr.
wr...@rowe-clan.net wrote:
Greg Stein wrote:
Sponsors
* Champion: Greg Stein
Cool
* Nominated Mentors: Justin Erenkrantz, Greg Stein, Sander Striker, Daniel
Rall
Once again, caution against committers == mentors (== 'project
On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 10:28 AM, Niclas Hedhman nic...@hedhman.org wrote:
The binaries doesn't matter, Apache releases source code, licensed under
Apache license v2.0. And we only distribute certain licensed dependencies.
As Greg said, we need to provide solutions that does not force
On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 03:48, William A. Rowe, Jr. wr...@rowe-clan.net wrote:
Greg Stein wrote:
The Apache Incubator is about EDUCATION. It is about TEACHING podlings
how to work here at Apache.
I'm a little confused. I'm reading a really long rant here, but I expect
if you look at what
The binaries doesn't matter, Apache releases source code, licensed under
Apache license v2.0. And we only distribute certain licensed dependencies.
As Greg said, we need to provide solutions that does not force downstream
users into the (L)GPL world. So, a project that requires these dependencies
On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 03:59, William A. Rowe, Jr. wr...@rowe-clan.net wrote:
Greg Stein wrote:
Yup. And I'll note that that limbo you describe has been an issue
with the Board for a long while now. That is why the Board instructed
the IPMC to request all podlings to list two items in their
On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 04:07, William A. Rowe, Jr. wr...@rowe-clan.net wrote:
Leo Simons wrote:
Here's what I understand:
1) Apache rule: all apache releases must be made by PMCs
2) Apache rule: a release needs at least 3 binding +1s and more +1s than -1s
3) from #1 and #2 it follows that
On Nov 10, 2009, at 7:10 AM, Greg Stein wrote:
On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 09:59, C. Michael Pilato cmpil...@collab.net wrote:
...
I certainly understand why license issues would be a concern. But I could
use an education about why this particular case matters. We currently ship
Neon in a
C. Michael Pilato wrote:
I certainly understand why license issues would be a concern. But I could
use an education about why this particular case matters. We currently
ship
Neon in a separate tarball from Subversion's core code for the convenience
of our users, but if that's a problem, we
On Fri, Nov 6, 2009 at 7:21 AM, Leif Hedstrom l...@ogre.com wrote:
On Nov 5, 2009, at 11:13 PM, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote:
On Thu, Nov 5, 2009 at 6:22 PM, Leif Hedstrom zw...@apache.org wrote:
Hi all,
the Traffic Server podling PMC has deliberated hard, and we've decided
that it's best for
On Nov 10, 2009, at 9:16 AM, Mark Phippard wrote:
On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 10:10 AM, Greg Stein gst...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 09:59, C. Michael Pilato cmpil...@collab.net wrote:
...
I certainly understand why license issues would be a concern. But I could
use an education
On Nov 10, 2009, at 10:44 AM, Greg Stein wrote:
On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 03:48, William A. Rowe, Jr. wr...@rowe-clan.net
wrote:
Greg Stein wrote:
The Apache Incubator is about EDUCATION. It is about TEACHING
podlings
how to work here at Apache.
I'm a little confused. I'm reading a
On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 3:59 PM, C. Michael Pilato cmpil...@collab.net wrote:
Subversion client and server that doesn't use a DAV layer at all. The
Subversion community has never released binaries -- ever -- not do we plan
to.
That would a completely new philosophy for an Apache project,
On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 4:05 PM, Greg Stein gst...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 04:07, William A. Rowe, Jr. wr...@rowe-clan.net
wrote:
Leo Simons wrote:
Here's what I understand:
1) Apache rule: all apache releases must be made by PMCs
2) Apache rule: a release needs at least
On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 11:16, Blair Zajac bl...@orcaware.com wrote:
On Nov 10, 2009, at 7:10 AM, Greg Stein wrote:
On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 09:59, C. Michael Pilato cmpil...@collab.net wrote:
...
I certainly understand why license issues would be a concern. But I could
use an education
On Nov 10, 2009, at 10:29 AM, Jochen Wiedmann wrote:
On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 3:59 PM, C. Michael Pilato cmpil...@collab.net
wrote:
Subversion client and server that doesn't use a DAV layer at all. The
Subversion community has never released binaries -- ever -- not do we plan
to.
That
On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 11:29, Jochen Wiedmann
jochen.wiedm...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 3:59 PM, C. Michael Pilato cmpil...@collab.net
wrote:
Subversion client and server that doesn't use a DAV layer at all. The
Subversion community has never released binaries -- ever -- not
I like Leo's proposal. With PMC members mentoring multiple projects, it
is really a burden to try and get 3 votes for a release.
Shanti
Leo Simons wrote:
On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 4:05 PM, Greg Stein gst...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 04:07, William A. Rowe, Jr.
On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 11:22, Leo Simons m...@leosimons.com wrote:
On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 4:05 PM, Greg Stein gst...@gmail.com wrote:
...
The IPMC is in charge of its operation. It can redefine the rules of
releases as it pleases. The three +1 rule was developed to show that
the PMC is in
On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 11:23, Kevan Miller kevan.mil...@gmail.com wrote:
On Nov 10, 2009, at 10:44 AM, Greg Stein wrote:
...
And that is exactly what I'd like to do. But when the Incubator
*imposes* requirements of release that does not meet the project's own
quality guidelines, for an
Mark Phippard wrote:
I gave counsel to the Eclipse Foundation and explained that they could
provide a fully functioning JavaHL library to users with only EPL
compatible code. Basically, you just need to build without Neon, BDB
and libintl support. Of the three, the only thing an Eclipse
Mark Phippard wrote:
As an SVN committer, I can say that this is not something that is of
concern to me (and I dare say I probably speak for all or at least
most of the other committers when I say that).
Thanks for that reassurance...
Finally, I will also add that we have had our SVN Corp
William A. Rowe Jr. wrote:
Mark Phippard wrote:
I gave counsel to the Eclipse Foundation and explained that they could
provide a fully functioning JavaHL library to users with only EPL
compatible code. Basically, you just need to build without Neon, BDB
and libintl support. Of the
On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 12:52 PM, William A. Rowe Jr.
wr...@rowe-clan.net wrote:
Mark Phippard wrote:
I gave counsel to the Eclipse Foundation and explained that they could
provide a fully functioning JavaHL library to users with only EPL
compatible code. Basically, you just need to build
Hi,
On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 7:40 PM, Greg Stein gst...@gmail.com wrote:
We're making a 1.6.7 release in the next 2-3 weeks, as I stated
before. The Incubator can see how that works (I also gave pointers to
1.6.6).
+1 Since Subversion release procedures already meet most Apache
policies,
Greg Stein wrote:
On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 03:48, William A. Rowe, Jr. wr...@rowe-clan.net
wrote:
Quite frankly, all svncorp releases could, with reasonable documentation
[read: mailing list archives, CLA's and code grant] be licensed as ASF
releases under the AL 2.0, irrespective of their
Greg Stein wrote:
The IPMC is in charge of its operation. It can redefine the rules of
releases as it pleases. The three +1 rule was developed to show that
the PMC is in charge of the release, and is therefore legally liable
for it. The IPMC can do whatever it likes around releases, as long
Hello IPMC,
The Subversion podling would like a waiver of the requirement to make
a release before graduation.
As we understand this requirement, it is present in order to
demonstrate to the podling how releases are made at the ASF.
Packaging, licensing, signing, placement into the
- Original Message
From: William A. Rowe Jr. wr...@rowe-clan.net
To: general@incubator.apache.org
Sent: Tue, November 10, 2009 10:08:40 AM
Subject: Re: Insanity. Apache Incubator should be about education (was:
[PROPOSAL][VOTE] Subversion)
Greg wrote:
Look at the context.
On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 13:11, William A. Rowe Jr. wr...@rowe-clan.net wrote:
Greg Stein wrote:
The IPMC is in charge of its operation. It can redefine the rules of
releases as it pleases. The three +1 rule was developed to show that
the PMC is in charge of the release, and is therefore
On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 13:02, Jukka Zitting jukka.zitt...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi,
On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 7:40 PM, Greg Stein gst...@gmail.com wrote:
We're making a 1.6.7 release in the next 2-3 weeks, as I stated
before. The Incubator can see how that works (I also gave pointers to
1.6.6).
I have no idea why the term Board even comes up in your response.
What's that got to do with my problems with the IPMC attempting to
impose make-work on the svn podling?
On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 13:03, William A. Rowe Jr. wr...@rowe-clan.net wrote:
Greg Stein wrote:
On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at
Branko Čibej wrote:
Wait a minute. Are you implying that the project *should* release
binaries? Wouldn't such a requirement apply to, say, APR, to keep this
close to home?
s/should/may/
Greg pointed out I make win32 binaries and these are not mandated, I do so
only because I trusted that
Mark Phippard wrote:
I do not believe the project wants to be in the business of providing
binaries and we have an existing ecosystem of people that are
providing them successfully.
As long as non-committer artifacts aren't hosted here, that is no trouble.
If nobody on SVN wants to create
Joe Schaefer wrote:
- Original Message
From: William A. Rowe Jr. wr...@rowe-clan.net
To: general@incubator.apache.org
Sent: Tue, November 10, 2009 10:08:40 AM
Subject: Re: Insanity. Apache Incubator should be about education (was:
[PROPOSAL][VOTE] Subversion)
Greg wrote:
Greg Stein wrote:
The Subversion podling would like a waiver of the requirement to make
a release before graduation.
As we understand this requirement, it is present in order to
demonstrate to the podling how releases are made at the ASF.
Packaging, licensing, signing, placement into the
On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 6:17 PM, Greg Stein gst...@gmail.com wrote:
Hello IPMC,
The Subversion podling would like a waiver of the requirement to make
a release before graduation.
As we understand this requirement, it is present in order to
demonstrate to the podling how releases are made at
Greg Stein wrote:
I have no idea why the term Board even comes up in your response.
What's that got to do with my problems with the IPMC attempting to
impose make-work on the svn podling?
Because when you post to a broad-list such as general@, you are
communicating to all incubating podlings
On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 10:17 AM, Greg Stein gst...@gmail.com wrote:
Hello IPMC,
The Subversion podling would like a waiver of the requirement to make
a release before graduation.
As we understand this requirement, it is present in order to
demonstrate to the podling how releases are made
- Original Message
From: Luciano Resende luckbr1...@gmail.com
To: general@incubator.apache.org
Sent: Tue, November 10, 2009 10:51:44 AM
Subject: Re: [VOTE] Request for Waiver of Make a Release requirement for
Incubator graduation
On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 10:17 AM, Greg Stein
Before graduation, I expect ALL podlings to, at some point, present the
Incubator PMC with some artifacts that the podling community feels meets the
Apache legal requirements. I don't care if said artifacts are a release or
a nightly snapshot or a one off, but I expect to see such artifacts
On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 13:54, Joe Schaefer joe_schae...@yahoo.com wrote:
- Original Message
From: Luciano Resende luckbr1...@gmail.com
To: general@incubator.apache.org
Sent: Tue, November 10, 2009 10:51:44 AM
Subject: Re: [VOTE] Request for Waiver of Make a Release requirement for
On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 13:51, Luciano Resende luckbr1...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 10:17 AM, Greg Stein gst...@gmail.com wrote:
Hello IPMC,
The Subversion podling would like a waiver of the requirement to make
a release before graduation.
As we understand this requirement,
I agree with the following, i don't think a waiver is needed right now...
This is a graduation issue, why can't it just wait
until then and say in the graduation proposal there's not been a
release but its not necessary because of x y z.
thanks,
dims
On 11/10/2009 01:49 PM, ant elder wrote:
- Original Message
From: Greg Stein gst...@gmail.com
To: general@incubator.apache.org
Sent: Tue, November 10, 2009 11:00:07 AM
Subject: Re: [VOTE] Request for Waiver of Make a Release requirement for
Incubator graduation
On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 13:54, Joe Schaefer wrote:
Consider this withdrawn for now.
I'll resubmit when we think we're nearing time for graduation.
Cheers,
-g
On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 13:17, Greg Stein gst...@gmail.com wrote:
Hello IPMC,
The Subversion podling would like a waiver of the requirement to make
a release before graduation.
As we
On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 11:29 AM, Jochen Wiedmann
jochen.wiedm...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 3:59 PM, C. Michael Pilato cmpil...@collab.net
wrote:
Subversion client and server that doesn't use a DAV layer at all. The
Subversion community has never released binaries -- ever --
There are two other issues to discuss for the Subversion podling:
* moving the mailing lists directly to @subversion.apache.org
* placing the source code at /subversion/ rather than /incubator/subversion/
We are hoping to minimize overall disruption to the community with a
move to incubator
On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 14:23, Garrett Rooney
roo...@electricjellyfish.net wrote:
On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 11:29 AM, Jochen Wiedmann
jochen.wiedm...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 3:59 PM, C. Michael Pilato cmpil...@collab.net
wrote:
Subversion client and server that doesn't use a
How about the website ? (I can not find any information about the
project, mentors, committers etc.. )
http://incubator.apache.org/projects/subversion.html
-Deepal
There are two other issues to discuss for the Subversion podling:
* moving the mailing lists directly to @subversion.apache.org
Personally i am ok with #1, but i am not sure if svn switch --relocate too
much of a burden for you guys :)
On 11/10/2009 02:27 PM, Greg Stein wrote:
There are two other issues to discuss for the Subversion podling:
* moving the mailing lists directly to @subversion.apache.org
* placing the
The project status will stay there and be maintained as long as we're
incubating. That's my initial draft to get it into the system. I need
to spend more time with it (but have spent time getting other
discussions/tasks into the pipeline). I'm just about out of that
stuff, so will go update that
LOL
Well... the problem is that an svn mv from /incubator/subversion/ to
/subversion/ introduces an artificial breakage in the history. It is
actually quite disruptive for tracking history (which is very
important to us).
(and yes, because of that history issue, I personally have no problem
On Nov 10, 2009, at 2:27 PM, Greg Stein wrote:
There are two other issues to discuss for the Subversion podling:
* moving the mailing lists directly to @subversion.apache.org
* placing the source code at /subversion/ rather than /incubator/
subversion/
We are hoping to minimize overall
Now that you have explained :) +1 from me.
-- dims
On 11/10/2009 02:43 PM, Greg Stein wrote:
LOL
Well... the problem is that an svn mv from /incubator/subversion/ to
/subversion/ introduces an artificial breakage in the history. It is
actually quite disruptive for tracking history (which is
(i'm really short of time ATM so apologies in advance if i'm very slow
to respond)
On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 6:18 PM, Greg Stein gst...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 13:11, William A. Rowe Jr. wr...@rowe-clan.net
wrote:
Greg Stein wrote:
The IPMC is in charge of its operation. It
Hi,
On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 8:28 PM, Greg Stein gst...@gmail.com wrote:
Unfortunately, some documentation needs to be brought in sync.
See: http://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html#checklist
I'm nitpicking, but even there we only ask the podlings to
demonstrate ability to create
- Original Message
From: Jukka Zitting jukka.zitt...@gmail.com
To: general@incubator.apache.org
Sent: Tue, November 10, 2009 1:25:40 PM
Subject: Re: Insanity. Apache Incubator should be about education (was:
[PROPOSAL][VOTE] Subversion)
Hi,
On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 8:28 PM,
Jukka,
Not so sure... because that dist may contain code that we may not allow.
Greg,
Is there any code in there that is not Apache compatible? i see some in the
contrib section...
http://svn.collab.net/repos/svn/trunk/contrib/client-side/svn-clean
thanks,
dims
On 11/10/2009 04:25 PM, Jukka
On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 16:39, Joe Schaefer joe_schae...@yahoo.com wrote:
- Original Message
From: Jukka Zitting jukka.zitt...@gmail.com
To: general@incubator.apache.org
Sent: Tue, November 10, 2009 1:25:40 PM
Subject: Re: Insanity. Apache Incubator should be about education (was:
Dims: Exactly.
The svn devs have been talking off/on what to do about contrib/ for
nearly a year. Various options: simply toss it and wait for people to
cry and do something to fix it; somehow get it all relicensed (one of
the contributors already said no); etc etc.
Current consensus seems to be
contrib/ has been removed from the packaging scripts, and won't ship with 1.7.
In other news, the box that builds the nightly tarballs is back online, albeit
with a new disk, so it'll take me a day or two to get it back up. When it
does, I'll point people there, and you can see what a typical
On Nov 10, 2009, at 8:29 AM, Jochen Wiedmann wrote:
On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 3:59 PM, C. Michael Pilato cmpil...@collab.net
wrote:
Subversion client and server that doesn't use a DAV layer at all.
The
Subversion community has never released binaries -- ever -- not do
we plan
to.
That
- Original Message
From: Greg Stein gst...@gmail.com
To: general@incubator.apache.org
Sent: Tue, November 10, 2009 1:58:28 PM
Subject: Re: Insanity. Apache Incubator should be about education (was:
[PROPOSAL][VOTE] Subversion)
On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 16:39, Joe Schaefer wrote:
On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 17:35, Joe Schaefer joe_schae...@yahoo.com wrote:
...
Neither 1.6.6 nor the upcoming 1.6.7 are Apache-branded releases. The
input that I received was that that was insufficient -- a branded
release was necessary.
I haven't seen that discussion, but unless you actually
- Original Message
From: Greg Stein gst...@gmail.com
To: general@incubator.apache.org
Sent: Tue, November 10, 2009 2:54:28 PM
Subject: Re: Insanity. Apache Incubator should be about education (was:
[PROPOSAL][VOTE] Subversion)
On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 17:35, Joe Schaefer wrote:
On Nov 10, 2009, at 11:27 AM, Greg Stein wrote:
There are two other issues to discuss for the Subversion podling:
* moving the mailing lists directly to @subversion.apache.org
* placing the source code at /subversion/ rather than /incubator/subversion/
We are hoping to minimize overall
On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 21:09, Ralph Goers ralph.go...@dslextreme.com wrote:
On Nov 10, 2009, at 11:27 AM, Greg Stein wrote:
There are two other issues to discuss for the Subversion podling:
* moving the mailing lists directly to @subversion.apache.org
* placing the source code at
On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 22:17, Greg Stein gst...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 21:09, Ralph Goers ralph.go...@dslextreme.com wrote:
...
I am fine with doing everything as if this was a TLP with the two exceptions
that 1) the main page should say it is still in incubation 2) it is
On Nov 10, 2009, at 7:17 PM, Greg Stein wrote:
On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 21:09, Ralph Goers ralph.go...@dslextreme.com wrote:
On Nov 10, 2009, at 11:27 AM, Greg Stein wrote:
There are two other issues to discuss for the Subversion podling:
* moving the mailing lists directly to
On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 22:41, Ralph Goers ralph.go...@dslextreme.com wrote:
On Nov 10, 2009, at 7:17 PM, Greg Stein wrote:
On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 21:09, Ralph Goers ralph.go...@dslextreme.com
wrote:
On Nov 10, 2009, at 11:27 AM, Greg Stein wrote:
There are two other issues to discuss
On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 12:29 AM, Jochen Wiedmann
jochen.wiedm...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 3:59 PM, C. Michael Pilato cmpil...@collab.net
wrote:
Subversion client and server that doesn't use a DAV layer at all. The
Subversion community has never released binaries -- ever --
What happen to this release?
The links in this post are no longer valid, and the Download page
http://incubator.apache.org/wink/downloads.html shows no sign of a
1.0-incubating release...
Cheers
Niclas
On Thu, Nov 5, 2009 at 11:53 PM, Nicholas Gallardo
nickgalla...@yahoo.com wrote:
The Wink
On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 12:56 AM, Jukka Zitting jukka.zitt...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 5:55 PM, Greg Stein gst...@gmail.com wrote:
My point above was the Board, at least in the past(*), has *not* been
happy about the average duration.
The way I see it, there are three main
Hi,
On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 11:53 PM, Davanum Srinivas dava...@gmail.com wrote:
Jukka,
Not so sure... because that dist may contain code that we may not allow.
Personally I'd be happy with a plan from the Subversion team that
shows how they're going to address any issues that may be raised in
On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 6:08 AM, Niclas Hedhman nic...@hedhman.org wrote:
On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 12:56 AM, Jukka Zitting jukka.zitt...@gmail.com
wrote:
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I personally think that the exit criteria are good as they are (in
hindsight, Abdera is a good example of a project that graduated
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