Hi there,I recently discovered Puppet[1], From their web site: "Puppet is an open-source next-generation server automation tool. It is
composed of a declarative language for expressing system configuration, a
client and server for distributing it, and a library
for realizing the
configur
On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 10:43:18PM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote:
> Puppet seems to me a good product for a large site with 1000 hosts.
> Not so much for ~20 or so.
I find that for a few machines, puppet is overkill. For a lot of
machines, puppet can become unmanageable - with puppet mast
On 17/09/2014 07:46, Hans de Graaff wrote:
> On Tue, 16 Sep 2014 22:43:18 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote:
>
>> Puppet seems to me a good product for a large site with 1000 hosts.
>> Not so much for ~20 or so. Plus puppet's language and configs get large
>> and hard to kee
On Tue, 16 Sep 2014 22:43:18 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote:
> Puppet seems to me a good product for a large site with 1000 hosts.
> Not so much for ~20 or so. Plus puppet's language and configs get large
> and hard to keep track of - lots and lots of directory trees with many
>
On 17/09/2014 11:34, J. Roeleveld wrote:
>
> On Wednesday, September 17, 2014 12:19:37 PM Eray Aslan wrote:
>> On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 10:43:18PM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote:
>>> Puppet seems to me a good product for a large site with 1000 hosts.
>>> Not so much fo
We use bcfg2, and all I can say is to stay away. XML abuse runs rampant
in bcfg2. From what I've heard from other professional sysadmins, Puppet
is the favorite, but that's mostly conjecture.
Alec
On 09/16/2014 04:43 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote:
> Anyone here used ansible and at least
Anyone here used ansible and at least one of puppet/chef?
What are your thoughts?
I've made several attempts over the years to get puppet going but never
really got it off the ground. Chef I stay away from (likely due to the
first demo of it I saw and how badly that went....)
Puppet seems
On 17/09/2014 03:30, Alec Ten Harmsel wrote:
> We use bcfg2, and all I can say is to stay away. XML abuse runs rampant
> in bcfg2. From what I've heard from other professional sysadmins, Puppet
> is the favorite, but that's mostly conjecture.
XML. Ugh. OSSEC works like tha
On Wednesday, September 17, 2014 12:19:37 PM Eray Aslan wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 10:43:18PM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote:
> > Puppet seems to me a good product for a large site with 1000 hosts.
> > Not so much for ~20 or so.
>
> I find that for a few machines, puppe
ome sort of server/client arrangement with
> >>> the only Gentoo install being on the server could be
> >>> appropriate.
> >>>
> >>> - Grant
> >>>
> >>You may want to look at something like a config management
> >
>
m thinking some sort of server/client arrangement with
the only Gentoo install being on the server could be
appropriate.
- Grant
You may want to look at something like a config management
system.
I'm using Puppet these days, but Gentoo support isn't spectacular.
It would be
On 27/09/2013 06:33, Johann Schmitz wrote:
> Hi Alan,
>
> On 26.09.2013 22:42, Alan McKinnon wrote:
>> You will break things horribly and will curse the day you tried.
>> Basically, puppet and portage will get in each other's way and clobber
>> each other. Puppet h
On Tuesday, September 16, 2014 10:43:18 PM Alan McKinnon wrote:
> Anyone here used ansible and at least one of puppet/chef?
>
> What are your thoughts?
>
> I've made several attempts over the years to get puppet going but never
> really got it off the ground. Chef I sta
On 17/09/2014 09:34, J. Roeleveld wrote:
>
> On Tuesday, September 16, 2014 10:43:18 PM Alan McKinnon wrote:
>> Anyone here used ansible and at least one of puppet/chef?
>>
>> What are your thoughts?
>>
>> I've made several attempts over the years to ge
Hi Alan,
On 26.09.2013 22:42, Alan McKinnon wrote:
> You will break things horribly and will curse the day you tried.
> Basically, puppet and portage will get in each other's way and clobber
> each other. Puppet has no concept of USE flags worth a damn, cannot
> determine i
On Sun, 29 Jun 2014 08:55:41 +0200, J. Roeleveld wrote:
> > or...
> > puppet and it's kin
>
> Last time I looked at puppet, it seemed too complex for what I need.
> I will recheck it again.
What about something like monit?
--
Neil Bothwick
Bug: (n.) any program
On 2014-09-16 22:43, Alan McKinnon wrote:
Anyone here used ansible and at least one of puppet/chef?
What are your thoughts?
I've made several attempts over the years to get puppet going but never
really got it off the ground. Chef I stay away from (likely due to the
first demo of it I sa
nts and push from
there.
I'd recommend if you have a decent-ish desktop lying around, you press
that into service as your master build host. yeah, it takes 10% longer
to build stuff, but so what? Do it overnight.
> Maybe puppet could help with that? It would almost be
> like my own
On 17/09/2014 09:07, Tomas Mozes wrote:
> On 2014-09-16 22:43, Alan McKinnon wrote:
>> Anyone here used ansible and at least one of puppet/chef?
>>
>> What are your thoughts?
>>
>> I've made several attempts over the years to get puppet going but never
>&g
ch of new workstations
> > and I'm thinking some sort of server/client arrangement with
> > the only Gentoo install being on the server could be
> > appropriate.
> >
> > - Grant
>
> You may want to look at something like a config management
system.
> I&#
On Wednesday, September 17, 2014 10:12:52 AM Alan McKinnon wrote:
> On 17/09/2014 09:34, J. Roeleveld wrote:
> > On Tuesday, September 16, 2014 10:43:18 PM Alan McKinnon wrote:
> >> Anyone here used ansible and at least one of puppet/chef?
> >>
> >> What are
On Sunday, June 29, 2014 09:35:33 AM Neil Bothwick wrote:
> On Sun, 29 Jun 2014 08:55:41 +0200, J. Roeleveld wrote:
> > > or...
> > > puppet and it's kin
> >
> > Last time I looked at puppet, it seemed too complex for what I need.
> > I will recheck it
could be appropriate.
- Grant
You may want to look at something like a config management system. I'm
using Puppet these days, but Gentoo support isn't spectacular. It would
be a bit complex to have Puppet install the packages with the correct
USE flags. However you could use Puppet to ma
nage these differences?
>>
>> I'm sure there are numerous files in /etc/ with small niggling
>> differences, you will find these as you go along.
>>
>> In a Linux world, these files actually do not subject themselves to
>> centralization very well, they really do
#x27;t know anything about SCIRE but you may want to take a look at puppet:
http://reductivelabs.com/projects/puppet/index.html
There are ebuilds available from bugs.gentoo.org.
Cheers,
Duane.
--
"I never could learn to drink that blood and call it wine" - Bob Dylan
--
gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
e me a general idea of how my workflow might be with a
> solution like that?
It's not really possible to give a cut and dried answer to that, as all
three solutions (CFEngine, Puppet, Chef) try hard to integrate
themselves into your needs rather than get you to integrate into a rigid
code
ions ship new configuration.
>
> Thanks for that posting, it reminds me of some bigger issue I wanted to
> discuss here for quite a while now.
>
> Over the years I am now responsible for dozens of servers and VMs
> running gentoo linux ... and I wonder how to efficiently keep t
ble for dozens of servers and VMs
>> running gentoo linux ... and I wonder how to efficiently keep track of them.
>>
>> I learned my first steps with puppet and use it in a basic setup for my
>> own machines in my LAN. It seems to work better for many identical
>> serve
ll do some wmi stuff, IIRC. I've
been using a combination of Mysql backed Puppet with stored resources
for system management. Then push Nagios configs to the Nagios server via
tags in Puppet. Still working to get it right, but it's about there.
Next step is to get collectd working
Alec Ten Harmsel alectenharmsel.com> writes:
> We use bcfg2, and all I can say is to stay away. XML abuse runs rampant
> in bcfg2. From what I've heard from other professional sysadmins, Puppet
> is the favorite, but that's mostly conjecture.
Hi Alec!
> > Anyone her
Am 08.01.2015 um 00:02 schrieb Alan McKinnon:
> In my opinion, ansible almost always beats puppet.
>
> Puppet is a) complex b) built to be able to deal with vast enterprise
> setups and c) has a definition language I never could wrap my brains
> around. It always felt to me like p
Hello,
On Thu, 18 Aug 2016, james wrote:
>other tools:: 'lshw'
or sys-apps/hwinfo
HTH,
-dnh
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ue I wanted to
discuss here for quite a while now.
Over the years I am now responsible for dozens of servers and VMs
running gentoo linux ... and I wonder how to efficiently keep track of them.
I learned my first steps with puppet and use it in a basic setup for my
own machines in my LAN. It seems to
t need updating - only you know
that.
I think you want Tower or AWX or even rundeck, those are
scheduling/controlling/orchestration wrappers that can fire off ansible
jobs.
As a last resort you can always add a cron to run an overall site.yml
play every X hours or so
Are you coming from a pupp
Hi,
I've been working on my own replacement for Bcfg2 - bossman[1] - over
the past few months, and it's finally ready to be released in the wild.
I would be honored if anyone on this list who's thinking of trying
puppet, chef, ansible, bcfg2, etc. would try out bossman instead.
On 2014-09-17 14:07, Alan McKinnon wrote:
Nagios btw has the same problem hence why I'm switching to Icinga 2
which fixes Nagios's config language once and for all.
Or you can use hostgroups/templates and have all your configuration in
files and in git. Depends what you like more.
d be possible to use git-branches for each server?
> Does anyone of you already use something like that?
> What would be a proper and clever way to do that?
>
> Yes, I know, there is puppet and stuff ... but as far as I see this is
> overkill for my needs.
>
> I'd like to
rovement over my 'for $h in
> $HOSTS; do ssh $h "yum install foo"; done' approach.
You could have a look at app-admin/puppet [1][2] which supposedly takes
car of these things.
[...]
> Now I am thinking about a Gentoo installation instead.
>
> Pros:
> - Contin
On 2015-01-26 16:30, Alec Ten Harmsel wrote:
Hi,
I've been working on my own replacement for Bcfg2 - bossman[1] - over
the past few months, and it's finally ready to be released in the wild.
I would be honored if anyone on this list who's thinking of trying
puppet, chef, ansi
On 27/01/2015 10:49, Tomas Mozes wrote:
> I haven't tested it yet, however I like the minimalistic syntax.
>
> As an ansible user - do you plan to allow using default values for
> modules and/or variables?
+1 for that.
I'm also a happy ansible user with zero plans to change, but I can't
imagine
emerge with binary packages to
install updates automatically. What do you think? Will it work? Is it
possible to rollback an update if something goes wrong?
We're working on womething similar using catalyst [1] to create a custom
livecd, quickstart [2] to automate installation of a basic working syste
ts, and start experimenting in that
> sandbox. You'll quickly get a feel for how it all hangs together (it's
> hard to describe in text how puppet gets the job done, so much easier to
> do it for real and watch the results)
Puppet seems like overkill for what I need. I th
site and download
>>> some of the test appliances they have there and run them in vm software.
>>> Set up a server and a few clients, and start experimenting in that
>>> sandbox. You'll quickly get a feel for how it all hangs together (it's
>>> hard t
Am 27.07.2014 18:25, schrieb Stefan G. Weichinger:
> Only last week I re-attacked this topic as I start using puppet here to
> manage my systems ... and one part of this might be sharing /usr/portage
> via NFSv4. One client host mounts it without a problem, the thinkpads
> don'
.
As the others have pointed out it's coming, but in the short term you
can always gem install directly and continue to use the init scripts
that shipped with the portage package. I do the same on Ubuntu w/ Puppet.
kashani
On Fri, Dec 04, 2015 at 01:55:30PM +0200, gevisz wrote:
>
> So, my main question is How can I ensure that the already
> edited /usr/share/X11/xkb/symbols/ru file will not be overwritten
> during the next system update. Thabk you.
>
Use a configuration management tool like puppet
goes in
>> /var/spool/cron, not /etc/crontab. Two benefits:
>>
>> - syntax checking when you save and quit
>> - if you let portage, package managers, chef, puppet or whatever manage
>> your global cronjobs in /etc/portage, then there's no danger that system
>>
appliances they have there and run them in vm software.
>> Set up a server and a few clients, and start experimenting in that
>> sandbox. You'll quickly get a feel for how it all hangs together (it's
>> hard to describe in text how puppet gets the job done, so much easier
about right.
>>>
>>>> To get a feel for how it works, visit puppet's web site and download
>>>> some of the test appliances they have there and run them in vm software.
>>>> Set up a server and a few clients, and start experimenting in that
>>>&g
Am 24.06.2010 05:04, schrieb kashani:
> That's works. :-) I was doing a fair amount of rpm building, svn to
> git with large trees, kickstart, Mysql, and Puppet work at a job a few
> months ago which was hitting the host fairly hard. Between the above and
> Outlook getting
network boot. you
could even boot them from thumb drives or cds.
of course, it would be a good bit of work to configure initially,
and might not go whithout a hitch.
For configuration, you may want to look at something like puppet to manage
that. Your build machine would the puppetmaster and
On 2014-09-17 10:08, Alan McKinnon wrote:
That's almost exactly the same setup I have in mind.
How complex do the playbooks get in real-life?
The common role has about 70 tasks. It does almost everything covered in
the handbook plus installs and configures additional stuff like postfix,
nrpe,
#x27;s the 'evdev' module that your X doesn't find.
-dnh
--
"I'm nobody's puppet!"-- Rygel XIV
ipped with the portage package. I do the same on Ubuntu w/ Puppet.
kashani
On 01/27/2015 11:33 AM, Alan McKinnon wrote:
> On 27/01/2015 10:49, Tomas Mozes wrote:
>> I haven't tested it yet, however I like the minimalistic syntax.
>>
>> As an ansible user - do you plan to allow using default values for
>> modules and/or variables?
>
> +1 for that.
>
> I'm also a happy ans
On 17/09/2014 14:46, Tomas Mozes wrote:
> On 2014-09-17 10:08, Alan McKinnon wrote:
>
>> That's almost exactly the same setup I have in mind.
>>
>> How complex do the playbooks get in real-life?
>
> The common role has about 70 tasks. It does almost everything covered in
> the handbook plus insta
>>
>> I'm not sure if its quite what you have in mind, and it comes with a
>bit of a steep learning curve, but cfengine might fit the bill.
>>
>> http://cfengine.com
>
>Hi Bruce,
>
>Thanks for the reply.
>
>I only worked with cfengine once, brie
four (or at least lynx, links
and w3m), as all have shortcomings/quirks and advantages (e.g. when
dumping html as text results vary and with what options you can "tune"
the result).
HTH,
-dnh
--
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On 2015-11-29 06:57, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote:
Hi,
two "identical" (better read: expected to be identical... ;)
Just a quick suggestion - you should use ansible or puppet to keep them
in sync.
Arietta
G25 tiny embedded systems have a Gentoo installed each. Both are
updated
Alec Ten Harmsel alectenharmsel.com> writes:
> I'm sorry to spam gentoo-user, but I'm not sure who else would be
> interested in something like this. Also, feel free to email me with bugs
> in the code or documentation, or open something in GitHub's issue tracker.
One man's spam generates map
too.
It appears that some are using OpenStack and Ceph with
Git, Ansible, Puppet, Chef, StackStorm for similar goals
of a total management system for all the microprocessors and sensors in
their theater of responsible.
some are rooting their cell phones, to have a hand held device to
compli
money (around 20 dollars per paper published
in WORLDCOMP’s proceedings) to his puppet (Mr. Ashu Solo or A.M.G. Solo)
who publicizes WORLDCOMP and also defends it at various forums, using
fake/anonymous names. The puppet uses fake names and defames other conferences
to divert traffic to WORLDCOMP
as doing a fair amount of rpm building, svn to git
with large trees, kickstart, Mysql, and Puppet work at a job a few
months ago which was hitting the host fairly hard. Between the above and
Outlook getting an extra drive to isolate the host OS from the VMs was a
requirement. Much smoother after that.
kashani
Alec Ten Harmsel [15-11-29 13:16]:
>
>
> On 2015-11-29 06:57, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote:
> >Hi,
> >
> >two "identical" (better read: expected to be identical... ;)
>
> Just a quick suggestion - you should use ansible or puppet to keep them
> in sy
I re-attacked this topic as I start using puppet here to
manage my systems ... and one part of this might be sharing /usr/portage
via NFSv4. One client host mounts it without a problem, the thinkpads
don't do so ... just another example ;-)
Additional in my context: using systemd ... so the
that lets you install your own OS?
>
> BTW since Java is a VM I'm surprised there is no service that lets you just
> upload a Java app and run it remotely on the service without any OS
> management. Am I missing anything there?
>
> - Grant
>
linode.com and kimsufi.com
r master build host. yeah, it takes 10% longer
> to build stuff, but so what? Do it overnight.
Well, my goal is to minimize the number of different systems I
maintain. Hopefully just one type of laptop and a server.
>> Maybe puppet could help with that? It would almost be
>> like m
me of the test appliances they have there and run them in vm software.
>> Set up a server and a few clients, and start experimenting in that
>> sandbox. You'll quickly get a feel for how it all hangs together (it's
>> hard to describe in text how puppet gets the job do
y candidates. I'm not*sure* a customized distribution is appropriate.
I think you should take a look at:http://www.reductivelabs.com/projects/puppet/index.htmlhttp://www.cfengine.org/
Best regardsJose
>> > Puppet seems like overkill for what I need. I think all I really need
>> > is something to manage config file differences and user accounts. At
>> > this point I'm thinking I shouldn't push packages themselves, but
>> > portage config files an
Alec Ten Harmsel alectenharmsel.com> writes:
> Assuming that disks are formatted, a stage3 has been freshly extracted,
> bossman is installed, and the role/config files are on a mounted
> filesystem, it should be similar to the role below:
I think the list needs to be expanded, generically firs
that?
Yes, I know, there is puppet and stuff ... but as far as I see this is
overkill for my needs.
I'd like to maintain some good and basic /etc, maybe plus
/var/lib/portage/world and /root/.alias (etc etc ..) to be able to
deploy a good and nice standardized gentoo server. Then adjust conf
t;>> To get a feel for how it works, visit puppet's web site and download
>>> some of the test appliances they have there and run them in vm
>software.
>>> Set up a server and a few clients, and start experimenting in that
>>> sandbox. You'll quickly
l build host and my laptop is just
another client. Not all that important really, the build host is just an
address from the client's point of view
>
>> I'd recommend if you have a decent-ish desktop lying around, you press
>> that into service as your master build hos
agine everything else being totally
>> identical.
>>
>> What could I use to manage these differences?
>
> I'm sure there are numerous files in /etc/ with small niggling
> differences, you will find these as you go along.
>
> In a Linux world, these files actuall
distribtuion would be based on an
existing
one, with tweaks that deal with where updates come from, and what
packages
are availble, etc. Gentoo or Debian are the two likely
candidates. I'm not
*sure* a customized distribution is appropriate.
I think you should take a lo
On Mon, Sep 30, 2013 at 09:31:18PM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote:
> >> (or big chunks of it) over to your other workstations.
> >
> > Puppet seems like overkill for what I need. I think all I really need
> > is something to manage config file differences and user accou
ice without any OS
> > management. Am I missing anything there?
> >
> > - Grant
>
> linode.com and kimsufi.com lets you install gentoo. There might be many
> more.
Yes, plenty.
It depends where you need them to be located.
> You might want to look into something li
recommend that when
a sysadmin adds a root cronjob, use crontab -e so it goes in
/var/spool/cron, not /etc/crontab. Two benefits:
- syntax checking when you save and quit
- if you let portage, package managers, chef, puppet or whatever manage
your global cronjobs in /etc/portage, then there's
t
they mean. They need a picture that shows what will happen when and what
the environment looks like.
So basically I need something to replace bash and cron the same way
puppet replaces scp and for loops
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alan.mckin...@gmail.com
e mail server for
> maintenance and my watchdogservice has just restarted it due to a
> NAK>ACK event"
That is the problem I have with these watchdog services. During boot, I want
it to wait. But it needs to understand not to start a service when I stopped
it during runtime.
Otherwi
g to have to
find some way to gain better control over the local Portage tree.
What I really ought to be doing is looking at Portage way closer than I
do as an everyday user. I just want to be absolutely sure that I don't
break anything on a server when I update. But since I have recently
l
to do, no more and no less[1]
the command is
"emerge world"
not
"emerge the-bits-of-world-you-think-you-can-deal-with"
If portage cannot emerge world and fully obey what root told it to do,
then portage correctly refuses to continue. It could not possibly be
any other wa
t appropriate.
Thirdly, save your configuration files so you do not need to reread
the documentation each time you install a system. Look at Gentoo stage
4 tarballs and programs like Ansible or Puppet. You might also
consider running Debian. Gentoo is nice, but not necessary or even
suitable for every use case.
Cheers,
R0b0t1
5am code-publish cycle and
>> month-end finance runs - this is a DevOps environment.
>
> I'm not sure if its quite what you have in mind, and it comes with a bit of a
> steep learning curve, but cfengine might fit the bill.
>
> http://cfengine.com
Hi Bruce,
Thanks fo
On 01/27/2015 03:49 AM, Tomas Mozes wrote:
>
> I haven't tested it yet, however I like the minimalistic syntax.
Thanks. Testing is kind of a high barrier; it took me hours to write a
role for jenkins.
>
> As an ansible user - do you plan to allow using default values for
> modules and/or variabl
On 27/01/2015 19:49, Alec Ten Harmsel wrote:
>
> On 01/27/2015 11:33 AM, Alan McKinnon wrote:
>> On 27/01/2015 10:49, Tomas Mozes wrote:
>>> I haven't tested it yet, however I like the minimalistic syntax.
>>>
>>> As an ansible user - do you plan to allow using default values for
>>> modules and/o
which contains a python 2 script. And the GUI gives no clue to that cause of
failure.
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few months ago), I select one of the files, and it lets me view a diff in
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can either merge the two files right in vim, or elect to keep the new or old
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Please do no
on one
> > computer.
>
> If you have a crazy number of machines to back up, I could see
> sacrificing some security for convenience. Still I would think you
> could use something like puppet to have the best of both worlds. I
> have 5 machines and I think I can get it down to
rivers/xf86-video-ivtv ~x86
sys-power/powertop ~x86
app-admin/puppet~x86
dev-ruby/facter ~x86
media-tv/mythtv ~x86
Portage is 2.1.4.4 which my other computers are running. This was my
local rsync mirror that sync'd every two days and
ns to delete out of date snapshots.
And, more as a nitpick than anything else, I always recommend that when
a sysadmin adds a root cronjob, use crontab -e so it goes in
/var/spool/cron, not /etc/crontab. Two benefits:
- syntax checking when you save and quit
- if you let portage, package managers, chef, puppet or whatever manage
your global cronjobs in /etc/portage, then there's no danger that system
will trash the stuff that you added there manually.
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gt; > computer.
>>
>> If you have a crazy number of machines to back up, I could see
>> sacrificing some security for convenience. Still I would think you
>> could use something like puppet to have the best of both worlds. I
>> have 5 machines and I think I can get it down to
ious efforts to set up
>NFSv4 for sharing stuff in my LAN also lead to unstable behavior and
>frustration.
>
>Only last week I re-attacked this topic as I start using puppet here to
>manage my systems ... and one part of this might be sharing
>/usr/portage
>via NFSv4. One client hos
think-you-can-deal-with"
>
> If portage cannot emerge world and fully obey what root told it to do,
> then portage correctly refuses to continue. It could not possibly be
> any other way, as eg all automated build tools (puppet, chef and
> friends, even flameeyes's sandbox)
onfiguration. If you want to change the backup plan fr all
> machines, you make one change on one computer.
If you have a crazy number of machines to back up, I could see
sacrificing some security for convenience. Still I would think you
could use something like puppet to have the best of both wo
On 01/27/2015 10:34 AM, James wrote:
> Alec Ten Harmsel alectenharmsel.com> writes:
>
>
>
>> I'm sorry to spam gentoo-user, but I'm not sure who else would be
>> interested in something like this. Also, feel free to email me with bugs
>> in the code or documentation, or open something in GitHub's
you from "i've just stopped the mail server for
maintenance and my watchdogservice has just restarted it due to a
NAK>ACK event"
or...
you could have a central master machine which has it's own services,
watchdog and monitor... i.e. /etc/init.d/thepostfixserver start /
depends on thednsserver which just runs
# ssh postfixserver '/etc/init.d/postfix start'
or...
puppet and it's kin
sands of thin clients
> distributed across hundreds of VM servers, and there is no noticeable latency
> (unless a particular VM MSWindows server plays up).
I'm sure I wouldn't. I only mentioned the increased bandwidth of
multiseat vs. thin-clients as a technicality.
> I underst
m development to production without a lot of manual
configuration of individual hosts. I work for a big company and
they're still doing lots of manual installation scripts that get
signed and dated like it is still the 80s. It isn't Walmart-type work
primarily because it is so error-prone
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