Re: [gentoo-user] Has mysql become compulsory - Part 2
2009/11/11 Volker Armin Hemmann volkerar...@googlemail.com: On Mittwoch 11 November 2009, Walter Dnes wrote: Programmers all seem to have gaming rigs. It's been a struggle to keep hal and dbus off my machines. And I was unhappy when Firefox put SQLite in as a hard dependancy. I think you'll simply have to give up on KDE and its applications. hal and dbus have as much as zero performance impact. And dbus also replaces dcop. So there there is a system less running. mysql embedded is also a very low load. In an ideal world we would have a light version and a heavy/full featured version of everything. However, in reality people develop what they need/fancy and hardware technology advances - so we have to find workarounds and make compromises. KDE used to be more light-footed than Gnome, so I invariably used most of its applications on my ancient hardware. It seems that with KDE4 this is becoming increasingly less so. I've been running this PIII laptop for the last 11 years (wow!!! doesn't time fly) and it has become increasingly sluggish because most packages are designed for modern machines which are of course more powerful. It is only reasonable that building some of today's apps for a Pentium 1 or Pentium 2 is not going to work particularly well ... so I'll be breaking the piggy bank and buying something more up to date any day now. That should hopefully keep the noise down. -- Regards, Mick
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On Tuesday 10 November 2009 07:44:14 Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: this has been discussed to death. Why don't you use google? amarok has a hard dependency on mysql. There is nothing you can do about it with useflags. The amarok devs have explained that several times. (sqlite too slow with big collections, no way to share collections, too much work to support more than one db etc pp). Thanks Volker, I remember it being discussed, but didn't recall that mysql is a must - I thought that the USE flags could still offer a way out. -- Regards, Mick signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
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On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 08:10:03 +, Mick wrote: Thanks Volker, I remember it being discussed, but didn't recall that mysql is a must - I thought that the USE flags could still offer a way out. Amarok 2 does not have a mysql USE flag. -- Neil Bothwick What's this script doing? unzip ; touch ; finger ; mount ; gasp ; yes ; umount ; sleep signature.asc Description: PGP signature
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On Tuesday 10 November 2009 10:57:51 Neil Bothwick wrote: On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 08:10:03 +, Mick wrote: Thanks Volker, I remember it being discussed, but didn't recall that mysql is a must - I thought that the USE flags could still offer a way out. Amarok 2 does not have a mysql USE flag. Don't use Amarok. Especially not 2.2.0 since it doesn't appear to be working for many people - mysql problems :-) music players are a dime a dozen, out of the 100s of choices out there, there must be one other than amarok that suits your needs -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
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Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: this has been discussed to death. Why don't you use google? amarok has a hard dependency on mysql. There is nothing you can do about it with useflags. The amarok devs have explained that several times. (sqlite too slow with big collections, no way to share collections, too much work to support more than one db etc pp). Quick question that is related. I currently have sqlite installed, with USE flags set as sqlite and -mysql. If I change the USE flags to the opposite, mysql and -sqlite, and run emerge -uvNDa world, would that fix all the stuff that needs fixing? Sine I am having issues with KDE 4, I may as well bite the bullet here. According to equery there are quite a few things that depend on sqlite. r...@smoker / # equery depends sqlite [ Searching for packages depending on sqlite... ] app-pda/libopensync-0.22 (=dev-db/sqlite-3) app-portage/eix-0.17.0 (sqlite? =dev-db/sqlite-3) dev-lang/python-2.6.2-r1 (!build sqlite? =dev-db/sqlite-3) dev-lang/python-3.1.1-r1 (!build sqlite? =dev-db/sqlite-3) dev-libs/apr-util-1.3.9 (sqlite? dev-db/sqlite:0) (sqlite3? dev-db/sqlite:3) dev-libs/cyrus-sasl-2.1.23-r1 (sqlite? dev-db/sqlite) dev-libs/nspr-4.8 (=dev-db/sqlite-3.5) dev-libs/nss-3.12.3-r1 (=dev-db/sqlite-3.5) dev-libs/redland-1.0.9-r1 (sqlite? =dev-db/sqlite-3*) dev-util/subversion-1.6.5 (=dev-db/sqlite-3.4[threadsafe]) kde-base/kget-4.3.3 (sqlite? dev-db/sqlite:3) kde-base/kopete-4.3.3 (statistics? dev-db/sqlite:3) media-libs/libsndfile-1.0.20 (sqlite? =dev-db/sqlite-3.2) net-im/pidgin-2.6.3 (prediction? =dev-db/sqlite-3*) net-libs/webkit-gtk-1.1.10 (=dev-db/sqlite-3) x11-libs/qt-sql-4.5.3 (sqlite? dev-db/sqlite:3) r...@smoker / # Thanks. Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] Has mysql become compulsory - Part 2
On Dienstag 10 November 2009, Alan McKinnon wrote: On Tuesday 10 November 2009 10:57:51 Neil Bothwick wrote: On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 08:10:03 +, Mick wrote: Thanks Volker, I remember it being discussed, but didn't recall that mysql is a must - I thought that the USE flags could still offer a way out. Amarok 2 does not have a mysql USE flag. Don't use Amarok. Especially not 2.2.0 since it doesn't appear to be working for many people - mysql problems :-) music players are a dime a dozen, out of the 100s of choices out there, there must be one other than amarok that suits your needs amarok works great here.
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On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 11:26:33 +0100, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: amarok works great here. Everything works great somewhere, even Windows :P -- Neil Bothwick Picard: 'What do the sensors say Mr Data?' Data: 'They tell us that we can't say F*ck Sir. Picard: 'I meant the ship's sensors Mr Data' signature.asc Description: PGP signature
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On Dienstag 10 November 2009, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 11:26:33 +0100, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: amarok works great here. Everything works great somewhere, even Windows :P seroiously, what does not work great with amarok? it compiles, it installes, it scans my collection, it plays my stuff. just because you can not use emerge does not mean that others share your handicap :P
Re: [gentoo-user] Has mysql become compulsory - Part 2
On Tuesday 10 November 2009 13:34:08 Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: On Dienstag 10 November 2009, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 11:26:33 +0100, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: amarok works great here. Everything works great somewhere, even Windows :P seroiously, what does not work great with amarok? it compiles, it installes, it scans my collection, it plays my stuff. just because you can not use emerge does not mean that others share your handicap :P amarok consistently crashes here: amarok(12157)/kio (Slave) KIO::Slave::createSlave: createSlave trash for KUrl(trash:/) amarok(12157)/kio (KIOConnection) KIO::ConnectionServer::listenForRemote: Listening on local:/home/alan/.kde4/socket-nazgul/amarokx12157.slave-socket amarok(12157)/kio (Slave) KIO::Slave::createSlave: createSlave file for KUrl(file:///home/alan/downloads/music) amarok(12157)/kio (KIOConnection) KIO::ConnectionServer::listenForRemote: Listening on local:/home/alan/.kde4/socket-nazgul/amarokN12157.slave-socket amarok(12157)/kio (KIOConnection) KIO::ConnectionServer::listenForRemote: Listening on local:/home/alan/.kde4/socket-nazgul/amarokm12157.slave-socket amarok(12157)/kio (Slave) KIO::Slave::createSlave: createSlave file for KUrl(file:///usr/share/apps/amarok/images//info_frontpage_logo.png) amarok(12157)/kio (KIOConnection) KIO::ConnectionServer::listenForRemote: Listening on local:/home/alan/.kde4/socket-nazgul/amarokz12157.slave-socket amarok(12157)/kdecore (K*TimeZone*) KSystemTimeZonesPrivate::instance: instance(): ... initialised amarok(12157)/kdecore (K*TimeZone*) KSystemTimeZonesPrivate::readConfig: readConfig(): local zone= Africa/Johannesburg amarok(12157)/kdecore (K*TimeZone*) KSystemTimeZonesPrivate::readZoneTab: readZoneTab( /usr/share/zoneinfo/zone.tab ) amarok(12157)/kio (KDirListerCache) KDirListerCache::slotResult: finished listing KUrl(file:///home/alan/downloads/music) amarok(12157)/kio (AccessManager) KDEPrivate::AccessManagerReply::jobDone: 0 - QNetworkReply::NoError amarok(12157)/kio (KIOConnection) KIO::SocketConnectionBackend::socketReadyRead: KIO::SocketConnectionBackend(0x2f0cfd0) Jumbo packet of 308680 bytes amarok(12157)/kio (KIOConnection) KIO::SocketConnectionBackend::socketReadyRead: KIO::SocketConnectionBackend(0x2f0cfd0) Jumbo packet of 308680 bytes amarok(12157)/kio (KIOConnection) KIO::SocketConnectionBackend::socketReadyRead: KIO::SocketConnectionBackend(0x2f0cfd0) Jumbo packet of 308680 bytes amarok(12157)/kio (KDirListerCache) KDirListerCache::slotResult: finished listing KUrl(trash:/) *** glibc detected *** amarok: free(): invalid pointer: 0x03295080 *** -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
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On Tuesday 10 November 2009 13.14.13 Alan McKinnon wrote: [...] *** glibc detected *** amarok: free(): invalid pointer: 0x03295080 *** This is a highly debated issue, glibc has new checks for various things and it seems like some think the checks are to strict or even wrong while others think that the checks are ok and the applications are wrong. I suffer from the same issue but with KDevelop and Qt-Creator. Time will tell what side is right and what side is wrong I guess... /Naga
Re: [gentoo-user] Has mysql become compulsory - Part 2
Volker Armin Hemmann writes: On Dienstag 10 November 2009, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 11:26:33 +0100, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: amarok works great here. Everything works great somewhere, even Windows :P seroiously, what does not work great with amarok? it compiles, it installes, it scans my collection, it plays my stuff. The tag editor trashed my .ogg files. Might also be an effect of some vorbis tools, it does not happen any more. The collection get screwed up, tracks show up with wrong artist. The scanning process takes incredibly long. When I move an album folder into another location, it takes quite a while for amarok to re-scan it. And it does not respond during that time. System load gehts rather high, even dolphin is slow then. I have all my audio files in /data/mp3, with many sub-directories I included in the collection paths, but amarok seems to scan the whole /data/mp3 directory, with folders that are not marked to scan. When I select a single folder somewhere else and let amarok rescan the collection, all the other stuff is still in the collection. At least sometimes, I just did that again and now it seems to work. I had a few crashes also, when moving audio folders. But I still like it. It looks really nice, I like features like the wikipedia information or song texts. The bugs will be solved eventually, missing features like transkode integration or visualization will probably come. I am patient. Amarok really rocks. Wonko
Re: [gentoo-user] Has mysql become compulsory - Part 2
On Tuesday 10 November 2009 14:27:26 Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: On Dienstag 10 November 2009, you wrote: On Tuesday 10 November 2009 13:34:08 Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: On Dienstag 10 November 2009, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 11:26:33 +0100, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: amarok works great here. Everything works great somewhere, even Windows :P seroiously, what does not work great with amarok? it compiles, it installes, it scans my collection, it plays my stuff. just because you can not use emerge does not mean that others share your handicap :P amarok consistently crashes here: amarok(12157)/kio (Slave) KIO::Slave::createSlave: createSlave trash for KUrl(trash:/) amarok(12157)/kio (KIOConnection) KIO::ConnectionServer::listenForRemote: Listening on local:/home/alan/.kde4/socket-nazgul/amarokx12157.slave-socket amarok(12157)/kio (Slave) KIO::Slave::createSlave: createSlave file for KUrl(file:///home/alan/downloads/music) amarok(12157)/kio (KIOConnection) KIO::ConnectionServer::listenForRemote: Listening on local:/home/alan/.kde4/socket-nazgul/amarokN12157.slave-socket amarok(12157)/kio (KIOConnection) KIO::ConnectionServer::listenForRemote: Listening on local:/home/alan/.kde4/socket-nazgul/amarokm12157.slave-socket amarok(12157)/kio (Slave) KIO::Slave::createSlave: createSlave file for KUrl(file:///usr/share/apps/amarok/images//info_frontpage_logo.png) amarok(12157)/kio (KIOConnection) KIO::ConnectionServer::listenForRemote: Listening on local:/home/alan/.kde4/socket-nazgul/amarokz12157.slave-socket amarok(12157)/kdecore (K*TimeZone*) KSystemTimeZonesPrivate::instance: instance(): ... initialised amarok(12157)/kdecore (K*TimeZone*) KSystemTimeZonesPrivate::readConfig: readConfig(): local zone= Africa/Johannesburg amarok(12157)/kdecore (K*TimeZone*) KSystemTimeZonesPrivate::readZoneTab: readZoneTab( /usr/share/zoneinfo/zone.tab ) amarok(12157)/kio (KDirListerCache) KDirListerCache::slotResult: finished listing KUrl(file:///home/alan/downloads/music) amarok(12157)/kio (AccessManager) KDEPrivate::AccessManagerReply::jobDone: 0 - QNetworkReply::NoError amarok(12157)/kio (KIOConnection) KIO::SocketConnectionBackend::socketReadyRead: KIO::SocketConnectionBackend(0x2f0cfd0) Jumbo packet of 308680 bytes amarok(12157)/kio (KIOConnection) KIO::SocketConnectionBackend::socketReadyRead: KIO::SocketConnectionBackend(0x2f0cfd0) Jumbo packet of 308680 bytes amarok(12157)/kio (KIOConnection) KIO::SocketConnectionBackend::socketReadyRead: KIO::SocketConnectionBackend(0x2f0cfd0) Jumbo packet of 308680 bytes amarok(12157)/kio (KDirListerCache) KDirListerCache::slotResult: finished listing KUrl(trash:/) *** glibc detected *** amarok: free(): invalid pointer: 0x03295080 *** never had that problem. opened a bug with amarok already? Not yet, I also want to gather more info on these errors too: amarok:[ERROR!] GREPME MySQL query failed! No database selected on DELETE FROM images; There's a similar error for every single collection query. Which means that my collection cannot get indexed. But first I need to establish if it's some out of date code issue that revdep-rebuild misses, or perhaps a peculiarity of glibc-2.11 as Nagatoro hinted at -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
Re: [gentoo-user] Has mysql become compulsory - Part 2
Nagatoro skrev: On Tuesday 10 November 2009 13.14.13 Alan McKinnon wrote: [...] *** glibc detected *** amarok: free(): invalid pointer: 0x03295080 *** This is a highly debated issue, glibc has new checks for various things and it seems like some think the checks are to strict or even wrong while others think that the checks are ok and the applications are wrong. Really? A pointer is valid for free() if it has been returned by malloc, calloc, realloc or strdup, and has not yet been passed to free(). What could there possibly be to debate?
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Programmers all seem to have gaming rigs. It's been a struggle to keep hal and dbus off my machines. And I was unhappy when Firefox put SQLite in as a hard dependancy. I think you'll simply have to give up on KDE and its applications. -- Walter Dnes waltd...@waltdnes.org
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On Mittwoch 11 November 2009, Walter Dnes wrote: Programmers all seem to have gaming rigs. It's been a struggle to keep hal and dbus off my machines. And I was unhappy when Firefox put SQLite in as a hard dependancy. I think you'll simply have to give up on KDE and its applications. hal and dbus have as much as zero performance impact. And dbus also replaces dcop. So there there is a system less running. mysql embedded is also a very low load.
[gentoo-user] Has mysql become compulsory - Part 2
This morning I woke up to amarok-2.2.0 requiring mysql. No matter what USE flags I tried (-mysql, -semantic-desktop, -embedded, minimal) the darn thing wants mysql. The strange thing is that even when I specify -embedded +minimal I get this: # USE=-embedded minimal emerge -upDv amarok These are the packages that would be merged, in order: Calculating dependencies... done! emerge: there are no ebuilds built with USE flags to satisfy =dev- db/mysql-5.0.76-r1[embedded,-minimal]. !!! One of the following packages is required to complete your request: - dev-db/mysql-5.0.84-r1 (Change USE: +embedded -minimal) (dependency required by media-sound/amarok-2.2.0 [ebuild]) (dependency required by amarok [argument]) I don't udnerstand, are my USE choices ignored? On this old and small laptop I do not want to install mysql. I am already cursing Akonadi for starting up every time I fire up Kmail (despite having all the right flags according to advice from this list). Is there anything I can do now to keep my laptop slim and free from mysql? -- Regards, Mick signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
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this has been discussed to death. Why don't you use google? amarok has a hard dependency on mysql. There is nothing you can do about it with useflags. The amarok devs have explained that several times. (sqlite too slow with big collections, no way to share collections, too much work to support more than one db etc pp).
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On Monday 26 October 2009 23:10:01 Alan McKinnon wrote: On Tuesday 27 October 2009 00:26:31 Mick wrote: Create the conventional addressbooks as files in ~/.kde4/share/kde4/services/resources - exactly as we did in KDE-3.5 Hmm I didn't have any files in there, there were all under ~/.kde3.5/share/apps/* I have set up conventional files or directories for all categories in there (kmail, addressbook, notes, calendar) but it still tries to start Akonadi. /sigh When all else fails, I like to use big guns: grep -r akonadi ~/.kde4/share/config/* and start trawling through the output Thanks Alan, I can't see much to trawl through I'm afraid: $ grep -ri akonadi ~/.kde4/share/config/* /home/michael/.kde4/share/config/kres-migratorrc:Recent Files[$e]=$HOME/Akonadi_error.txt,$HOME/Akonadi_error.txt /home/michael/.kde4/share/config/kwriterc:File8[$e]=$HOME/Akonadi_error.txt /home/michael/.kde4/share/config/kwriterc:Name8[$e]=Akonadi_error.txt Just the recent akonadi error file that I opened with kwrite. -- Regards, Mick signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
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2009/10/25 Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com: On Sunday 25 October 2009 22:19:11 Mick wrote: # emerge -uatDv world These are the packages that would be merged, in reverse order: Calculating dependencies... done! [nomerge ] kde-base/kdepim-meta-4.3.1 USE=(-kdeprefix) [ebuild N ] kde-base/akonadi-4.3.1 USE=(-aqua) -debug (-kdeprefix) - semantic-desktop 0 kB Yes, you can't avoid having at least akonadi-server merged with kmail, it's a hard dep on kdepimlibs: $ equery depends akonadi-server * Searching for akonadi-server ... kde-base/akonadi-4.3.2 (=app-office/akonadi-server-1.2.1) kde-base/kdepimlibs-4.3.2 (=app-office/akonadi-server-1.2.0) Which I guess proves the point that Dirk is making. If I were to emerge akonadi again, will it pop up everytime I start kmail, knode, etc? No, at least mine doesn't here. I forget exactly what I did to achieve this, it was something like having trouble getting akonadi to work right, so I set all the kdepim apps to use the resource files directly in the fashion of KDE-3.5 Can you please share what you did on your system to make this happen if you can remember? Over here kde-base/akonadi is dragged in by kde-base/kdepim-meta and I haven't found a way to disable it. Every time I fire up kmail it starts up and causes delay as it fails to find/start mysqld. I have unmerged nepomuke and all related packages have been remerged with -semantic-desktop set in /etc/make.conf: # euse -I semantic-desktop global use flags (searching: semantic-desktop) [- c ] semantic-desktop - Cross-KDE support for semantic search and information retrieval Installed packages matching this USE flag: kde-base/akonadi-4.3.1 kde-base/dolphin-4.3.1-r1 kde-base/gwenview-4.3.1 kde-base/kdebase-meta-4.3.1 kde-base/kdelibs-4.3.1-r2 kde-base/kget-4.3.1 kde-base/kmail-4.3.1-r1 kde-base/pykde4-4.3.1 local use flags (searching: semantic-desktop) [- c ] semantic-desktop (kde-base/dolphin): Semantic desktop allows for storage of digital information and its metadata to allow the user to express his personal mental models, making all information become intuitively accessible. -- Regards, Mick
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On Monday 26 October 2009 16:26:23 Mick wrote: Which I guess proves the point that Dirk is making. If I were to emerge akonadi again, will it pop up everytime I start kmail, knode, etc? No, at least mine doesn't here. I forget exactly what I did to achieve this, it was something like having trouble getting akonadi to work right, so I set all the kdepim apps to use the resource files directly in the fashion of KDE-3.5 Can you please share what you did on your system to make this happen if you can remember? Over here kde-base/akonadi is dragged in by kde-base/kdepim-meta and I haven't found a way to disable it. Every time I fire up kmail it starts up and causes delay as it fails to find/start mysqld. SystemSettings - Resources Create the conventional addressbooks as files in ~/.kde4/share/kde4/services/resources - exactly as we did in KDE-3.5 In the list of types of resources, there are Akondai related item, just don't use those, and kmail will use the file directly. I have unmerged nepomuke and all related packages have been remerged with -semantic-desktop set in /etc/make.conf: akonadi and nepomuk are not the same thing, not even remotely. akonadi is a backend store for pim data (mail, addresses, etc). It is application agnostic, so in theory at least Thunderbird, kmail and Evolution could all use akonadi to get to the same data. nepomuk and strigi are involved with desktop search and indexing all of your data. It is similar in principle to Beagle on Gnome (but with bigger design scope). There's no reason Nepomuk can't use the data presented by akonadi for it's indexing, but it's not a requirement - it can just as easily index conventional maildirs. You can't avoid having akonadi, nepomuk etc pulled in somehow. Just don't run them. -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
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On Monday 26 October 2009 20:26:54 Alan McKinnon wrote: I forget exactly what I did to achieve this, it was something like having trouble getting akonadi to work right, so I set all the kdepim apps to use the resource files directly in the fashion of KDE-3.5 Can you please share what you did on your system to make this happen if you can remember? Over here kde-base/akonadi is dragged in by kde-base/kdepim-meta and I haven't found a way to disable it. Every time I fire up kmail it starts up and causes delay as it fails to find/start mysqld. SystemSettings - Resources Thanks for this! Create the conventional addressbooks as files in ~/.kde4/share/kde4/services/resources - exactly as we did in KDE-3.5 Hmm I didn't have any files in there, there were all under ~/.kde3.5/share/apps/* I have set up conventional files or directories for all categories in there (kmail, addressbook, notes, calendar) but it still tries to start Akonadi. /sigh In the list of types of resources, there are Akondai related item, just don't use those, and kmail will use the file directly. I have unmerged nepomuke and all related packages have been remerged with -semantic-desktop set in /etc/make.conf: akonadi and nepomuk are not the same thing, not even remotely. Thanks I know that. You can't avoid having akonadi, nepomuk etc pulled in somehow. Just don't run them. Nepomuk is not pulled in here. Akonadi of course is another matter, because of the kdepim hardcoded dependency. Grateful for any more ideas to make that bloody akonadi give up. :-) -- Regards, Mick signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
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On Tuesday 27 October 2009 00:26:31 Mick wrote: Create the conventional addressbooks as files in ~/.kde4/share/kde4/services/resources - exactly as we did in KDE-3.5 Hmm I didn't have any files in there, there were all under ~/.kde3.5/share/apps/* I have set up conventional files or directories for all categories in there (kmail, addressbook, notes, calendar) but it still tries to start Akonadi. /sigh When all else fails, I like to use big guns: grep -r akonadi ~/.kde4/share/config/* and start trawling through the output -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
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On 24 Oct 2009, at 22:51, Dave Jones wrote: ... How presumptuous of you to say so. Has the gentoo-user group become the resource of last-resort? Has gentoo-user become restricted, to be used only when all other avenues of exploration have been exhausted? If that is so, then shame on me, I must have missed that announcement too. I'm really in two minds about posting this, because the above is so aggravating and whiny. Getting on a soap-box and complaining about the other list users (i.e. me and us) seems to imply that it's somehow everyone else's responsibility to fix your problem for you. However, I'm wondering if the original suggestion to search the find archives might have antagonised you less if it had been phrased differently. Mention of the KDE upgrade before that, and the libxcb thing, xorg-1.6, and dbus/hal only seem to have confused matters; hashed to death may be an exaggeration, as I can only (immediately) find the one thread. Perhaps if Alan had asked did you read last week's thread on this subject? you might have gone and found: http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/gentoo/user/199323 Stroller.
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Alan McKinnon wrote on 25/10/09 01:38: Oh please, grow up, get a life and stop sounding like a spoilt brat. Thank you for this constructive and original comment. Just as useful as your other postings on this thread.
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Neil Bothwick wrote on 25/10/09 00:51: I suppose you're also in favour of McDonalds putting Warning, contents may be hot notices of their coffee cups? Off topic?
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On Sun, 25 Oct 2009 11:11:28 +0100, Dave Jones wrote: I suppose you're also in favour of McDonalds putting Warning, contents may be hot notices of their coffee cups? Off topic? Only when taken out of context. -- Neil Bothwick A. Top posters. Q. What is the most annoying thing on Usenet? signature.asc Description: PGP signature
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Dirk Heinrichs wrote: Am Samstag 24 Oktober 2009 02:02:16 schrieb Dave Jones: Please search the mail archives. Or read your elogs, it's all in there. Alan, thank you for your 'RTFM' reply. which is utterly useless either to me or any other follower of the gentoo-user mail group. It's neither useless to you nor to anybody else. The question has been answered here several times in the past couple of days and way before that in your very own portage news. So pointing you to the list archives or elogs gives you evrything you need to solve your problem. Bye... Dirk It is not just a matter of pissing off members on this list by asking everything again and again. Most of the people don't ask here, but file directly a bug against the issue. I saw douzens of those the last weeks, concerning the qt thing, shared-mime-info upgrade etc. We have a relatively good system to inform user about things going on and the news items are another big step forward. But if users don't read and use them they get useless. So read and think about what portage tells you!!! signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Has MySQL become compulsory?
On Sunday 25 October 2009 10:43:41 Neil Bothwick wrote: On Sun, 25 Oct 2009 11:11:28 +0100, Dave Jones wrote: Back on topic I hope, it seems to me that KDE4 has made certain choices which detract from the Gentoo way of being able to run lean and mean should you choose to do so. I am waiting to see if sqlite is going to improve its code to be able to play with akonadi in KDE4. I guess that until then I will have to put up with the few seconds that akonadi tries to start, searches and then fails to find mysql. Not sure if this is a signal of maturity, or if KDE is becoming as bloated as Gnome was considered to be a couple of years ago (for the most belligerent on this list pls don't take this as an opportunity to restart another ancient flamewar, I'm just making a cursory observation). -- Regards, Mick signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] Has MySQL become compulsory?
On Sun, 25 Oct 2009 11:08:12 +, Mick wrote: I guess that until then I will have to put up with the few seconds that akonadi tries to start, searches and then fails to find mysql. Or turn off desktop searching, as I have on my notebook with a noticeable improvement in responsiveness. -- Neil Bothwick A computer is like an Old Testament god, with a lot of rules and no mercy. \xA0-- Joseph Campbell signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Has MySQL become compulsory?
Am Sonntag 25 Oktober 2009 13:05:53 schrieb Neil Bothwick: On Sun, 25 Oct 2009 11:08:12 +, Mick wrote: I guess that until then I will have to put up with the few seconds that akonadi tries to start, searches and then fails to find mysql. Or turn off desktop searching, as I have on my notebook with a noticeable improvement in responsiveness. How would that affect akonadi? Bye... Dirk signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] Has MySQL become compulsory?
On Sunday 25 October 2009 12:30:32 Dirk Heinrichs wrote: Am Sonntag 25 Oktober 2009 13:05:53 schrieb Neil Bothwick: On Sun, 25 Oct 2009 11:08:12 +, Mick wrote: I guess that until then I will have to put up with the few seconds that akonadi tries to start, searches and then fails to find mysql. Or turn off desktop searching, as I have on my notebook with a noticeable improvement in responsiveness. How would that affect akonadi? I am not sure if I am doing this right ... started kde, went into system settings and switched off neponuke (strigi was already switched off) - but as Dirk says akonadi still starts up when I launch kmail. -- Regards, Mick signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] Has MySQL become compulsory?
On Sunday 25 October 2009 13:08:12 Mick wrote: On Sunday 25 October 2009 10:43:41 Neil Bothwick wrote: On Sun, 25 Oct 2009 11:11:28 +0100, Dave Jones wrote: Back on topic I hope, it seems to me that KDE4 has made certain choices which detract from the Gentoo way of being able to run lean and mean should you choose to do so. I am waiting to see if sqlite is going to improve its code to be able to play with akonadi in KDE4. I guess that until then I will have to put up with the few seconds that akonadi tries to start, searches and then fails to find mysql. I doubt that will ever happen. Akonadi is designed with multi-user usage in mind, sqlite is built with embedded single-user usage in mind. Any attempt to use sqlite in Akondai will result in race-condition and blocker issues which can only be resolved by running akonadi in some single-user mode, or writing a proxy-style front end to sqlite. Either way it seems like way too much effort for way too little return. Not sure if this is a signal of maturity, or if KDE is becoming as bloated as Gnome was considered to be a couple of years ago (for the most belligerent on this list pls don't take this as an opportunity to restart another ancient flamewar, I'm just making a cursory observation). maturity and bloat are often conflated and confused. The direction that the KDE-4 devs want to go is a completely integrated desktop where everything is aware of everything else, and data is considered to be just that - simply data. Every app knows what to do with any data, so you loose the distinction between email from kmail and chat history from kopete - the DE just knows what to do with it and presents it in some sane fashion. Well that's the goal, perhaps not the current reality. Point being, this requires huge backing libs and powerful processors. And that is what the average user possesses. It isn't bloat - it's what is needed to fulfil the stated goal. This doesn't suit everyone, so accusations of bloat tend to bubble up :-) For those people, there are other DEs and WMs that suit their purpose. The *box packages for instance - those give you a lean mean desktop with the absolute minimum code and nothing more. -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
Re: [gentoo-user] Has MySQL become compulsory?
On Sun, 25 Oct 2009 13:30:32 +0100, Dirk Heinrichs wrote: Or turn off desktop searching, as I have on my notebook with a noticeable improvement in responsiveness. How would that affect akonadi? Because you no longer need it. Set USE=-semantic-desktop and akonadi isn't even installed. -- Neil Bothwick Q: How many accountants does it take to screw in a light bulb? A: What kind of answer did you have in mind? signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Has MySQL become compulsory?
Am Sonntag 25 Oktober 2009 14:18:45 schrieb Neil Bothwick: On Sun, 25 Oct 2009 13:30:32 +0100, Dirk Heinrichs wrote: Or turn off desktop searching, as I have on my notebook with a noticeable improvement in responsiveness. How would that affect akonadi? Because you no longer need it. Set USE=-semantic-desktop and akonadi isn't even installed. akonadi is an unconditional dep of kdepim. It's about storing PIM data, not desktop searching (strigi/nepomuk). Bye... Dirk signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] Has MySQL become compulsory?
On Sunday 25 October 2009 13:35:30 Dirk Heinrichs wrote: Am Sonntag 25 Oktober 2009 14:18:45 schrieb Neil Bothwick: On Sun, 25 Oct 2009 13:30:32 +0100, Dirk Heinrichs wrote: Or turn off desktop searching, as I have on my notebook with a noticeable improvement in responsiveness. How would that affect akonadi? Because you no longer need it. Set USE=-semantic-desktop and akonadi isn't even installed. akonadi is an unconditional dep of kdepim. It's about storing PIM data, not desktop searching (strigi/nepomuk). Bye... Dirk I set -semantic-desktop in my /etc/make.conf. I unmerged akonadi. Then remerged: kde-base/kdelibs kde-base/gwenview kde-base/kget kde-base/dolphin kde-base/kmail kde-base/kdebase-meta kde-base/kdeaddons-meta These were all the packages that contained a semantic-desktop USE flag. Now I get this: # emerge -uatDv world These are the packages that would be merged, in reverse order: Calculating dependencies... done! [nomerge ] kde-base/kdepim-meta-4.3.1 USE=(-kdeprefix) [ebuild N] kde-base/akonadi-4.3.1 USE=(-aqua) -debug (-kdeprefix) - semantic-desktop 0 kB Which I guess proves the point that Dirk is making. If I were to emerge akonadi again, will it pop up everytime I start kmail, knode, etc? -- Regards, Mick signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] Has MySQL become compulsory?
On Sun, 25 Oct 2009 20:19:11 +, Mick wrote: Which I guess proves the point that Dirk is making. If I were to emerge akonadi again, will it pop up everytime I start kmail, knode, etc? So it's needed by KMail, not KDE in general (I don't use KMail). -- Neil Bothwick There are 10 types of people in this world, those who understand binary notation and those who don't. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Has MySQL become compulsory?
On Sunday 25 October 2009 22:19:11 Mick wrote: # emerge -uatDv world These are the packages that would be merged, in reverse order: Calculating dependencies... done! [nomerge ] kde-base/kdepim-meta-4.3.1 USE=(-kdeprefix) [ebuild N] kde-base/akonadi-4.3.1 USE=(-aqua) -debug (-kdeprefix) - semantic-desktop 0 kB Yes, you can't avoid having at least akonadi-server merged with kmail, it's a hard dep on kdepimlibs: $ equery depends akonadi-server * Searching for akonadi-server ... kde-base/akonadi-4.3.2 (=app-office/akonadi-server-1.2.1) kde-base/kdepimlibs-4.3.2 (=app-office/akonadi-server-1.2.0) Which I guess proves the point that Dirk is making. If I were to emerge akonadi again, will it pop up everytime I start kmail, knode, etc? No, at least mine doesn't here. I forget exactly what I did to achieve this, it was something like having trouble getting akonadi to work right, so I set all the kdepim apps to use the resource files directly in the fashion of KDE-3.5 -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
Re: [gentoo-user] Has MySQL become compulsory?
Mick wrote: On Sunday 25 October 2009 13:35:30 Dirk Heinrichs wrote: Am Sonntag 25 Oktober 2009 14:18:45 schrieb Neil Bothwick: On Sun, 25 Oct 2009 13:30:32 +0100, Dirk Heinrichs wrote: Or turn off desktop searching, as I have on my notebook with a noticeable improvement in responsiveness. How would that affect akonadi? Because you no longer need it. Set USE=-semantic-desktop and akonadi isn't even installed. akonadi is an unconditional dep of kdepim. It's about storing PIM data, not desktop searching (strigi/nepomuk). Bye... Dirk I set -semantic-desktop in my /etc/make.conf. I unmerged akonadi. Then remerged: kde-base/kdelibs kde-base/gwenview kde-base/kget kde-base/dolphin kde-base/kmail kde-base/kdebase-meta kde-base/kdeaddons-meta These were all the packages that contained a semantic-desktop USE flag. Now I get this: # emerge -uatDv world These are the packages that would be merged, in reverse order: Calculating dependencies... done! [nomerge ] kde-base/kdepim-meta-4.3.1 USE=(-kdeprefix) [ebuild N] kde-base/akonadi-4.3.1 USE=(-aqua) -debug (-kdeprefix) - semantic-desktop 0 kB Which I guess proves the point that Dirk is making. If I were to emerge akonadi again, will it pop up everytime I start kmail, knode, etc? Well, I put -semantic-desktop in my USE line and ran emerge -uvDN world. It recompiled several things and told me it had some @preserved-rebuild packages to build. So, I ran that and got this little message: r...@smoker / # emerge @preserved-rebuild -a These are the packages that would be merged, in order: Calculating dependencies ... done! emerge: there are no ebuilds built with USE flags to satisfy =kde-base/kdelibs-4.3.2:4.3[semantic-desktop,-kdeprefix]. !!! One of the following packages is required to complete your request: - kde-base/kdelibs-4.3.2-r3 (Change USE: +semantic-desktop) (dependency required by kde-base/nepomuk-4.3.2 [ebuild]) (dependency required by @preserved-rebuild [argument]) r...@smoker / # So I guess we can't really have the USE flag disabled either. Neato ! sarcasm there Now to change my USE line back again and run emerge -uvDN world. Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] Has MySQL become compulsory?
On 10/25/2009 8:10 PM, Dale wrote: Well, I put -semantic-desktop in my USE line and ran emerge -uvDN world. It recompiled several things and told me it had some @preserved-rebuild packages to build. So, I ran that and got this little message: r...@smoker / # emerge @preserved-rebuild -a These are the packages that would be merged, in order: Calculating dependencies ... done! emerge: there are no ebuilds built with USE flags to satisfy =kde-base/kdelibs-4.3.2:4.3[semantic-desktop,-kdeprefix]. !!! One of the following packages is required to complete your request: - kde-base/kdelibs-4.3.2-r3 (Change USE: +semantic-desktop) (dependency required by kde-base/nepomuk-4.3.2 [ebuild]) (dependency required by @preserved-rebuild [argument]) The semantic desktop is the whole point of nepomuk. If you don't want all the semantic desktop KDE stuff, then you don't want nepomuk either. Try removing it instead of rebuilding it. --Mike
Re: [gentoo-user] Has MySQL become compulsory?
On Samstag 24 Oktober 2009, Dave Jones wrote: Alan McKinnon wrote on 24/10/09 01:39: On Saturday 24 October 2009 01:25:44 Dave Jones wrote: Ran an eix-sync followed by an emerge -puDNv world. It reported that my 'profile' was no longer supported, and suggested switching to the 'default/linux/x86/10.0/desktop', which I did. Retried the emerge -puDNv world, with the following result: emerge: there are no ebuilds built with USE flags to satisfy =x11-libs/qt-sql-4.5.0:4[mysql]. !!! One of the following packages is required to complete your request: - x11-libs/qt-sql-4.5.2 (Change USE: +mysql) (dependency required by app-office/akonadi-server-1.2.1 [ebuild]) (dependency required by kde-base/kdepimlibs-4.3.1 [ebuild]) (dependency required by kde-base/kdnssd-4.3.1 [ebuild]) (dependency required by kde-base/kcontrol-4.3.1 [ebuild]) (dependency required by kde-base/kdebase-meta-4.3.1 [ebuild]) (dependency required by world [argument]) Result of 'eix x11-libs/qt-sql' : I do not want either mysql or KDE4 on my 'stable' desktop host. Any ideas what's happening? Or how to fix it without installing mysql? This has been hashed to death many many many many times in recent weeks. Just like the KDE upgrade before that, and the libxcb thing, xorg-1.6, and dbus/hal. Please search the mail archives. Or read your elogs, it's all in there. Alan, thank you for your 'RTFM' reply. which is utterly useless either to me or any other follower of the gentoo-user mail group. My question concerns an apparent new requirement for mysql. Your asides about xorg-1.6, libxcb, dbus/hal do not seem to be relevant in any way. Any (helpful) takers out there? Cheers, Dave well, how to mask packages to prevent the installation of unwanted versions has been hashed to death many, many many times too..
Re: [gentoo-user] Has MySQL become compulsory?
On Sat, 24 Oct 2009 02:02:16 +0200, Dave Jones wrote: Alan, thank you for your 'RTFM' reply. which is utterly useless either to me or any other follower of the gentoo-user mail group. Seeing as how this has been discussed in the last two days, I don't see how Alan's advice is useless. The question has been asked and people have taken the time and trouble to answer it. Why should they do it again when you could just as easily find the previous answer yourself. -- Neil Bothwick If Microsoft made cars: The airbag system would ask are you sure? before deploying. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Has MySQL become compulsory?
Am Samstag 24 Oktober 2009 02:02:16 schrieb Dave Jones: Please search the mail archives. Or read your elogs, it's all in there. Alan, thank you for your 'RTFM' reply. which is utterly useless either to me or any other follower of the gentoo-user mail group. It's neither useless to you nor to anybody else. The question has been answered here several times in the past couple of days and way before that in your very own portage news. So pointing you to the list archives or elogs gives you evrything you need to solve your problem. Bye... Dirk signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] Has MySQL become compulsory?
Neil Bothwick wrote on 24/10/09 09:53: On Sat, 24 Oct 2009 02:02:16 +0200, Dave Jones wrote: Alan, thank you for your 'RTFM' reply. which is utterly useless either to me or any other follower of the gentoo-user mail group. Seeing as how this has been discussed in the last two days, I don't see how Alan's advice is useless. The question has been asked and people have taken the time and trouble to answer it. Why should they do it again when you could just as easily find the previous answer yourself. Another 'RTFM' message, thanks. I'll answer my own question, including detail which may be useful to other users: emerge PyQt with USE=webkit sql I had installed a few kde-meta packages rather than the full kde-meta. eix -I kde | grep meta list your installed kde-meta packages Add the kde4 versions of those meta packages to package.mask: (Sample) package.mask to mask kde4: =kde-base/kdeaddons-meta-4* =kde-base/kdeadmin-meta-4* =kde-base/kdeartwork-meta-4* =kde-base/kdebase-meta-4* =kde-base/kdemultimedia-meta-4* =kde-base/kdeutils-meta-4* # Mask non-meta kde installed package: =kde-base/kdenetwork-filesharing-4* # Requires kdelibs-4, mask =media-video/kmplayer-0.11* # Required by kde4, requires mysql by default. app-office/akonadi-server
Re: [gentoo-user] Has MySQL become compulsory?
On Saturday 24 October 2009 14:58:00 Dave Jones wrote: Neil Bothwick wrote on 24/10/09 09:53: On Sat, 24 Oct 2009 02:02:16 +0200, Dave Jones wrote: Alan, thank you for your 'RTFM' reply. which is utterly useless either to me or any other follower of the gentoo-user mail group. Seeing as how this has been discussed in the last two days, I don't see how Alan's advice is useless. The question has been asked and people have taken the time and trouble to answer it. Why should they do it again when you could just as easily find the previous answer yourself. Another 'RTFM' message, thanks. I'll answer my own question, including detail which may be useful to other users: It's only useless so you since you have not done the usual research yourself yet; and it will continue to be useless until you do so. As others have said, the answer is in the list archives. The detail contained therein is likely even more than you need, but it is there. The asides I listed are there to demonstrate and point out that large numbers of similar questions are also repeatedly answered therein, along with the multitude of repeat posts on their respective subjects. I'm sorry you found my answer less than informative and perhaps even somewhat insulting, obviously I worded it incorrectly. But you see, your aw gawd, an 'RTFM' answer... is the identical reaction to my original aw gawd, a 'do my homework for me' question. Ponder that a little. -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
Re: [gentoo-user] Has MySQL become compulsory?
Alan McKinnon wrote on 24/10/09 22:18: Why should they do it again when you could just as easily find the previous answer yourself. I'll answer my own question, including detail which may be useful to other users It's only useless so you since you have not done the usual research yourself yet; and it will continue to be useless until you do so. How presumptuous of you to say so. Has the gentoo-user group become the resource of last-resort? Has gentoo-user become restricted, to be used only when all other avenues of exploration have been exhausted? If that is so, then shame on me, I must have missed that announcement too. I'm sorry you found my answer less than informative and perhaps even somewhat insulting, obviously I worded it incorrectly. But you see, your aw gawd, an 'RTFM' answer... is the identical reaction to my original aw gawd, a 'do my homework for me' question. Ponder that a little. Your RTFM reply arrived 14 minutes after my question. It clearly showed that you were aware of the answer to my question. A reference to any of the relevant threads would have been very helpful, and would have been much appreciated. However, an answer which merely states that the question has already been answered, but lacking any further reference to the existing answer is utterly worthless. Please consider the futility of uninformative answers to questions. Do you seriously believe that a question can only ever be posed (and answered) once? You are entirely free to chose whether you answer a question or not. However, if you don't want to answer in a helpful manner, it would be better to leave the question unanswered. Should you wish to discuss this further, feel free to contact me off-list.
Re: [gentoo-user] Has MySQL become compulsory?
On Sat, 24 Oct 2009 23:51:05 +0200, Dave Jones wrote: How presumptuous of you to say so. Has the gentoo-user group become the resource of last-resort? Has gentoo-user become restricted, to be used only when all other avenues of exploration have been exhausted? If that is so, then shame on me, I must have missed that announcement too. Do we now need announcements to tell people that they should search list archives before posting a question if they do not regularly read list content? I suppose you're also in favour of McDonalds putting Warning, contents may be hot notices of their coffee cups? It seems to be increasingly unreasonable to expect a certain amount of common sense and willingness to help oneself, even among Gentoo users. -- Neil Bothwick I typed Format SER: and accidentally killed a telephone operator! signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Has MySQL become compulsory?
On Saturday 24 October 2009 23:51:05 Dave Jones wrote: I'm sorry you found my answer less than informative and perhaps even somewhat insulting, obviously I worded it incorrectly. But you see, your aw gawd, an 'RTFM' answer... is the identical reaction to my original aw gawd, a 'do my homework for me' question. Ponder that a little. Your RTFM reply arrived 14 minutes after my question. It clearly showed that you were aware of the answer to my question. A reference to any of the relevant threads would have been very helpful, and would have been much appreciated. Oh please, grow up, get a life and stop sounding like a spoilt brat. You expect me to find the links after a search and provide them for you. I prefer you to have done that for yourself. It would not have been hard, the briefest of scan through the last fortnights threads would have revealed where to look in the subject. I consider this subject closed now. You may continue the discussion with others if you wish, but it shall be conducted without me. -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
[gentoo-user] Has MySQL become compulsory?
Hi
Ran an eix-sync followed by an emerge -puDNv world.
It reported that my 'profile' was no longer supported, and suggested
switching to the 'default/linux/x86/10.0/desktop', which I did.
Retried the emerge -puDNv world, with the following result:
emerge: there are no ebuilds built with USE flags to satisfy
=x11-libs/qt-sql-4.5.0:4[mysql].
!!! One of the following packages is required to complete your request:
- x11-libs/qt-sql-4.5.2 (Change USE: +mysql)
(dependency required by app-office/akonadi-server-1.2.1 [ebuild])
(dependency required by kde-base/kdepimlibs-4.3.1 [ebuild])
(dependency required by kde-base/kdnssd-4.3.1 [ebuild])
(dependency required by kde-base/kcontrol-4.3.1 [ebuild])
(dependency required by kde-base/kdebase-meta-4.3.1 [ebuild])
(dependency required by world [argument])
Result of 'eix x11-libs/qt-sql' :
[I] x11-libs/qt-sql
Available versions: (4) 4.4.2 4.4.2-r1 4.5.1 4.5.2 ~4.5.3
{debug firebird iconv mysql odbc pch postgres qt3support sqlite}
Installed versions: 4.5.2(4)(20:32:44 10/10/09)(iconv qt3support sqlite
-debug -firebird -mysql -odbc -pch -postgres)
I do not want either mysql or KDE4 on my 'stable' desktop host.
Any ideas what's happening? Or how to fix it without installing mysql?
Cheers, Dave
Re: [gentoo-user] Has MySQL become compulsory?
On Saturday 24 October 2009 01:25:44 Dave Jones wrote:
Hi
Ran an eix-sync followed by an emerge -puDNv world.
It reported that my 'profile' was no longer supported, and suggested
switching to the 'default/linux/x86/10.0/desktop', which I did.
Retried the emerge -puDNv world, with the following result:
emerge: there are no ebuilds built with USE flags to satisfy
=x11-libs/qt-sql-4.5.0:4[mysql].
!!! One of the following packages is required to complete your request:
- x11-libs/qt-sql-4.5.2 (Change USE: +mysql)
(dependency required by app-office/akonadi-server-1.2.1 [ebuild])
(dependency required by kde-base/kdepimlibs-4.3.1 [ebuild])
(dependency required by kde-base/kdnssd-4.3.1 [ebuild])
(dependency required by kde-base/kcontrol-4.3.1 [ebuild])
(dependency required by kde-base/kdebase-meta-4.3.1 [ebuild])
(dependency required by world [argument])
Result of 'eix x11-libs/qt-sql' :
[I] x11-libs/qt-sql
Available versions: (4) 4.4.2 4.4.2-r1 4.5.1 4.5.2 ~4.5.3
{debug firebird iconv mysql odbc pch postgres qt3support sqlite}
Installed versions: 4.5.2(4)(20:32:44 10/10/09)(iconv qt3support sqlite
-debug -firebird -mysql -odbc -pch -postgres)
I do not want either mysql or KDE4 on my 'stable' desktop host.
Any ideas what's happening? Or how to fix it without installing mysql?
This has been hashed to death many many many many times in recent weeks. Just
like the KDE upgrade before that, and the libxcb thing, xorg-1.6, and
dbus/hal.
Please search the mail archives. Or read your elogs, it's all in there.
--
alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
Re: [gentoo-user] Has MySQL become compulsory?
Alan McKinnon wrote on 24/10/09 01:39: On Saturday 24 October 2009 01:25:44 Dave Jones wrote: Ran an eix-sync followed by an emerge -puDNv world. It reported that my 'profile' was no longer supported, and suggested switching to the 'default/linux/x86/10.0/desktop', which I did. Retried the emerge -puDNv world, with the following result: emerge: there are no ebuilds built with USE flags to satisfy =x11-libs/qt-sql-4.5.0:4[mysql]. !!! One of the following packages is required to complete your request: - x11-libs/qt-sql-4.5.2 (Change USE: +mysql) (dependency required by app-office/akonadi-server-1.2.1 [ebuild]) (dependency required by kde-base/kdepimlibs-4.3.1 [ebuild]) (dependency required by kde-base/kdnssd-4.3.1 [ebuild]) (dependency required by kde-base/kcontrol-4.3.1 [ebuild]) (dependency required by kde-base/kdebase-meta-4.3.1 [ebuild]) (dependency required by world [argument]) Result of 'eix x11-libs/qt-sql' : I do not want either mysql or KDE4 on my 'stable' desktop host. Any ideas what's happening? Or how to fix it without installing mysql? This has been hashed to death many many many many times in recent weeks. Just like the KDE upgrade before that, and the libxcb thing, xorg-1.6, and dbus/hal. Please search the mail archives. Or read your elogs, it's all in there. Alan, thank you for your 'RTFM' reply. which is utterly useless either to me or any other follower of the gentoo-user mail group. My question concerns an apparent new requirement for mysql. Your asides about xorg-1.6, libxcb, dbus/hal do not seem to be relevant in any way. Any (helpful) takers out there? Cheers, Dave
Re: [gentoo-user] Has MySQL become compulsory?
On Sat, Oct 24, 2009 at 02:02:16AM +0200, Dave Jones wrote My question concerns an apparent new requirement for mysql. Your asides about xorg-1.6, libxcb, dbus/hal do not seem to be relevant in any way. Any (helpful) takers out there? It looks like yes, MySql is compulsory now. See... http://techbase.kde.org/Projects/PIM/Akonadi#Which_DBMS_does_Akonadi_use.3F read it and weep. -- Walter Dnes waltd...@waltdnes.org
