Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 3.5 and desktop links not working

2009-10-15 Thread Frank Steinmetzger
Am Donnerstag, 15. Oktober 2009 schrieb Dale:
 Hi,

 I have KDE 4 installed as well and I think this is causing the problem
 but hope there is a fix for this little boo boo.  I have links to
 locations on my desktop so that I can click on them to get to places
 directly.  I have one for camera pics, another for movies and a few
 others.  I upgraded KDE 4 the other day and logged into it for a little
 while.  I'm now back in KDE 3.5 and my desktop links no longer work.
 When I click on them, it tries to open them with Dolphin and even asks
 for a password.  The permissions are correct.  Owner is dale and group
 is users.  I should also add that if I type in the password, user or
 root, it does nothing at all.  It just sits there.

Sometimes my settings in KDE3 are screwed after a KDE4 session. I assume that 
happens when I open a KDE3 app in KDE4. Then then environment isn't properly 
configured somewhere. It then helps to run kbuildsycoca, log out and log in 
again.
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Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 3.5 and desktop links not working

2009-10-15 Thread Dale
Frank Steinmetzger wrote:
 Am Donnerstag, 15. Oktober 2009 schrieb Dale:
   
 Hi,

 I have KDE 4 installed as well and I think this is causing the problem
 but hope there is a fix for this little boo boo.  I have links to
 locations on my desktop so that I can click on them to get to places
 directly.  I have one for camera pics, another for movies and a few
 others.  I upgraded KDE 4 the other day and logged into it for a little
 while.  I'm now back in KDE 3.5 and my desktop links no longer work.
 When I click on them, it tries to open them with Dolphin and even asks
 for a password.  The permissions are correct.  Owner is dale and group
 is users.  I should also add that if I type in the password, user or
 root, it does nothing at all.  It just sits there.
 

 Sometimes my settings in KDE3 are screwed after a KDE4 session. I assume that 
 happens when I open a KDE3 app in KDE4. Then then environment isn't properly 
 configured somewhere. It then helps to run kbuildsycoca, log out and log in 
 again.
   

I'll give that a try then.  I hope it works for sure.  It's getting
annoying to have to type in the location to open or find anything.  :/

Thanks.

Dale

:-)  :-)



Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 3.5 and desktop links not working

2009-10-15 Thread Dale
Frank Steinmetzger wrote:
 Am Donnerstag, 15. Oktober 2009 schrieb Dale:
   
 Hi,

 I have KDE 4 installed as well and I think this is causing the problem
 but hope there is a fix for this little boo boo.  I have links to
 locations on my desktop so that I can click on them to get to places
 directly.  I have one for camera pics, another for movies and a few
 others.  I upgraded KDE 4 the other day and logged into it for a little
 while.  I'm now back in KDE 3.5 and my desktop links no longer work.
 When I click on them, it tries to open them with Dolphin and even asks
 for a password.  The permissions are correct.  Owner is dale and group
 is users.  I should also add that if I type in the password, user or
 root, it does nothing at all.  It just sits there.
 

 Sometimes my settings in KDE3 are screwed after a KDE4 session. I assume that 
 happens when I open a KDE3 app in KDE4. Then then environment isn't properly 
 configured somewhere. It then helps to run kbuildsycoca, log out and log in 
 again.
   

Well, that started something.  I'll post the output here.

kbuildsycoca running...
Reusing existing ksycoca
kio (KService*): WARNING: The desktop entry file
.hidden/dirfilterplugin.desktop has Type=Service but is located under
apps instead of services
kio (KService*): WARNING: Invalid Service : .hidden/dirfilterplugin.desktop
kbuildsycoca: WARNING: '/usr/kde/3.5/share/applications/kde/ark.desktop'
specifies undefined mimetype/servicetype 'application/x-tbz2'
kbuildsycoca: WARNING: '/usr/kde/3.5/share/applications/kde/ark.desktop'
specifies undefined mimetype/servicetype 'application/zip'
kbuildsycoca: WARNING:
'/usr/share/applications/kde4/kaddressbook.desktop' specifies undefined
mimetype/servicetype 'text/directory'
kbuildsycoca: WARNING: '/usr/share/applications/hugin.desktop' specifies
undefined mimetype/servicetype 'application/x-ptoptimizer-script'
kbuildsycoca: WARNING: 'ark_part.desktop' specifies undefined
mimetype/servicetype 'application/x-tbz2'
kbuildsycoca: WARNING: 'karm_part.desktop' specifies undefined
mimetype/servicetype 'text/english'
kbuildsycoca: WARNING: 'karm_part.desktop' specifies undefined
mimetype/servicetype 'text/x-c'
kbuildsycoca: WARNING: 'karm_part.desktop' specifies undefined
mimetype/servicetype 'text/x-c++'
kbuildsycoca: WARNING: 'kmplayer_part.desktop' specifies undefined
mimetype/servicetype 'application/xspf+xml'
kbuildsycoca: WARNING: 'kmplayer_part.desktop' specifies undefined
mimetype/servicetype 'audio/m3u'
kbuildsycoca: WARNING: 'kmplayer_part.desktop' specifies undefined
mimetype/servicetype 'audio/x-m3u'
kbuildsycoca: WARNING: 'kmplayer_part.desktop' specifies undefined
mimetype/servicetype 'video/mediaplayer'
kbuildsycoca: WARNING: 'kmplayer_part.desktop' specifies undefined
mimetype/servicetype 'video/x-avi'
kbuildsycoca: WARNING: '/usr/share/applications/kde4/kalzium.desktop'
specifies undefined mimetype/servicetype 'chemical/x-cml'
kbuildsycoca: WARNING: 'klinkstatus_part.desktop' specifies undefined
mimetype/servicetype 'text/english'
kbuildsycoca: WARNING: 'klinkstatus_part.desktop' specifies undefined
mimetype/servicetype 'text/x-c'
kbuildsycoca: WARNING: 'klinkstatus_part.desktop' specifies undefined
mimetype/servicetype 'text/x-c++'
kbuildsycoca: WARNING:
'/usr/kde/3.5/share/applications/kde/kvoctrain.desktop' specifies
undefined mimetype/servicetype 'application/x-kvoctrain'
kbuildsycoca: WARNING:
'/usr/kde/3.5/share/applications/kde/kvoctrain.desktop' specifies
undefined mimetype/servicetype 'text/x-kvtml'
kbuildsycoca: WARNING: '/usr/share/applications/scribus.desktop'
specifies undefined mimetype/servicetype 'application/x-scribus'
kbuildsycoca: WARNING:
'/usr/share/applications/kde4/kolourpaint.desktop' specifies undefined
mimetype/servicetype 'image/bmp'
kbuildsycoca: WARNING:
'/usr/share/applications/kde4/kolourpaint.desktop' specifies undefined
mimetype/servicetype 'image/jpeg2000'
kbuildsycoca: WARNING:
'/usr/share/applications/kde4/kolourpaint.desktop' specifies undefined
mimetype/servicetype 'image/x-portable-graymap'
kbuildsycoca: WARNING:
'/usr/share/applications/kde4/kolourpaint.desktop' specifies undefined
mimetype/servicetype 'image/x-psd'
kbuildsycoca: WARNING:
'/usr/share/applications/kde4/kolourpaint.desktop' specifies undefined
mimetype/servicetype 'image/x-tga'
kbuildsycoca: WARNING:
'/usr/share/applications/kde4/kolourpaint.desktop' specifies undefined
mimetype/servicetype 'image/x-xbitmap'
kbuildsycoca: WARNING:
'/usr/share/applications/kde4/kolourpaint.desktop' specifies undefined
mimetype/servicetype 'image/x-xcf'
kbuildsycoca: WARNING:
'/usr/share/applications/kde4/kolourpaint.desktop' specifies undefined
mimetype/servicetype 'image/x-xpixmap'
kbuildsycoca: WARNING: '/usr/share/applications/kde4/gwenview.desktop'
specifies undefined mimetype/servicetype 'image/bmp'
kbuildsycoca: WARNING: '/usr/share/applications/kde4/gwenview.desktop'
specifies undefined mimetype/servicetype 'image/x-xbitmap'
kbuildsycoca: WARNING: 

Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 3.5 and desktop links not working

2009-10-15 Thread Paul Hartman
On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 3:10 PM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote:
 Well, that started something.  I'll post the output here.

 kbuildsycoca running...
 Reusing existing ksycoca
 kio (KService*): WARNING: The desktop entry file
 .hidden/dirfilterplugin.desktop has Type=Service but is located under
 apps instead of services
 kio (KService*): WARNING: Invalid Service : .hidden/dirfilterplugin.desktop
 kbuildsycoca: WARNING: '/usr/kde/3.5/share/applications/kde/ark.desktop'
 specifies undefined mimetype/servicetype 'application/x-tbz2'
 (etc)

Maybe same as this? http://bugs.gentoo.org/165586



Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 3.5 and desktop links not working

2009-10-15 Thread Dale
Paul Hartman wrote:
 On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 3:10 PM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote:
   
 Well, that started something.  I'll post the output here.

 kbuildsycoca running...
 Reusing existing ksycoca
 kio (KService*): WARNING: The desktop entry file
 .hidden/dirfilterplugin.desktop has Type=Service but is located under
 apps instead of services
 kio (KService*): WARNING: Invalid Service : .hidden/dirfilterplugin.desktop
 kbuildsycoca: WARNING: '/usr/kde/3.5/share/applications/kde/ark.desktop'
 specifies undefined mimetype/servicetype 'application/x-tbz2'
 
  (etc)

 Maybe same as this? http://bugs.gentoo.org/165586


   

Maybe.  I dunno.  I don't think the people in the bug know what to do
either.  May try to re-emerge KDE 3.5 and see what happens.

Open to other ideas tho.

Dale

:-)  :-) 



Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 3.5 and desktop links not working

2009-10-15 Thread Paul Hartman
On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 4:12 PM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote:
 Paul Hartman wrote:
 On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 3:10 PM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote:

 Well, that started something.  I'll post the output here.

 kbuildsycoca running...
 Reusing existing ksycoca
 kio (KService*): WARNING: The desktop entry file
 .hidden/dirfilterplugin.desktop has Type=Service but is located under
 apps instead of services
 kio (KService*): WARNING: Invalid Service : .hidden/dirfilterplugin.desktop
 kbuildsycoca: WARNING: '/usr/kde/3.5/share/applications/kde/ark.desktop'
 specifies undefined mimetype/servicetype 'application/x-tbz2'

  (etc)

 Maybe same as this? http://bugs.gentoo.org/165586




 Maybe.  I dunno.  I don't think the people in the bug know what to do
 either.  May try to re-emerge KDE 3.5 and see what happens.

 Open to other ideas tho.

My idea is to take the plunge and unmerge everything related to KDE3. :)



Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 3.5 and desktop links not working

2009-10-15 Thread Dale
Paul Hartman wrote:
 On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 4:12 PM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote:
   
 Paul Hartman wrote:
 
 On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 3:10 PM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote:

   
 Well, that started something.  I'll post the output here.

 kbuildsycoca running...
 Reusing existing ksycoca
 kio (KService*): WARNING: The desktop entry file
 .hidden/dirfilterplugin.desktop has Type=Service but is located under
 apps instead of services
 kio (KService*): WARNING: Invalid Service : .hidden/dirfilterplugin.desktop
 kbuildsycoca: WARNING: '/usr/kde/3.5/share/applications/kde/ark.desktop'
 specifies undefined mimetype/servicetype 'application/x-tbz2'

 
  (etc)

 Maybe same as this? http://bugs.gentoo.org/165586



   
 Maybe.  I dunno.  I don't think the people in the bug know what to do
 either.  May try to re-emerge KDE 3.5 and see what happens.

 Open to other ideas tho.
 

 My idea is to take the plunge and unmerge everything related to KDE3. :)


   

YEPPIE !!!  To think I did a emerge -ev world a week or so ago.   sighs
  I did just re-emerge kdelibs and it is really screwed up now.  I just
thought it was annoying earlier.  ;-)  It's really on my nerves now. 
Almost NOTHING works.  :-(

Open to ideas if anyone has any.

Dale

:-)  :-) 



Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 3.5 and desktop links not working

2009-10-15 Thread Paul Hartman
On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 5:34 PM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote:
 Paul Hartman wrote:
 On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 4:12 PM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote:

 Paul Hartman wrote:

 On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 3:10 PM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote:


 Well, that started something.  I'll post the output here.

 kbuildsycoca running...
 Reusing existing ksycoca
 kio (KService*): WARNING: The desktop entry file
 .hidden/dirfilterplugin.desktop has Type=Service but is located under
 apps instead of services
 kio (KService*): WARNING: Invalid Service : 
 .hidden/dirfilterplugin.desktop
 kbuildsycoca: WARNING: '/usr/kde/3.5/share/applications/kde/ark.desktop'
 specifies undefined mimetype/servicetype 'application/x-tbz2'


  (etc)

 Maybe same as this? http://bugs.gentoo.org/165586




 Maybe.  I dunno.  I don't think the people in the bug know what to do
 either.  May try to re-emerge KDE 3.5 and see what happens.

 Open to other ideas tho.


 My idea is to take the plunge and unmerge everything related to KDE3. :)




 YEPPIE !!!  To think I did a emerge -ev world a week or so ago.   sighs
  I did just re-emerge kdelibs and it is really screwed up now.  I just
 thought it was annoying earlier.  ;-)  It's really on my nerves now.
 Almost NOTHING works.  :-(

 Open to ideas if anyone has any.

Did you try kbuildsycoca4 in addition to kbuildsycoca?

I had an empty K-menu recently (on an all-KDE4 system)... recompiling
kdelibs fixed it in that case. I think kbuildsycoca fixes it in most
general cases though.



Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 3.5 and desktop links not working

2009-10-15 Thread Dale
Paul Hartman wrote:
 On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 5:34 PM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote:
   
 Paul Hartman wrote:
 
 On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 4:12 PM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote:

   
 Paul Hartman wrote:

 
 On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 3:10 PM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote:


   
 Well, that started something.  I'll post the output here.

 kbuildsycoca running...
 Reusing existing ksycoca
 kio (KService*): WARNING: The desktop entry file
 .hidden/dirfilterplugin.desktop has Type=Service but is located under
 apps instead of services
 kio (KService*): WARNING: Invalid Service : 
 .hidden/dirfilterplugin.desktop
 kbuildsycoca: WARNING: '/usr/kde/3.5/share/applications/kde/ark.desktop'
 specifies undefined mimetype/servicetype 'application/x-tbz2'


 
  (etc)

 Maybe same as this? http://bugs.gentoo.org/165586




   
 Maybe.  I dunno.  I don't think the people in the bug know what to do
 either.  May try to re-emerge KDE 3.5 and see what happens.

 Open to other ideas tho.

 
 My idea is to take the plunge and unmerge everything related to KDE3. :)



   
 YEPPIE !!!  To think I did a emerge -ev world a week or so ago.   sighs
 
  I did just re-emerge kdelibs and it is really screwed up now.  I just
   
 thought it was annoying earlier.  ;-)  It's really on my nerves now.
 Almost NOTHING works.  :-(

 Open to ideas if anyone has any.
 

 Did you try kbuildsycoca4 in addition to kbuildsycoca?

 I had an empty K-menu recently (on an all-KDE4 system)... recompiling
 kdelibs fixed it in that case. I think kbuildsycoca fixes it in most
 general cases though.


   

I didn't think to use the 4 version.  I did re-emerge kdesktop and that
fixed the K menu thingy.  I built a @set that will rebuild everything
KDE 3.5 and I'm about to start that.  If that fails, I'll unmerge KDE
3.5 and reinstall fresh, after removing the kde directory of course. 

I may log into KDE 4 and just see what happens after sending this
message.  Maybe that will help somehow.

Dale

:-)  :-) 



Re: [gentoo-user] kde 3.5 packages blocking each other

2009-06-15 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Monday 15 June 2009 03:32:57 Francisco Ares wrote:
 I've found out that there are some packages out of kde-basse that are
 pulling 3.5.10 packages while they're still masked ~x86

 One is Amarok.  Another, probably, is Ktorrent.

Amarok-1.4 will pull in kdelibs-3.5.10
Amarok-2.1 will pull in kdelibe-4

ktorrent also has a 3.5 and a 4 port.

k3b is still kde-3 only

-- 
alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com



Re: [gentoo-user] kde 3.5 packages blocking each other

2009-06-15 Thread Francisco Ares
Thanks again - going into kde-meta, it seems that everything will be ok

Francisco

On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 3:57 AM, Alan McKinnonalan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Monday 15 June 2009 03:32:57 Francisco Ares wrote:
 I've found out that there are some packages out of kde-basse that are
 pulling 3.5.10 packages while they're still masked ~x86

 One is Amarok.  Another, probably, is Ktorrent.

 Amarok-1.4 will pull in kdelibs-3.5.10
 Amarok-2.1 will pull in kdelibe-4

 ktorrent also has a 3.5 and a 4 port.

 k3b is still kde-3 only

 --
 alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com





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If you have an apple and I have an apple and we exchange apples then
you and I will still each have one apple. But if you have an idea and
I have one idea and we exchange these ideas, then each of us will have
two ideas. - George Bernard Shaw



Re: [gentoo-user] kde 3.5 packages blocking each other

2009-06-14 Thread Francisco Ares
I've found out that there are some packages out of kde-basse that are
pulling 3.5.10 packages while they're still masked ~x86

One is Amarok.  Another, probably, is Ktorrent.

Anyone has seen it or am I the only one not using KDE 4 ;-)  ?

Best regards to all
Francisco

On Sat, Jun 13, 2009 at 5:58 AM, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.comwrote:

 On Saturday 13 June 2009 01:54:45 Francisco Ares wrote:
  Thanks a lot!

 It's not completely obvious from Dirk's post (what he said is completely
 accurate though), but kde-3.5.10 will not receive monolithic ebuilds (dev
 decision). If you want kde-3.5.10, there is only one way to do it -

 Unmerge your existing kde monolithic packages
 Rememerge the new kde split packages

 There's a good migration guide at gentoo.org, called Migrating to KDE
 split
 ebuilds or some such. A quick search will find it for you.




 
  Francisco
 
  On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 5:58 PM, Dirk Heinrichs
 dirk.heinri...@online.dewrote:
   Am Freitag 12 Juni 2009 22:45:49 schrieb Francisco Ares:
And how do I tell if an ebuild is monolithic or not?
  
   The monolithic ones install larger parts of KDE, and usually have the
   same names as the original source packages offered at KDE.org.
  
   The split ebuilds, well, split those packages into their individual
   applications, so you have ebuilds for konqueror (which is also part of
   kdenetwork) or kmail (kdepim). In addition, there are the -meta
   ebuilds, which have the same name as the monolitic ones, but with -meta
   appended (kdepim-meta). Those usually install the same applications
 than
   monolithic ebuilds, but as split ebuilds.
  
   So, when you install kde, you get a complete KDE from monolithic
 ebuilds
   and
   when you install kde-meta, you get a complete KDE from split ebuilds.
  
   That's also the reason why they block each other. When you have kdepim
   installed, you already got kmail, so you shouldn't install kmail from
 the
   split ebuild again.
  
   HTH...
  
  Dirk

 --
 alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com




-- 
If you have an apple and I have an apple and we exchange apples then you
and I will still each have one apple. But if you have an idea and I have one
idea and we exchange these ideas, then each of us will have two ideas. -
George Bernard Shaw


Re: [gentoo-user] kde 3.5 packages blocking each other

2009-06-13 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Saturday 13 June 2009 01:54:45 Francisco Ares wrote:
 Thanks a lot!

It's not completely obvious from Dirk's post (what he said is completely 
accurate though), but kde-3.5.10 will not receive monolithic ebuilds (dev 
decision). If you want kde-3.5.10, there is only one way to do it -

Unmerge your existing kde monolithic packages
Rememerge the new kde split packages

There's a good migration guide at gentoo.org, called Migrating to KDE split 
ebuilds or some such. A quick search will find it for you.



 

 Francisco

 On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 5:58 PM, Dirk Heinrichs 
dirk.heinri...@online.dewrote:
  Am Freitag 12 Juni 2009 22:45:49 schrieb Francisco Ares:
   And how do I tell if an ebuild is monolithic or not?
 
  The monolithic ones install larger parts of KDE, and usually have the
  same names as the original source packages offered at KDE.org.
 
  The split ebuilds, well, split those packages into their individual
  applications, so you have ebuilds for konqueror (which is also part of
  kdenetwork) or kmail (kdepim). In addition, there are the -meta
  ebuilds, which have the same name as the monolitic ones, but with -meta
  appended (kdepim-meta). Those usually install the same applications than
  monolithic ebuilds, but as split ebuilds.
 
  So, when you install kde, you get a complete KDE from monolithic ebuilds
  and
  when you install kde-meta, you get a complete KDE from split ebuilds.
 
  That's also the reason why they block each other. When you have kdepim
  installed, you already got kmail, so you shouldn't install kmail from the
  split ebuild again.
 
  HTH...
 
 Dirk

-- 
alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com



Re: [gentoo-user] kde 3.5 packages blocking each other

2009-06-12 Thread Dirk Heinrichs
Am Freitag 12 Juni 2009 22:24:26 schrieb Francisco Ares:

 It looks like there's some issue in some packages being 3.5.10 and all the
 rest being 3.5.9, but I have no keywords set in
 /etc/portage/packages.keywords - perhaps I should.

Partly. It seems to be a mix of split ebuilds and monolithic ones. You should 
decide which one to use. The other part is indeed a version mix, because the 
monolithic ebuilds are still at 3.5.9.

HTH...

Dirk


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Re: [gentoo-user] kde 3.5 packages blocking each other

2009-06-12 Thread Dirk Heinrichs
Am Freitag 12 Juni 2009 22:45:49 schrieb Francisco Ares:

 And how do I tell if an ebuild is monolithic or not?

The monolithic ones install larger parts of KDE, and usually have the same 
names as the original source packages offered at KDE.org.

The split ebuilds, well, split those packages into their individual 
applications, so you have ebuilds for konqueror (which is also part of 
kdenetwork) or kmail (kdepim). In addition, there are the -meta ebuilds, 
which have the same name as the monolitic ones, but with -meta appended 
(kdepim-meta). Those usually install the same applications than monolithic 
ebuilds, but as split ebuilds.

So, when you install kde, you get a complete KDE from monolithic ebuilds and 
when you install kde-meta, you get a complete KDE from split ebuilds.

That's also the reason why they block each other. When you have kdepim 
installed, you already got kmail, so you shouldn't install kmail from the 
split ebuild again.

HTH...

Dirk




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Re: [gentoo-user] kde 3.5 packages blocking each other

2009-06-12 Thread Francisco Ares
Thanks a lot!

Francisco

On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 5:58 PM, Dirk Heinrichs dirk.heinri...@online.dewrote:

 Am Freitag 12 Juni 2009 22:45:49 schrieb Francisco Ares:

  And how do I tell if an ebuild is monolithic or not?

 The monolithic ones install larger parts of KDE, and usually have the same
 names as the original source packages offered at KDE.org.

 The split ebuilds, well, split those packages into their individual
 applications, so you have ebuilds for konqueror (which is also part of
 kdenetwork) or kmail (kdepim). In addition, there are the -meta ebuilds,
 which have the same name as the monolitic ones, but with -meta appended
 (kdepim-meta). Those usually install the same applications than monolithic
 ebuilds, but as split ebuilds.

 So, when you install kde, you get a complete KDE from monolithic ebuilds
 and
 when you install kde-meta, you get a complete KDE from split ebuilds.

 That's also the reason why they block each other. When you have kdepim
 installed, you already got kmail, so you shouldn't install kmail from the
 split ebuild again.

 HTH...

Dirk





-- 
If you have an apple and I have an apple and we exchange apples then you
and I will still each have one apple. But if you have an idea and I have one
idea and we exchange these ideas, then each of us will have two ideas. -
George Bernard Shaw


Re: [gentoo-user] kde:3.5 how to phase out

2009-05-13 Thread Roy Wright
Dirk Heinrichs wrote:
 Am Dienstag, 12. Mai 2009 11:25:07 schrieb Helmut Jarausch:
 
 Furthermore, how to unmerge all of KDE:3.5, e.g.
 emerge --unmerge kde-base/kde-meta:3.5
 does not work.
 
 paludis --uninstall --with-dependencies =kdelibs-3.5.9
 

If you have openoffice installed, it will need to be compiled without
the kde use flag.  Also to compile it make sure you have a default boost
selected by using eselect boost.

Afterwards you may want to package.mask =kde-base/kdelibs-3.5*

A revdep-rebuild is probably in order too.

HTH,
Roy



Re: [gentoo-user] kde:3.5 how to phase out

2009-05-12 Thread Dale
Helmut Jarausch wrote:
 Hi,

 I'd like to phase out KDE:3.5. One reason is, that I cannot install
 both, 3.5 and 4.2 without using 'prefix'.

 For doing so, I need to find out which (installed) packages use which
 parts of KDE:3.5. Is there something better than unmerge all of KDE:3.5
 and let revdep-rebuild find out.

 Furthermore, how to unmerge all of KDE:3.5, e.g. 
 emerge --unmerge kde-base/kde-meta:3.5
 does not work.

 Many thanks for a hint,
 Helmut.

   

Did you install by using kde-meta or some of its friends?  If so,
unmerge the meta package then run emerge -p --depclean and make sure you
are not loosing anything you want to keep, then run revdep-rebuild to
make sure all is still sane.

Also, you can remove anything kde 3.5 in your world file, then run
depclean to remove it.  Keep in mind that the world file supports
version specific lines now.

I'm sure some other guru will come along with other ideas but one of
those should work.  May not be perfect but is anything ever perfect?

Dale

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Re: [gentoo-user] kde:3.5 how to phase out

2009-05-12 Thread Arttu V.
On 5/12/09, Helmut Jarausch jarau...@igpm.rwth-aachen.de wrote:
 Hi,

 I'd like to phase out KDE:3.5. One reason is, that I cannot install
 both, 3.5 and 4.2 without using 'prefix'.

 For doing so, I need to find out which (installed) packages use which
 parts of KDE:3.5. Is there something better than unmerge all of KDE:3.5
 and let revdep-rebuild find out.

 Furthermore, how to unmerge all of KDE:3.5, e.g.
 emerge --unmerge kde-base/kde-meta:3.5
 does not work.

Some of your questions are answered here, right on the top (I hope I
link to the up-to-date version and not the outdated one):

http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/desktop/kde/kde4-guide.xml
http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/desktop/kde/

I don't know if my advice beyond those links is of any use as I did it
all the wrong way -- didn't unmerge previous kde, just unmasked the
new kde versions, didn't use sets, still have USE=-kdeprefix etc.
Still, sky didn't fall on me, at least not until I unmasked the
then-unstable xorg 1.5 ...

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Re: [gentoo-user] kde:3.5 how to phase out

2009-05-12 Thread Jesús Guerrero

On Tue, May 12, 2009 11:25, Helmut Jarausch wrote:
 Hi,


 I'd like to phase out KDE:3.5. One reason is, that I cannot install
 both, 3.5 and 4.2 without using 'prefix'.

 For doing so, I need to find out which (installed) packages use which
 parts of KDE:3.5. Is there something better than unmerge all of KDE:3.5 and
 let revdep-rebuild find out.

How about this?

$ equery d kdelibs:3.5

 Furthermore, how to unmerge all of KDE:3.5, e.g.
 emerge --unmerge kde-base/kde-meta:3.5 does not work.

Unmerge whatever kde:3.5 packages you installed by hand then use
--depclean to clear the dependencies.

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Re: [gentoo-user] kde:3.5 how to phase out

2009-05-12 Thread Dirk Heinrichs
Am Dienstag, 12. Mai 2009 11:25:07 schrieb Helmut Jarausch:

 Furthermore, how to unmerge all of KDE:3.5, e.g.
 emerge --unmerge kde-base/kde-meta:3.5
 does not work.

paludis --uninstall --with-dependencies =kdelibs-3.5.9

HTH...

Dirk


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Re: [gentoo-user] kde:3.5 dependency mess

2009-05-06 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Mittwoch 06 Mai 2009, Helmut Jarausch wrote:
 Hi,

 kde:3.5 poses me a Gordian knot which I cannot cut.

 Besides the whole kde:4.2 packages I still have kde:3.5 packages.

 Trying to re-emerge e.g. kde-base/kdepim:3.5 I get blocking packages.
 Many packages are built with kde-base/kdelibs-3.5.10-r2 but some
 are in use with were built with kde-base/kdelibs-3.5.9-r4, e.g.
 app-office/kformula When I try to re-emerge app-office/kformula separately
 it fails
 with some linker errors.

 So, how can I cut my Gordian knot? (except re-emerging the whole
 kde-meta:3.5)


 Many thanks for a hint,
 Helmut.

get rid of 3.5.9. Install 4.2 with kdeprefix. Reemerge everything that is 
broken afterwards.




Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 3.5

2006-05-29 Thread Daniel
On Saturday 27 May 2006 13:37, Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote:
 kmail crashes me a lot because of this:
 it tries to fetch mails from a defunc server (it is still in the
 prefs, because it will be back in some weeks - and I don't know the
 pw anymore). When I close kmail, while it waits for the timeouts:
 crash
 Or it won't really stop (kmail and kio_pop3 still visible in ps aux),
 advantage, when I start kmail again, I don't have to type in the
 kwallet-pw ...

These are all probably useful... but not to the gentoo-user list.  If 
you want the bugs fixed, do go to http://bugs.kde.org/ and post them 
(check to see if they've already been posted first though eh?)  Only 
then will your problems get the attention they need.

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Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 3.5

2006-05-29 Thread Hemmann, Volker Armin
On Monday 29 May 2006 22:52, Daniel wrote:
 On Saturday 27 May 2006 13:37, Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote:
  kmail crashes me a lot because of this:
  it tries to fetch mails from a defunc server (it is still in the
  prefs, because it will be back in some weeks - and I don't know the
  pw anymore). When I close kmail, while it waits for the timeouts:
  crash
  Or it won't really stop (kmail and kio_pop3 still visible in ps aux),
  advantage, when I start kmail again, I don't have to type in the
  kwallet-pw ...

 These are all probably useful... but not to the gentoo-user list.  If
 you want the bugs fixed, do go to http://bugs.kde.org/ and post them
 (check to see if they've already been posted first though eh?)  Only
 then will your problems get the attention they need.


people started to talk about kde bugs, so I mentioned the ones, I hit.

Nothing else.

Oh, and the logout bug IS in the bugzilla. For ages now. Without any advances.
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Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 3.5

2006-05-27 Thread Anthony E. Caudel

Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote:

On Saturday 27 May 2006 06:04, Anthony E. Caudel wrote:


I see that KDE 3.5 finally made it out of testing.  I plan to upgrade to
it but since it is slotted, I'll have to unmerge 3.4 first.  No problem,
but I think I will then have to recompile all non-kde but related apps,
such a k3b, that were compiled against the old libraries.  Right?



em, why do you think you'll have to unmerge 3.4?
They can coexist very nicely.


True.  But why keep 3.4?

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Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 3.5

2006-05-27 Thread Richard Fish

On 5/26/06, Anthony E. Caudel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I see that KDE 3.5 finally made it out of testing.  I plan to upgrade to
it but since it is slotted, I'll have to unmerge 3.4 first.


You don't need to unmerge 3.4 _first_.  You can do it after you have
merged 3.5, although even then it is optional.


Does the fact that it does not use the kde
flag guarantee that it does not need the kde libraries?


No, like all USE flags, the kde flag is only for *optional* kde
support.  There are some applications that will not work at all
without KDE, even though they are not part of KDE.  Those applications
will not have a kde use flag, but will bring in whatever parts of kde
they depend on.  Examples are koffice, kdevelop, kmplayer, kaffeine,
...

equery depends kdelibs | grep -v kde-base/


Course, I guess I could blithely go along and as apps crash, I'll find
the others.


revdep-rebuild

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Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 3.5

2006-05-27 Thread Anthony E. Caudel

Richard Fish wrote:

On 5/26/06, Anthony E. Caudel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


I see that KDE 3.5 finally made it out of testing.  I plan to upgrade to
it but since it is slotted, I'll have to unmerge 3.4 first.



You don't need to unmerge 3.4 _first_.  You can do it after you have
merged 3.5, although even then it is optional.


Does the fact that it does not use the kde
flag guarantee that it does not need the kde libraries?



No, like all USE flags, the kde flag is only for *optional* kde
support.  There are some applications that will not work at all
without KDE, even though they are not part of KDE.  Those applications
will not have a kde use flag, but will bring in whatever parts of kde
they depend on.  Examples are koffice, kdevelop, kmplayer, kaffeine,
...

equery depends kdelibs | grep -v kde-base/


Course, I guess I could blithely go along and as apps crash, I'll find
the others.



revdep-rebuild

-Richard


Ah, thanks.  revdep-rebuild it is.

Tony

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Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 3.5

2006-05-27 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Fri, 26 May 2006 23:04:12 -0500, Anthony E. Caudel wrote:

 I see that KDE 3.5 finally made it out of testing.  I plan to upgrade
 to it but since it is slotted, I'll have to unmerge 3.4 first.

The whole point of slotting is that you *don't* have to unmerge 3.4
first. You can continue to use 3.4 while merging 3.5, then you'll be
given the choice of 3.4 or 3.5 in KDm's menu. Only unmerge 3.4 when
you're sure everything is OK with 3.5 and you no longer need it.


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Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 3.5

2006-05-27 Thread Hemmann, Volker Armin
On Saturday 27 May 2006 08:03, Anthony E. Caudel wrote:
 Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote:
  On Saturday 27 May 2006 06:04, Anthony E. Caudel wrote:
 I see that KDE 3.5 finally made it out of testing.  I plan to upgrade to
 it but since it is slotted, I'll have to unmerge 3.4 first.  No problem,
 but I think I will then have to recompile all non-kde but related apps,
 such a k3b, that were compiled against the old libraries.  Right?
 
  em, why do you think you'll have to unmerge 3.4?
  They can coexist very nicely.

 True.  But why keep 3.4?

because 3.5 has some bugs - and some people have less problems tolerate this 
bugs than others.
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Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 3.5

2006-05-27 Thread fire-eyes
On Saturday 27 May 2006 10:41, Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote:
  True.  But why keep 3.4?

 because 3.5 has some bugs - and some people have less problems tolerate
 this bugs than others.

I must agree here. I have been using the 3.5 ebuilds since they entered the 
tree many months) on two systems.

I still consider it buggy, and am quite surprised they have gone stable in 
gentoo.

While they are not major issues, they are definately annoyances: One is that 
konqueror has an interestingly difficult time scrolling up and down pages if 
they have text boxes which are populated with text in them.

Another is that kmail crashes. A *LOT*. A minimum of two times a day on me, I 
have seen as high as five.

I do not consider 3.5 stable

It is a wise idea to use the slotting feature, and keep 3.4.

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Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 3.5

2006-05-27 Thread Hemmann, Volker Armin
On Saturday 27 May 2006 17:01, fire-eyes wrote:
 On Saturday 27 May 2006 10:41, Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote:
   True.  But why keep 3.4?
 
  because 3.5 has some bugs - and some people have less problems tolerate
  this bugs than others.

 I must agree here. I have been using the 3.5 ebuilds since they entered the
 tree many months) on two systems.

 I still consider it buggy, and am quite surprised they have gone stable
 in gentoo.

 While they are not major issues, they are definately annoyances: One is
 that konqueror has an interestingly difficult time scrolling up and down
 pages if they have text boxes which are populated with text in them.

 Another is that kmail crashes. A *LOT*. A minimum of two times a day on me,
 I have seen as high as five.

kmail crashes me a lot because of this:
it tries to fetch mails from a defunc server (it is still in the prefs, 
because it will be back in some weeks - and I don't know the pw anymore). 
When I close kmail, while it waits for the timeouts: crash
Or it won't really stop (kmail and kio_pop3 still visible in ps aux), 
advantage, when I start kmail again, I don't have to type in the 
kwallet-pw ... 

Oh, and logout most of the times only works on the second try ...

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Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 3.5

2006-05-26 Thread Manuel McLure

Anthony E. Caudel wrote:
I see that KDE 3.5 finally made it out of testing.  I plan to upgrade to 
it but since it is slotted, I'll have to unmerge 3.4 first.  No problem, 
but I think I will then have to recompile all non-kde but related apps, 
such a k3b, that were compiled against the old libraries.  Right?


Using equery useflag kde, I found k3b and amarok (and gnome-libs ).

So, my question is:  Is this all?  I can't believe these are all the 
semi-kde apps there are?  Does the fact that it does not use the kde 
flag guarantee that it does not need the kde libraries?


Course, I guess I could blithely go along and as apps crash, I'll find 
the others.


Just do a revdep-rebuild after merging 3.5 and unmerging 3.4 - that 
should rebuild anything that lost libraries.



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Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 3.5

2006-05-26 Thread Steven Susbauer


On Sat, 27 May 2006, Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote:

 On Saturday 27 May 2006 06:04, Anthony E. Caudel wrote:
  I see that KDE 3.5 finally made it out of testing.  I plan to upgrade to
  it but since it is slotted, I'll have to unmerge 3.4 first.  No problem,
  but I think I will then have to recompile all non-kde but related apps,
  such a k3b, that were compiled against the old libraries.  Right?

 em, why do you think you'll have to unmerge 3.4?
 They can coexist very nicely.


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Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 3.5 Disk insert feature

2006-02-14 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Mon, 13 Feb 2006 22:51:48 -0700, Ian wrote:

 I installed KDE 3.5 with the split ebuilds, emerging the minimum:
 konqueror, kdesktop, kcontrol, konsole, kicker, etc...
 I noticed that I dont get that dialog box that appears when KDE finds a
 new medium for data. (CD, Jumpdrive)
 Do you know what I should install to get it?

You need kde-base/kdebase-kioslaves and make sure you have 'hal' in USE.


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Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 3.5 and KAudiocreator

2006-02-12 Thread Stewart Taylor

Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:

Ah, yes, I remember that now, sorry for doubting you.  Funny, I used it at 
one time, but I don't need it now.  Instead I use the attached shell 
script after ripping, that you may modify for your purposes.




Thanks for the script, I'll give it a 
try, I had just started looking into 
writing a script for this very purpose 
so you saved me a bit of work. Thanks 
for the help.


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Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 3.5 and KAudiocreator

2006-02-11 Thread Stewart Taylor

Hi

Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:

Are you sure you are talking about KAudioCreator; that just rips and 
encodes cdda CDs?  If you are please tell me where this play list option 
is/was in the menus and dialogs.


Yes, KAudioCreator. The play list option 
was (V. 1.12 ) in Settings  Configure 
KAudioCreator  Encoder and it used to 
be between the encoded file location and 
encoder priority. I've since placed a 
bug report at bugs.kde.org to see if 
anyone else has this problem or if it is 
just me and Gentoo.


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Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 3.5 and KAudiocreator

2006-02-11 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
On Saturday 11 February 2006 02:48, Stewart Taylor 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote about 'Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 3.5 
and KAudiocreator':
 Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:
  Are you sure you are talking about KAudioCreator; that just rips and
  encodes cdda CDs?  If you are please tell me where this play list
  option is/was in the menus and dialogs.

 Yes, KAudioCreator. The play list option
 was (V. 1.12 ) in Settings  Configure
 KAudioCreator  Encoder and it used to
 be between the encoded file location and
 encoder priority.

Ah, yes, I remember that now, sorry for doubting you.  Funny, I used it at 
one time, but I don't need it now.  Instead I use the attached shell 
script after ripping, that you may modify for your purposes.

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Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 3.5 and KAudiocreator

2006-02-09 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
On Saturday 04 February 2006 08:16, Stewart Taylor 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote about '[gentoo-user] KDE 3.5 and 
KAudiocreator':

 Does anyone else have problems with the
 play list option in KAudioCreator 1.13
 as comes with KDE 3.5.

Are you sure you are talking about KAudioCreator; that just rips and 
encodes cdda CDs?  If you are please tell me where this play list option 
is/was in the menus and dialogs.

 The first time I had this
 problem was after updating from 3.4.
 Since then I have carried out a full,
 clean install with the same result.

I did have problems with KAudioCreator in 3.5, but I traced it down to some 
issue with my SATA CD-ROM not being read correctly by some of the kde 
ioslaves.  Multiple kernel upgrades and an upgrade to KDE 3.5.1 later and 
everything works fine.

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Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 3.5 : Kicker other ebuilds fail

2006-01-02 Thread Philip Webb
060101 Philip Webb wrote:
 On Monday 02 January 2006 00:02, Philip Webb wrote:
 I started to install KDE 3.5 (split) -- still ~x86 --  got Kdelibs done,
 then went on to Kdebase-startkde, which pulls in  17  dependencies.
 Some of them went thro' ok, but then Kicker refused as below; I tried
 others  Khelpcenter Kdebase-kioslaves Kdesu Ksplashml failed at the same
 point. I took time out to get my Docbook pkgs upto-date, but no change.
 I'll submit a bug report later today,
 but it's much better also to have the solution included as well (smile) !

I've submitted a bug report # 117433 .

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Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 3.5 : Kicker other ebuilds fail

2006-01-02 Thread Philip Webb
060102 Philip Webb wrote:
 On Monday 02 January 2006 00:02, Philip Webb wrote:
 I started to install KDE 3.5 (split) -- still ~x86 --  got Kdelibs done,
 then went on to Kdebase-startkde, which pulls in  17  dependencies.
 Some of them went thro' ok, but then Kicker refused as below; I tried
 others  Khelpcenter Kdebase-kioslaves Kdesu Ksplashml failed at the same
 point. I took time out to get my Docbook pkgs upto-date, but no change.
 I've submitted a bug report # 117433 .

There is in fact another bug 105297 which has a different subject,
so it's not obvious to find  many other users have fallen into the trap.
The solution is to upgrade Libxslt to 1.1.15 .
I've suggested that this should be added to deps for Kicker etc.

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Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 3.5 : Kicker other ebuilds fail

2006-01-02 Thread Philip Webb
060102 Philip Webb wrote:
 On Monday 02 January 2006 00:02, Philip Webb wrote:
 I started to install KDE 3.5 (split) -- still ~x86

And a final word: I've finished installing the many parts of KDE 3.5
-- the ones I want : it took  3 h 57 m  --  it seems to be working well
after a couple of bits of tuning  shows a little extra polish over 3.4.1 .

Thanks as always to the devs involved.

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Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 3.5 : Kicker other ebuilds fail

2006-01-01 Thread John Jolet


On Jan 1, 2006, at 9:02 AM, Philip Webb wrote:


Before I submit a bug report, has anyone had a similar experience ?
Does anyone have anything to suggest to try first ?

I did an emerge kdebase-startkde and didn't see any errors, but the  
kicker doesn't seem to exist...so maybe it failed and I just didn't  
notice.  I simply assumed it wasn't part of kdebase-startkde.
I started to install KDE 3.5 (split) -- still ~x86 --  got Kdelibs  
done,

then went on to Kdebase-startkde, which pulls in  17  dependencies.
Some of them went thro' ok, but then Kicker refused as below; I  
tried others
 Khelpcenter Kdebase-kioslaves Kdesu Ksplashml failed at the same  
point.

I took time out to get my Docbook pkgs upto-date, but no change.

I checked Bugs  Forum  found nothing directly on this nor any  
solution,

tho' a couple of people had run into it with Khelpcenter 3.4.1
(I have 3.4.1 installed  working perfectly well).

The relevant error lines for Kicker seem to be the following :

  make[2]: Entering directory `/z/tmp/portage/kicker-3.5.0/work/ 
kicker-3.5.0/doc'

  Making all in kicker
  make[3]: Entering directory `/z/tmp/portage/kicker-3.5.0/work/ 
kicker-3.5.0/doc/kicker'
  /usr/kde/3.5/bin/meinproc --check --cache index.cache.bz2 ./ 
index.docbook

  XPath error : Undefined variable
  compilation error: file /usr/kde/3.5/share/apps/ksgmltools2/ 
docbook/xsl/html/autotoc.xsl line 544 element div

  Attribute template class: failed to compile $titles

Other lines further down include :

  concat('ln-',$id,$html.ext)
  ...
  substring-before($stylesheets, ' ')
  ...
  unable to parse ./index.docbook

Anyone have thoughts or suggestions before I submit a bug report ?

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Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 3.5 : Kicker other ebuilds fail

2006-01-01 Thread Jason Stubbs
On Monday 02 January 2006 00:02, Philip Webb wrote:
 Before I submit a bug report, has anyone had a similar experience ?
 Does anyone have anything to suggest to try first ?

 I started to install KDE 3.5 (split) -- still ~x86 --  got Kdelibs done,
 then went on to Kdebase-startkde, which pulls in  17  dependencies.
 Some of them went thro' ok, but then Kicker refused as below; I tried
 others  Khelpcenter Kdebase-kioslaves Kdesu Ksplashml failed at the same
 point. I took time out to get my Docbook pkgs upto-date, but no change.

How do you define refused? Did it error out and drop you back to a prompt? 
If so, what were the last 20-30 lines of output before make stated there was 
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Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 3.5 : Kicker other ebuilds fail

2006-01-01 Thread Philip Webb
060102 Jason Stubbs wrote:
 On Monday 02 January 2006 00:02, Philip Webb wrote:
 I started to install KDE 3.5 (split) -- still ~x86 --  got Kdelibs done,
 then went on to Kdebase-startkde, which pulls in  17  dependencies.
 Some of them went thro' ok, but then Kicker refused as below; I tried
   
 others  Khelpcenter Kdebase-kioslaves Kdesu Ksplashml failed at the same
 point. I took time out to get my Docbook pkgs upto-date, but no change.
 How do you define refused?

refused to finish compiling

 Did it error out and drop you back to a prompt? 

Yes.

 If so, what were the last 20-30 lines of output
 before make stated there was an error?

I didn't want to bury the message under a long listing, but since you ask,
here is the whole thing from the end of the configure step
(this is for Ksplashml, but it's the same for each of the  4  packages):

Good - your configure finished. Start make now

make  all-recursive
make[1]: Entering directory 
`/z/tmp/portage/ksplashml-3.5.0/work/ksplashml-3.5.0'
Making all in doc
make[2]: Entering directory 
`/z/tmp/portage/ksplashml-3.5.0/work/ksplashml-3.5.0/doc'
Making all in ksplashml
make[3]: Entering directory 
`/z/tmp/portage/ksplashml-3.5.0/work/ksplashml-3.5.0/doc/ksplashml'
/usr/kde/3.5/bin/meinproc --check --cache index.cache.bz2 ./index.docbook
XPath error : Undefined variable
compilation error: file 
/usr/kde/3.5/share/apps/ksgmltools2/docbook/xsl/html/autotoc.xsl line 544 
element div
Attribute template class: failed to compile $titles
XPath error : Undefined variable
compilation error: file 
/usr/kde/3.5/share/apps/ksgmltools2/docbook/xsl/html/lists.xsl line 735 element 
ol
Attribute template type: failed to compile $numeration
XPath error : Undefined variable
compilation error: file 
/usr/kde/3.5/share/apps/ksgmltools2/docbook/xsl/html/callout.xsl line 158 
element img
Attribute template src: failed to compile $callout.graphics.path
XPath error : Undefined variable
compilation error: file 
/usr/kde/3.5/share/apps/ksgmltools2/docbook/xsl/html/callout.xsl line 158 
element img
Attribute template alt: failed to compile $conum
XPath error : Undefined variable
compilation error: file 
/usr/kde/3.5/share/apps/ksgmltools2/docbook/xsl/html/formal.xsl line 19 element 
div
Attribute template class: failed to compile $class
XPath error : Undefined variable
compilation error: file 
/usr/kde/3.5/share/apps/ksgmltools2/docbook/xsl/html/formal.xsl line 71 element 
div
Attribute template class: failed to compile $class
XPath error : Undefined variable
compilation error: file 
/usr/kde/3.5/share/apps/ksgmltools2/docbook/xsl/html/inline.xsl line 856 
element a
Attribute template href: failed to compile $chunkbase
XPath error : Undefined variable
compilation error: file 
/usr/kde/3.5/share/apps/ksgmltools2/docbook/xsl/html/inline.xsl line 934 
element code
Attribute template class: failed to compile $class
XPath error : Undefined variable
compilation error: file 
/usr/kde/3.5/share/apps/ksgmltools2/docbook/xsl/html/html.xsl line 24 element a
Attribute template name: failed to compile $id
XPath error : Undefined variable
compilation error: file 
/usr/kde/3.5/share/apps/ksgmltools2/docbook/xsl/html/index.xsl line 115 element 
a
Attribute template name: failed to compile $id
XPath error : Undefined variable
concat('ln-',$id,$html.ext)
^
compilation error: file 
/usr/kde/3.5/share/apps/ksgmltools2/docbook/xsl/html/titlepage.xsl line 475 
element a
Attribute template href: failed to compile concat('ln-',$id,$html.ext)
XPath error : Undefined variable
compilation error: file 
/usr/kde/3.5/share/apps/ksgmltools2/docbook/xsl/html/titlepage.xsl line 502 
element a
Attribute template name: failed to compile $id
XPath error : Undefined variable
compilation error: file 
/usr/kde/3.5/share/apps/ksgmltools2/docbook/xsl/html/titlepage.xsl line 780 
element a
Attribute template name: failed to compile $id
XPath error : Undefined variable
compilation error: file 
/usr/kde/3.5/share/apps/ksgmltools2/docbook/xsl/html/docbook.xsl line 137 
element base
Attribute template href: failed to compile $html.base
XPath error : Undefined variable
substring-before($stylesheets, ' ')
 ^
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/usr/kde/3.5/share/apps/ksgmltools2/docbook/xsl/html/docbook.xsl line 197 
element link
Attribute template href: failed to compile substring-before($stylesheets, ' ')
XPath error : Undefined variable
compilation error: file 
/usr/kde/3.5/share/apps/ksgmltools2/customization/kde-navig.xsl line 43 element 
div
Attribute template style: failed to compile $kde.common
XPath error : Undefined variable
compilation error: file 
/usr/kde/3.5/share/apps/ksgmltools2/customization/kde-navig.xsl line 47 element 
img
Attribute template src: failed to compile $kde.common
XPath error : Undefined variable
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element div

Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 3.5 : Kicker other ebuilds fail

2006-01-01 Thread Philip Webb
060101 Philip Webb wrote:
 On Monday 02 January 2006 00:02, Philip Webb wrote:
 I started to install KDE 3.5 (split) -- still ~x86 --  got Kdelibs done,
 then went on to Kdebase-startkde, which pulls in  17  dependencies.
 Some of them went thro' ok, but then Kicker refused as below; I tried
 others  Khelpcenter Kdebase-kioslaves Kdesu Ksplashml failed at the same
 point. I took time out to get my Docbook pkgs upto-date, but no change.

The problem seems to arise from  /usr/kde/3.5/bin/meinproc ,
which is a binary installed by Kdelibs.  Using Gvim, I've looked inside it
 there are some lines which may throw light on what is going wrong
(I've collapsed multiple instances of ^@):

  [EMAIL PROTECTED]@stylesheet xsl[EMAIL PROTECTED] to [EMAIL 
PROTECTED]@[EMAIL PROTECTED] file[EMAIL PROTECTED] whole document to [EMAIL 
PROTECTED]@[EMAIL PROTECTED] file[EMAIL PROTECTED] dir[EMAIL PROTECTED] the 
srcdir, for [EMAIL PROTECTED] key=value[EMAIL PROTECTED]@The file to [EMAIL 
PROTECTED]@[EMAIL PROTECTED] Translator for [EMAIL PROTECTED]: 397941 [EMAIL 
PROTECTED]@[EMAIL PROTECTED]@[EMAIL PROTECTED]@[EMAIL PROTECTED]@[EMAIL 
PROTECTED]%s  %d  %d
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] to parse %s 
 

[EMAIL PROTECTED]@FILENAME [EMAIL PROTECTED]@[EMAIL PROTECTED]/[EMAIL 
PROTECTED]/kde-chunk.xsl^@' lacks a '='[EMAIL PROTECTED] tuple '[EMAIL 
PROTECTED]@customization/[EMAIL PROTECTED]@/usr/bin/xmllint^@ --catalogs 
--valid --noout ^@ 2[EMAIL PROTECTED]'t find [EMAIL PROTECTED]@' is not 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] '^@' is not a file.^@' does not [EMAIL PROTECTED] whole 
document to [EMAIL PROTECTED] a ht://dig compatible [EMAIL PROTECTED] the 
document for [EMAIL PROTECTED] a cache file for the [EMAIL PROTECTED] to pass 
to the [EMAIL PROTECTED] of the wrong type, root node != [EMAIL PROTECTED] not 
write to cache file [EMAIL PROTECTED]/xml-dtd-4.1.2/[EMAIL 
PROTECTED]@î^D^H¨¾^D^HØ·^D^Hh»^D^Hx¶^D^Hèµ^D^H(º^D^Hxº^D^H^Hµ^D^H~H'^E^Hø^V^E^H°'^E^H6QGList^@/FILENAME[EMAIL
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PROTECTED]@#%d;[EMAIL PROTECTED]@ISO [EMAIL PROTECTED]/customization/[EMAIL 
PROTECTED]/docbook/xml-dtd-4.2/docbook.cat^@/docbook/xml-dtd-4.2/docbook.cat^@meta
 http-equiv=Content-Type cont!
 ent=text/html; charset=%1^@meta http-equiv=Content-Type 
content=text/html; charset=utf-8[EMAIL PROTECTED] Only IO_ReadOnly and 
IO_WriteOnly [EMAIL PROTECTED] mode [EMAIL PROTECTED]@12KBzip2Filter^@

The error message from the Kicker ebuild refers to 'meinproc'
 a failure to find an index file, which the above says it can't create.

Does this strike any chords with anyone ?

I'll submit a bug report later today,
but it's much better also to have the solution included as well (smile) !

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Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 3.5 : Kicker other ebuilds fail

2006-01-01 Thread Abhay Kedia
On Sunday 01 January 2006 20:32, Philip Webb wrote:

 I started to install KDE 3.5 (split) -- still ~x86 --  got Kdelibs done,
 then went on to Kdebase-startkde
[snip]
   ...
   unable to parse ./index.docbook

Just a shot in the dark. Did you enable kdeenablefinal use flag AFTER you 
compiled kdelibs?

Regards,
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Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 3.5 : Kicker other ebuilds fail

2006-01-01 Thread Abhay Kedia
On Monday 02 January 2006 00:31, Philip Webb wrote:

 No, but I just tried it with Khelpcenter  it made no difference.
 The problem seems to be in Kdelibs, as my most recent message outlined.

Can you give output of emerge -pv kdelibs  emerge -pv kdebase-startkde ?

Regards,
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Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 3.5 : Kicker other ebuilds fail

2006-01-01 Thread Philip Webb
060102 Abhay Kedia wrote:
 Can you give output of emerge -pv kdelibs  emerge -pv kdebase-startkde ?
 
These are the packages that I would merge, in order:

Calculating dependencies ...done!
[ebuild   R   ] kde-base/kdelibs-3.5.0-r1  +acl -alsa -arts +cups -debug -doc 
-jpeg2k -kdeenablefinal -kerberos -openexr +spell +ssl +tiff -xinerama 
-zeroconf 0 kB

Total size of downloads: 0 kB

These are the packages that I would merge, in order:

Calculating dependencies ...done!
[ebuild  NS   ] kde-base/khelpcenter-3.5.0  -arts -debug -kdeenablefinal 
-kdexdeltas -xinerama 0 kB
[ebuild  NS   ] kde-base/kdesu-3.5.0  -arts -debug -kdeenablefinal -kdexdeltas 
-xinerama 0 kB
[ebuild  NS   ] kde-base/kicker-3.5.0  -arts -debug -kdeenablefinal -kdexdeltas 
-xinerama 0 kB
[ebuild  NS   ] kde-base/kcontrol-3.5.0  -arts -debug -ieee1394 -kdeenablefinal 
-kdexdeltas -logitech-mouse +opengl +ssl -xinerama 0 kB
[ebuild  NS   ] kde-base/kdm-3.5.0  -arts -debug -kdeenablefinal -kdexdeltas 
+pam -xinerama 0 kB
[ebuild  NS   ] kde-base/kdesktop-3.5.0  -arts -debug -kdeenablefinal 
-kdexdeltas -xinerama 0 kB
[ebuild  NS   ] kde-base/ksplashml-3.5.0  -arts -debug -kdeenablefinal 
-kdexdeltas -xinerama 0 kB
[ebuild  NS   ] kde-base/kdebase-startkde-3.5.0  -arts -debug -kdeenablefinal 
-kdexdeltas -xinerama 0 kB

Total size of downloads: 0 kB

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Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 3.5 media manager problem

2005-12-19 Thread Daniel Heemann
On Monday 19 December 2005 20:12, Roy Wright wrote:
 Howdy,

 Just upgraded KDE to 3.5 and have a minor problem.
 When I start KDE with a SM memory card installed
 in my USB reader, a removable media icon shows on
 the desktop.  If I remove the memory card, the icon
 goes away.  If I reinsert it, then the icon reappears
 and I get the A new medium has been detected.  What
 do you want to do? dialog box.

 So far so good.

 The problem starts when I want to open the memory.

 If I choose open from the dialog or just click on the
 memory's desktop icon, I get the following error box:

 Error - Konqueror
 Could not mount device.
 The reported error was:
 mount: can't find /dev/sde1 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab

 If I right click on the memory's desktop icon and choose
 mount, I get the following error box:

 Error - kio_media_mounthelper
 mount: can't find /dev/sde1 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
 Please check that the device is plugged correctly.


Add the user to the plugdev group.

Regards

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Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 3.5 media manager problem [solved]

2005-12-19 Thread Roy Wright

Daniel Heemann wrote:


Add the user to the plugdev group.

 


That worked!

Thank you,
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Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 3.5

2005-12-02 Thread Dale
Neil Bothwick wrote:

I use kdm and can select what version of KDE I want to login to.  I also
used that to select between KDE, Gnome, IceWM etc when I was testing the
waters.  Just thought you would like to know that.  Kept me from having
to edit rc.conf to pick what GUI I wanted to use.



rc.conf doesn't set the GUI you use, it only sets which display manager
is run. The display manager is then used to choose the window manager.
  

Then what does this mean?

On Thu, 01 Dec 2005 18:41:52 +0530, Mrugesh Karnik wrote:

  

 I just did emerge --udpate --deep world. It slotted 3.4 and 3.5, so I 
 first cleared out my distfiles to free up some space! Then, edited 
 /etc/rc.conf to set XSESSION=kde-3.5.


According to that you can tell it KDE and what version.  I'm confused
again.  Don't worry, it's normal, for me anyway.

Dale
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Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 3.5

2005-12-02 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Fri, 02 Dec 2005 03:17:18 -0600, Dale wrote:

 Neil Bothwick wrote:
 
 I use kdm and can select what version of KDE I want to login to.  I
 also used that to select between KDE, Gnome, IceWM etc when I was
 testing the waters.  Just thought you would like to know that.  Kept
 me from having to edit rc.conf to pick what GUI I wanted to use.
 
 
 
 rc.conf doesn't set the GUI you use, it only sets which display manager
 is run. The display manager is then used to choose the window manager.
   
 
 Then what does this mean?
 
 On Thu, 01 Dec 2005 18:41:52 +0530, Mrugesh Karnik wrote:
 
   
 
  I just did emerge --udpate --deep world. It slotted 3.4 and 3.5, so
  I first cleared out my distfiles to free up some space! Then,
  edited /etc/rc.conf to set XSESSION=kde-3.5.
 
 
 According to that you can tell it KDE and what version.  I'm confused
 again.  Don't worry, it's normal, for me anyway.

Sorry, my reply was a bit confusing. I was referring to the
DISPLAYMANAGER setting and assumed you were, since you use kdm. If you
set the use of gdm or kdm in DISPLAYMANAGER then XSESSION is ignored, so
each user chooses their window manager when they log in. XSESSION is only
used with xdm or startx.


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Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 3.5

2005-12-02 Thread Dale
Nagatoro wrote:


 As far as I know KDE 3.5 is considered stable but the ebuilds that
 install it in gentoo are not hence the ~arch keyword.


Well, I'm not one to complain, they know best, but I do wish they would
add it so we can emerge it.  I've been waiting for this update.

I say that and I am compiling OOo at the moment but I can download KDE
while I wait.

Anybody know when they will release it in portage?  This weekend maybe?

Dale
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Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 3.5

2005-12-02 Thread Uwe Klosa

I'm using it for 8 hours now. No problems so far. :)

Cheers
Uwe

Thiago Lüttig wrote:

Hi, someone has installed the kde 3.5  how it´s running ??

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Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 3.5

2005-12-02 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
On Friday 02 December 2005 08:12 am, Dale wrote:
 Nagatoro wrote:
  As far as I know KDE 3.5 is considered stable but the ebuilds that
  install it in gentoo are not hence the ~arch keyword.

 Well, I'm not one to complain, they know best, but I do wish they
 would add it so we can emerge it.  I've been waiting for this update.

 I say that and I am compiling OOo at the moment but I can download
 KDE while I wait.

 Anybody know when they will release it in portage?  This weekend
 maybe?

Once an emerge get into the portage tree, the standard (and rarely, if 
ever violated) waiting time before they become stable is 30 days.

I've installed a few kde-3.5 packages without problem.  I have a friend 
that's been running it since beta 2.  Since you seem to be very 
interested in this package, I encourage you to unmask it by adding 
'=cat-egory/package-3.5* ~x86' to your /etc/portage/package.keywords 
for each of the kde-3.5 packages you want to install.  With the new 
style meta ebuilds you can install package by package OR try and do the 
whole thing by emerging kde-meta.  You'll still have to add each 
package to your /etc/portage/package.keywords.

The whole point of ~arch is testing, bug reports will help refine the 
ebuilds.

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Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 3.5

2005-12-02 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Fri, 02 Dec 2005 07:12:04 -0600, Dale wrote:

 Anybody know when they will release it in portage?  This weekend maybe?

It is already in portage, you only have to unmask it to install. It will
probably be a while before the builds are marked stable, the normal delay
is 30 days.


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Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 3.5

2005-12-01 Thread Dale
Thiago Lüttig wrote:

 Hi, someone has installed the kde 3.5  how it´s running ??

According to the forums, some have installed it already.  It appears to
be doing OK, considering it is not official yet.  ;)  I'm stuck
downloading Open Office so I'm waiting before I at least download it.

Dale
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Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 3.5

2005-12-01 Thread Mrugesh Karnik

Thiago Lüttig wrote:

Hi, someone has installed the kde 3.5  how it´s running ??

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I should have it running in a couple of hours. I'll let you know then.

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Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 3.5

2005-12-01 Thread Thiago Lüttig
how do you installed it ? i mean, the emerge parameters ?? :D
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Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 3.5

2005-12-01 Thread Uwe Klosa

I'm compiling 3.5. There 102 update for my system. So itäll take a while. I 
will write more as soon i can start it.

Cheers
Uwe

Thiago Lüttig wrote:

Hi, someone has installed the kde 3.5  how it´s running ??

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Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 3.5

2005-12-01 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Thu, 01 Dec 2005 05:45:33 -0600, Dale wrote:

 According to the forums, some have installed it already.  It appears to
 be doing OK, considering it is not official yet.  ;)  I'm stuck
 downloading Open Office so I'm waiting before I at least download it.

It was released two days ago according to the KDE web site. I've been
using it since beta1 and it works well. From rc2 onwards it has been rock
solid.


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Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 3.5

2005-12-01 Thread fire-eyes
Thiago Lüttig wrote:
 Hi, someone has installed the kde 3.5  how it´s running ??

I have tried to install kde-meta-3.5.0, however I get problems while
merging kdetalk-3.5.0 . I am not sure yet if I am alone on this one.

http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=114078
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Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 3.5

2005-12-01 Thread Hemmann, Volker Armin
On Thursday 01 December 2005 12:12, Thiago Lüttig wrote:
 Hi, someone has installed the kde 3.5  how it´s running ??

yes I have.

It runs perfectly.

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Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 3.5

2005-12-01 Thread Uwe Klosa

I'm sorry, but I can't recall it. I did not log this information. :(

/Uwe

Dale wrote:

Uwe Klosa wrote:



I'm compiling 3.5. There 102 update for my system. So itäll take a
while. I will write more as soon i can start it.

Cheers
Uwe



You wouldn't happen to recall how many MBs the downloads for KDE were
would you?  I know there are a lot of packages but it usually takes me a
couple nights to get it all, like OOo does.  Sorry dial-up!!  I don't
want to try to unmask all that.  May bork something.  O_O  I am still
trying to get OOo anyway.

Dale
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Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 3.5

2005-12-01 Thread Mrugesh Karnik

Thiago Lüttig wrote:

how do you installed it ? i mean, the emerge parameters ?? :D


I just did emerge --udpate --deep world. It slotted 3.4 and 3.5, so I 
first cleared out my distfiles to free up some space! Then, edited 
/etc/rc.conf to set XSESSION=kde-3.5. After restarting 
/etc/init.d/xdm, kdm-3.5 came up with entries for both 3.4 and 3.5. Some 
packages are still being compiled. I'll keep 3.4 till all of them are 
compiled and then unmerge 3.4.


3.5 is working just fine here. The only thing that went wrong is that it 
doesn't show my pop-up panel on the right hand side of the screen. The 
one at the bottom works just fine.


Regards,
Mrugesh
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Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 3.5

2005-12-01 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Thu, 01 Dec 2005 06:24:33 -0600, Dale wrote:

 You wouldn't happen to recall how many MBs the downloads for KDE were
 would you?

147MB here.

 I know there are a lot of packages but it usually takes me a
 couple nights to get it all, like OOo does.  Sorry dial-up!!  I don't
 want to try to unmask all that.  May bork something.

You won't bork anything by unmasking only. then use emerge -f to fetch
the files. Or download them from your nearest KDE mirror and put them
in $DISTDIR.


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Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 3.5

2005-12-01 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Thu, 01 Dec 2005 18:41:52 +0530, Mrugesh Karnik wrote:

 I just did emerge --udpate --deep world. It slotted 3.4 and 3.5, so I 
 first cleared out my distfiles to free up some space! Then, edited 
 /etc/rc.conf to set XSESSION=kde-3.5.

Use XSESSION=kde and it will always use the latest version.

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RE: [gentoo-user] KDE 3.5

2005-12-01 Thread Michael Kintzios

 -Original Message-
 From: Mrugesh Karnik [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: 01 December 2005 13:12
 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
 Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 3.5
 
 
 Thiago Lüttig wrote:
  how do you installed it ? i mean, the emerge parameters ?? :D
 
 I just did emerge --udpate --deep world. It slotted 3.4 and 3.5, so I 
 first cleared out my distfiles to free up some space! Then, edited 
 /etc/rc.conf to set XSESSION=kde-3.5. After restarting 
 /etc/init.d/xdm, kdm-3.5 came up with entries for both 3.4 
 and 3.5. Some 
 packages are still being compiled. I'll keep 3.4 till all of them are 
 compiled and then unmerge 3.4.

If you have an old monolithic KDE install (in my case KDE-3.2.x) and
would like to unmerge it along with all the kde 3.2.x packages and
exclusive dependencies to save some space, how would you do it?  How
could one ensure that there will be no apps/deps out there, which will
try to re-emerge this old version afresh?
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Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 3.5

2005-12-01 Thread Dale
Neil Bothwick wrote:

You won't bork anything by unmasking only. then use emerge -f to fetch
the files. Or download them from your nearest KDE mirror and put them
in $DISTDIR.


  

I would bork something.  ;)  Trust me.  It would likely not even boot
anymore.  LOL

Dale
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Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 3.5

2005-12-01 Thread Martins Steinbergs
On Thursday 01 December 2005 13:12, Thiago Lüttig wrote:
 Hi, someone has installed the kde 3.5  how it“s running ??


upgraded (~amd64) app by app, then it apeared slotet, spent some time 
unmerging all kde 3.4* parts
runing it for 10 hours, no problems noticed. dont know is there better 
performance.  ok, so far dont like konquerors ad bloking feature, will look 
for transparent gif to replace ads, not the default red circle


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Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 3.5

2005-12-01 Thread Kumar Golap

Also, after unmerging KDE 3.4, I had to rebuild all the other appsthat were built for 
3.4 viz. konversation, amarok, kdiff3, krename,kio-locate, krusader, kmldonkey, ktorrent, tellico, kchmviewer etc etcetc.

Would not the command revdep-rebuild do this for you ?
Just need to clarify before jumping in to kde-3.5 too.
Thanks

Kumar



Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 3.5

2005-12-01 Thread Kevin Hanson

Michael Kintzios wrote:


If you have an old monolithic KDE install (in my case KDE-3.2.x) and
would like to unmerge it along with all the kde 3.2.x packages and
exclusive dependencies to save some space, how would you do it?  How
could one ensure that there will be no apps/deps out there, which will
try to re-emerge this old version afresh?
 


I have a script that does this (found on this forum a while ago):

for x in `ls /usr/portage/kde-base`; do
 if [ $x != CVS ]; then
   echo -n =kde-base/$x-3.2* 
 fi
done |xargs emerge -Cv

Cheers,
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Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 3.5

2005-12-01 Thread Mrugesh Karnik

Kumar Golap wrote:





Also, after unmerging KDE 3.4, I had to rebuild all the other apps
that were built for 3.4 viz. konversation, amarok, kdiff3, krename,
kio-locate, krusader, kmldonkey, ktorrent, tellico, kchmviewer etc etc
etc.



Would  not the command revdep-rebuild do this for you ?
Just need to clarify before jumping in to kde-3.5 too.

Thanks

Kumar



Actually, turns out that it was the moodin engine that required the 
rebuild. Rest were rather unnecessary. Anyway. I didn't try revdep-rebuild.


amaroK failed to compile with visualization support with KDE 3.5. 
Tellico failed as well. Mhmmm.


Mrugesh


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Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 3.5

2005-12-01 Thread Rafael Fernández López
Hi !!

I'm just finishing emerging lots of updates and KDE of course. I'll tell
you. I've seen that KDE 3.5 is slotted, and I'd like to uninstall 3.4
version, but I've got installed non-monolithic package, so there are lots
of dependencies and apps that are not on kde-base, and I'd like to know
how to uninstall it succesffully.

for x in `ls /usr/portage/kde-base`; do
  if [ $x != CVS ]; then
echo -n =kde-base/$x-3.2* 
  fi
done |xargs emerge -Cv



Thanks,
Rafael Fernández López.
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Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 3.5

2005-12-01 Thread Dale
Hi,

Just to make sure I get this right, when I upgrade to KDE 3.5, KDE 3.4
will still be installed right?  This is how it was done in the past but
I don't want to loose 3.4 until I get used to 3.5 and make sure it will
work OK.

I use kdm and can select what version of KDE I want to login to.  I also
used that to select between KDE, Gnome, IceWM etc when I was testing the
waters.  Just thought you would like to know that.  Kept me from having
to edit rc.conf to pick what GUI I wanted to use.

Dale
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Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 3.5

2005-12-01 Thread Robert Crawford
Correct. Just to be sure, do emerge -up kde first, and if NS (new slot) is 
before each kde package, you're ready to go. Also it's a good idea to do a :

cp -a /home/user/.kde3.4 .kde.old 

for a backup of your user configs. Maybe also back up a few config files 
in /usr/kde/3.4/share/config.  Really, upgrading to 3.5 is painless and 
simple.

Robert Crawford

On Thu December 1 2005 7:31 pm, Dale wrote:
 Hi,

 Just to make sure I get this right, when I upgrade to KDE 3.5, KDE 3.4
 will still be installed right?  This is how it was done in the past but
 I don't want to loose 3.4 until I get used to 3.5 and make sure it will
 work OK.

 I use kdm and can select what version of KDE I want to login to.  I also
 used that to select between KDE, Gnome, IceWM etc when I was testing the
 waters.  Just thought you would like to know that.  Kept me from having
 to edit rc.conf to pick what GUI I wanted to use.

 Dale

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Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 3.5

2005-12-01 Thread Dale
Robert Crawford wrote:

Correct. Just to be sure, do emerge -up kde first, and if NS (new slot) is 
before each kde package, you're ready to go. Also it's a good idea to do a :

cp -a /home/user/.kde3.4 .kde.old 

for a backup of your user configs. Maybe also back up a few config files 
in /usr/kde/3.4/share/config.  Really, upgrading to 3.5 is painless and 
simple.

Robert Crawford
  

Thanks for the info.  That was the way they did it in the past but I
wanted to make sure, you know, before I borked it up really bad.  If I'm
going to screw it up, I may as well know I'm going to do it good.  LOL 
Those back-ups sounds like a good idea.  I think it did it itself last
time though.  It was there at least and I didn't do it.  I was ignorant
then. 

Now to get OOo downloaded.  My ISP kicks me offline after 6 hours.  I'm
trying another number to see if it is any better.  If they don't fix it,
I may end up switching.  It's starting to get old.  I sent them a email
but have not heard back.  May have to call them.  They are just up the
street so I can go eye to eye if needed.  Hit them with a hammer to get
their attention.  o_O  Hit the server to if needed.  LOL

Dale
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