Re: [gentoo-user] Portage spokes again...

2016-12-21 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 21 Dec 2016 02:41:15 -0500, Philip Webb wrote: > 161221 Walter Dnes wrote: > > On Wed, Dec 21, 2016 at 05:25:20AM +0100, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote > >> sys-apps/systemd:0= required by (sys-apps/dbus-1.10.12:0/0::gentoo, > >> ebuild scheduled for merge) I hav

Re: [gentoo-user] systemd/dracut: Correctly boot using flash drive with LUKS key?

2018-11-16 Thread Andrew Udvare
> On 2018-11-16, at 08:16, Rich Freeman wrote: > > On Fri, Nov 16, 2018 at 12:11 AM Andrew Udvare wrote: >> >> - use key to decrypt root partition (systemd job in the first systemd >> launched within initramfs) >> ... >> Nov 16 00:01:52 limelight syste

[gentoo-user] Systemd-boot not compiling

2019-04-08 Thread Peter Humphrey
Hello list, Is anyone else having trouble emerging systemd-boot-241? This machine has a small rescue system as an alternative boot, and I get a mysterious error when I emerge the package. The end of the log shows this: [248/248] x86_64-pc-linux-gnu-gcc -o bootctl 'bootctl@exe

Re: [gentoo-user] NetworkManager problem after migrating to systemd

2012-10-30 Thread João Matos
2012/10/29 Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 4:42 PM, João Matos jaon...@gmail.com wrote: I found the solution a few hours ago here http://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/Systemd#PAM_support:_su.2C_sudo.2C_screen. .. . Now everything is fine :) About the packages

Re: [gentoo-user] NetworkManager problem after migrating to systemd

2012-10-30 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Tue, Oct 30, 2012 at 3:45 PM, João Matos jaon...@gmail.com wrote: 2012/10/29 Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 4:42 PM, João Matos jaon...@gmail.com wrote: I found the solution a few hours ago here http://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/Systemd#PAM_support:_su

Re: [gentoo-user] trouble downgrading systemd and virtual/udev

2013-09-25 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 10:00 PM, gottl...@nyu.edu wrote: On Wed, Sep 25 2013, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 5:24 PM, gottl...@nyu.edu wrote: I want to downgrade systemd from 207-r2 to 204 (highest stable). I currently have virtual/udev-206-r2 installed, which prevents

Re: [gentoo-user] going from systemd to udev

2014-02-04 Thread Joseph
On 02/04/14 18:38, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: On Tue, Feb 4, 2014 at 6:24 PM, Joseph syscon...@gmail.com wrote: On 02/04/14 18:03, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: On Tue, Feb 4, 2014 at 1:58 PM, Joseph syscon...@gmail.com wrote: Is it possible to go from systemd to udev? I don't like the way

Re: [gentoo-user] Debian just voted in systemd for default init system in jessie

2014-02-19 Thread Daniel Campbell
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 02/19/2014 04:50 AM, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Wed, 19 Feb 2014 04:34:35 -0600, Daniel Campbell wrote: How is putting systemd setting in a profile that a user has to consciously choose to use forcing anything on anyone? Profiles

Re: [gentoo-user] Systemd upower

2014-06-03 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Tue, Jun 3, 2014 at 9:14 AM, Silvio Siefke siefke_lis...@web.de wrote: Hello, mean this i must install now systemd? What can do when i not want systemd. The system what i have is good, i want not change to systemd. [ebuild U ~] sys-devel/gettext-0.19 [0.18.3.2] USE=acl cxx ncurses nls

Re: [gentoo-user] Systemd upower

2014-06-03 Thread Tom Wijsman
On Wed, 4 Jun 2014 01:06:52 +0300 Alon Bar-Lev alo...@gentoo.org wrote: Once again, you do not understand the claim. If a user of Gentoo chooses to use non systemd profile, it means that we need to make sure systemd will not be a valid option, ever. There is no such thing as a non systemd

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Is gnome becoming obligatory?

2017-12-12 Thread Wols Lists
On 12/12/17 18:55, Alan Mackenzie wrote: > You seem to know systemd reasonably well - maybe you've got it > installed and you're using it. Please tell me whether my suspicion > above (that systemd builds stuff into the system that is likely to be > superfluous to a user, and possibl

Re: [gentoo-user] How to repair a 'secondary Gentoo system'

2017-12-11 Thread Rich Freeman
On Mon, Dec 11, 2017 at 2:45 PM, David Haller <gen...@dhaller.de> wrote: > > On Mon, 11 Dec 2017, Helmut Jarausch wrote: >>Strangely enough, dmesg shows >> >>systemd-coredump[25375]: Failed to connect to coredump service: No such file > ^^

Re: [gentoo-user] can not mount USB stick as user

2014-02-05 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
: [ humongous snip ] 4. Using systemd is more than just emerging it; you need to change your init= line in grub-legacy or GRUB2 and reboot. The contents of /proc/1/comm is systemd? I only have this: cat /proc/1/comm init [ snip ] systemctl --all --full Failed to get D-Bus

Re: [gentoo-user] a few blockers I can't figure out

2015-08-31 Thread covici
I will put the related output below > > with inserted comments. I am using "unstable" gentooand I have masked > > ncurses-6 for the time being. Portage also wants to downgrade my > > systemd from 221(0/2) to 219_p112(0/2). > > > > [blocks B ] sys-apps/systemd[gu

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Au revoir, gnome-3.8

2013-08-07 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
stabilized yet. as in, there are no plans in keeping gnome 2.x available after gnome 3.8 stabilization. Am I correct in believing that gnome-3.8 (whether in testing as now, or stable later) requires init=systemd? I am converting an old ~amd64 machine to systemd for practice so that I can convert my

Re: [gentoo-user] can not mount USB stick as user

2014-02-05 Thread Joseph
On 02/05/14 14:02, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 1:55 PM, Joseph syscon...@gmail.com wrote: On 02/05/14 13:06, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 12:38 PM, Joseph syscon...@gmail.com wrote: [ humongous snip ] 4. Using systemd is more than just emerging

Re: [gentoo-user] Debian just voted in systemd for default init system in jessie

2014-02-18 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 1:32 PM, Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote: On Tue, 18 Feb 2014 22:07:12 +0400, Andrew Savchenko wrote: Then write. Just be aware that to write a systemd profile, you need to use systemd. Or to create a non-systemd profile :) We already have many of those

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Debian just voted in systemd for default init system in jessie

2014-02-21 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
as conspiracy theorists or FUDders. Time will reveal all. Indeed time reveals everything and part of this foiled plot revealed itself two days ago. It was said earlier in the list by systemd supporters, that this project is modular, fine split to binaries and thus critical issues in the pid 1

[gentoo-user] Re: Change from udev to eudev?

2016-06-14 Thread James
J. Roeleveld antarean.org> writes: > > On Monday, June 13, 2016 02:10:27 PM James wrote: > > wabe gmail.com> writes: > > Still, if you manage 1000 linux workstations, then systemd does have > > it's merits. > Serious question: What makes systemd m

Re: [gentoo-user] systemd weirdness with courier-authdaemond

2014-03-13 Thread Adam Carter
-connections.mount sys-kernel-config.mount sys-kernel-debug.mount tmp.mount var-lock.mount var-run.mount var-tmp-portage.mount var.mount cups.path systemd-ask-password-console.path systemd-ask-password-wall.path session-1.scope accounts-daemon.service acpid.service alsa-restore.service

Re: [gentoo-user] a few blockers I can't figure out

2015-08-31 Thread Alan McKinnon
ooand I have masked > ncurses-6 for the time being. Portage also wants to downgrade my > systemd from 221(0/2) to 219_p112(0/2). > > [blocks B ] sys-apps/systemd[gudev(-)] ("sys-apps/systemd[gudev(-)]" is > blocking dev-libs/libgudev-230) > [blocks B ] sys-apps/s

Re: [gentoo-user] systemd

2011-08-22 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 22.08.2011 20:29, schrieb Stefan G. Weichinger: update: edited the example in the gentoo-wiki now. replying to myself once more, which makes it feel more like a wiki or blog than a mailing-list ;-) additional thoughts: * as there is readahead-support in systemd I assume I could get rid

[gentoo-user] Straight from the horse's mouth

2012-08-12 Thread Walter Dnes
http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/systemd-devel/2012-August/006066.html Well, we intent to continue to make it possible to run udevd outside of systemd. But that's about it. We will not polish that, or add new features

Re: [gentoo-user] Straight from the horse's mouth

2012-08-12 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Sun, 12 Aug 2012 05:52:11 -0400 Walter Dnes waltd...@waltdnes.org wrote: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/systemd-devel/2012-August/006066.html So, what is it going to take to convince Lennart that, contrary to what he thinks, he actually isn't the only human on the planet? I'd like

Re: [gentoo-user] USB automount

2012-09-25 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Tue, Sep 25, 2012 at 3:32 AM, Stefan G. Weichinger li...@xunil.at wrote: Am 25.09.2012 10:09, schrieb Stefan G. Weichinger: So if I don't use systemd right now, it would be better to keep consolekit? I give it a try now ... compiling stuff without that flag for a test. Did not work

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [ANNOUNCE] I like systemd now :)

2012-11-11 Thread 微蔡
want pulseaudio or systemd. Now it is forced on everybody. When systemd devs took over udev, one was told that of course, one could use udev without [systemd] in the future. Now they are talking about making udev systemd only. obsolutly nonsense. what they remove , is the ability

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [ANNOUNCE] I like systemd now :)

2012-11-11 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
is a valid reaction. A lot of people don't need nor want pulseaudio or systemd. Now it is forced on everybody. When systemd devs took over udev, one was told that of course, one could use udev without [systemd] in the future. Now they are talking about making udev

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [ANNOUNCE] I like systemd now :)

2012-11-11 Thread Alan McKinnon
. If it is also based on lies, hate is a valid reaction. A lot of people don't need nor want pulseaudio or systemd. Now it is forced on everybody. When systemd devs took over udev, one was told that of course, one could use udev without [systemd] in the future. Now they are talking about

Re: [gentoo-user] udev-197 moves from /usr/lib to /lib

2013-01-11 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Fri, Jan 11, 2013 at 4:33 PM, Walter Dnes waltd...@waltdnes.org wrote: On Fri, Jan 11, 2013 at 10:42:37AM -0600, Canek Pel??ez Vald??s wrote No, because the problem has never been in udev (nor systemd, for that matter). It fixes how *Gentoo* packages udev; probably the devs read

Re: [gentoo-user] Systemd reaches target Emergency Mode every boot

2013-01-28 Thread João Matos
2013/1/28 Stefan G. Weichinger li...@xunil.at Am 27.01.2013 22:08, schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés: udev-197 in the tree installs everything to /; systemd-197 installs to /usr. I'm pretty sure that is not going to end well; I haven't upgraded to 197 in neither package. forking this thread

Re: [gentoo-user] systemd-197-r1 starts gdm-3.6.2

2013-03-04 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
systemd race condition. It's not that important to me right now ... I will check back with later releases and google bug-reports now and then. Another update: posted to systemd-devel and got pointed to LVM/DM-people ... I don't know: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/systemd-devel/2013-March

Re: [gentoo-user] systemd-197-r1 starts gdm-3.6.2

2013-03-04 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 05.03.2013 07:36, schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés: I don't. AFAIK, systemd provides systemd-timedated(8) since systemd 30: http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/timedated Yes, found that as well yesterday. In normal desktops/laptops/servers, it just works. I *had

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: systemd - are we forced to switch?

2013-07-23 Thread Samuli Suominen
, logind since systemd = 205 requires systemd and won't work on openrc, upstart, and such as in, the idea of using logind outside of systemd is a dead end so keeping ConsoleKit in portage for long as it works for long as we need openrc for Linux based systems and when it no longer works, the contingency

Re: [gentoo-user] gentoo-systemd-only deprecation

2013-07-31 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 12:56 PM, Stroller strol...@stellar.eclipse.co.uk wrote: On 31 July 2013, at 18:23, Alan McKinnon wrote: ... Whinging about systemd binaries being installed is valid, but whinging about some data files is not. Anyone who does is letting their OCD show in ways

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Optional /usr merge in Gentoo

2013-08-19 Thread Yohan Pereira
On 19/08/13 at 09:36pm, William Kenworthy wrote: So why not a profile so those guys who want to play can get a configuration that better suits them? - and vice versa if the whole systemd push dies and Redhat drops it as I doubt anyone else big enough will pick it up (they have a foot in both

Re: [gentoo-user] looking for a couple of systemd units

2013-08-29 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Fri, Aug 30, 2013 at 12:24 AM, Graham Murray gra...@gmurray.org.uk wrote: Stefan G. Weichinger li...@xunil.at writes: Just found this note from Pacho on planet.gentoo.org: http://my.opera.com/pacho/blog/2013/08/27/how-to-write-proper-systemd-unit-files I will have to review some of my

Re: [gentoo-user] LVM2+mdraid5+LUKS+systemd (was Re: LVM2+mdraid+systemd)

2013-09-23 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 23.09.2013 10:00, schrieb Stefan G. Weichinger: Getting that unit-name right is quite annoying ... fiddling with understanding that strange escaping etc ... :-( I have now: # cat /etc/systemd/system/dev-disk-by\\x2did-dm\\x2dname\\x2dswap.swap [Unit] #After=systemd-cryptsetup.service After

[gentoo-user] Systemd as drop-in replacement for udev?

2013-12-05 Thread Róbert Čerňanský
Hello all, I am currently updating my system and Portage wants to replace udev (204) with systemd (208). My question is (hopefully) simple: Can I use systemd as drop-in replacement for udev? In other words, can I pretend that systemd is udev and continue using OpenRC as with udev itself? I

Re: [gentoo-user] going from systemd to udev

2014-02-04 Thread Joseph
On 02/04/14 18:38, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: [snip] I'm using XFCE It all started to happen after I switched to systemd. So maybe on the weekend I'll try to switch one of the machine back to udev. I think all I need is to unmerge systemd and emerge udev without rebooting. As others have

Re: [gentoo-user] blocking -systemd

2014-02-08 Thread Greg Woodbury
On 02/06/2014 01:49 PM, Joseph wrote: I have in make.conf USE: ... -systemd But gnome-base/gnome-settings-daemon wants to pull in systemd-208 so I need to emerge sys-apps/systemd-208-r2 and I have installed udev which conflicts with systemd. How about using XFCE? I think the last time I

Re: [gentoo-user] Debian just voted in systemd for default init system in jessie

2014-02-15 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2014-02-15 10:16 AM, Tanstaafl tansta...@libertytrek.org wrote: Hi all, Not to revive a flame-fest against systemd, but... I'm sure some or most of you have already heard about this, but I found a really decent thread discussing this whole systemd thing. It is only really comparing systemd

Re: [gentoo-user] Debian just voted in systemd for default init system in jessie

2014-02-16 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2014-02-15 3:32 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com wrote: For Slackware, I have no idea. For Debian, no the only options were[1]: 1. sysvinit (status quo) 2. systemd 3. upstart 4. openrc (experimental) 5. One system on Linux, something else on non-linux 6. multiple It should also

Re: [gentoo-user] Debian just voted in systemd for default init system in jessie

2014-02-21 Thread thegeezer
] systemd [3] runit (whatever choices are supported). +1 from here Personally i'm most likely to stay with openRC, because the switch is non-trivial and have no faith in the xinetd-style socket arbitrator. but would eselect be able to script the following: .. new kernel coptions .. new grub2

Re: [gentoo-user] udev/systemd-blocker

2014-06-03 Thread wraeth
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 06/04/2014 12:11 PM, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: while updateing I got this blocker: In short, sys-power/upower has changed to no longer support the unmaintained sys-power/pm-tools and instead depend on systemd. To remain using upower with pm

Re: [gentoo-user] Systemd upower

2014-06-04 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 04 Jun 2014 08:21:51 -0400, Tanstaafl wrote: And yes, as devs get lazier (decide to rely on systemd rather than build it to work independently of the init system), Reusing existing, proven code is not laziness, it is efficiency. Yes, they could code their own version, but all the time

Re: [gentoo-user] Systemd upower

2014-06-04 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 04/06/14 16:47, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Wed, 04 Jun 2014 08:21:51 -0400, Tanstaafl wrote: And yes, as devs get lazier (decide to rely on systemd rather than build it to work independently of the init system), Reusing existing, proven code is not laziness, it is efficiency. Yes

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [OT] Linus Torvalds on systemd

2014-09-18 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 18/09/2014 10:07, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Thu, 18 Sep 2014 07:19:21 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: Is systemd starting to encompass too much? I think so, but who cares? If we want an init manager that reads systemd-like files but doesn't do anything else (hostnamectl, logging, udev, etc.), I

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [OT] Linus Torvalds on systemd

2014-09-20 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
to produce anything. You're the only one in this thread that SHOULD be producing anything. That's how open source works and that's how it's supposed to work. We're not your unpaid researchers. I'm sorry, Volker pointed out that the pro systemd folks came to gentoo-user

[gentoo-user] Systemd and PyTimeChart

2014-09-23 Thread James
Hello PyTimeChart is another wonderful tool that complements Ftrace/trace-cmd/KernelShark. [1] The systemd supporters would be keenly wise if they added pytimechart to Gentoo, so those (systemd) reticent to change, can actually see just how wonderful systemd is Here in slide (26) we see intel

Re: [gentoo-user] syslog-ng-3.6.1 nearly no log anymore

2014-11-15 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sat, Nov 15, 2014 at 3:08 PM, Walter Dnes waltd...@waltdnes.org wrote: On Sat, Nov 15, 2014 at 09:34:18AM +, Neil Bothwick wrote On Sat, 15 Nov 2014 07:04:03 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: Since you have it, but don't run it, does USE=-systemd fix the issue? Worth a try. If it does fix

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Get off my lawn?

2015-01-20 Thread Tom H
On Mon, Jan 19, 2015 at 1:03 PM, James wirel...@tampabay.rr.com wrote: I think the fundamental flaw with systemd is the fact that the duality of support for systemd and other init solutions is so quickly abondoned. If they were allowed (encouraged) to run side by side for a few years, let

Re: [gentoo-user] openrc-systemd command comparison

2015-03-17 Thread Marc Joliet
Am Tue, 17 Mar 2015 13:20:45 -0400 schrieb Rich Freeman ri...@gentoo.org: On Tue, Mar 17, 2015 at 10:41 AM, Daniel Frey djqf...@gmail.com wrote: On 03/17/2015 06:56 AM, Bob Wya wrote: I've not seen any that are OpenRC specific... But this one is pretty decent for SysVInit vs. systemd

[gentoo-user] python problem trying to emerge systemd-cron

2015-08-23 Thread allan gottlieb
Trying to emerge systemd-cron results in the following error !!! Problem resolving dependencies for sys-process/systemd-cron ... done! !!! The ebuild selected to satisfy systemd-cron has unmet requirements. - sys-process/systemd-cron-1.5.3::gentoo USE=-cron-boot -etc-crontab-systemd -minutely

Re: [gentoo-user] systemd-224 Look out for new networking behavior

2015-08-03 Thread gottlieb
On Sun, Aug 02 2015, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: On Sun, Aug 2, 2015 at 10:03 AM, walt w41...@gmail.com wrote: I've been running systemd for a long time without needing to enable the dhcpcd service at boot time. Starting with systemd-224 that is no longer true. Today I had to enable

[gentoo-user] Re: minimal installation CD iso is where?,

2015-08-06 Thread James`
Jc García jyo.garcia at gmail.com writes: I'm not saying push one over the other, but explain and delineate that choice *early* in the handbook. WE owe the larger linux community that wisdom:: that gentoo has made peace with systemd and openrc:: imho. OpenRC is there on the stage3

Re: [gentoo-user] installing gentoo with a systemd profile

2015-07-21 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Mon, 20 Jul 2015 21:13:19 -0400, gottl...@nyu.edu wrote: Did you read this part? https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Handbook:AMD64/Full/Installation#Optional:_Using_systemd Yes I did and had the systemd wiki page on a chromium tab while installing. It's been some months since I

Re: [gentoo-user] Safe systemd "reload" command

2016-06-05 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On 06/05/2016 03:23 AM, J. García wrote: > I run systemd , but I have not tested your script, as of now I'm not > using spamassassin, but I will at some time in near future; but looking > at the script, I see some problems, you run the OpenRC restart commands > even if systemd

Re: [gentoo-user] [Off-Topic] arch-openrc

2017-03-09 Thread Marvin Gülker
On Thu, Mar 09, 2017 at 07:57:19AM -0500, Rich Freeman wrote: > Honestly, as somebody who monitors all the systemd bugs on Gentoo it > isn't actually that much work, and I suspect that it wouldn't be that > much work maintaining openrc scripts on Arch. I doubt they rename the > apac

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: systemd fails to mount nfs4 mounts

2017-11-01 Thread Daniel Frey
, not to mention extra wear and tear on the drives. I had a workaround to this but it stopped working so I went to systemd, which helped that problem, but systemd gave me new problems... like the inability to wait for a network to be up before mounting remote nfs drives. openrc handles this just

Re: [gentoo-user] udev-238 and google?

2018-05-22 Thread Mick
..] > > I don't know/understand why meson needs the above, but is there a reason > > google DNS and NTP servers take precedence over my system settings? > > You are misinterpreting this output. Nothing is "taking precedence" > over your local settings. > > systemd-u

Re: [gentoo-user] empty cdrom drive is busy or mounted

2019-08-16 Thread Jack
ecompiling the kernel (5.2.0), systemd and all packages depending on systemd - using the new gcc-9.2.0 Furthermore I had to add the use flags cgroup-hybrid -sysv-utils for systemd. This hasn't been necessary before - very strange. For me, systemd is a monster which I haven't understood. I try

Re: [gentoo-user] empty cdrom drive is busy or mounted

2019-08-21 Thread james
On 8/16/19 12:44 PM, Jack wrote: > ps auxf | grep systemd This is new turf for me. Upon issuing this command string I get:: # ps auxf | grep systemd root 24947 0.0 0.0 13964 996 pts/6S+ 15:43 0:00 | | | \_ grep --colour=auto systemd I have no c

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Switching default tmpfiles and faster internet coming my way.

2020-12-06 Thread Arve Barsnes
On Sun, 6 Dec 2020 at 13:37, Neil Bothwick wrote: > Despite the claims that systemd is > monolithic, it is not. It is an ecosystem comprised of many parts, some > of which can be used without any other systemd components, like > systemd-tmpfiles and systemd-boot, not to mention ud

[gentoo-user] Re: Switching default tmpfiles and faster internet coming my way.

2020-12-06 Thread Martin Vaeth
ou use opentmp): > > Which breaks a lot of STANDARDS-COMPLIANT software. Actually, /var/tmp needs not be cleaned at boot to be on the safe side: grep /var/tmp /usr/lib/tmpfiles.d/* /usr/lib/tmpfiles.d/portage-ccache.conf:x /var/tmp/ccache /usr/lib/tmpfiles.d/systemd-tmp.conf:x /var/tmp/systemd-p

Re: [gentoo-user] network do not come up after booting, only manual reloading (systemd-networkd)

2021-09-05 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Sun, Sep 5, 2021 at 2:46 AM Tamer Higazi wrote: > Hi people, > > After upgrading my gentoo box i see a new behavior, that my machine > after boot doen't configure my network. My network is configured through > systemd-network, > > Only if I manually after login execut

Re: [gentoo-user] network do not come up after booting, only manual reloading (systemd-networkd)

2021-09-06 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Mon, Sep 6, 2021 at 2:46 PM Tamer Higazi wrote: [...] > /etc/systemd/network/20-wirded.network: [...] That looks fine to me. for enp7s0 there is no other network file. > That is as it should be. I think with THIS systemd version, the whole problem is, that the > conf

Re: [gentoo-user] A couple of problems with systemd

2022-05-28 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Fri, May 27, 2022 at 6:51 PM John Covici wrote: > [...] > Thanks. I am not usingsystemd-network or anything like that.I > created a service called network and use the %i and links in > /etc/systemd/system/multi-user-target.wants to start my two cards. > Maybe this is

Re: [gentoo-user] systemd

2011-08-22 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 22.08.2011 19:03, schrieb Joost Roeleveld: I do hope you can figure this one out as I do like the idea of systemd. But I need RAID and LVM to work correctly for my system to boot. Got it. Compared this one: https://github.com/falconindy/initscripts-systemd/blob/master/lvm.service w

Re: [gentoo-user] systemd

2011-08-23 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
the script /usr/local/sbin/cgroup_start which is started by openrc, but not by systemd. In there the perms would be set up for my user ... So the solution will be to teach systemd to start that script as well.

Re: [gentoo-user] systemd and gnome3

2012-07-20 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 2012-07-20 14:43, schrieb Peter Alfredsen: (I am assuming that you are using systemd-186 -- all earlier releases I checked have bugs I ran into) thanks for all the information ... added those pam.d-lines, no success Unmasking systemd-186 brought up dependencies like udev .. I hesitate to go

Re: [gentoo-user] systemd and gnome3

2012-07-20 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Fri, Jul 20, 2012 at 10:54 AM, Peter Alfredsen peter.alfred...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Jul 20, 2012 at 5:30 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Jul 20, 2012 at 4:56 AM, Stefan G. Weichinger li...@xunil.at wrote: Does anyone use systemd on gentoo, with gnome3? Would

Re: [gentoo-user] USB automount

2012-09-25 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 25.09.2012 10:09, schrieb Stefan G. Weichinger: So if I don't use systemd right now, it would be better to keep consolekit? I give it a try now ... compiling stuff without that flag for a test. Did not work. Rather easy to understand, if neither systemd or consolekit is there, how should

Re: [gentoo-user] Systemd reaches target Emergency Mode every boot

2013-01-28 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
of stuff that break if you mix up consolekit and systemd (logind, actually). Maybe the situation has improved, but in my case the simplest solution was to purge consolekit from my systems (except in my media center, XBMC still uses its d-bus interfaces). ConsoleKit is unmantained anyway. I removed

Re: [gentoo-user] systemd and gnome: suspending twice, solved

2013-02-16 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 2013-02-10 20:32, schrieb Stefan G. Weichinger: systemd and acpid and Gnome all try to handle suspending my thinkpad to RAM ... it seems. So I get the behavior that it suspends fine when I close the lid but when I open it again I get an immediate suspend *again* ... I then tried

Re: [gentoo-user] systemd-197-r1 starts gdm-3.6.2

2013-03-04 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 04.03.2013 20:42, schrieb Stefan G. Weichinger: Next systemd-issue (yes, I know ... openrc is there as well ...): I get warnings like superblock date is in the future --- REPAIRED for filesystems at boot-time. Canek, (how) do you handle time and hwclock with systemd? I *had

Re: [gentoo-user] systemd - are we forced to switch?

2013-07-22 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 22/07/13 10:03, Helmut Jarausch wrote: Hi, How did you resolve this conflict? Many thanks for a hint, Helmut As a maintainer of sys-auth/consolekit, and xfce-base/xfce4-meta I can assure you sys-auth/consolekit is not about to be removed and the support for systemd-logind

Re: [gentoo-user] systemd - are we forced to switch?

2013-07-22 Thread Philip Webb
130722 Helmut Jarausch wrote: gnome-base/gnome-settings-daemon-3.8.4 requires systemd sys-auth/consolekit-0.4.6cannot coexist with systemd but many packages depend on sys-auth/consolekit : How did you resolve this conflict? Don't use Gnome. I've been using Fluxbox for years

Re: [gentoo-user] systemd - are we forced to switch?

2013-07-22 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 22/07/13 18:02, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: ConsoleKit is for all practical purposes unmaintained, and all of the packages you mentioned it support systemd just fine. Emerge systemd, and purge CK from your system; I did that almost a year ago. It's how you look at it. I call it mature

Re: [gentoo-user] systemd - are we forced to switch?

2013-07-22 Thread Michael Hampicke
Am 22.07.2013 17:02, schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés: ConsoleKit is for all practical purposes unmaintained, and all of the packages you mentioned it support systemd just fine. Emerge systemd, and purge CK from your system; I did that almost a year ago. Thanks, just purged consolekit from my

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: gentoo-systemd-only deprecation

2013-07-30 Thread Pavel Volkov
On Monday 29 July 2013 14:04:38 Nikos Chantziaras wrote: On 28/07/13 11:22, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: Basically, systemd is now a first class citizen in Gentoo (on par with OpenRC) This is great. Thanks to everyone involved! Does someone know whether a KDE system can work reliably

Re: [gentoo-user] [~amd64] Some possibly (?) helpful hints re the big gnome-3.8 update

2013-07-30 Thread gottlieb
/etc/mtab and /proc/self/mounts If you switch to systemd, you will need to make /etc/mtab a symlink to /proc/self/mounts. Done. After that comes the big one emerge systemd USE=... systemd ... emerge --newuse ... [ a change from previous msg ] /etc/init.d/udev restart Can the system

Re: [gentoo-user] [~amd64] Some possibly (?) helpful hints re the big gnome-3.8 update

2013-07-31 Thread Graham Murray
Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com writes: The wiki is wrong. The script /etc/init.d/udev is part of sys-fs/udev, which you need to uninstall before installing systemd. Perhaps it's CONFIG_PROTECT'd, but anyway sys-fs/udev and sys-apps/systemd install the udev binary in different

Re: [gentoo-user] gentoo-systemd-only deprecation

2013-07-31 Thread Stroller
On 31 July 2013, at 18:23, Alan McKinnon wrote: ... Whinging about systemd binaries being installed is valid, but whinging about some data files is not. Anyone who does is letting their OCD show in ways they really should be keeping private. Hmmmn, it's a bit freaking weird - if I'm

[gentoo-user] Re: Au revoir, gnome-3.8

2013-08-07 Thread walt
available after gnome 3.8 stabilization. Am I correct in believing that gnome-3.8 (whether in testing as now, or stable later) requires init=systemd? I am converting an old ~amd64 machine to systemd for practice so that I can convert my main laptop (also ~amd64) to systemd. The purpose

Re: [gentoo-user] Moving from old udev to eudev

2013-08-12 Thread Tanstaafl
. It is solving the problem of *when* (not if - if the words I have read from the systemd maintainers can be taken at face value) the systemd maintainers decide to pull the plug on the ability to have a systemd-less udev...

Re: [gentoo-user] looking for a couple of systemd units

2013-08-27 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
(on my specific server) ? And rsyncd: https://github.com/vonSchlotzkow/systemd-gentoo-units/blob/master/sys-apps/systemd-units/files/services-server/rsyncd.service S

Re: [gentoo-user] looking for a couple of systemd units

2013-08-29 Thread Graham Murray
Stefan G. Weichinger li...@xunil.at writes: Just found this note from Pacho on planet.gentoo.org: http://my.opera.com/pacho/blog/2013/08/27/how-to-write-proper-systemd-unit-files I will have to review some of my files then ;-) What I did not understand from reading that is why he (or gentoo

Re: [gentoo-user] LVM2+mdraid5+LUKS+systemd (was Re: LVM2+mdraid+systemd)

2013-09-23 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2013-09-23 10:37 AM, Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com wrote: On Sep 23, 2013 6:01 AM, Tanstaafl tansta...@libertytrek.org mailto:tansta...@libertytrek.org wrote: Man... watching this discussion just makes me want to avoid systemd like the plague/all the more... Please don't top post

Re: [gentoo-user] LVM2+mdraid5+LUKS+systemd (was Re: LVM2+mdraid+systemd)

2013-09-25 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 23/09/13 17:37, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: On Sep 23, 2013 6:01 AM, Tanstaafl tansta...@libertytrek.org mailto:tansta...@libertytrek.org wrote: Man... watching this discussion just makes me want to avoid systemd like the plague/all the more... Please don't top post. Please disable

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: separate / and /usr to require initramfs 2013-11-01

2013-10-08 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
Am 08.10.2013 02:03, schrieb walt: On 09/29/2013 04:58 AM, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: As much as I hate systemd My Alzheimer's prevents me from remembering your reasons for hating systemd. Would you *very* briefly refresh my memory, please? simple: one tool to do one job. text output

[gentoo-user] systemd and kernel developers cooperating to turn it into a global cgroup manager?

2013-10-17 Thread Mark David Dumlao
https://www.linux.com/news/featured-blogs/200-libby-clark/733595-all-about-the-linux-kernel-cgroups-redesign Not sure if I read that just right... but since nobody is doing cgroup management besides systemd, in practice the cgroups implementation in Linux wasn't very consistent. So since systemd

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: systemd as a Profile - practical or not?

2014-02-18 Thread Tanstaafl
... Is making the use of systemd or not based on a selected Profile, as opposed to manually trying to do it via USE flags etc, a practical request, or not? How is this different from the status quo? There are several systemd profiles available that make use of the files in /usr/portage/profiles/targets

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: banshee installation without systemd

2014-02-24 Thread William Kenworthy
On 24/02/14 09:31, eroen wrote: On Sun, 23 Feb 2014 18:02:01 +0100, Fox halfsocial...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, after reading the thread about systemd somebody mentioned sys-fs/eudev. I decided used because I had systemd only to used udev and unmerge systemd. Now I can't use Banshee which I

Re: [gentoo-user] Debian just voted in systemd for default init system in jessie

2014-02-24 Thread Mick
On Monday 24 Feb 2014 21:48:39 Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: At least KDE has not hardcoded a requirement for systemd as Gnome now has. GNOME has no hardcoded requirement for systemd; do your homework. I beg your pardon, I got this wrong - I extrapolated from the Gentoo state of affairs (I

Gentoo+Gnome requires systemd, but Gnome itself does not? Why? - WAS: Re: [gentoo-user] Debian just voted in systemd for default init system in jessie

2014-02-25 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2014-02-24 4:48 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com wrote: In Gentoo you need systemd, but that's a decision from the Gentoo maintainers. They do the job, they make the choices. Interesting. Now I have to spin off a new thread as to why this decision was made if it isn't forced

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Debian just voted in systemd for default init system in jessie

2014-02-26 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 21.02.2014 23:43, schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés: And now with 209 there is a new systemd-networkd deamon that is started by default even if not configured or used. http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_itempx=MTYxMTI $ ./configure --help | grep networkd --disable-networkd

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: systemd-networkd: simpler config for my network

2014-04-09 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 08.04.2014 07:24, schrieb Stefan G. Weichinger: I just looked up what systemd-networkd and virt-manager do. No tap-devices here when I run a local VM ... so I might review the openrc-script for reference. edited and tested the bridge.service: http://www.oops.co.at/en/publications

Re: [gentoo-user] Systemd upower

2014-06-04 Thread Samuli Suominen
happening, as more and more infrastructure migrates towards systemd. Perhaps a news item everytime it happens is unrealistic? Weren't you the one saying that those of us who were voicing concerns that systemd proponents were ultimately wanting to FORCE systemd on everyone were just scare-mongering

Re: Apologies - WAS: Re: [gentoo-user] Systemd upower

2014-06-08 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sun, Jun 8, 2014 at 1:26 PM, Tanstaafl tansta...@libertytrek.org wrote: First question: is there a decent guide to installing a gentoo system from scratch using systemd as the init system? I've done this a few times on VMs. Just follow the handbook, but skip steps about configuring

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: resolv.conf is different after every reboot

2014-07-27 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sun, Jul 27, 2014 at 12:33 PM, James wirel...@tampabay.rr.com wrote: I set my nameservers all manually in this file and they do not every change. I do not run systemd. I'm not sure of your issue(s) but, historically, resolv.conf should not be displaying this behavior. FWIW, systemd

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