At 6:02 PM -0500 2/18/02, Tom Buskey wrote:
There are also some groups trying to do community 802.11b networks in
Cambridge and Londonderry, NH. I forgot the web site :-(
I'm really interested in this kind of stuff. If anyone has any
contact info, please let me know.
-- Jack Hodgson [EMAIL
At 06:02 PM 2/18/2002 -0500, you wrote:
Has anyone seen the Robert X Cringley site? He's doing stuff w/ 802.11b.
http://www.pbs.org/cringely/pulpit/pulpit20010712.html
The synopsis: he's using satellite can't get DSL or Cable modem. So
he finds someone (using a telescope) that can get DSL,
On Tue, 19 Feb 2002, Jack Hodgson wrote:
At 6:02 PM -0500 2/18/02, Tom Buskey wrote:
There are also some groups trying to do community 802.11b networks in
Cambridge and Londonderry, NH. I forgot the web site :-(
I'm really interested in this kind of stuff. If anyone has any
contact info,
Hey,
With all the talk about about DSL throughput, I'm wondering if anyone
out there has any experience with either Dish Network's or DirecTV's
satellite internet connectivity offerings.
Evidently DirecTV is partnering with the likes of Earthlink, and
they're offering *seems* cheaper than
I have posted to this ist before on the topic, so you may want to look
through the archives.
I have use StarBand (aka Dish) for over a year. Throughput has gotten
progressively worse as subscribership has climbed. Latency is always at
least 600ms.
If you aren't running win32 you should think
Marc Evans should comment on Starband. The people I know who have DirecTV for Internet
hate
it.
I do know several people who have satellite, and the only service that they like is
Starband.
I'll send you the name of the company that hooked up my friend Larry (who lives in
Holland, Ma
but
On Mon, 18 Feb 2002, Paul Lussier wrote:
Does anyone have satellite access out there? If so, what do you think
about it?
We have a client who signed up with StarBand's two-way satellite Internet
service. It generally works, with one major problem: The latency is HORRID.
Time to ping the
Benjamin Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
Geosynchronous orbit is roughly 22,000 miles straight up.
Your request has to go 22,000 miles into space, turn around
and go 22,000 miles...
Actually, it's more like 22,400 miles straight up from the _equator_.
The slant range from our neck of the
This isn't an answer to make things happen quickly, but a well
written complaint to the NH Public Utility Commision by as many people as
possible, that have been explicitely turned down by Verizon as not being
loop qualified, will probably help. There is currently at least two
dockets open in the
On Mon, 18 Feb 2002, Paul Lussier wrote:
So what I'm hearing is, stay with dial-up :(
Believe me, if there was something better than my 26 kilobit part-time
dial-up available, I would use it! :-)
The only practical options are ISDN and leased lines. ISDN isn't
*completely* insane; you
On Mon, 18 Feb 2002, Marc Evans wrote:
This isn't an answer to make things happen quickly, but a well written
complaint to the NH Public Utility Commision ...
Hah! Through sad, hard personal experience, I know that the NH PUC
doesn't give two turds in a box about individual subscribers.
--
On Mon, 18 Feb 2002, Bayard Coolidge USG wrote:
Benjamin Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
Geosynchronous orbit is roughly 22,000 miles straight up.
Your request has to go 22,000 miles into space, turn around
and go 22,000 miles...
Actually, it's more like 22,400 miles straight up
Paul Lussier said:
how to get Verizon or ATT to get off their collective behinds
Frankly, I think getting Verizon to do anything will be extremely
difficult. They are losing billions of dollars per year, according
to their public statements, and my SWAG is they're not going to be
interested
On Mon, 18 Feb 2002, Marc Evans wrote:
Starband has their uplink in Georgia. The results of 60 seconds of 80 byte
ping packets without BST to the nearest pingable router are:
round-trip min/avg/max = 660.2/1054.0/2046.2 ms
For satellite, I believe the nearest pingable router is in
With satellite, you are going to be stuck with the latency. Some of the
sattelite systems have a dialup component, and others, like Starband are
two-way.
A friend of mine in Nebraska found an ISP that provides wireless.
Does ATT give any estimates as to when Cable Internet will be available.
On Mon, 18 Feb 2002, Benjamin Scott wrote:
How far are you from your CO (or DLC/SLIC box)? If you are over 18,000
feet or so, DSL is out-of-the-question, regardless.
True for Verizon ADSL. There are however manufacturers of xDSL equipment
that is working to 26000 feet today, that other
On Mon, 18 Feb 2002, Benjamin Scott wrote:
On Mon, 18 Feb 2002, Marc Evans wrote:
This isn't an answer to make things happen quickly, but a well written
complaint to the NH Public Utility Commision ...
Hah! Through sad, hard personal experience, I know that the NH PUC
doesn't give
On Mon, 18 Feb 2002, Benjamin Scott wrote:
On Mon, 18 Feb 2002, Marc Evans wrote:
Starband has their uplink in Georgia. The results of 60 seconds of 80 byte
ping packets without BST to the nearest pingable router are:
round-trip min/avg/max = 660.2/1054.0/2046.2 ms
For
On Mon, 18 Feb 2002, Marc Evans wrote:
How far are you from your CO (or DLC/SLIC box)? If you are over 18,000
feet or so, DSL is out-of-the-question, regardless.
The DLC/SLC issue is a far bigger problem ...
It can also be an advantage. I live something like 9 miles (almost 50,000
Another possibility is ISDN(a bit better than dialup). Verizon has been
very slow to set up tarrifs that make this cost effective.
ISDN isn't bad, it's not DSL or cable level bandwidth, but it is a hell of
a lot better than analog phone lines. The trick is of course to use Data
over Voice
On Mon, 18 Feb 2002, Benjamin Scott wrote:
On Mon, 18 Feb 2002, Marc Evans wrote:
How far are you from your CO (or DLC/SLIC box)? If you are over 18,000
feet or so, DSL is out-of-the-question, regardless.
The DLC/SLC issue is a far bigger problem ...
It can also be an
That is a service sometimes referred to as IDSL. Several DSL providers
offered this to clients who were outside of the standard DSL areas.
IMHO, DSL is an interim strategy. It is a way for the phone companies to
utilize existing copper technology. Verizon (nee Bell Titanic, nee Nynex,
nee
Um, am I reading this right? When I move out of Nashua I'm stuck with dialup
again? I've already got ATT Broadband Internet. I'm not thrilled with it,
but it works...
-Mike-
On Monday 18 February 2002 09:15 pm, Jerry Feldman wrote:
snip
Does ATT give any estimates as to when Cable
On Mon, 18 Feb 2002, Marc Evans wrote:
There is a draft RFC for the protocol. The Win32 version is known to run
to some semi-useful degree under WINE. Looking through the starband news
groups on dejanews can be somewhat useful.
Indeed. For those too lazy to look, here is some information:
True. Ziplink, the ISP in Lowell, at one time had a very extensive set of
web pages on ISDN and how to order it.
ISDN (for consumer use) is broken up into 3 channels:
2 are 64K and the third is for control. You can bind the 2 64K channels
into one for an effective 128K. DOVB, I think, is
On Mon, 18 Feb 2002, Jerry Feldman wrote:
Currently the cable TV guys can supply analog and digital TV, digital
phone service, and Internet both to homes and to businesses.
Yah, and then instead of The Phone Company, we will have The Broadband
Company. Except many of those companies also
On Mon, 18 Feb 2002, Jerry Feldman wrote:
When ordering ISDN, the phone company used to be clueless.
Still is.
Definitely contact the potential ISDN ISP, since requirements vary
depending on the exact configuration.
--
Ben Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On Mon, 18 Feb 2002, Jerry Feldman wrote:
True. Ziplink, the ISP in Lowell, at one time had a very extensive set of
web pages on ISDN and how to order it.
ISDN (for consumer use) is broken up into 3 channels:
2 are 64K and the third is for control. You can bind the 2 64K channels
into
This is true. ATT BB bought Mediaone (which was previopusly owned by US West).
However, the broadband companies, which still large companies, are still much less
bureaucratic
than the phone companies. They all developed from smaller cable companies, such as
Continental CableVistion, or Cox (a
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From: Benjamin Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Greater NH Linux Users' Group [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, February 18, 2002 4:18 PM
Subject: Re: Satelite systems
On Mon, 18 Feb 2002, Marc Evans wrote:
Starband has their uplink in Georgia. The results of 60
Has anyone seen the Robert X Cringley site? He's doing stuff w/ 802.11b.
http://www.pbs.org/cringely/pulpit/pulpit20010712.html
The synopsis: he's using satellite can't get DSL or Cable modem. So
he finds someone (using a telescope) that can get DSL, gets *them* a
connection, then uses
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