the
size of the total deployment, it was nothing.
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On Mon, 2005-06-13 at 12:20, Kevin
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David;
The failure of CHCS II was not just one failure but a series
a failure?
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David;
The failure of CHCS II
to a vendor.
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I think we agreed on most of it. It's hard
This is the second time this morning that I find myself profoundly not
in agreement with what you are saying.
There is an implication in your posting that freebies, as in open
source free software, is unsupported. As the vendor of a product that is
open source free software, but for which we
] == VistaWeb Missing Apps ==
This is the second time this morning that I find myself profoundly not
in agreement with what you are saying.
There is an implication in your posting that freebies, as in open
source free software, is unsupported. As the vendor of a product that is
open source free
their money?
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Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2005 7:30 PM
Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] == VistaWeb Missing Apps ==
I was initially surprised to learn that MUMPS was being used for
financial
I know that one reason I have tended to shy away from Linux is that I
have been unable to find a vendor that sells and/or supports Linux on a
notebook. It's not that I don't have the technical competence to
install Linux, or even that I am averse to downloading and installing
new drivers, etc.
It's always nice to have a member join the group with a sense of humor.
Welcome!
-- Bhaskar
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Hey, I've been wrong before, back in 1956 I think it was. Could even happen
again.
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On Mon, 2005-06-13 at 10:59, Greg Woodhouse wrote:
I know that one reason I have tended to shy away from Linux is that I
have been unable to find a vendor that sells and/or supports Linux on a
notebook.
You mean besides Emperor Linux, HP, IBM and Dell? For what it is worth,
the correct term
13, 2005 10:37 AM
To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] == VistaWeb Missing Apps ==
This is the second time this morning that I find myself profoundly not
in agreement with what you are saying.
There is an implication in your posting that freebies
: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Karl, haven't heard from you in a long time. This is news to me that
CHCS
II is still
I've never heard of emperor Linux. I called Dell (and HP, and IBM).
Dell, for example, told me that they support Linux, but not on a
notebook.
--- Ruben Safir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Mon, 2005-06-13 at 10:59, Greg Woodhouse wrote:
I know that one reason I have tended to shy away from
If you want certified and supported hardware with Linux, see
http://h10018.www1.hp.com/wwsolutions/linux/products/clients/clientscert-suse.html
for HP notebooks certified on Linux. If you want a laptop with Linux
pre-loaded, you will probably need to order off the web or by phone.
Walmart
I buy everything preinstalled, including recently from Dell and HPP,
although my favorite laptop is the Sony Picture Book I brought from
Emperor Linux.
Those guys are miracle workers.
Ruben
On Mon, 2005-06-13 at 11:41, K.S. Bhaskar wrote:
If you want certified and supported hardware with
So, basically SUSE is it...but that's sure an improvement over what I
found last time I looked -- which was nothing.
I don't know a think about SUSE, the only distribution I've worked with
is Red Hat. But I appreciate this link. I'll look into it.
--- K.S. Bhaskar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
If
On Mon, 2005-06-13 at 11:16, Greg Woodhouse wrote:
I've never heard of emperor Linux. I called Dell (and HP, and IBM).
Dell, for example, told me that they support Linux, but not on a
notebook.
Talk to a different sales rep. It's not in their main line. Also, if
you have a cooperate
On Fri, 10 Jun 2005, Richard G. DAVIS wrote:
I understand the dichotomy Gregory mentions, and I agree with the views he
has expressed.
I quite agree with the basic thread of what Richrd has said in this
exchange. In fact we have put that exzct situation to both a website on
the EHR here at
Why do you need support? I have Windows XP on my
notebook. I never expect anything from Windows
(except for the occasional updates that consistently
remove functionality from my OS).
Kevin
--- Greg Woodhouse [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
I've never heard of emperor Linux. I called Dell
(and HP,
Yes, but if your or the the vendor are paying an M$tax for software that
you don't use (which can happen if your vendor buys from another vendor
with XP pre-installed and then installs Linux over it), that is more
dollars that can be used to generate spread FUD innuendo.
-- Bhaskar
Ruben
Now, that's whst I call a web site!
--- A. Forrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Fri, 10 Jun 2005, Richard G. DAVIS wrote:
I understand the dichotomy Gregory mentions, and I agree with the
views he
has expressed.
I quite agree with the basic thread of what Richrd has said in this
Toppenberg
Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 12:20 PM
To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] == VistaWeb Missing Apps ==
Why do you need support? I have Windows XP on my
notebook. I never expect anything from Windows
(except for the occasional updates
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Why do you need support? I have Windows XP on my
notebook. I
.
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Toppenberg
Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 12:20 PM
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Apps ==
Why do you need support? I have Windows XP
On Mon, 2005-06-13 at 12:56, Kevin Toppenberg wrote:
LOL.
My kids are 5 and 7. Already I am teaching them that
the reason their computers (windows based) don't work
the way they want them to is Because Bill Gates is
Evil. LOL
I never teach my kids to hate ;)
13, 2005 12:20 PM
To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] == VistaWeb Missing
Apps ==
Why do you need support? I have Windows XP on my
notebook. I never expect anything from Windows
(except for the occasional updates that consistently
remove functionality from
You have to be told?
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Milligan
Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 1:11 PM
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Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] == VistaWeb Missing Apps ==
What does this discussion have
, 13 Jun 2005 13:11:18 -0400
To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] == VistaWeb Missing Apps ==
What does this discussion have to do with VistA or with the specific
subject of this post VistaWeb Missing Apps?
Lloyd
Joseph.Gillon wrote:
Getting more and more interesting. So what's the state of the art these
days in hierarchical/M databases? Is anyone trying to fix the problems like
them being difficult to query?
I am working to develop general web based query capabilities for MUMPS that can
take
advantage
.
/David.
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Woodhouse
Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 1:56 PM
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Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] == VistaWeb Missing Apps ==
The way things are going, I'm beginning to wish
Of Greg
Woodhouse
Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 1:56 PM
To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] == VistaWeb Missing Apps ==
The way things are going, I'm beginning to wish every message
containint the word Microsoft (or any of its variations) was sent
@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] == VistaWeb Missing Apps ==
The way things are going, I'm beginning to wish every message
containint the word Microsoft (or any of its variations) was sent on
to the moderator for approval. I know Microsoft isn't terribly popular
around here, but do we
Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] == VistaWeb Missing Apps ==
On Mon, Jun 13, 2005 at 05:48:43PM -0400, David Sommers wrote:
People that express strong anti-Microsoft or anti-Bill always strike a
nerve with me.
I can understand that, as a user, a product may not work as advertised
or as you intended
I realize that individuals among us have strong feelings for and against
different software vendors, products, business models and philosphies.
But one of the things this community has avoided in the past is a flame
war. I hope I speak for many who would like to keep it that way. Let
us feel
Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] == VistaWeb Missing Apps ==
The way things are going, I'm beginning to wish every message
containint the word Microsoft (or any of its variations) was sent on
to the moderator for approval. I know Microsoft isn't terribly popular
around here, but do we need
.
That eliminates a lot of software, not just MS's.
Ruben
Jim
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for taking the time.
Chris
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To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net
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Chris -
I cannot really comment on the history of CHCS II
] == VistaWeb Missing Apps ==
So, basically SUSE is it...but that's sure an improvement over what I
found last time I looked -- which was nothing.
I don't know a think about SUSE, the only distribution I've worked with
is Red Hat. But I appreciate this link. I'll look into it.
--- K.S
@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] == VistaWeb Missing
Apps ==
The way things are going, I'm beginning to wish
every message
containint the word Microsoft (or any of its
variations) was sent on
to the moderator for approval. I know Microsoft
isn't terribly popular
around
already solved it.
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Safir
Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2005 7:26 PM
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Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] == VistaWeb Missing Apps ==
On Sun, Jun 12, 2005 at 07:15:38PM -0400
Comments about failed projects based on differing technologies.
Comments on speed of that vs speed of this.
Comments saying this thing bites and this other thing is...
Whoa - slow down...
I don't hold a PHD in database design but I do know:
1) A project fails for many more reasons than
Sommers [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Saturday, June 11, 2005 11:07 PM
Subject: RE: [Hardhats-members] == VistaWeb Missing Apps ==
Comments about failed projects based on differing technologies.
Comments on speed of that vs speed of this.
Comments saying
@lists.sourceforge.net
Sent: Saturday, June 11, 2005 5:22 PM
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Yes, it will be interesting to see what can be done with Cache. We're
looking into the patient screening issue I mentioned previously, for
example.
It's interesting, I never
Safir
Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2005 12:23 AM
To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: RE: [Hardhats-members] == VistaWeb Missing Apps ==
Yes, Oracle is expensive, perhaps prohibitively so. Is that the only game
in town, I wonder? Surely there's something between SQL Server and
Oracle
: RE: [Hardhats-members] == VistaWeb Missing Apps ==
Yes, Oracle is expensive, perhaps prohibitively so. Is that the only game
in town, I wonder? Surely there's something between SQL Server and
Oracle?
You mean aside from Postgres, Mysql and others?
Ruben
: Sunday, June 12, 2005 4:11 AM
To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] == VistaWeb Missing Apps ==
David;
The failure of CHCS II was not just one failure but a series of nearly 10
successive failures where the only criterion was that the solution could not
be MUMPS
of the money thrown at other
solutions could be spent of new MUMPS development, imagine what could be
done.
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10:56 AM
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Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] == VistaWeb Missing Apps ==
Greg;
What I was saying is that the type of study you are talking about can
probably never be done because;
1) The study you are asking for costs money, (the money has to come from
.
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From: Gregory Woodhouse
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Apps ==
I agree. Most vendors don't pay much attention to
the existence of
MUMPS
It would be interesting to see a well designed study of the
performance characteristics of GTM (say) and MySQL (but let's be sure
it isn't an exercise in comparing apples and oranges).
I would expect GTM to fare quite well in such a study. I would also
expect to see some surprises.
Oh,
] == VistaWeb Missing Apps ==
However, I believe the fundamental issue is less a technical matter and
more
an natural 'tension' between concerns for operational
effectiveness--delivery of quality health care, and the interest in
administrative IT that arises from management. These two groups in most
On Sun, Jun 12, 2005 at 12:50:31PM -0600, James Gray wrote:
Perhaps I should wait and read all of the responses before responding, but
Ruben, I am sure you have missed the point that Richard Davis was making.
The conflict he refers to is not between IT professionals and the end
users, but a
Chris Richardson wrote:
... The Koreans did publish the results of one benchmark
they did in one of the Last MUG Quarterlies. The results were astounding.
Same hardware, same load, same task took the relationals 6 hours or more to
complete. MUMPS took something less than one hour to
] On Behalf Of Ruben
Safir
Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2005 12:23 AM
To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: RE: [Hardhats-members] == VistaWeb Missing Apps ==
Yes, Oracle is expensive, perhaps prohibitively so. Is that the only
game
in town, I wonder? Surely there's something between SQL Server
:11 AM
To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] == VistaWeb Missing Apps ==
David;
The failure of CHCS II was not just one failure but a series of nearly
10
successive failures where the only criterion was that the solution could
not
be MUMPS. I lived it. I
@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] == VistaWeb Missing Apps ==
It would be interesting to see a well designed study of the
performance characteristics of GTM (say) and MySQL (but let's be sure
it isn't an exercise in comparing apples and oranges).
I would expect GTM to fare quite well
Well, I tend to shy away from freebies because of the support issues.
This has no place in a serious discussion of issues. Support? From
Microsoft? When Seimans know they have have you by the gonads and
you've signed an exclusive contract with them for a healthcare system,
when do you expect
Do you compare the designed function or pure benchmarking? What's
important, filling a Global/Table with 100,000 bits of data and sorting
it? Or pulling up a 200 page catalog of products for 1,000 users? One
seems more practical than the other.
David
Hello :)
this is a mistake. They
: [Hardhats-members] == VistaWeb Missing Apps ==
Getting more and more interesting. So what's the state of the art these
days in hierarchical/M databases? Is anyone trying to fix the problems like
them being difficult to query?
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Here's a fine example: Interoperability between VistA/M and other
systems.
There is never any reason to have an interoperability problem other than
when a company decides it is in their best interests to obscure
something. The most basic principle of Computer Sciences, as proven by
the
SQL may shine for a simple query, but you let the relationships get
a little more sophisticated and the SQL statement will need to be as
well. A lot of real world problems result in complex solutions, with
complex data representations, relational or otherwise. It sometimes
takes a skilled,
: [Hardhats-members] == VistaWeb Missing Apps ==
SQL may shine for a simple query, but you let the relationships get
a little more sophisticated and the SQL statement will need to be as
well. A lot of real world problems result in complex solutions, with
complex data representations, relational
On Sun, Jun 12, 2005 at 07:15:38PM -0400, GARY MONGER wrote:
Your friends on Wall Street employ quite a few programmers, which they keep
very busy, some even with M. SQL does not mean you get your data any easier
or faster,
That is not the purpsoe of a database. A database needs to
to extract that meaning.
Best wishes; Chris
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Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2005 4:26 PM
Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] == VistaWeb Missing Apps ==
On Sun, Jun 12, 2005 at 07:15:38PM -0400
I was initially surprised to learn that MUMPS was being used for
financial/banking applications, but when you think about it, it makes
sense. The patterns of use and data organization have a lot in common
with health information systems.
===
Gregory Woodhouse
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And the end
Greg;
How do you think Fidelity (Sanchez and GT.m) makes their money?
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I
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G. DAVIS
Sent: Saturday, June 11, 2005 12:18 AM
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Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] == VistaWeb Missing Apps ==
I understand the dichotomy Gregory mentions, and I agree with the views he
has expressed
: [Hardhats-members] == VistaWeb Missing Apps ==
I understand the dichotomy Gregory mentions, and I agree with the views
he has expressed.
However, I believe the fundamental issue is less a technical matter and
more an natural 'tension' between concerns for operational
effectiveness--delivery
Actually, I think VistA's growing pains (or death throes, depending
on your point of view), really has much less to do with the
underlying language and DBMS than many suppose. The trouble is that
it is such an obvious difference between VistA and some other systems
that we tend to focus on
I'm just on my way out the door right now, but while I think the relational model sometimes gets a raw deal around here, I also agree that it is not the be and end all of database technology. If you try and sit down and work through the mathematics, you'll quickly find that object models have
:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nancy
Anthracite
Sent: Saturday, June 11, 2005 3:00 PM
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It seem to me that you do want is an M database that is reengineered for
VistA
because of its speed, easier
, June 11, 2005 5:22 PM
Subject: RE: [Hardhats-members] == VistaWeb Missing Apps ==
Yes, it will be interesting to see what can be done with Cache. We're
looking into the patient screening issue I mentioned previously, for
example.
It's interesting, I never heard of this M/VistA being faster
it will take a good long time to traverse that data as a
relational
database.
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Yes
,
cause it will take a good long time to traverse that data as a
relational
database.
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Subject: RE: [Hardhats-members] == VistaWeb Missing Apps ==
Yes
Relational databases are slower and that has long been recognized, and they
require a lot more work to maintain and design. Oracle is probably the
gorilla in that field and is very expensive and slow. Yea, maybe you get
some pretty reports from it, but not likely in real time.
Not
Yes, Oracle is expensive, perhaps prohibitively so. Is that the only game
in town, I wonder? Surely there's something between SQL Server and Oracle?
You mean aside from Postgres, Mysql and others?
Ruben
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Actually I think the VA has plans to be able to use any number of SQL
databases when they are done with this rehosting, but I doubt that any SQL
database will beat the speed of M. After all, it was specifically designed
for use in this setting. Relational databases are going to be better for
I use MySQL and am pretty happy with it.
===
Gregory Woodhouse
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A practical man is a man who practices the errors of his
forefathers. -- Benjamin Disraeli
On Jun 11, 2005, at 9:23 PM, Ruben Safir wrote:
Yes, Oracle is expensive, perhaps prohibitively so. Is that the
: Thursday, June 09, 2005 10:45
PMTo: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.netSubject: RE:
[Hardhats-members] == VistaWeb Missing Apps ==
Actually, the
standardization work is being done VistA M-side.
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This is why I've never been very enamored of the original name of VistA, Decentralized Hospital Computer System (DHCP). It wasn't decentralized at all, but rather each DHCP system was one of a number of independent, facility level systems. An ant colony is an example of a decentralized system:
The significant opportunity we have outside of the VA is to avoid
repeating the data problem. How can that best be done? I think Greg's
option is on targetnot sure if this would be called a federated
model...
Joseph
There is, of course, another option, one that
has been explored in a
and play with our cool software and hardware. :-)
Regards,
Richard.
From: Joseph Dal Molin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 19:36:54 -0400
To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] == VistaWeb Missing
However, I believe the fundamental issue is less a technical matter and more
an natural 'tension' between concerns for operational
effectiveness--delivery of quality health care, and the interest in
administrative IT that arises from management. These two groups in most any
enterprise you
] == VistaWeb Missing Apps ==
Richard Sowinski wrote:
The reason I have asked people on this list if they have VistaWeb up and
running, is because I suspect
they underestimate the infrastructure required under the hood, to make
it,
or RDV run.
I also suspect, some have misconstrued what VistaWeb is. I think
.
- Rich
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Self
Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2005 5:55 PM
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Subject: RE: [Hardhats-members] == VistaWeb Missing Apps ==
Richard Sowinski wrote:
The reason I have asked
on, JosephSent: Thursday, June 09, 2005 1:06
PMTo: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.netSubject: RE:
[Hardhats-members] == VistaWeb Missing Apps ==
First, I should
mention that if you are a VA employee be careful what you say to this
guy. He's a biased, sensationalist
: [Hardhats-members] ==
VistaWeb Missing Apps ==
Joe,
It's good to see you on Hardhats. What
took you so long ?
Sorry about hunt and peck
analogy it's just the most apt description of what I see users doing when they
use these products.
It's just my bias, I think
.
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Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2005 1:06
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VistaWeb Missing Apps ==
Thats an interesting problem you
pose. Did you
and easy use.
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Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2005 1:06
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Subject: RE: [Hardhats-members] ==
VistaWeb Missing Apps ==
Thats an interesting problem you
@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: RE: [Hardhats-members] ==
VistaWeb Missing Apps ==
Regarding the nonstandard note titles and
the difficulties that poses ... there have actually been some significant
peer-reviewed journal articles by some VA folks on that very issue. In
fact, standardization of note
:24
PM
To: 'hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net'
Subject: RE: [Hardhats-members] ==
VistaWeb Missing Apps ==
Yep. One of the many, very valid
reasons the VA is replacing VistA, and one not mentioned, I believe, in the St.
Pete Times article.
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[mailto:[EMAIL
Moreshead
Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2005 8:50
PM
To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: RE: [Hardhats-members] ==
VistaWeb Missing Apps ==
Oh!? That is a data/terminology
standardization issue and not particularly relevant to replacing Vista. This can be an issue in any system
Re MPI, Subscription Control file, etc.:
VistAWeb makes
exactly the same use of the MPI as RDV. So if you have RDV working you
should have not problem with VW, and conversely.
I have no idea what
the Subscription Contol file is, and I wrote VW, from which I conclude you dont
need it.
Thanks for the clarification Joe.
I have VistA (Cache) installed in a server and I'm accessing it from my
network. I would like to prove VistaWeb in this setting, just to be able to
show diferent GUIs to people who could decide to addopt Vista for the Ministry
of Health in Mexico.
Is this
] == VistaWeb Missing Apps ==
Thanks for the clarification Joe.
I have VistA (Cache) installed in a server and I'm accessing it from my
network. I would like to prove VistaWeb in this setting, just to be able to
show diferent GUIs to people who could decide to addopt Vista for the
Ministry
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The subscription control file contains the
list of sites the patient has been treated at. I suspect you
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So the subscription
control file is the file that is updated by the MPI? Is it the file I
read
Richard Sowinski wrote:
The reason I have asked people on this list if they have VistaWeb up and
running, is because I suspect
they underestimate the infrastructure required under the hood, to make it,
or RDV run.
I also suspect, some have misconstrued what VistaWeb is. I think some of
them think
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The installation manual for VistaWeb says
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Has anyone gotten VistaWeb to function outside of VA ?
I haven't looked really closely
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