Mark Snyder wrote:
snip
It's one thing to assume that state employee wages won't rise, but that
only
represents about 10% of the budget. It's quite another to assume that the
costs of the various other goods and services that are purchased by the
State of Minnesota will remain flat for the
Good news for Minneapolis, the recentState of
Minnesotarevenueforecast shows only a deficit of$185,000,000
for 2004. Unless you believe the conservatives (heaven forbid)that the
deficit could swell to $400,000,000 by February 2004. Minneapolis, being the
slowest moving politicaltarget
the public's
business.
Enjoy
the holidays and batten the hatches.
Michael Hohmann
Linden
Hills
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of LEE EKLUNDSent:
Wednesday, December 10, 2003 10:46 AMTo: Issues
ListSubject: [Mpls] Local Government Aid
Um, point of information:
It has actually been the DFL caucus that has been complaining about the
overly optimistic revenue forecast. Namely because Republican leaders pulled
the nifty stunt of ignoring inflation when preparing the budget last
session.
It's one thing to assume that state
The conversations about the relative "wealth" of Minneapolis as measured by its value of real estate versus the total in the state and the number of people in Minneapolis as a proportion of the state's total population are interesting, but don't tell the whole story.
When I worked or the City
I think this discussion
of LGA shows that there is a real need to revamp the formula, whether or not the
program is cut. For suburban cities with net outflow in LGA, there needs to be
a clear reason why the money is paid and how that is calculated.
I also dont think Minneapolis
In a message dated 2/13/03 6:00:36 AM Pacific Standard Time,
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The City's property taxes will simply be overwhelmed if there is no help
from
the state to deal with these very real situations. What every happened
to:
From each according to his ability; to
John Rocker adds:
I also dont think Minneapolis residents are going to win over the hearts
of legislators by quoting Karl Marx's dogma, From each according to his
ability, to each according to his needs.
No wonder some legislators shake their heads at the mention of Mpls. and
it's 'needs.'
Michael Hohmann wrote:
John Rocker adds:
I also dont think Minneapolis residents are going to win over the hearts
of legislators by quoting Karl Marx's dogma, From each according to his
ability, to each according to his needs.
WM: It's pretty tough to cozy up to a writer who can make a
Don Jorovsky writes:
.the services you receive, or the education a child receives, should
not be based so heavily on the relative property wealth of the area in
which you happen to live.
Vicky Heller responds:
Mr. Jorovsky has this backwards.
Minneapolis is the RICHEST city in the state
Vicky writes:
Minneapolis is the RICHEST city in the state (20% of the taxable real
estate, but only 11% of the population.)
What is the source of this data? For example, the population figure is
wrong. Minneapolis had 382,618 people in the 2000 Census
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From: David Brauer
Vicky writes:
Minneapolis is the RICHEST city in the state (20% of the taxable real
estate, but only 11% of the population.)
What is the source of this data? For example, the population figure is
wrong. Minneapolis had 382,618 people in the
David Brauer asks: What is the source of this data in response to my
claim that Minneapolis is the richest City in Minnesota.
Vicky Heller answers:
The specific numbers I used came from Council Member Dean Zimmerman on one
of the Minneapolis Property Rights TV shows shortly before the last
Vicky writes:
As David correctly points out, Minneapolis is even RICHER NOW.
This is not what I said. I noted that using Census figures, Minneapolis has
a smaller share of the state's population than she claimed.
I said nothing about richness, or lack thereof. As Terrell Brown pointed
out,
Apparently I can't type today. Minneapolis and St. Paul have 24.8% of
the metro area population, not the 200-plus number that I wrote earlier.
Terrell Brown
(still in Loring Park ... I got that right)
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From: Brown, Terrell
-Original Message-
From: David
David Brauer wrote:
And even if we DO have a higher share of the taxable wealth than people
(which I'm not conceding) that doesn't measure need - the number of poor,
older infrastructure, regional amenities than non-residents use but don't
pay for - that are a key, legitimate factor behind
I regret the use of harsh language I employed in my post. Keith Reitman
NearNorth
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writes:
Received a complaint about this:
Don, you make the partisan political
pandering, and Dynafying,
Hello Andy:
It is an even larger percentage of the St. Paul and
Duluth budgets. I believe 16% for St. Paul and 19% for
Duluth, 12% Minneapolis.
Ken Bradley Corcoran Neighborhood
--- Don Jorovsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Andy writes:
Thank yourselves for electing Pat Awada over Carol
A couple of things struck me about Pat Awada's report. First was her
conclusion that the more money given to local governments the more they
spend which I file under Duh!.
I think she was trying to say that the spending is the result of the giving
as opposed to need. This may be, but is not
r majority ofsuburbanites. To assume that an across the board (in LGA) cut affects the suburbs and urban areas equally is absurd.
Dennis Plante
Jordan
From: "Jim MCGUIRE" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [Mpls] Local Government Aid
Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2003
Dennis Plante, Jim McGuire and Terrell Brown have all made some excellent points today about Local Government Aid. (see snips below). Minneapolis is not an island.People come into the city all the time for a variety of reasons. They use city parks that are paid for bycity property taxes. They
Is the fiscal disparities act still in effect? If so, is Minneapolis
losing or gaining under the law?
Shawne FitzGerald
Powderhorn
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The first footnote on the first page says The OSA grouped three
current city services: general government, public safety, and streets
and highways together to form essential current services. All other
current services are called non-essential current services for the
purposes of this study. I'm
Andy writes: Thank yourselves for electing Pat Awada over Carol Johnson.Andy DriscollSaint Paul Don adds: Actually, Minneapolis voters voted by a wide margin for Carol Johnson over Pat Awada -- 85,249 to 32,450. That's a margin of 72 to 28, although both of the percentages would be a
In a message dated 2/10/03 5:34:34 PM Pacific Standard Time,
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Andy writes:
Thank yourselves for electing Pat Awada over Carol Johnson.
Andy Driscoll
Saint Paul
Don adds:
Actually, Minneapolis voters voted by a wide margin for
Carol Johnson
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