killed (IMHO) is WiMAX, which has pretty much sunk without a trace.
Cheers
Ken
From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On
Behalf Of David Connors
Sent: Tuesday, 31 December 2013 2:05 PM
To: ozDotNet
Subject: Re: NBN Petition
It is great that you managed to get
, 31 December 2013 1:05 PM
To: ozDotNet
Subject: Re: NBN Petition
It is great that you managed to get it sorted - I'd always thought it was an
artificial/market segmentation thing by T to now cannibalise EoC/fibre business
services.
In other interesting Internet related news, the last
On Tue, Dec 31, 2013 at 2:10 PM, Stephen Price step...@perthprojects.comwrote:
Is that the one with the colour touch screen?
Nah, the black and white screen pre-paid one. I just put my post-paid
company SIM in it and gave someone else in the office the 5GB it came with.
$129 outright for the
On Tue, Dec 31, 2013 at 1:33 PM, GregAtGregLowDotCom g...@greglow.comwrote:
What devices will be needed for the 700MHz network?
New everything (phone, USB dongles etc).
At present, I find Telstra’s 4G network around the country nearly works as
well as their 3G network was in the early
: 19/12/2013 8:43
To: ozDotNetmailto:ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com
Subject: Re: NBN Petition
Looks like my brother's calculations have been confirmed independently.
See:
http://www.theage.com.au/it-pro/government-it/the-1b-difference-between-labors-and-the-new-nbn-and-the-big-catch-20131219-hv659.html
2013 9:12 AM
To: 'ozDotNet'
Subject: RE: NBN Petition
Oh, I wasn’t sure what the point of the iiNet invoice was.
I was more interested in what you were claiming about HFC/cable.
One issue I have with cable is that the most productive members of the
community using the Internet
2013 1:19 PM
*To:* ozDotNet
*Subject:* Re: NBN Petition
On 16 December 2013 09:01, Tony Wright tonyw...@gmail.com wrote:
And why are you still ranting on about CVC. Most of us would have been
happy to pay the extra $6.66 CVC fee to get a 1Gbps connection thanks.
Yeah at 3000:1 contention
On 16 December 2013 22:33, Tony Wright tonyw...@gmail.com wrote:
No, the fact that you went completely out of your way to shoot down the
Labor NBN without a single critical word of the Liberal plan is what makes
you partisan.
Pretty sure I was critical of CVC charges, which inherently was a
: Tuesday, 17 December 2013 12:04 AM
To: ozDotNet
Subject: Re: NBN Petition
On 16 December 2013 22:33, Tony Wright tonyw...@gmail.com
mailto:tonyw...@gmail.com wrote:
No, the fact that you went completely out of your way to shoot down the
Labor NBN without a single critical word of the Liberal plan
Of Tony Wright
Sent: Tuesday, 17 December 2013 9:12 AM
To: 'ozDotNet'
Subject: RE: NBN Petition
Oh, I wasn’t sure what the point of the iiNet invoice was.
I was more interested in what you were claiming about HFC/cable.
One issue I have with cable is that the most productive members
: Tuesday, 17 December 2013 9:12 AM
To: 'ozDotNet'
Subject: RE: NBN Petition
Oh, I wasn’t sure what the point of the iiNet invoice was.
I was more interested in what you were claiming about HFC/cable.
One issue I have with cable is that the most productive members of the
community using
] On
Behalf Of Tony Wright
Sent: Saturday, 14 December 2013 3:13 PM
To: 'ozDotNet'
Subject: RE: NBN Petition
One thing I’ve learnt from this lot is that you can’t believe a word they say.
Don’t like the Labor NBN? Then tell us what you’re going to do. No, before the
election. Then after
On 15 December 2013 20:04, Ken Schaefer k...@adopenstatic.com wrote:
I can’t see any benefit to being forced onto HFC. It’s not a network
designed to deliver fast broadband – it’s a network designed to multicast
TV.
A hertz is a hertz.
Those in the HFC areas will end up with the worst
could ever come up with a decent NBN for the SAME dollars? What were
you thinking?
T.
From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On
Behalf Of David Connors
Sent: Monday, 16 December 2013 9:18 AM
To: ozDotNet
Subject: Re: NBN Petition
On 15 December 2013
From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On
Behalf Of David Connors
Sent: Monday, 16 December 2013 9:18 AM
To: ozDotNet
Subject: Re: NBN Petition
On 15 December 2013 20:04, Ken Schaefer
k...@adopenstatic.commailto:k...@adopenstatic.com wrote:
I can’t see any
CVC fee to get a 1Gbps connection thanks.
T.
From: Tony Wright [mailto:tonyw...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, 16 December 2013 9:39 AM
To: 'ozDotNet'
Subject: RE: NBN Petition
Wow, are you still pushing your partisan rant? How can you possibly stand up
for such a piece of technological
[mailto:
ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *Tony Wright
*Sent:* Saturday, 7 December 2013 6:19 PM
*To:* David Connors; ozDotNet
*Subject:* Re: NBN Petition
If anyone is interested, The Age has an article that talks about how they
are moving to 1GB on the NBN:
http
*)
---
From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com]
On Behalf Of Scott Barnes
Sent: Monday, 16 December 2013 11:37 AM
To: ozDotNet
Subject: Re: NBN Petition
OptiComm are the weak link in this FTTH .. Sit on Whirlpool long enough
you'll find that OptiComm are the bane
On 16 December 2013 09:01, Tony Wright tonyw...@gmail.com wrote:
And why are you still ranting on about CVC. Most of us would have been
happy to pay the extra $6.66 CVC fee to get a 1Gbps connection thanks.
Yeah at 3000:1 contention ratio FTW (i.e 1/3 of a mbps per customer
committed
hope your blind one-eyed support was worth it.
T.
From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On
Behalf Of David Connors
Sent: Monday, 16 December 2013 1:19 PM
To: ozDotNet
Subject: Re: NBN Petition
On 16 December 2013 09:01, Tony Wright tonyw
of
Foxtel.
From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On
Behalf Of Ken Schaefer
Sent: Friday, 13 December 2013 8:49 PM
To: ozDotNet
Subject: RE: NBN Petition
I’m guessing we’ll all lose ADSL once the “NBN” (sic) comes to your HFC area.
Copper will be retained
...@ozdotnet.com]
On Behalf Of Ken Schaefer
Sent: Thursday, 12 December 2013 9:19 PM
To: ozDotNet
Subject: RE: NBN Petition
That's in the Strategic Review (as a scenario on page 100). How will that
1gbps be delivered? By replacing everything with FTTP. Apparently the cost
of that will be $4bn
:00 AM
To: ozDotNet
Subject: RE: NBN Petition
You're lucky to have a telecommunications infrastructure economics analyst in
the family to advise you on these matters.
On Dec 13, 2013 7:57 AM, Tony Wright tonyw...@gmail.com
mailto:tonyw...@gmail.com wrote:
It’s actually worse than that Ken
...@ozdotnet.com]
On Behalf Of Joseph Cooney
Sent: Friday, 13 December 2013 9:00 AM
To: ozDotNet
Subject: RE: NBN Petition
You're lucky to have a telecommunications infrastructure economics analyst
in the family to advise you on these matters.
On Dec 13, 2013 7:57 AM, Tony Wright tonyw...@gmail.com
December 2013 5:02 PM
To: 'ozDotNet'
Subject: RE: NBN Petition
It looks like Renai Lemay, publisher of delimeter.com.au, seen as a major
proponent of the Liberal version of the NBN has come out with a scathing
rejection of the new NBN
http://delimiter.com.au/2013/12/12/please-accept-apologies
, I’ll have to start
looking around Brunswick before the prices rise (further.)
T.
From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On
Behalf Of GregAtGregLowDotCom
Sent: Friday, 13 December 2013 5:10 PM
To: 'ozDotNet'
Subject: RE: NBN Petition
It’s not even
: RE: NBN Petition
It looks like Renai Lemay, publisher of delimeter.com.au, seen as a major
proponent of the Liberal version of the NBN has come out with a scathing
rejection of the new NBN
http://delimiter.com.au/2013/12/12/please-accept-apologies-wrong-turnbull/
One of the biggest
[mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com]
On Behalf Of anthonyatsmall...@mail.com
Sent: Tuesday, 10 December 2013 9:35 PM
To: 'ozDotNet'
Subject: RE: NBN Petition
Not sure if anyone is aware or already using it..but i do not have NBN but
found that a company called opticomm can install fibre and an ISP like
the FTTP now, and avoid crippling vast
portions of community for the next 17 years.
Cheers
Ken
From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On
Behalf Of GregAtGregLowDotCom
Sent: Wednesday, 11 December 2013 7:41 PM
To: 'ozDotNet'
Subject: RE: NBN Petition
To: GregAtGregLowDotCom; ozDotNet
Subject: RE: NBN Petition
Well, Turnbull's strategic review is out. And whilst we're all likely to get
the rubbish mixed-technology mix option (some FTTP, some FTTN and some HFC)
due to the headline cost of building the network, the NPV savings over
FTTP
[mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com]
On Behalf Of GregAtGregLowDotCom
Sent: Thursday, 12 December 2013 3:11 PM
To: 'Ken Schaefer'; ozDotNet
Subject: RE: NBN Petition
Thanks for the update Ken. Haven't read it yet but will do so.
I'd love to see FTTP done if it can be rolled out in a commercial way
Of GregAtGregLowDotCom
Sent: Thursday, 12 December 2013 3:11 PM
To: Ken Schaefer; ozDotNet
Subject: RE: NBN Petition
Thanks for the update Ken. Haven't read it yet but will do so.
I'd love to see FTTP done if it can be rolled out in a commercial way, with
commercial timeframes. The previous plan sounded nice
From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On
Behalf Of GregAtGregLowDotCom
Sent: Thursday, 12 December 2013 3:51 PM
To: ozDotNet
Subject: RE: NBN Petition
not going to be there in my working life might not be the words you're
looking for but the point
Sent: Thursday, 12 December 2013 4:12 PM
To: ozDotNet
Subject: RE: NBN Petition
From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com
[mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of GregAtGregLowDotCom
Sent: Thursday, 12 December 2013 3:51 PM
To: ozDotNet
Subject
On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 1:12 PM, Ken Schaefer k...@adopenstatic.com wrote:
*From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:
ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *GregAtGregLowDotCom
*Sent:* Thursday, 12 December 2013 3:51 PM
*To:* ozDotNet
*Subject:* RE: NBN Petition
From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On
Behalf Of GregAtGregLowDotCom
Sent: Thursday, 12 December 2013 4:38 PM
To: ozDotNet
Subject: RE: NBN Petition
If you were trying to run a commercial business based on rolling out an NBN,
where would you start? Would
-boun...@ozdotnet.com]
On Behalf Of Ken Schaefer
Sent: Thursday, 12 December 2013 4:51 PM
To: g...@greglow.com; ozDotNet
Subject: RE: NBN Petition
From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com
[mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf
From: Tony Wright [mailto:tonyw...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, 12 December 2013 5:01 PM
To: 'ozDotNet'; GregAtGregLowDotCom
Subject: RE: NBN Petition
Of course, I'm interested in why they are so interested in building
non-productive infrastructure, such as roads, that we spend, maybe 1 hour
:14 PM
To: 'Tony Wright'; 'ozDotNet'
Subject: RE: NBN Petition
I love the idea of the country building infrastructure. It's the speed of
public projects here that concerns me.
For example, we've been talking about high-speed rail for how long? China
started planning in the early 1990's
. The statement was factually correct but based on a complete lie.
Sent from my Windows Phone
_
From: David Connors
Sent: 12/11/2013 8:38 PM
To: ozDotNet
Subject: Re: NBN Petition
On 12 November 2013 17:50, Tony Wright tonyw...@gmail.com wrote:
(Mind you, this is what is supposed
correct but based on a complete lie.
Sent from my Windows Phone
--
From: David Connors
Sent: 12/11/2013 8:38 PM
To: ozDotNet
Subject: Re: NBN Petition
On 12 November 2013 17:50, Tony Wright tonyw...@gmail.com wrote:
(Mind you, this is what is supposed
On 13 November 2013 15:24, Ken Schaefer k...@adopenstatic.com wrote:
Half of what you’re talking about (aka the charges) are a simple
financial construct that can be changed at any time.
[ ... ]
You guys are arguing about little short-term implementation details in an
infrastructure
into for decades.
Cheers
Ken
From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On
Behalf Of David Connors
Sent: Thursday, 14 November 2013 8:27 AM
To: ozDotNet
Subject: Re: NBN Petition
On 13 November 2013 15:24, Ken Schaefer
k...@adopenstatic.commailto:k
On 12 November 2013 17:50, Tony Wright tonyw...@gmail.com wrote:
(Mind you, this is what is supposed to be in the NBN plan -
The NBNCo Corporate Plan contains these examples on page 67:
* The 1Gbps AVC price will fall from $150 to $90 (40% decrease) while the
average speed increases from
Connors
Sent: 12/11/2013 8:38 PM
To: ozDotNet
Subject: Re: NBN Petition
On 12 November 2013 17:50, Tony Wright tonyw...@gmail.com wrote:
(Mind you, this is what is supposed to be in the NBN plan -
The NBNCo Corporate Plan contains these examples on page 67:
* The 1Gbps AVC price will fall from $150
On 12 November 2013 20:36, Tony Wright tonyw...@gmail.com wrote:
Its quite simple really. The whole premise of CVC being delivered to 93%
of the population is bogus and deceptive. This is the statement that was
suggested. The statement was factually correct but based on a complete lie.
Now
...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *Joseph Cooney
*Sent:* Tuesday, 12 November 2013 6:26 PM
*To:* ozDotNet
*Subject:* RE: NBN Petition
The price in other countries seems irrelevant. Those conditions don't
exist here, otherwise the service would exist already, and we wouldn't be
having this conversation
Wright
Cc: ozDotNet
Subject: Re: NBN Petition
On 12 November 2013 20:36, Tony Wright tonyw...@gmail.com wrote:
Its quite simple really. The whole premise of CVC being delivered to 93%
of the population is bogus and deceptive. This is the statement that was
suggested. The statement was factually
Deflect. Damned autocorrect.
Sent from my Windows Phone
--
From: Tony Wright
Sent: 13/11/2013 9:23 AM
To: David Connors
Cc: ozDotNet
Subject: RE: NBN Petition
Actually it was you trying to propagate Malcolm Turnbulls lie that a 1Gbps
was going to cost every household
8:23 AM
To: David Connors
Cc: ozDotNet
Subject: RE: NBN Petition
Actually it was you trying to propagate Malcolm Turnbulls lie that a 1Gbps
was going to cost every household $20,000. But keep going trying to reflect
from this lie, by all means.
Sent from my Windows Phone
_
From
practical, it was a statement designed to deceive
the public and it is complete and utter BS.
From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com]
On Behalf Of Paul Evrat
Sent: Wednesday, 13 November 2013 10:55 AM
To: 'ozDotNet'
Subject: RE: NBN Petition
Turnbull's point
10:55 AM
*To:* 'ozDotNet'
*Subject:* RE: NBN Petition
Turnbull’s point was - ‘don’t anyone think that the Labor NBN was going
to give everyone 100% always available unfettered 1 Gbps’ .. There’s no lie
in that ..
*From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [
mailto:ozdotnet-boun
that it’s going to cost them $20,000 per month, because it
isn’t.
From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On
Behalf Of David Connors
Sent: Wednesday, 13 November 2013 11:50 AM
To: ozDotNet
Subject: Re: NBN Petition
On 13 November 2013 10:26, Tony Wright tonyw
would not
continue?
Cheers
Ken
From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On
Behalf Of David Connors
Sent: Wednesday, 13 November 2013 11:50 AM
To: ozDotNet
Subject: Re: NBN Petition
On 13 November 2013 10:26, Tony Wright
tonyw...@gmail.commailto:tonyw...@gmail.com
On 13 November 2013 10:56, Ken Schaefer k...@adopenstatic.com wrote:
If the NBN lasts for as long as the copper network, then won’t these
prices fall over time? First we used to pay for a line that had no
internet capability at all. Then we started paying for 56bkps what we pay
for 8mbps
...@ozdotnet.com] On
Behalf Of David Connors
Sent: Wednesday, 13 November 2013 12:00 PM
To: ozDotNet
Subject: Re: NBN Petition
On 13 November 2013 10:56, Ken Schaefer
k...@adopenstatic.commailto:k...@adopenstatic.com wrote:
If the NBN lasts for as long as the copper network, then won’t these prices
On 13 November 2013 11:14, Ken Schaefer k...@adopenstatic.com wrote:
Even over 20+ years? I don’t think, 20+ years ago we had any real idea
how compute, storage, network and other infrastructure technologies were
specifically going to fall in cost per unit, but they have been rather
November 2013 3:59 PM
To: ozDotNet
Subject: Re: NBN Petition
On 13 November 2013 11:14, Ken Schaefer
k...@adopenstatic.commailto:k...@adopenstatic.com wrote:
Even over 20+ years? I don’t think, 20+ years ago we had any real idea how
compute, storage, network and other infrastructure technologies were
:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:
ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *Scott Barnes
*Sent:* Wednesday, 6 November 2013 8:30 PM
*To:* ozDotNet
*Subject:* Re: NBN Petition
But why not take the petition concept a different direction. How can
Google apply these strategies
2013 8:30 PM
*To:* ozDotNet
*Subject:* Re: NBN Petition
But why not take the petition concept a different direction. How can
Google apply these strategies in the US and not do it here in Australia
On 12 November 2013 10:57, Scott Barnes scott.bar...@gmail.com wrote:
Simon's pretty reasonable guy to... I had some major issues with my FTTH
with OptiComm and he personally rang me, worked the problem through and in
the end did everything but draw us all a mudmap back to OptiComm even
: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On
Behalf Of David Connors
Sent: Tuesday, 12 November 2013 12:19 PM
To: ozDotNet
Subject: Re: NBN Petition
On 12 November 2013 10:57, Scott Barnes scott.bar...@gmail.com
mailto:scott.bar...@gmail.com wrote:
Simon's pretty
On 12 November 2013 15:51, Tony Wright tonyw...@gmail.com wrote:
[ ... ]
That is a typically deceptive political response and is a load of complete
Liberal Party BS and Malcolm Turnbull lost any credibility he had with me
when he said it. It won’t cost $20,000 a month for ANY household. A
Wasn’t that exactly his point ?
From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On
Behalf Of Tony Wright
Sent: Tuesday, 12 November 2013 3:52 PM
To: 'ozDotNet'
Subject: RE: NBN Petition
On Lateline when he gave that interview I was watching and Malcolm Turnbull
: NBN Petition
On 12 November 2013 15:51, Tony Wright tonyw...@gmail.com
mailto:tonyw...@gmail.com wrote:
[ ... ]
That is a typically deceptive political response and is a load of complete
Liberal Party BS and Malcolm Turnbull lost any credibility he had with me when
he said
To: 'ozDotNet'
Subject: RE: NBN Petition
Wasn’t that exactly his point ?
From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com
[mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Tony Wright
Sent: Tuesday, 12 November 2013 3:52 PM
To: 'ozDotNet'
Subject: RE: NBN Petition
...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:
ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *David Connors
*Sent:* Tuesday, 12 November 2013 5:58 PM
*To:* ozDotNet
*Subject:* Re: NBN Petition
On 12 November 2013 15:51, Tony Wright tonyw...@gmail.com wrote:
[ ... ]
That is a typically deceptive political response
...@ozdotnet.com]
On Behalf Of Joseph Cooney
Sent: Tuesday, 12 November 2013 6:14 PM
To: ozDotNet
Subject: RE: NBN Petition
I'm confused. What WOULD a dedicated gigabit connection cost under the NBN?
On Nov 12, 2013 5:10 PM, Tony Wright tonyw...@gmail.com
mailto:tonyw...@gmail.com wrote:
It was deceptive
that it would cost $20,000 for every household.
It’s a blatant lie.
*From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:
ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *David Connors
*Sent:* Tuesday, 12 November 2013 5:58 PM
*To:* ozDotNet
*Subject:* Re: NBN Petition
On 12 November 2013
people to open their wallets.
*From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:
ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *Joseph Cooney
*Sent:* Tuesday, 12 November 2013 6:14 PM
*To:* ozDotNet
*Subject:* RE: NBN Petition
I'm confused. What WOULD a dedicated gigabit connection cost under
-on-a-copper-budget/
From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com]
On Behalf Of Joseph Cooney
Sent: Tuesday, 12 November 2013 6:26 PM
To: ozDotNet
Subject: RE: NBN Petition
The price in other countries seems irrelevant. Those conditions don't exist
here
Blah blah blah Govt suck.. Insert arm-chair economists / political science
rants..Jaded little mitch aren't I ;)
But why not take the petition concept a different direction. How can Google
apply these strategies in the US and not do it here in Australia? in that
are they piggy backing a better
Where did u get FTTH?
On Wednesday, November 6, 2013, Scott Barnes wrote:
Blah blah blah Govt suck.. Insert arm-chair economists / political science
rants..Jaded little mitch aren't I ;)
But why not take the petition concept a different direction. How can
Google apply these strategies in
http://www.fernbrookeridge.com.au/
And now I wait for the Ipswich jokes or that oh you live in Ipswich poor
people look of pitty ... to which I say ... I just downloaded 3gb in 10mins
from a crappy server...
---
Regards,
Scott Barnes
http://www.riagenic.com
On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 8:05 PM,
2013 8:30 PM
To: ozDotNet
Subject: Re: NBN Petition
But why not take the petition concept a different direction. How can Google
apply these strategies in the US and not do it here in Australia
government’s hostility to supporting such a venture
probably doesn’t help
*From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:
ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *Scott Barnes
*Sent:* Wednesday, 6 November 2013 8:30 PM
*To:* ozDotNet
*Subject:* Re: NBN Petition
But why not take the petition
On 05/11/2013 4:46 PM, Grant Maw grant@gmail.com wrote:
Forcing the govt to listen to the will of the people as issues arise
simply isn't practical, but hey, if you want to change the system so that
the government makes decisions using alternative methods (irrespective of
whether they are
From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On
Behalf Of David Connors
Sent: Tuesday, 5 November 2013 1:59 PM
To: ozDotNet
Subject: Re: NBN Petition
On 5 November 2013 10:16, David Burstin
david.burs...@gmail.commailto:david.burs...@gmail.com wrote:
On 05/11
:* Tuesday, 5 November 2013 1:59 PM
*To:* ozDotNet
*Subject:* Re: NBN Petition
On 5 November 2013 10:16, David Burstin david.burs...@gmail.com wrote:
On 05/11/2013 7:18 AM, David Connors da...@connors.com wrote:
They ran a pretty big petition on the 7th of Sep.
I find your version
2013 1:59 PM
*To:* ozDotNet
*Subject:* Re: NBN Petition
On 5 November 2013 10:16, David Burstin david.burs...@gmail.com wrote:
On 05/11/2013 7:18 AM, David Connors da...@connors.com wrote:
They ran a pretty big petition on the 7th of Sep.
I find your version of democracy very
...@ozdotnet.com] On
Behalf Of David Burela
Sent: Wednesday, 6 November 2013 7:53 AM
To: ozDotNet
Subject: Re: NBN Petition
We could solve all of Australia's problems with FTTB (Fibre To The Boat)
http://fttb.org/
-Burela
On 5 November 2013 06:45, Ken Schaefer
k...@adopenstatic.commailto:k
[mailto:
ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *David Connors
*Sent:* Tuesday, 5 November 2013 1:59 PM
*To:* ozDotNet
*Subject:* Re: NBN Petition
On 5 November 2013 10:16, David Burstin david.burs...@gmail.com
wrote:
On 05/11/2013 7:18 AM, David Connors da...@connors.com wrote
On 6 November 2013 13:26, Ken Schaefer k...@adopenstatic.com wrote:
LA decides to issue an RFP…for FTTP:
http://www.engadget.com/2013/11/05/los-angeles-citywide-wifi-fiber/
sarcasmMaybe we should get Turnbull to give them a call and tell them
that they’re going to be wasting their
270,000 signatures.
Lets hope that they continue with a fast NBN, rather than providing us with
something that is already obsolete.
-David Burela
On 11 September 2013 00:12, Tony Wright tonyw...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi all,
There is an online petition firing off at the moment, if anyone is
They ran a pretty big petition on the 7th of Sep.
David Connors
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Petitions are pre-internet way of saying We care ..today Petitions have
been depreciated for YouTube Views Facebook Mockery blah blah.
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On Tue, Nov 5, 2013 at 6:18 AM, David Connors da...@connors.com wrote:
They ran a pretty big petition on
On 5 November 2013 08:14, Scott Barnes scott.bar...@gmail.com wrote:
Petitions are pre-internet way of saying We care ..today Petitions have
been depreciated for YouTube Views Facebook Mockery blah blah.
The word is slacktivism.
+Like...
Wait sorry Google -... Google+ ..wait..sorry...
#hashTagAwesome...wait...ahh screw it
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On Tue, Nov 5, 2013 at 8:45 AM, David Connors da...@connors.com wrote:
On 5 November 2013 08:14, Scott Barnes scott.bar...@gmail.com wrote:
On 05/11/2013 7:18 AM, David Connors da...@connors.com wrote:
They ran a pretty big petition on the 7th of Sep.
I find your version of democracy very entertaining. Everyone who voted
obviously agreed with every single policy of the party they voted for.
Otherwise they would have just ticked the
Lol hnice.
From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On
Behalf Of David Burstin
Sent: Monday, November 04, 2013 7:17 PM
To: ozDotNet
Subject: Re: NBN Petition
On 05/11/2013 7:18 AM, David Connors
da...@connors.commailto:da...@connors.com wrote:
They ran
racing analogy seems appropriate today)
Still, I backed the crowdfunded NBN petition - so more than slacktivism, I
put $$$ behind it.
http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/get-malcolm-turnbull-to-listen-to-australia-about-the-nbn?c=pledges
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On 5 November 2013 10:16, David Burstin david.burs...@gmail.com wrote:
On 05/11/2013 7:18 AM, David Connors da...@connors.com wrote:
They ran a pretty big petition on the 7th of Sep.
I find your version of democracy very entertaining. Everyone who voted
obviously agreed with every single
at the next
one.
From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com]
On Behalf Of Grant Maw
Sent: Tuesday, 5 November 2013 2:20 PM
To: ozDotNet
Subject: Re: NBN Petition
(petition == the will of the people) == rubbish.
Obviously :)
On 5 November 2013 13:10, Grant
On 05/11/2013 2:10 PM, Grant Maw grant@gmail.com wrote:
I find your version of democracy very entertaining.
Well the only alternative that I can see is getting people to vote on
every single issue. Is that what you are advocating?
I imagine that if you think about it you will find that
:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:
ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *Grant Maw
*Sent:* Tuesday, 5 November 2013 2:20 PM
*To:* ozDotNet
*Subject:* Re: NBN Petition
(petition == the will of the people) == rubbish.
Obviously :)
On 5 November 2013 13:10, Grant Maw grant
: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com]
On Behalf Of Joseph Cooney
Sent: Tuesday, 5 November 2013 3:07 PM
To: ozDotNet
Subject: RE: NBN Petition
I would have thought if it was worth it to you to have that fast internet
then you'd pay for it, and if it wasn't worth
...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:
ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *Grant Maw
*Sent:* Tuesday, 5 November 2013 2:20 PM
*To:* ozDotNet
*Subject:* Re: NBN Petition
(petition == the will of the people) == rubbish.
Obviously :)
On 5 November 2013 13:10, Grant Maw grant@gmail.com wrote:
I
: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com]
On Behalf Of Stephen Price
Sent: Tuesday, 5 November 2013 3:16 PM
To: ozDotNet
Subject: RE: NBN Petition
You don't need fast to backup to the cloud. Crashplan have a good way of
doing trickle backups. (ans there are other similar
on.
Cheers
Ken
From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On
Behalf Of Joseph Cooney
Sent: Tuesday, 5 November 2013 3:07 PM
To: ozDotNet
Subject: RE: NBN Petition
I would have thought if it was worth it to you to have that fast internet then
you'd pay
, but I doubt it's as convenient as what we have today)
Cheers
Ken
From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On
Behalf Of Stephen Price
Sent: Tuesday, 5 November 2013 3:16 PM
To: ozDotNet
Subject: RE: NBN Petition
You don't need fast to backup to the cloud
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