Re: GESO: An evening with the M100/2.8
On Aug 12, 2005, at 11:01 AM, Juan Buhler wrote: http://www.flickr.com/photos/jbuhler/sets/742493/ You've picked an excellent set of photos to present! Nearly all are notable, and they work together as a group. Great stuff! Godfrey
Re: PESO: Reinventing Technicolor?
Glen wrote: I've been playing around with bold colors lately. I thought I would share an example with everyone and get their initial reactions: http://mclilith.audioshot.net/photos2005/beech_fork.html Aii! My eyes! ;-) Something between the two would probably be my ideal. S
Re: My visit with Ann
On 12/8/05, William Robb, discombobulated, unleashed: After that, we went shopping. Ann bought some cloths, I bought a chair and some clamps. This for my visit one day? Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
Re: PAW: People Portraits #29 - GDG
On 12/8/05, Godfrey DiGiorgi, discombobulated, unleashed: http://homepage.mac.com/ramarren/photo/PAW5/29.htm Comments and critique always appreciated. This photograph was made in Oxford during a gathering with my Pentax using friends ... Nice one Godders. Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
Re: to Optio or not to Optio?
On 12/8/05, Amita Guha, discombobulated, unleashed: I confirmed with Verizon that I can get a new phone on October 6th. Woohoo! Why do you have to confirm with Verizon? If I want a new phone here, I buy one and pop a SIM card in from my old phone. In fact I have three SIM cards - one supplied by my employer but used in a phone I bought, a private one in a backup phone and another private one in a GPRS card (to allow internet connection in a laptop when on the road). Just curious. Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
Re: PESO: My First PESO
I like it a lot Glen. A nice calm relaxing picture postcard feel. Well done. Dave On 8/12/05, Glen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, I just uploaded one of the images I shot with the *istDS. The picture was shot at twilight, with the camera resting on the handrail of a balcony. The image is of Huntington, West Virginia. I would have preferred the skyline of New York or LA, but this is all I had to work with. ;-) http://mclilith.audioshot.net/photos2005/pullman.html take care, Glen
Off for two weeks
Hi everybody! I'm leaving in a couple of hours, heading south (first time in seven years that I spend the holidays in Southern Italy...) I'll be based in Salina, one of the Aeolian Islands (see: http://www.initaly.com/regions/sicily/aeolian.htm), and hopefully will tour the other islands as well. I tried to squeeze the amount of equipment to a minimum, but I'm still not sure if it'll be better to leave three primes at home bringing two zooms or viceversa (decisions, decisions...) For sure there are: *istD, LX and a Fuji GS645S on loan (I'd love to bring the 67II or the 6x7... maybe next time), AF360FGZ and, of course, the Yashica T5. The possible lenses are the M 40/2.8 on the LX, the FA 28/2.8 on the D and the following: M 20/4, FA 50/1.4, M 100/4 macro. There should be probably enough room for something else, but with another set (say, FA 20-35/4 and A 70-210/4) I could cover almost everything - with lenses a bit too slow for my taste, so I would be forced to bring something faster. Sigh... I'll let you know my decisions soon (I'm pretty sure I'll have internet access, although not very often). Ciao! Gianfranco _ __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
RE: GESO: An evening with the M100/2.8
Very nice work, Juan. How do you transform to BW. I guess there's a bit of work involved, using the chanel mixer, right? Jens Bladt Arkitekt MAA http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: Juan Buhler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sendt: 12. august 2005 20:01 Til: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Emne: GESO: An evening with the M100/2.8 Yesterday I went to Union Suqare in San Francisco with the M100/2.8 on the istD. I shot with the lens wide open and the camera on program mode. I tried to keep my usual shooting distance, which was kind of difficult given how long the lens is compared to what I'm used to. Nothing amazing here, but I really liked the shallow depth of field. Now I want a 35mm/0.95... http://www.flickr.com/photos/jbuhler/sets/742493/ j -- Juan Buhler http://www.jbuhler.com photoblog at http://photoblog.jbuhler.com
Re: OT - Upping the anti
Cool. I hadn't realised that the procedure was reversible Dave On 8/12/05, Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 12/8/05, David Savage, discombobulated, unleashed: But will they now work on a Pentax camera? g yes of course. I take the EOS-K mount off and put a K mount on, and away we go. I lose open aperture metering, that's all. Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
PAW - Leafy Garden
I really need to improve my titles but I tend to fill out my PAW forms in a hurry :) Rather than look through my archive for something nice to scan, I thought I'd post something recent for once. A couple of weeks ago I loaded up the 6x7 and took it out for a bit of exercise. I'd just cobbled up a panoramic viewfinder mask(*) and wanted to try it out, but about half of my photos ended up being full- frame. http://www.bluemoon.net.nz/photo/printsdb/view.php?print_id=98t=PAW I've cropped it a little: in the original there is about 10% extra on both the top and the right. I took this on an expired roll of Reala because I was carrying a bare minimum of gear, choosing to bring the metered prism instead of the external spot meter. I haven't used the metered prism much and I didn't want to risk ruining slides. The downside is that I hate scanning negs. Comments are welcome, as long as they're about the photo and not the web page which I already know needs work. Once I've finished my client's database project, that's when I'll work on my own website :) Cheers, - Dave (*) The mask is just a couple of lines drawn on a piece of mylar transparency. I made this one after I found that my first attempt, based on some plastic from an old CD jewel case, would only work with the waist-level finder as the bottom of the prism finder protrudes into the focussing screen assembly. The piece of mylar is no good with the waist-level finder as there's nothing to hold it in place. Nevermind, I'd rather carry two masks than draw new lines on my wonderful grid screen. BTW the reason why I made the mask is because my scanner can scan the central 25mm-wide section of a 6x9 slide at 4800ppi optical, instead of 3200ppi for the full frame. The viewfinder mask allows me to compose with this in mind. I've scanned a couple of my old panoramas like this and the results were fantastic when printed on roll paper.
Re: PAW: People Portraits #29 - GDG
Interesting scenario, but not a particularly pleasing composition. To me, the half-chopped people in the background at left are a distraction, as is the crop on the head of the principal figure. Not among your best in my opinion. Paul On Aug 13, 2005, at 12:36 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: http://homepage.mac.com/ramarren/photo/PAW5/29.htm Comments and critique always appreciated. This photograph was made in Oxford during a gathering with my Pentax using friends ... enjoy Godfrey
Re: Options for editing viewing PEF files?
WR Last I heard, Phase One wouldn't run on AMD computers. WR Something to be aware of if you are running a non Intel chipset. Capture1 from PhaseOne always worked fine on AMDs. It was another one, RSE from Pixmantec, that when released wouldn't work on AMDs (IMO they just botched up alpha testing...) Good light! fra
Re: PAW - Leafy Garden
Nice composition. The backlight makes it interesting. Paul On Aug 13, 2005, at 6:26 AM, David Mann wrote: I really need to improve my titles but I tend to fill out my PAW forms in a hurry :) Rather than look through my archive for something nice to scan, I thought I'd post something recent for once. A couple of weeks ago I loaded up the 6x7 and took it out for a bit of exercise. I'd just cobbled up a panoramic viewfinder mask(*) and wanted to try it out, but about half of my photos ended up being full-frame. http://www.bluemoon.net.nz/photo/printsdb/view.php?print_id=98t=PAW I've cropped it a little: in the original there is about 10% extra on both the top and the right. I took this on an expired roll of Reala because I was carrying a bare minimum of gear, choosing to bring the metered prism instead of the external spot meter. I haven't used the metered prism much and I didn't want to risk ruining slides. The downside is that I hate scanning negs. Comments are welcome, as long as they're about the photo and not the web page which I already know needs work. Once I've finished my client's database project, that's when I'll work on my own website :) Cheers, - Dave (*) The mask is just a couple of lines drawn on a piece of mylar transparency. I made this one after I found that my first attempt, based on some plastic from an old CD jewel case, would only work with the waist-level finder as the bottom of the prism finder protrudes into the focussing screen assembly. The piece of mylar is no good with the waist-level finder as there's nothing to hold it in place. Nevermind, I'd rather carry two masks than draw new lines on my wonderful grid screen. BTW the reason why I made the mask is because my scanner can scan the central 25mm-wide section of a 6x9 slide at 4800ppi optical, instead of 3200ppi for the full frame. The viewfinder mask allows me to compose with this in mind. I've scanned a couple of my old panoramas like this and the results were fantastic when printed on roll paper.
Leaving for London
Hi! Tomorrow morning we'll be heading to London... I won't be unsubscribing from the list (thanks Google almighty) but I won't have any access to computer at least until Friday next week. See you. London PDMLers - we'll meet at last ;-). Boris
Re: PESO: Great Expectations
On 8/10/05, E.R.N. Reed [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip I make no claims about my actual knowledge, but I have a Bachelor of Science -- and will stipulate without comment that the abbreviation for same, here in the USA, is B.S. In these parts of the world, a Bachelor of Science is abbreviated B.Sc., and pronounced B-S-C. Sounds so much nicer, eh? vbg cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson
Re: Leaving for London
On 8/13/05, Boris Liberman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi! Tomorrow morning we'll be heading to London... I won't be unsubscribing from the list (thanks Google almighty) but I won't have any access to computer at least until Friday next week. See you. London PDMLers - we'll meet at last ;-). Boris Ain't Google great? I didn't unsub either, both when I went to GFM and on my little sojourn to NYC back in July. Came back to thousands of e-mails, all nicely threaded. g Have a great trip. Give Cotty a big kiss for me. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson
Re: PAW - Leafy Garden
On 8/13/05, Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nice composition. The backlight makes it interesting. Paul Agreed. The serpentine line of woodchips (or whatever those are) and the strong element of that big tree on the right, along with the backlighting make this a lovely photo. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson
Re: PAW: People Portraits #29 - GDG
On 8/13/05, Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://homepage.mac.com/ramarren/photo/PAW5/29.htm Comments and critique always appreciated. This photograph was made in Oxford during a gathering with my Pentax using friends ... I like it. I like the curve of the line of kids on the bottom and the curve of the sidewalk curb (or do they spell it kerb in England?). A little bit of motion blur on the fellow's hands really adds to what's going on; makes it a very dynamic photo. I like that he's a bit cut off, as that seems to focus my attention on the kids sitting down, and makes me notice how rapt they seem, watching the man. BTW, is he some sort of an instructor (it almost seems like this might be a school field trip or something), or are they watching a street performer of some sort? Wonderful photo. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson
Re: Leaving for London
On 13/8/05, frank theriault, discombobulated, unleashed: Have a great trip. Give Cotty a big kiss for me. okay but no tongues Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
Re: Mr Rolfo's EOS-K adapter - Report
On Friday, August 12, 2005, at 12:48 PM, Cotty wrote: I recently purchased an adapter that allows Pentax K mount lenses to be used on Canon EOS cameras from a German eBay seller called Mr. Rolfo. Here is a short, er long report. Some of you may be aware that I designed and manufacture an adapter to fit Contax manual focus lenses on EOS cameras. I get requests all the time to make one for K mount to EOS, but have not done so due to the necessity of modifying the K lens by removing the aperture stop-down lever, and I don't think most of my customers would be capable of doing that without damaging the lens, and I don't really want to offer that service by mail order. Has anyone here experimented with shortening that lever? I thought that perhaps it might be possible to shorten it enough to clear on the EOS and still work on K bodies, but haven't taken the time to do all of the measurements. You can see what my adapter looks like here: http://www.bobshell.com/adapter.html Bob
Re: Off for two weeks
On 8/13/05, Gianfranco Irlanda [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi everybody! I'm leaving in a couple of hours, heading south (first time in seven years that I spend the holidays in Southern Italy...) I'll be based in Salina, one of the Aeolian Islands (see: http://www.initaly.com/regions/sicily/aeolian.htm), and hopefully will tour the other islands as well. I tried to squeeze the amount of equipment to a minimum, but I'm still not sure if it'll be better to leave three primes at home bringing two zooms or viceversa (decisions, decisions...) For sure there are: *istD, LX and a Fuji GS645S on loan (I'd love to bring the 67II or the 6x7... maybe next time), AF360FGZ and, of course, the Yashica T5. The possible lenses are the M 40/2.8 on the LX, the FA 28/2.8 on the D and the following: M 20/4, FA 50/1.4, M 100/4 macro. There should be probably enough room for something else, but with another set (say, FA 20-35/4 and A 70-210/4) I could cover almost everything - with lenses a bit too slow for my taste, so I would be forced to bring something faster. Sigh... I'll let you know my decisions soon (I'm pretty sure I'll have internet access, although not very often). Ciao! I know it's a totally different scenario, but when I recently visited NYC, I had to pack ~real~ light, since I was bringing my bike in a proper hard-shell bike-box (the box weighs much more than the bike! g), and I didn't want to go over weight restrictions. Other than the bike, everything had to be carry-on, so I fitted all my clothing into my messenger bag. I would have loved to bring a few bodies and lenses, but I only had room for my Leica CL/40mm Summicron C. I actually had fun being forced into the discipline of shooting many different types of shots (from bike races to architectural shots to skyline panoramas) with one body/lens. That being said, there were many situations that I did wish that I had something wider/longer/faster... vbg Enough of my ramblings. You and Veronica have a great trip, Gianfranco. Whatever you bring with you, you'll take stunning photos! vbg cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson
Re: Leaving for London
On 8/13/05, Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: okay but no tongues Spoilsport! :-( -frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson
Re: Photo Vest
I've tested a large number of photographers vests over about 30 years. My favorite for functionality, particularly in hot weather, is from Hakuba. You can download a pdf of the Hakuba catalog here: http://www.hakubausa.com/Documents/ca.pdf The vests are on page two. I like that most of it is cotton mesh, so it doesn't make you hotter when you wear it. The most elegant (and perhaps least functional) is the Billingham photographers vest. It is absolutely gorgeous, and I wear mine to photo trade shows sometimes since it looks dressy. Halfway between the two, but definitely not for hot weather, is the leather photographers vest from Adorama. Bob Shell On Friday, August 12, 2005, at 11:02 PM, Amita Guha wrote: Do any of you guys use a photogs vest? I use one from a clothing company called Royal Robbins. I wouldn't put any but the smallest of lenses in it, but it has about a zillion pockets and holds everything else I need when I'm in the field. http://tinyurl.com/cv44y Amita
Re: Options for editing viewing PEF files?
Quoting Glen [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On the Windows platform, what are the software options for converting or editing Pentax PEF files? Is there anything besides the Pentax software bundled with the *istDS camera, and the Camera RAW plugin for Photoshop? Have the details of the PEF format been published? Does anyone know where to get the details of the format? I've been looking into this lately, mainly because I use Windows 98 and most of the commonly used RAW converters don't run on that platform (eg. Pentax Photo Lab 2, Photoshop CS, Elements 3, Raw Shooter Essentials). The ones I've found are as follows (some are better than others): Sharp Raw Breeze Browser Bibble UFRAW (free - plug-in for The Gimp and available for both Windows and Linux) Raw Drop (free - graphical front end for the command line converter DCRAW) Irfanview can be used to view PEF files The following URL is worth looking at (don't be mislead by the Linux in its title - it's relevent for Windows, Mac and Linux and lists a whole range of converters). http://www.cybercom.net/~dcoffin/dcraw/ Cheers Brian Brian Walters Western Sydney, Australia
Re: My visit with Ann
On 8/12/05, William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ann is a most wonderful guest. She got in somewhat late on Wednesday, arriving just at around 6:15. We pretty much fed her and put her to bed. Thursday we went downtown and found her a bank and had a hot dog. After that, we went shopping. Ann bought some cloths, I bought a chair and some clamps. Supper at a local pasta place happened, and we went out to see the sunset (not much else to do here). A good time was had by all, and a really tiny little gallery is here: http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrobb/pictures/annvisit/index.html#5 William Robb Awesome shots, Bill! I was going to say (tongue-in-cheek) that #2 was my favourite, but the prairie shots with Ann in them, along with those sunsets are amazing, too. All great stuff, IMHO. Say hi to Ann. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson
Re: Leaving for London
Prude Dave On 8/13/05, Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 13/8/05, frank theriault, discombobulated, unleashed: Have a great trip. Give Cotty a big kiss for me. okay but no tongues Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
Re: Another day at the office
On 8/9/05, Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: RAF Brize Norton this morning. Snapped through a bus window by friend and colleague Barry Clack, a freelance photographer from Oxford, on his Nikon D2X, so this is OT I suppose ;-) I'm a big bloke, but *that's* a big plane! Boeing C-17. Waiting for air crew to pop out for a chat. Looks like I'm alone but the rest of the press rabble is behind the bus at right... http://www.cottysnaps.com/snaps/spare5.html He got you from your best side, anyways... LOL cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson
Re: My visit with Ann
- Original Message - From: Cotty Subject: Re: My visit with Ann On 12/8/05, William Robb, discombobulated, unleashed: After that, we went shopping. Ann bought some cloths, I bought a chair and some clamps. This for my visit one day? I think I'll need bigger clamps than the ones I bought for Ann's visit. WW
Re: My visit with Ann
- Original Message - From: Bob Sullivan Subject: Re: My visit with Ann My god, you have buildings more than 2 stories tall in your town? I think they put up a 4 story office tower a while backG I really like that last sunset with the 4 corn silo's. Thanks Bob. Ann and I both shot pretty much the same picture, she used her Canon Pro 1 (?), I used my little Optio 750. Her shots were pretty much all flare all over, mine were much better controlled. There is something to this SMC stuff. William Robb
Re: Options for editing viewing PEF files?
- Original Message - From: Frantisek Subject: Re: Options for editing viewing PEF files? WR Last I heard, Phase One wouldn't run on AMD computers. WR Something to be aware of if you are running a non Intel chipset. Capture1 from PhaseOne always worked fine on AMDs. It was another one, RSE from Pixmantec, that when released wouldn't work on AMDs (IMO they just botched up alpha testing...) I'l have to check on that now. One of the guys over at the studio I share was big on some piece of softwate, I had thought it was Capture1, but when I checked into it, the website documentation specified that it woldn't work on AMDs. William Robb
Re: PESO: Reinventing Technicolor?
At 03:44 AM 8/13/2005, you wrote: Glen wrote: I've been playing around with bold colors lately. I thought I would share an example with everyone and get their initial reactions: http://mclilith.audioshot.net/photos2005/beech_fork.html Aii! My eyes! ;-) Something between the two would probably be my ideal. Hi Steve, Just for everyone's amusement, I've updated the page again. I've included a third image which should give everyone a better idea of just how saturated an image can become. After viewing the third image, the relatively vivid colors of the second lake image should look quite normal in comparison. ;-) Warning: You might want to wear sunglasses to view the third image. Squinting might also help somewhat. Naturally, staring for prolonged periods at the third image is not recommended. :) take care, Glen
RE: Photo Vest
I really like the look and design of the Hakuba vest. In searching however I can't find anyone who actually stocks the thing. Anyone have any idea who sells these in the US or Canada? Don -Original Message- From: Bob Shell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2005 7:25 AM To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: Photo Vest I've tested a large number of photographers vests over about 30 years. My favorite for functionality, particularly in hot weather, is from Hakuba. You can download a pdf of the Hakuba catalog here: http://www.hakubausa.com/Documents/ca.pdf The vests are on page two. I like that most of it is cotton mesh, so it doesn't make you hotter when you wear it. The most elegant (and perhaps least functional) is the Billingham photographers vest. It is absolutely gorgeous, and I wear mine to photo trade shows sometimes since it looks dressy. Halfway between the two, but definitely not for hot weather, is the leather photographers vest from Adorama. Bob Shell On Friday, August 12, 2005, at 11:02 PM, Amita Guha wrote: Do any of you guys use a photogs vest? I use one from a clothing company called Royal Robbins. I wouldn't put any but the smallest of lenses in it, but it has about a zillion pockets and holds everything else I need when I'm in the field. http://tinyurl.com/cv44y Amita
Toodles for now
Off to do some shootin' (and other fun things). 15 boxes of slides to sort if the weather is bad. Rick __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: My visit with Ann
Wow, the Optio 750? I thought it was the *istD you were using. Regards, Bob S. On 8/13/05, William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Original Message - From: Bob Sullivan Subject: Re: My visit with Ann My god, you have buildings more than 2 stories tall in your town? I think they put up a 4 story office tower a while backG I really like that last sunset with the 4 corn silo's. Thanks Bob. Ann and I both shot pretty much the same picture, she used her Canon Pro 1 (?), I used my little Optio 750. Her shots were pretty much all flare all over, mine were much better controlled. There is something to this SMC stuff. William Robb
Re: Photo Vest
On Saturday, August 13, 2005, at 09:20 AM, Don Sanderson wrote: I really like the look and design of the Hakuba vest. In searching however I can't find anyone who actually stocks the thing. Anyone have any idea who sells these in the US or Canada? Go to: http://hakubausa.com/csite/c_main.asp and use the Contact link to ask them where you can buy one. They have a lot of dealers in the USA. I don't know about Canada. I would imagine that the usual suspects in NYC can sell you one by mailorder as well. Bob
Re: Lightseeker
Thanks, Bob. I'll hopefull be able to take a look at one this weekend and compare it to a few others. On 8/12/05, Bob Blakely [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a Pentax 6-24X50mm LightSeeker-30 mounted on my Springfield M21 (M14 variant). I put the Springfield Armory scope I had on it on my BAR. This LightSeeker is clear, bright, sharp stable. The Springfield Armory scope would occasionally jump a click with recoil. If the SG 2.5x is of the same build quality, then I would recommend it. P.S. I like the little central circle in the reticule. Regards, Bob... - The art of taxation consists in so plucking the goose as to obtain the largest possible amount of feathers with the smallest possible amount of hissing. - Jean-Baptiste Colbert, minister of finance to French King Louis XIV Scott Loveless wrote: Howdy, gang! I've been thinking about mounting a scope on my slug gun for the upcoming annual deer massacre. Would anyone have an opinion about the Pentax Lightseeker scopes? I'm specifically considering the SG 2.5x. Thanks in advance! -- Scott Loveless http://www.twosixteen.com -- You have to hold the button down -Arnold Newman
Re: PESO playground
Thanks, Godders. Much appreciated. On 8/12/05, Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Aug 11, 2005, at 7:47 PM, Scott Loveless wrote: Crap. Sorry. It's late and I haven't had any beer. http://twosixteen.com/gallery/index.php?id=151 Ah, there it is. Neat photo ... Lots of interesting space and geometry. I like. Godfrey -- Scott Loveless http://www.twosixteen.com -- You have to hold the button down -Arnold Newman
Re: PESO playground
Did it again. Need more booze. http://www.twosixteen.com/gallery/index.php?id=164 On 8/13/05, Scott Loveless [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 8/11/05, Glen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 10:47 PM 8/11/2005, you wrote: Crap. Sorry. It's late and I haven't had any beer. http://twosixteen.com/gallery/index.php?id=151 Thanks for the head's up, Glen. It's refreshing to hear someone blame mistakes on a *lack* of beer. ;-) Too much blood in the alcohol system. There's a certain surreal, frozen quality to this image, which I definitely like. Are there large magnetite deposits in those mountains? That swing and its chains seem permanently pulled toward those mountains for some reason. ;-) Thanks, Glen. Not sure about the magnetite. But considering the amount of iron and sulphates in our well water, I wouldn't be surprised. You might also consider cropping this image into a perfect square. I would suggest cropping out the single chain on the far left, and the pole on the upper right. It should make the suspension of time appear even more surreal, not seeing any of the surrounding support structure for the child's swing. Here's a second photo I took about a week later. Same time of day, same location. Taken with the MX, M28/3.5, and E100 (G, I think). I like the color saturation in the digital image better, but the framing on this one may be more appropriate. I think my composition sucks, but if you've ever had to push a little girl on a swing, crouch down, frame the photo, focus, set the exposure and take the picture, you'll understand. vbg take care, Glen Thanks again for looking, Glen. -- Scott Loveless http://www.twosixteen.com -- You have to hold the button down -Arnold Newman -- Scott Loveless http://www.twosixteen.com -- You have to hold the button down -Arnold Newman
Re: PESO playground
Thanks! I'm glad you like it. On 8/12/05, Gautam Sarup [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Scott, I like this picture. I wanted a little space between the bottom of the swing and the top of the mountain, I still like this picture. Regards, Gautam -Original Message- From: Scott Loveless [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2005 7:08 PM To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: PESO playground This was taken at a public park near my home. I don't really care for the way the swing lines up with the mountain in the background, but the sky was just about perfect. I wanted a little space between the bottom of the swing and the top of the mountain, but the Pentax 750z has a bit of shutter lag for which I just couldn't comensate. I've been back with the MX and E100, but the weather hasn't been quite as cooperative. http://twosixteen.com/gallery/index.php?list=20 Thanks for looking. Any comments and critiques are much appreciated. -- Scott Loveless http://www.twosixteen.com -- You have to hold the button down -Arnold Newman -- Scott Loveless http://www.twosixteen.com -- You have to hold the button down -Arnold Newman
Re: PESO playground
Thanks, Ken. Apparently, you're not alone in your opinion. See my previous reply to glen. New link to a vertical composition. Actually, I like the extra stuff in the photo. To me, they add a sense of location. The vertical I just posted removes the poles and other swings, but keeps the merry-go-round. Lemme know what you think. On 8/12/05, Kenneth Waller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As captured, this doesn't work for me, cluttered distracting. I like the theme though. However with a slightly different perspective it looks like you could place the seat of the swing away from its merging with the mountain line lose the distracting ground play toys the swing chain on the LH side the swing pipe on the RH side. Might work better in a vertical composition. Just my $.02 worth.. Kenneth Waller -Original Message- From: Scott Loveless [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: PESO playground Crap. Sorry. It's late and I haven't had any beer. http://twosixteen.com/gallery/index.php?id=151 Thanks for the head's up, Glen. On 8/11/05, Glen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 10:07 PM 8/11/2005, you wrote: This was taken at a public park near my home. Hi Scott, I didn't find the playground picture with the mountain. I only saw some very urban looking street scenes. Are you sure you gave us the right URL? take care, Glen -- Scott Loveless http://www.twosixteen.com -- You have to hold the button down -Arnold Newman PeoplePC Online A better way to Internet http://www.peoplepc.com -- Scott Loveless http://www.twosixteen.com -- You have to hold the button down -Arnold Newman
Re: PESO playground
Thanks, Rick. I'm going to blame the plane of focus on the 750. Nothing like whining about my tools, huh? g On 8/12/05, Rick Womer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think your self-critique is spot-on. I like the photo that follows it even more, though the plane focus may be a bit behind where you want it. Rick --- Scott Loveless [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Crap. Sorry. It's late and I haven't had any beer. http://twosixteen.com/gallery/index.php?id=151 Thanks for the head's up, Glen. On 8/11/05, Glen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 10:07 PM 8/11/2005, you wrote: This was taken at a public park near my home. Hi Scott, I didn't find the playground picture with the mountain. I only saw some very urban looking street scenes. Are you sure you gave us the right URL? take care, Glen -- Scott Loveless http://www.twosixteen.com -- You have to hold the button down -Arnold Newman __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- Scott Loveless http://www.twosixteen.com -- You have to hold the button down -Arnold Newman
Re: PESO playground
Thanks, Boris. Removing the distractions seems to be the consensus. See my reply to Glen for the link to the new photo. On 8/12/05, Boris Liberman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi! Crap. Sorry. It's late and I haven't had any beer. http://twosixteen.com/gallery/index.php?id=151 Scott, I think that if you edited out the railings (if this is a correct word) on the right top side it would benefit the picture. You see, to me it has a sense of the whole world being opened for the child who's having fun on the playground. That piece of metal seems to be a limit to this... Just a little thing to consider, nothing more... Boris -- Scott Loveless http://www.twosixteen.com -- You have to hold the button down -Arnold Newman
Re: PESO playground
On 8/11/05, Glen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 10:47 PM 8/11/2005, you wrote: Crap. Sorry. It's late and I haven't had any beer. http://twosixteen.com/gallery/index.php?id=151 Thanks for the head's up, Glen. It's refreshing to hear someone blame mistakes on a *lack* of beer. ;-) Too much blood in the alcohol system. There's a certain surreal, frozen quality to this image, which I definitely like. Are there large magnetite deposits in those mountains? That swing and its chains seem permanently pulled toward those mountains for some reason. ;-) Thanks, Glen. Not sure about the magnetite. But considering the amount of iron and sulphates in our well water, I wouldn't be surprised. You might also consider cropping this image into a perfect square. I would suggest cropping out the single chain on the far left, and the pole on the upper right. It should make the suspension of time appear even more surreal, not seeing any of the surrounding support structure for the child's swing. Here's a second photo I took about a week later. Same time of day, same location. Taken with the MX, M28/3.5, and E100 (G, I think). I like the color saturation in the digital image better, but the framing on this one may be more appropriate. I think my composition sucks, but if you've ever had to push a little girl on a swing, crouch down, frame the photo, focus, set the exposure and take the picture, you'll understand. vbg take care, Glen Thanks again for looking, Glen. -- Scott Loveless http://www.twosixteen.com -- You have to hold the button down -Arnold Newman
Re: My visit with Ann
Wonderful photos, Bill. I really like roadwalk. Care to share your opinion of the 750? I'd certainly be interested. On 8/12/05, William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ann is a most wonderful guest. She got in somewhat late on Wednesday, arriving just at around 6:15. We pretty much fed her and put her to bed. Thursday we went downtown and found her a bank and had a hot dog. After that, we went shopping. Ann bought some cloths, I bought a chair and some clamps. Supper at a local pasta place happened, and we went out to see the sunset (not much else to do here). A good time was had by all, and a really tiny little gallery is here: http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrobb/pictures/annvisit/index.html#5 William Robb -- Scott Loveless http://www.twosixteen.com -- You have to hold the button down -Arnold Newman
Re: PESO: Reinventing Technicolor?
I like the second photo, Glen. It made me think of a Gilligan's Island era beach movie. I can see the bikinis now. :D On 8/13/05, Glen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've been playing around with bold colors lately. I thought I would share an example with everyone and get their initial reactions: http://mclilith.audioshot.net/photos2005/beech_fork.html The top image is a typical shot of a local lake. The bottom image was taken in a parallel universe. ;-) Neither of these images are intended to be finished works. This is only a test of an experimental technique I'm working on. You can easily see that I shot these from the open window of my vehicle, and that the outer mirror is visible in the right-side of these shots. (Like I said, these are only test shots.) ;-) take care, Glen -- Scott Loveless http://www.twosixteen.com -- You have to hold the button down -Arnold Newman
Digital Impact on New Photographers
There is an article in this weekend's Guardian newspaper (UK) that I found quite interesting. Unfortunately it's not available online, so I'll read it to you if you like :-) http://www.cottysnaps.com/snaps/movers.html Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
Re: Optio S4 replacement
Raimo, Thanks for the information. I've got the new Optio SV and daughter's old S4 in hand. The SV does indeed produce smaller jpegs! At best quality and maximum size, I get... SV - 2559 KB jpg - 2560 by 1920 pixels - 4.17 compressed bits per pixel S4 - 2797 KB jpg - 2304 by 1728 pixels - .727 compressed bits per pixel I also reduced the size difference by going to the 'Superior' quality on the simple menu. It looks like you can set biggest pix and best quality on the regular menu, but still have one more quality level on the 'simple' menu. It took the jpg from 2471 to 2559 KB. After looking at the jpg at 2X magnification, I see little difference. The SV rendering is a bit more pleasing with fewer blown out highlights, but the test is poorly controlled - just both cameras on automatic. I would be difficult to say that the S4 is better. The extra 25% in image size does make a preceptible difference in detail. Thanks for the advice. Regards, Bob S. On 8/10/05, Raimo K [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have Optio SV now - I had Optio 4i before - and I have a gnawing suspicion that the earlier camera was better. There´s no way I can prove it but that´s what I feel. Optio SV makes smaller files. The SV is not bad, either - and the size gives better grip. All the best! Raimo K Personal photography homepage at: http://www.uusikaupunki.fi/~raikorho - Original Message - From: keithw [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2005 6:21 PM Subject: Re: Optio S4 replacement Bob Sullivan wrote: Thanks to Keith, Christian, Bruce, and Amita for the comments. I thought and looked hard for a new condition S4. Meanwhile, I stumbled on a good price for an Optio SV and have bought it. Willoughby's in NYC is offering it at $261 with a $50 rebate from Pentax. I don't think that I can beat the price for a 5 megapixel Pentax. Now we'll see if the daughter wants to go back to school with old or new camera. Regards, Bob S. Definitely bigger than the diminutive S4, but will serve well, and I'm sure, will be really appreciated. keith On 8/7/05, Amita Guha [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So do we have any sage advice out there? Some of the newer Optios look pretty cool. I've been lusting after the Optio WP for a couple of months now. It might not suit your needs because it's a little bigger than the S4, and it's missing a viewfinder. I think it's a fun little camera, the samples I've seen from it are great, and it's waterproof, if that helps your decision any. I think Buydig.com has it for about $260 these days. Hope that helps, Amita
Re: Options for editing viewing PEF files?
It runs on mine. John On Fri, 12 Aug 2005 19:35:15 +0100, William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Original Message - From: Godfrey DiGiorgi Subject: Re: Options for editing viewing PEF files? Pentax Lab Photoshop/Camera Raw RawShooter Essentials Phase One - Capture 1 Vuescan Bibble Labs Last I heard, Phase One wouldn't run on AMD computers. Something to be aware of if you are running a non Intel chipset. William Robb -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/ -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.10.8/71 - Release Date: 12/08/2005
Re: Digital Impact on New Photographers
Say Uncle Cotty, will you read us a bedtime story? On 8/13/05, Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There is an article in this weekend's Guardian newspaper (UK) that I found quite interesting. Unfortunately it's not available online, so I'll read it to you if you like :-) http://www.cottysnaps.com/snaps/movers.html Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
Re: PAW: People Portraits #29 - GDG
Thanks for all the comments On Aug 13, 2005, at 5:15 AM, frank theriault wrote: http://homepage.mac.com/ramarren/photo/PAW5/29.htm ... BTW, is he some sort of an instructor (it almost seems like this might be a school field trip or something), or are they watching a street performer of some sort? He was a mime doing a street performance. There was a large crowd gathered, it was entertaining to find ways to make photographs that weren't just bustling people bumping into each other. :-) Godfrey
RE: Leaving for London
Hi! Tomorrow morning we'll be heading to London... I won't be unsubscribing from the list (thanks Google almighty) but I won't have any access to computer at least until Friday next week. See you. London PDMLers - we'll meet at last ;-). it's a big city, and you're following my directions, so don't start counting your chickens... Bob
Re: to Optio or not to Optio?
On Aug 13, 2005, at 1:08 AM, Cotty wrote: I confirmed with Verizon that I can get a new phone on October 6th. Woohoo! Why do you have to confirm with Verizon? If I want a new phone here, I buy one and pop a SIM card in from my old phone. In fact I have three SIM cards - one supplied by my employer but used in a phone I bought, a private one in a backup phone and another private one in a GPRS card (to allow internet connection in a laptop when on the road). Phones can be sold independent of a service provider, unlocked, or locked to a particular service provider's SIM cards. Those sold locked to a service provider are usually at about half the normal retail price, and are usually sold with a service contract. Phones can also be either CDMA or GSM protocol, CDMA is still fairly widespread in US service providers, and they don't take SIM cards. (I don't believe Verizon offers GSM as yet. I use Cingular/ATT GSM service on a simple, pay as you go plan.) When I bought the Treo 650, I specifically wanted an unlocked, quad- band GSM phone with no service contract ... I wanted maximum flexibility to use anyone's SIM card, anywhere in the world, and pick whatever plan/use model made the most sense. It cost a fairly hefty premium to get that kind of equipment but I feel was worth it. Godfrey
Re: Digital Impact on New Photographers
On 13/8/05, Bob Sullivan, discombobulated, unleashed: Say Uncle Cotty, will you read us a bedtime story? You wouldn't like my bedtime stories - Little Red Riding Hood ends up in a stewing pot after 6 months in the white slave trade. Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
Re: to Optio or not to Optio?
On 13/8/05, Godfrey DiGiorgi, discombobulated, unleashed: Phones can be sold independent of a service provider, unlocked, or locked to a particular service provider's SIM cards. Those sold locked to a service provider are usually at about half the normal retail price, and are usually sold with a service contract. Phones can also be either CDMA or GSM protocol, CDMA is still fairly widespread in US service providers, and they don't take SIM cards. (I don't believe Verizon offers GSM as yet. I use Cingular/ATT GSM service on a simple, pay as you go plan.) When I bought the Treo 650, I specifically wanted an unlocked, quad- band GSM phone with no service contract ... I wanted maximum flexibility to use anyone's SIM card, anywhere in the world, and pick whatever plan/use model made the most sense. It cost a fairly hefty premium to get that kind of equipment but I feel was worth it. Thanks G Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
Re: PAW - Leafy Garden
On Aug 13, 2005, at 3:26 AM, David Mann wrote: http://www.bluemoon.net.nz/photo/printsdb/view.php?print_id=98t=PAW I like the lines of this composition a lot. Somehow, the color in the tree bark disturbs me, I'd much rather it were rendered in BW. Godfrey
Re: Off for two weeks
I'm leaving in a couple of hours, heading south (first time in seven years that I spend the holidays in Southern Italy...) I'll be based in Salina, one of the Aeolian Islands (see: http://www.initaly.com/regions/sicily/aeolian.htm), and hopefully will tour the other islands as well. One of these days I'm going to get to that part of the world. I've been wanting to go to Sicily for years. Have a great trip! I tried to squeeze the amount of equipment to a minimum, but I'm still not sure if it'll be better to leave three primes at home bringing two zooms or viceversa (decisions, decisions...) ... I know it's a totally different scenario, ... I would have loved to bring a few bodies and lenses, but I only had room for my Leica CL/40mm Summicron C. I actually had fun being forced into the discipline of shooting many different types of shots (from bike races to architectural shots to skyline panoramas) with one body/lens. That being said, there were many situations that I did wish that I had something wider/longer/faster... Yes, deciding on the equipment to carry is always difficult. It's so easy to carry too much, or too little. In 2004, I had two cameras, five lenses, tripod and supporting gear which turned into a nightmare. This year, I took only the DS body and six lenses ... DA14, A24, FA28-105, A50/1.4, F100-300, FA135 ... which worked out very well overall; my daily shooting bag rarely had more than three lenses in it at a time. Since I've returned home, I'm practicing carrying just one-two lenses alone for days at a time. The FA20-35 and F35-70 seem to be the ones most in my bag of late, with the Zenitar 16, DA14, and F50/1.7 occasionally joining one or the other of them. The discipline of working with a single fast, prime focal length lens is always good for developing our eyes, however. It's great to get back to those basics and work the field. :-) Godfrey
Re: PESO: Reinventing Technicolor?
Working with alternative renderings is a kick, but it can get gimmicky. A year or so ago, I found a Lomo action for Photoshop and applied it to a bunch of photos that I was making with the Sony U60 ... http://homepage.mac.com/godders/PhotoAlbum44.html It's fun. I also posted a group of BW renderings: http://homepage.mac.com/godders/PhotoAlbum45.html and some normal from the same camera: http://homepage.mac.com/godders/PhotoAlbum46.html fun fun fun Godfrey
RE: to Optio or not to Optio?
Why do you have to confirm with Verizon? What Godrey said. OTOH, Verizon has the best service, at least where I live, so I'm sticking with them, even though I have to sign a 2-year contract to get the Treo at a discount, and I'm not eligible for an equipment upgrade until Oct. 6. I don't plan on leaving Verizon unless they really start to stink for some reason. Amita
The Photographer's Rights
This may have been mentioned here before. The Photographer's Right - A Downloadable Flyer http://www.krages.com/phoright.htm There is also a British version here: http://www.sirimo.co.uk/ukpr.php Canadians as usual are stuck somewhere in the middle. The two versions are interesting but not 100% relevant. Does anyone know the Canadian rules? Or is there a Canadian legal mind why could spell it out? ...frank...? Powell
Re: Leaving for London
On Aug 13, 2005, at 9:00 AM, Bob W wrote: it's a big city, and you're following my directions, so don't start counting your chickens... Just tell everyone to meet at the Starbucks at the corner of Leicester Square about an hour before sunset... Great spot for people pictures. Godfrey
Re: The Photographer's Rights
On 13/8/05, Powell Hargrave, discombobulated, unleashed: Does anyone know the Canadian rules? If you stalk a moose with illicit photographic intentions, expect to be arrested ;-) Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
Re: Leaving for London
On 8/13/05, Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just tell everyone to meet at the Starbucks at the corner of Criminy! The over-priced-burnt-coffee plague has spread to England. On behalf of Americans who appreciate decent coffee, I'm really sorry. -- Scott Loveless http://www.twosixteen.com -- You have to hold the button down -Arnold Newman
Re: Leaving for London
On 13/8/05, Scott Loveless, discombobulated, unleashed: Criminy! The over-priced-burnt-coffee plague has spread to England. On behalf of Americans who appreciate decent coffee, I'm really sorry. I don't think anyone told the marketing department that most of us drink tea. Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
RE: Leaving for London
-Original Message- From: Cotty [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 13 August 2005 18:10 To: pentax list Subject: Re: Leaving for London On 13/8/05, Scott Loveless, discombobulated, unleashed: Criminy! The over-priced-burnt-coffee plague has spread to England. On behalf of Americans who appreciate decent coffee, I'm really sorry. I don't think anyone told the marketing department that most of us drink tea. I hardly ever drink tea. I'm a coffee man, through and through, but I really don't like Starbucks coffee, and I don't like all these lattes and other fancy-pants coffees that are, for all intents and purposes, just buckets of hot animal fat with some vile sugary flavouring. How they get the nerve to describe it as coffee is beyond me. I blame Frasier and Friends. Bob
Re: GESO: An evening with the M100/2.8
Thanks Jens. I transform to bw with the actions and techniques of Petteri Sulonen, as described in his page: http://194.100.88.243/petteri/pont/How_to/n_Digital_BW/a_Digital_Black_and_White.html I also do a bit of dodging and burning, although this M100/2.8 gallery was put together quickly and I didn't do any of it on those images. Cheers, j On 8/13/05, Jens Bladt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Very nice work, Juan. How do you transform to BW. I guess there's a bit of work involved, using the chanel mixer, right? Jens Bladt Arkitekt MAA http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: Juan Buhler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sendt: 12. august 2005 20:01 Til: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Emne: GESO: An evening with the M100/2.8 Yesterday I went to Union Suqare in San Francisco with the M100/2.8 on the istD. I shot with the lens wide open and the camera on program mode. I tried to keep my usual shooting distance, which was kind of difficult given how long the lens is compared to what I'm used to. Nothing amazing here, but I really liked the shallow depth of field. Now I want a 35mm/0.95... http://www.flickr.com/photos/jbuhler/sets/742493/ j -- Juan Buhler http://www.jbuhler.com photoblog at http://photoblog.jbuhler.com -- Juan Buhler http://www.jbuhler.com photoblog at http://photoblog.jbuhler.com
Re: Leaving for London
Scott Loveless wrote: On 8/13/05, Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just tell everyone to meet at the Starbucks at the corner of Criminy! The over-priced-burnt-coffee plague has spread to England. On behalf of Americans who appreciate decent coffee, I'm really sorry. Me too. I went to a Starbucks just ONCE, near LAX, about 5 years ago, and vowed to never return! keith
PAW: People Portraits #30 - GDG
Only a couple more to go and I'll be back to posting just one a week: http://homepage.mac.com/ramarren/photo/PAW5/30.htm Comments critique always appreciated. enjoy Godfrey
Re: Leaving for London
On Aug 13, 2005, at 10:31 AM, keithw wrote: Just tell everyone to meet at the Starbucks at the corner of Criminy! The over-priced-burnt-coffee plague has spread to England. On behalf of Americans who appreciate decent coffee, I'm really sorry. Me too. I went to a Starbucks just ONCE, near LAX, about 5 years ago, and vowed to never return! LOL ... Where have you guys been? You can hardly get out of line of sight of a Starbux in London. I normally just use them as meeting points or to nab a wireless connection when I'm out of the house. Most of their coffee offerings are unpalatable to me as well, but the espresso is ok. Godfrey
Re: Digital Impact on New Photographers
You wouldn't like my bedtime stories - Little Red Riding Hood ends up in a stewing pot after 6 months in the white slave trade. Yes! YES PLEASE Cotty. I want to see what my dreams are like! :) Powell
Re: Digital Impact on New Photographers
Excellent reading Cotty. Thank you very much. Powell At 08:25 AM 13/08/2005 , you wrote: There is an article in this weekend's Guardian newspaper (UK) that I found quite interesting. Unfortunately it's not available online, so I'll read it to you if you like :-) http://www.cottysnaps.com/snaps/movers.html Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
Re: Digital Impact on New Photographers
Cotty, Wonderful reading! I was so intrigued by the article that I submitted a story to Slashdot, along with a link to your quicktime file. HAR! Just kidding. g On 8/13/05, Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There is an article in this weekend's Guardian newspaper (UK) that I found quite interesting. Unfortunately it's not available online, so I'll read it to you if you like :-) http://www.cottysnaps.com/snaps/movers.html Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- Scott Loveless http://www.twosixteen.com -- You have to hold the button down -Arnold Newman
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Re: Photo Vest
For me the lighter the vest the better. I'm using a 10 year old vest from Eddie Bauer and find that the most important thing about using it is to always place specific items in the same pockets so as to not have to fish around looking for something in all the pockets, eg. unexposed rolls in a LH pocket exposed film in a similar pocket on the RH side. Kenneth Waller - Original Message - From: William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Photo Vest - Original Message - From: Lewis Matthew Subject: Re: Photo Vest I have an old Banana Republic Photojournalist's Vest and an Eddie Bauer near copy. Both have plenty of pockets/dividers - perhaps to the geek level. My old vest, which my wife swiped from me is a nicer vest for 35mm sized gear. The outside cargo pockets have a divider which allows two lenses per pocket, and it keeps them seperated so they don't injure each other. The Domke would be better for MF/LF as the cargo pockets are undivided and so can carry bigger lenses or film holders, but the weight becomes a terrible disadvantage with the larger equipment. I don't really think vests are the way to go for MF/LF, which is fine, I am pretty sure Jens is not shooting that stuff anyway. I could see the Domke being great for a videographer, or someone who is shooting larger 35mm gear (Canon comes to mind) because of the bigger cargo pockets. William Robb
RE: Photo Vest
This sounds to me like a very good idea. I can certainly imagine myself misplacing stuff all the time :-) BTW: The ones I like best, judging from pics and description), among those offered at ebay are: The Canon Eos vest and the Fotodiox vest (Deluxe Pro Photo Vest) Jens Bladt -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: Kenneth Waller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sendt: 13. august 2005 23:01 Til: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Emne: Re: Photo Vest For me the lighter the vest the better. I'm using a 10 year old vest from Eddie Bauer and find that the most important thing about using it is to always place specific items in the same pockets so as to not have to fish around looking for something in all the pockets, eg. unexposed rolls in a LH pocket exposed film in a similar pocket on the RH side. Kenneth Waller - Original Message - From: William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Photo Vest - Original Message - From: Lewis Matthew Subject: Re: Photo Vest I have an old Banana Republic Photojournalist's Vest and an Eddie Bauer near copy. Both have plenty of pockets/dividers - perhaps to the geek level. My old vest, which my wife swiped from me is a nicer vest for 35mm sized gear. The outside cargo pockets have a divider which allows two lenses per pocket, and it keeps them seperated so they don't injure each other. The Domke would be better for MF/LF as the cargo pockets are undivided and so can carry bigger lenses or film holders, but the weight becomes a terrible disadvantage with the larger equipment. I don't really think vests are the way to go for MF/LF, which is fine, I am pretty sure Jens is not shooting that stuff anyway. I could see the Domke being great for a videographer, or someone who is shooting larger 35mm gear (Canon comes to mind) because of the bigger cargo pockets. William Robb
Re: PESO playground
The vertical I just posted removes the poles and other swings, but keeps the merry-go-round. Lemme know what you think. Compositionally an improvement IMHO. Now if you just had the sky from your first post... Kenneth Waller - Original Message - From: Scott Loveless [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: PESO playground Thanks, Ken. Apparently, you're not alone in your opinion. See my previous reply to glen. New link to a vertical composition. Actually, I like the extra stuff in the photo. To me, they add a sense of location. The vertical I just posted removes the poles and other swings, but keeps the merry-go-round. Lemme know what you think. On 8/12/05, Kenneth Waller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As captured, this doesn't work for me, cluttered distracting. I like the theme though. However with a slightly different perspective it looks like you could place the seat of the swing away from its merging with the mountain line lose the distracting ground play toys the swing chain on the LH side the swing pipe on the RH side. Might work better in a vertical composition. Just my $.02 worth.. Kenneth Waller -Original Message- From: Scott Loveless [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: PESO playground Crap. Sorry. It's late and I haven't had any beer. http://twosixteen.com/gallery/index.php?id=151 Thanks for the head's up, Glen. On 8/11/05, Glen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 10:07 PM 8/11/2005, you wrote: This was taken at a public park near my home. Hi Scott, I didn't find the playground picture with the mountain. I only saw some very urban looking street scenes. Are you sure you gave us the right URL? take care, Glen -- Scott Loveless http://www.twosixteen.com -- You have to hold the button down -Arnold Newman PeoplePC Online A better way to Internet http://www.peoplepc.com -- Scott Loveless http://www.twosixteen.com -- You have to hold the button down -Arnold Newman
RE: PAW - Leafy Garden
Very nice, David. And quite difficult to get right too. I too use a mask in the viewfinder of my 6x6 Pentacon. A golden section one. I never really liked the square format. The exposed frames, however, are of course unaffected. I would rather like to learn how to use the square format right. But I find this very difficult. I just don't get it. To me composition is almost always strangly linked to the golden section qualities of the ordenary, rectangular format. I tend to use the 6x6 format as if were a 645, which I don't need to ratate for landscape or portrait captures. I like panoramas very much, though. Jens Bladt Arkitekt MAA http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: David Mann [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sendt: 13. august 2005 12:27 Til: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Emne: PAW - Leafy Garden I really need to improve my titles but I tend to fill out my PAW forms in a hurry :) Rather than look through my archive for something nice to scan, I thought I'd post something recent for once. A couple of weeks ago I loaded up the 6x7 and took it out for a bit of exercise. I'd just cobbled up a panoramic viewfinder mask(*) and wanted to try it out, but about half of my photos ended up being full- frame. http://www.bluemoon.net.nz/photo/printsdb/view.php?print_id=98t=PAW I've cropped it a little: in the original there is about 10% extra on both the top and the right. I took this on an expired roll of Reala because I was carrying a bare minimum of gear, choosing to bring the metered prism instead of the external spot meter. I haven't used the metered prism much and I didn't want to risk ruining slides. The downside is that I hate scanning negs. Comments are welcome, as long as they're about the photo and not the web page which I already know needs work. Once I've finished my client's database project, that's when I'll work on my own website :) Cheers, - Dave (*) The mask is just a couple of lines drawn on a piece of mylar transparency. I made this one after I found that my first attempt, based on some plastic from an old CD jewel case, would only work with the waist-level finder as the bottom of the prism finder protrudes into the focussing screen assembly. The piece of mylar is no good with the waist-level finder as there's nothing to hold it in place. Nevermind, I'd rather carry two masks than draw new lines on my wonderful grid screen. BTW the reason why I made the mask is because my scanner can scan the central 25mm-wide section of a 6x9 slide at 4800ppi optical, instead of 3200ppi for the full frame. The viewfinder mask allows me to compose with this in mind. I've scanned a couple of my old panoramas like this and the results were fantastic when printed on roll paper.
Re: The Photographer's Rights
On Saturday, August 13, 2005, at 12:48 PM, Cotty wrote: If you stalk a moose with illicit photographic intentions, expect to be arrested ;-) And if you're a moose gooser, man you better watch out!! Them Moose Goosers by: Mason Williams How about Them Moose Goosers, Ain't they recluse? Up in them boondocks Goosin' them moose. Goosin' them huge moose, Goosin' them tiny, Goosin' them meadow-moose, In they hiny. Look at Them Moose Goosers, Ain't they dumb? Some use an umbrella, Some use a thumb. Them obtuse Moose Goosers, Sneakin' through the woods, Pokin' them snoozy moose In they goods. How to be a Moose Gooser? I'll turn ye puce. Gitchy gooser loose and Rouse a drowsy moose! Bob
Re: My visit with Ann
- Original Message - From: Scott Loveless Subject: Re: My visit with Ann Wonderful photos, Bill. I really like roadwalk. Thanks Scott. It's pretty dead center as far as composition goes, but I tend to shoot things that way. Care to share your opinion of the 750? I'd certainly be interested. I quite like the little thing. I shot some tiffs with it, and they take a while to send to card, but jpegs are fast enough. It's got all the bad things that go along with the breed, the viewfinder is kinda sucky, but the LCD works well enough, and it is pretty slow to take a picture once the button is pushed, but all digital PS cameras share this trait . It's small without being too tiny. The 5mp Optio I was looking at was one of the fits in an Altoids tin cameras, and I decided it was too small, I figured I would lose it for sure. The sensor is a wee bit noisy, but not objectionably so. I've seen much worse. I leave the iso set to auto adjust, so I am getting the occassional really noisy picture from it, but I figure that is in conditions that I would have to increase the ISO anyway. The mode button is a bit stiff to move, which is a good thing, my old Canon was so easy to turn that you had to be continually checking the mode dial to ensure you were shooting what you wanted to shoot. It has a cool little light meter in manual, and is pretty easy to use manually. The rocker switch adjusts both aperture and shutter speed, and it gives a clipping warning for both highlights and shadows on the preview if you so desire. Overall, I'm happy with it. I wish it would take an external flash, and being able to put lens filters on would also be nice, but I expect the camera would get even larger (like the Canon G series), which would not be so nice. It's a good compromise camera. William Robb
Re: My visit with Ann
- Original Message - From: Bob Sullivan Subject: Re: My visit with Ann Wow, the Optio 750? I thought it was the *istD you were using. Nope, that was the Optio. Pretty darned good little camera. William Robb
Re: The Photographer's Rights
- Original Message - From: Powell Hargrave Subject: The Photographer's Rights Canadians as usual are stuck somewhere in the middle. The two versions are interesting but not 100% relevant. Does anyone know the Canadian rules? Or is there a Canadian legal mind why could spell it out? We seem to be better off than either the USA or the Brits. I suppose this is the result of having a pretty non threatening military force. No one can be bothered with us. The only real restriction that I have heard about involves taking pictures of children, which has gotten offensively restrictive. A guy in Winnipeg got kicked out of a sports complex for taking pictures of his kids in a swimming pool. Apparently, because there was the possibility that he could photograph kids other than his own, he was doing an undesirable thing. They step on our rights based on the politics of the day. We haven't been messed up by terrorists yet, so there has been no jerking knees in that direction, but what with the infamous Karla just getting out of jail and all, our politicians are all snot faced about protecting the children. The politcos have to appear to be doing something, so they do whatever is expedient to quell the fears of whatever has a bug up someones bottom that day. We still seem to be mired in the whole kiddie porn, must protect the kiddies thing in Canada. William Robb
Re: Digital Impact on New Photographers
On 13/8/05, Scott Loveless, discombobulated, unleashed: Wonderful reading! I was so intrigued by the article that I submitted a story to Slashdot, along with a link to your quicktime file. HAR! Just kidding. g Geees, don't do that to me. My eyes grew very wide at that first sentence. The page will only be up for a few days, or until I get a writ delivered Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
Re: Leaving for London
I take my tea aboard the Enterprise, when I can. Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
Dreaming of a fast 70-210mm or 80-200mm AF zoom
I use the SMC Pentax-F 4-5.6/70-210mm a lot. But it's often too slow. The FA 2.8 Pentax 80-200mm is almost three times as expensive as a similar Sigma lens. A Tokina 2.8 AT-X 80-200mm is only appr. 50% of the Sigma. This makes the Pentax lens is 6 times as expensive as the Tokina! Is it really worth this it? Jens Bladt Arkitekt MAA http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt
Re: The Photographer's Rights
On 13/8/05, Bob Shell, discombobulated, unleashed: On Saturday, August 13, 2005, at 12:48 PM, Cotty wrote: If you stalk a moose with illicit photographic intentions, expect to be arrested ;-) And if you're a moose gooser, man you better watch out!! Them Moose Goosers by: Mason Williams How about Them Moose Goosers, Ain't they recluse? Up in them boondocks Goosin' them moose. LOL! This reminds me about something i read when I was a kid - Moose Juice? I'm sure it was Dr Seuss. Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
Winder ME, anyone?
Hi all, I'm in the street in SF, in a flea market. Someone has an ME winder, in the box, for $6. If anyone's interested, send me an email within 10-15', and I'll grab it for you. Cheers, j -- Juan Buhler http://www.jbuhler.com photoblog at http://photoblog.jbuhler.com
RE: Dreaming of a fast 70-210mm or 80-200mm AF zoom
Jens, I don't know about the others but I have an ATX 80-200/2.8 manual focus and I love it. Bokeh is a bit harsh like the other Tokinas but all in all a superb lens. Cost me $249.00 US in excellent condition, had to get it cleaned for $66.00 but Adorama reimbursed me for that. Don -Original Message- From: Jens Bladt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2005 5:37 PM To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Dreaming of a fast 70-210mm or 80-200mm AF zoom I use the SMC Pentax-F 4-5.6/70-210mm a lot. But it's often too slow. The FA 2.8 Pentax 80-200mm is almost three times as expensive as a similar Sigma lens. A Tokina 2.8 AT-X 80-200mm is only appr. 50% of the Sigma. This makes the Pentax lens is 6 times as expensive as the Tokina! Is it really worth this it? Jens Bladt Arkitekt MAA http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt
PESO: A Ford for Ken
Shot a few more pics on Woodward last night. I tried an even slower shutter speed. This one is at 7/10ths of a second, f8, ISO 400. It was shot just after the ball went down. And it's a Ford, which should please of resident Ford man, Mr. Waller. Although I have to say right up front, that this car precedes Ken's days with the company by a few years. I may try a few tonight with fill flash on trailing curtain shutter. http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3631900size=lg
Re: My visit with Ann
Nice pics, Bill. I like the road shots. Good to see Ann made it all the way up North. I suppose we won't hear from her for quite a while now. On Aug 13, 2005, at 5:46 PM, William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: Bob Sullivan Subject: Re: My visit with Ann Wow, the Optio 750? I thought it was the *istD you were using. Nope, that was the Optio. Pretty darned good little camera. William Robb
PESO: Leap of Faith
I had planned a proper PAW for today, but now I can't. It looked cool in the viewfinder, fine on the neg on a light table under a loupe, but when I got the 8x10 back today, I had to file it under what the hell was I thinking?!? Sigh... But, I also got back a roll I took at the beach with the kids a couple of weeks ago. We went to Sandbanks Provincial Park, near Kingston, Ontario, Canada. Lovely place: natural sand dunes right around where Lake Ontario empties into the St. Lawrence River. It's quite a large place, and we beached at a spot where a sand dune of several hundred feet falls right into the water - the beach is only about 5 or 6 feet wide between the sand dune and the water (which was pristine and a perfect temperature). There were a bunch of teenagers there who had set up an inflatable mini-tramp, and were running at top speed down the dune (half falling, mostly out of control), then jumping onto the trampoline and into the water. They looked like they were having a great time, as were the spectators. I snapped a few, including this one: http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3631907size=lg Comments are always encouraged and appreciated. Thanks! cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson
Re: My visit with Ann
On 8/13/05, William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nope, that was the Optio. Pretty darned good little camera. I recall seeing yours at GFM, Bill. I gotta say, it's really nice looking, along with being a good size (not too small or big) and (as we can see) being capable of taking high-quality photos. It has a real retro rangefinder look to it that I really like. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson
Re: Leaving for London
On 8/13/05, Scott Loveless [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 8/13/05, Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just tell everyone to meet at the Starbucks at the corner of Criminy! The over-priced-burnt-coffee plague has spread to England. On behalf of Americans who appreciate decent coffee, I'm really sorry. Thank you, Scott!! When I share your opinion with anyone who listens to me (an admittedly small cross-section of people g), they look at me as if I have three heads (last time I checked, I only had one). I would avoid Starbucks for their corporate imperialism alone, but the fact that they make lousy coffee only reinforces my conviction. And, yes, it is burnt! They obviously don't know how to roast their beans (from a man who buys green beans and roasts them at home - it's simple!). cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson
Re: PESO: A Ford for Ken
On 8/13/05, Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Shot a few more pics on Woodward last night. I tried an even slower shutter speed. This one is at 7/10ths of a second, f8, ISO 400. It was shot just after the ball went down. And it's a Ford, which should please of resident Ford man, Mr. Waller. Although I have to say right up front, that this car precedes Ken's days with the company by a few years. I may try a few tonight with fill flash on trailing curtain shutter. http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3631900size=lg Paul, you rock! What a cool photo. Love it. My PAW for next week (assuming the print looks like I hope it does from looking at the neg) is something along the lines of all these wonderful photos you've been sharing with us lately. I thought of you when I looked at the negs today. What a wonderful series you have with your shots from this year. I look forward to more! cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson
Re: PESO: A Ford for Ken
Great picture, Paul! John On Sat, 13 Aug 2005 23:44:07 +0100, Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Shot a few more pics on Woodward last night. I tried an even slower shutter speed. This one is at 7/10ths of a second, f8, ISO 400. It was shot just after the ball went down. And it's a Ford, which should please of resident Ford man, Mr. Waller. Although I have to say right up front, that this car precedes Ken's days with the company by a few years. I may try a few tonight with fill flash on trailing curtain shutter. http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3631900size=lg -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/ -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.10.8/71 - Release Date: 12/08/2005
RE: PESO: Leap of Faith
Super shot Frank! I'm still a bit in shock seeing these sharp, well focused, perfect DOF, COLOR shots from you! ;-) Obviously everyone had a great time, very nice. Don -Original Message- From: frank theriault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2005 5:55 PM To: PDML Subject: PESO: Leap of Faith I had planned a proper PAW for today, but now I can't. It looked cool in the viewfinder, fine on the neg on a light table under a loupe, but when I got the 8x10 back today, I had to file it under what the hell was I thinking?!? Sigh... But, I also got back a roll I took at the beach with the kids a couple of weeks ago. We went to Sandbanks Provincial Park, near Kingston, Ontario, Canada. Lovely place: natural sand dunes right around where Lake Ontario empties into the St. Lawrence River. It's quite a large place, and we beached at a spot where a sand dune of several hundred feet falls right into the water - the beach is only about 5 or 6 feet wide between the sand dune and the water (which was pristine and a perfect temperature). There were a bunch of teenagers there who had set up an inflatable mini-tramp, and were running at top speed down the dune (half falling, mostly out of control), then jumping onto the trampoline and into the water. They looked like they were having a great time, as were the spectators. I snapped a few, including this one: http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3631907size=lg Comments are always encouraged and appreciated. Thanks! cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson
Re: FA: Super-Takumar 85mm f1.9
On 8/13/05, Chris Brogden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Shameless plug for eBay auction ending in 2 days: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=7537349544 We've known that you have no shame for quite some time, Chris. vbg And, you admit you're going non-Pentax digital, eh? For shame! g At least as long as you're in the Brotherhood, you're still eligible to be on the list, I suppose. Oh, hell, who am I kidding. Anyone and his bother is eligible to be on this list. I think there are quite a few here who've long since gotten rid of their Pentaxia... Nice lens, BTW. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson
RE: PESO: A Ford for Ken
Very cool, very Back to the Future ish. Makes it look like a very rough ride. Very 'dynamic', yeah, that's it! ;-) Don -Original Message- From: Paul Stenquist [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2005 5:44 PM To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: PESO: A Ford for Ken Shot a few more pics on Woodward last night. I tried an even slower shutter speed. This one is at 7/10ths of a second, f8, ISO 400. It was shot just after the ball went down. And it's a Ford, which should please of resident Ford man, Mr. Waller. Although I have to say right up front, that this car precedes Ken's days with the company by a few years. I may try a few tonight with fill flash on trailing curtain shutter. http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3631900size=lg
RE: Super-Takumar 85mm f1.9
Nice auction ad copy Chris. I already have one and it still made me drool! ;-) It is a superb lens. Don -Original Message- From: Chris Brogden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2005 3:29 PM To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: FA: Super-Takumar 85mm f1.9 Shameless plug for eBay auction ending in 2 days: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=7537349544 Thanks! Chris
Re: My visit with Ann
- Original Message - From: Paul Stenquist Subject: Re: My visit with Ann Nice pics, Bill. I like the road shots. Good to see Ann made it all the way up North. I suppose we won't hear from her for quite a while now. She is checking her mail when she can, but she isn't on the PDML until she gets home. I think when she gets to Reno, she will be staying with people who don't have a computer. b...
Re: PESO: Leap of Faith
On 8/13/05, Don Sanderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Super shot Frank! Thanks! blush I'm still a bit in shock seeing these sharp, well focused, perfect DOF, COLOR shots from you! ;-) I ~can~ do that stuff, when I really want to (I know it's hard to believe). LOL Obviously everyone had a great time, very nice. Yeah, it was a fun day. Here's a shot from the top of the dune, just to give you a bit of perspective (although one doesn't get the feel for how high or steep the dune is from this shot). You can see the kids setting up their little trampoline just left of centre: http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3631971size=lg Doesn't the water look a lovely shade of blue? We were camped under the trees on the right - a perfect place with shade on a day when the sun was hot and unrelenting (and I don't wear sunblock...). g cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson
Re: PESO: Leap of Faith
Nicely captured. You do realize the main subject is in focus... frank theriault wrote: I had planned a proper PAW for today, but now I can't. It looked cool in the viewfinder, fine on the neg on a light table under a loupe, but when I got the 8x10 back today, I had to file it under what the hell was I thinking?!? Sigh... But, I also got back a roll I took at the beach with the kids a couple of weeks ago. We went to Sandbanks Provincial Park, near Kingston, Ontario, Canada. Lovely place: natural sand dunes right around where Lake Ontario empties into the St. Lawrence River. It's quite a large place, and we beached at a spot where a sand dune of several hundred feet falls right into the water - the beach is only about 5 or 6 feet wide between the sand dune and the water (which was pristine and a perfect temperature). There were a bunch of teenagers there who had set up an inflatable mini-tramp, and were running at top speed down the dune (half falling, mostly out of control), then jumping onto the trampoline and into the water. They looked like they were having a great time, as were the spectators. I snapped a few, including this one: http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3631907size=lg Comments are always encouraged and appreciated. Thanks! cheers, frank -- When you're worried or in doubt, Run in circles, (scream and shout).
