In a message dated 09/11/02 18:43:17 GMT Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Sounds great, tell me when you are going to market the program as I will certainly buy a copy from you.
Or if you like I can Beta test it on the Q60, QPC, Atari-QL etc ... as I have all the set of SMSQ/E favours.
There is a reason I don't like this scheme (even though I wouldn't
totally oppose it, and that's support. Suppose a customer has
problems with SMSQ/E on the Q40 (heaven forbid). Tne he would
contact you and you would have him contact Jochen etc...
Don't think this will happen.
I'm not sure
Phoebus Dokos wrote:
??? 9/11/2002 11:30:47 ??, ?/? Jochen Merz [EMAIL PROTECTED] ??:
Snip of banking details
I understand... and in any case you are a lot more qualified to answer this :-)
Yes, and this qualification has cost me a lot of money :-(
(My
experience is only between
Hi again,
With regard to the payment thing I think that we each should bear
responsibility for our own sales.
I'd rather prefer this too. This helps avoid mistunderstandings
right from the start.
That said I think that an SMSQ/E
Citibank account would be a good idea. We could all pay in,
Hopefully soon - a directive is on the way under which transfers
within the EUR zone may not be more expensive that those within
a country in that zone.
Come to think of it, perhaps national transfer rates are going up,
then :-((
A directive already exists about cash machines in the EUR
On 10 Nov 2002, at 0:28, Roy Wood wrote:
(...)
Wolfgang is the person who could
incorporate the 'patch' into the distribution not DD.
Yes, then it wouldn't be a patch anymore, of course.
Wolfgang
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On 9 Nov 2002, at 19:31, Roy Wood wrote:
You could be saying there
has to be a version of SMSQ/E specially for the Q60. If so you must
discuss this with Wolfgang.
If there was a differnce between the Q60 platform and other
platforms (e.g. the Q40), that could warrant another version. It
On 9 Nov 2002, at 19:44, Roy Wood wrote:
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Derek
Stewart [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes
I am comming to the London Show with a Q60, I hiope things can be sensible.
For my part, as I told Derek privately, my emails may seem a trifle
'spirited' but there is no
Tony Firshman wrote:
On Sat, 9 Nov 2002 at 14:45:21, dndsystems1 wrote:
(ref: 00a501c287fe$d1851d00$4f6887d9@asusone)
I know from what you have said that you have used
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
This is a redundant address that I use for reading this list,
nothing
else. If
On Sun, 10 Nov 2002, Wolfgang Lenerz wrote:
Under penalty of being qualified by Dexter as a TT groupie, I must
say that, if there were defects in the OS and he was made aware of
them, he did fix them.
Ummm, no, you're not a groupie! If anything, I am more of a groupie than
you are. I used
Tony Firshman wrote:
I am no expert, but people in the know say that the 'from' address is
the major cause of spam. The 'reply to' is not often used, so Lafe's
suggestion is OK.
This is only true in Usenet for the simple reason that the from
address is already contained in the overview of a
On 8 Nov 2002, at 21:10, Tony Firshman wrote:
Not often enough (8-)#
Hmm I wuld have thought
Never mind.
:-)))
Wolfgang
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From: Dave P [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2002 9:06 PM
Subject: Re: [ql-users] Software pirates in our midst?
On Wed, 6 Nov 2002, Jochen Merz wrote:
maybe I can add a bit of clarification here.
Thanks
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From: Dave P [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2002 6:03 PM
Subject: Re: [ql-users] Software pirates in our midst?
On Wed, 6 Nov 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
the presumption is that DD have sold Q60s with SMSQ/E - after
- Original Message -
From: Malcolm Cadman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, November 08, 2002 8:51 PM
Subject: Re: [ql-users] Software pirates in our midst?
In article 01d701c286ae$2bf4f320$91f4193e@asusone, dndsystems1
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes
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- Original Message -
From: Tony Firshman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2002 9:25 PM
Subject: Re: [ql-users] Software pirates in our midst?
On Wed, 6 Nov 2002 at 21:06:28, Dave P wrote:
(ref: [EMAIL PROTECTED])
On Wed, 6 Nov 2002
Hi Dennis,
Why doesn't that work? Better still, the customer gives DD the money
to pass on to Jochen, and he just takes it from our credit card.
That's what I want to happen and it frees up more time for me to work
on what I should be doing. How's that? Seems fair.
Yes, that's fine if I
On Sat, 9 Nov 2002 at 13:53:10, dndsystems1 wrote:
(ref: 00a401c287fe$d067c620$4f6887d9@asusone)
- Original Message -
From: Tony Firshman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2002 9:25 PM
Subject: Re: [ql-users] Software pirates in our midst
1. Direct bank transfer doesn't cost ALL that much if done correctly... ie. There are
services that charge a nominal fee of about 10 Eur for ANY amount you transfer. In
that effect, you can wait until a sum is collected and then send it as a whole.
... that highly depends on the originating
??? 9/11/2002 11:30:47 ??, ?/? Jochen Merz [EMAIL PROTECTED] ??:
Snip of banking details
I understand... and in any case you are a lot more qualified to answer this :-) (My
experience is only between Greece and the US and US and UK -ask Bill Waugh ;-) -
for bank transfer and with PayPal for
Hi,
I am comming to the London Show with a Q60, I hiope things can be sensible.
I just wish I could receive 90-100 emails about program development on SMSQ/E, as
there is really a lag in the quality development.
It is all very well having a good operating system, but where are the upto
??? 9/11/2002 1:42:33 ??, ?/? Derek Stewart [EMAIL PROTECTED] ??:
Hi,
I am comming to the London Show with a Q60, I hiope things can be sensible.
I just wish I could receive 90-100 emails about program development on SMSQ/E,
as there is really a lag in the quality development.
Well
On Sat, 09 Nov 2002 13:15:30 -0500
Phoebus Dokos [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
??? 9/11/2002 1:42:33 ??, ?/? Derek Stewart [EMAIL PROTECTED] ??:
Hi,
I am comming to the London Show with a Q60, I hiope things can be sensible.
I just wish I could receive 90-100 emails about program
On 9 Nov 2002, at 14:45, dndsystems1 wrote:
I have called Wolfgang a fool on this list for using the wrong address
while I was waiting for his incomming. :-)))
Oh dear, oh dear, oh dear. How wrong can things go?
Wolfgang, the above mess is DDs fault. Please accept my apology on
behalf
??? 9/11/2002 2:44:20 ??, ?/? Derek Stewart [EMAIL PROTECTED]
??:
On Sat, 09 Nov 2002 13:15:30 -0500
Phoebus Dokos [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
??? 9/11/2002 1:42:33 ??, ?/? Derek Stewart [EMAIL PROTECTED]
??:
Hi,
I am comming to the London Show with a Q60, I hiope things can
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Derek
Stewart [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes
I am comming to the London Show with a Q60, I hiope things can be sensible.
For my part, as I told Derek privately, my emails may seem a trifle
'spirited' but there is no personal malice involved. All I want is that
we get
Hi Roy,
Rowing again
On Sat, 9 Nov 2002 19:31:37 +
Roy Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In message 00a401c287fe$d067c620$4f6887d9@asusone, dndsystems1
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes
DD, according to their adverts, are selling a patched version.
This is precisely what Wolfgang is
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Derek
Stewart [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes
Hi Roy,
Rowing again
No not really.
If I remember correctly, you asked me for a copy to try on your Q40, when you
came back, and said that it did not work, I said, when get a Q60 it is
better than the
Q40. As you see
TO WHOM?
WHEN?
(no reply here...)
Peter paid Jochen, so?
Well, Peter bought a few licenses beginning of February,
after that only manuals WITHOUT license!
Wolfgang did not know about this - that's why he
tried to find out with you what is going on.
And in my opinion that was the
I have lost a complete evenings work messing about with is silly
email
stuff instead of working. A bit of a dent in the production
schedule,
never mind its all for a good cause, or is it? Makes you wonder
sometimes. If I get to bed before 1:00am it won't be too bad, better
than the 4 hours I
I was debating purchasing QPC but unfortunately I'm now a Mac user
and the
PC with the ISA slot is failing through old age. I am seriously
debating
the possibility of looking at uQLx and the possibility of getting
the QXL
running under linux/BSD. This won't help me directly because the Mac
BTW speaking of parties, which was that UK party? .. the one with
the
totally crazy name and the crazier members??
The Monster Raving Loony Party. Used to be led by Screaming Lord
Sutch,
until his untimely death (suicide by hanging). It is now led by his
cat.
Their website:
??? 8/11/2002 3:38:30 ??, ?/? Tony Firshman [EMAIL PROTECTED] ??:
Monster Raving Loony Party - Screaming Lord Such?
He often got more votes than 'legitimate' parties.
He is dead now, but Roy, as an ex pop star, should take over his role
(8-)#
Yes that's the one :-)
You did me a great
On Fri, 8 Nov 2002 at 05:58:42, Phoebus Dokos wrote:
(ref: UTICWR05TN091TWSHCLK2U06RMC7DBQO.3dcb98e2@quantumcentral)
??? 8/11/2002 3:38:30 ??, ?/? Tony Firshman [EMAIL PROTECTED] ??:
Monster Raving Loony Party - Screaming Lord Such?
He often got more votes than 'legitimate' parties.
He is
On 8 Nov 2002, at 12:18, Mike MacNamara wrote:
Hi Wolfgang
That's what I feared, if I need any further support on any of my
existing copies, or indeed updates or fixes. I will have to buy a
new license and lose the old ones.
Umm, sorry where did that come from? All we were talking about
On 8 Nov 2002, at 11:47, Tony Firshman wrote:
(...) The best course is to stop thinking,
How do you do that?
Does it happen often to you?...
grin
Wolfgang
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On Thu, 7 Nov 2002 23:46:36 +
Roy Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In message 023001c286b2$90e7b480$91f4193e@asusone, dndsystems1
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes
Roy Wood - read this.
From Peter reguarding never ending story from you about illeagl
versions.
It was a
Thanks Roy Wolfgang
My concerns are answered
Regards
Mike
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
www.macnamaras.com
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From: Roy Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, November 08, 2002 8:45 PM
Subject: Re: [ql-users] Software pirates in our midst?
Hi Roy
Nice
On Fri, 8 Nov 2002 at 18:28:49, Wolfgang Lenerz wrote:
(ref: 3DCC0261.6167.2100FElocalhost)
On 8 Nov 2002, at 11:47, Tony Firshman wrote:
(...) The best course is to stop thinking,
How do you do that?
Does it happen often to you?...
grin
Not often enough (8-)#
--
QBBS (QL fido
In article 022801c28715$08112700$cc075cc3@blackpc, Dilwyn Jones
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes
I was debating purchasing QPC but unfortunately I'm now a Mac user
Dave, don't forget there is a QL emulator for the Mac machines
(QemuLator). I think AL Boehm over there has experience of using it,
if
In article 9A4TMJMOnvy9EwK$@firshman.demon.co.uk, Tony Firshman
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes
On Thu, 7 Nov 2002 at 20:52:36, Malcolm Cadman wrote:
(ref: [EMAIL PROTECTED])
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Tarquin Mills
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes
In 2000 I went to the London workshop, I saw the Q40
Wolfgang Lenerz wrote:
On 8 Nov 2002, at 11:47, Tony Firshman wrote:
(...) The best course is to stop thinking,
How do you do that?
Does it happen often to you?...
grin
Wolfgang
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www.wlenerz.com
I get brain farts all the time, was WORSE when I was in the thick
of
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Derek
Stewart [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes
Well Roy, since I am the person you are quoting, why not quote all of
what I said, which was -
Buy a Q60 it is faster than a Q40
But I guess you will not remember this.
Oh I remember it well but I also replied
Roy Wood wrote:
SNIP
I don't care how fast it is. That makes no sense. I do care that the
system works for as many users as possible and that was what I was
trying to establish. That is also why I remain in full support of a
license which tries to make this possible,
--
Roy Wood
This
On Thu, 7 Nov 2002 at 02:01:09, Jeremy Taffel wrote:
(ref: 007e01c28601$8a88b6e0$afba0050taff3)
One thing that puzzles me; Dennis states that Wolfgang used the wrong
address so he never received it. However the wrong address seems to be the
one that Derek uses to contact this list.
I keep
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From: Tony Firshman [mailto:tony;firshman.co.uk]
Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2002 10:04 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [ql-users] Software pirates in our midst?
I object to being linked to the UK Tory party (8-)#
This email is intended only for the use of the addressees named above
PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2002 1:05 PM
Subject: Re: [ql-users] Software pirates in our midst?
On 7 Nov 2002, at 11:53, Mike MacNamara wrote:
Do you mean that the many copies I have of SMSQ, if I don't
agree to
be bound a a new imposed license, are illegal. That can't be
right, I
On Thu, 7 Nov 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
This also requires them to contribute their
changes to other branches of SMSQ too, and to divulge their
intellectual property.
NO. Read the licence again.
quote:
When such a proposal is made, the person proposing it may state
whether its
Do you mean that the many copies I have of SMSQ, if I don't agree
to be bound a a new imposed license, are illegal. That can't be
right, I have bought an item, and must surely be able to continue
using it, while still being entitled to expect it is repaired or
updated under warranty, ( sale of
Sorry to labour the point, not only I, but hundreds of others,
have purchased multiple copies of SMSQ/E with various bits and
bobs over many years. Don't tell me now that the copies Roy Wood
sells of SMSQ Gold which has been altered (not just repaired) is
illegal, and that I am a pirate.
Just
Ummm, that's exactly what I said. Not only source has intellectual
property rights. The compiled code does too. If they're forced to include
the results of their labors (if any) into every other version, regardless
then two things happen:
Funnily enough that evil commercial software developer
You are quite welcome to a copy of the free version of SMSQ which was
supplied with it. I can email it to you if want. SMSQ/E was always a
paid version and you can buy that if you want.
Thank you for the offer but you didn't supply the QXL and I still have a
debt to the person who did.
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Tarquin Mills
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes
In 2000 I went to the London workshop, I saw the Q40 and liked it.
In 2001 I went to the Byfleet workshop, tried to purchase a Q40 but QBranch
and the Grafs had split, so could not.
In 2002 I will go to the London workshop, I
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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2002 10:03 AM
Subject: Re: [ql-users] Software pirates in our midst?
On Thu, 7 Nov 2002 at 01:28:45, P Witte wrote:
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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2002 7:08 AM
Subject: Re: [ql-users] Software pirates in our midst?
On 6 Nov 2002, at 21:23, dndsystems1 wrote:
That is the wrong address you fool and you know it.
Hmm, it's
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Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2002 7:08 AM
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On 6 Nov 2002, at 22:26, dndsystems1 wrote:
Peter has paid the licences in advance of sales. Sales to the end
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From: Roy Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2002 9:48 PM
Subject: Re: [ql-users] Software pirates in our midst?
Roy Wood - read this.
From Peter reguarding never ending story from you about illeagl
versions
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From: Dave P [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2002 3:54 AM
Subject: Re: [ql-users] Software pirates in our midst?
On Thu, 7 Nov 2002, dndsystems1 wrote:
You cannot be serious, man. We have a contracted agreement
In message 023001c286b2$90e7b480$91f4193e@asusone, dndsystems1
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes
Roy Wood - read this.
From Peter reguarding never ending story from you about illeagl
versions.
It was a bug in the memory manager. TT told me that he was desperately
searching but
On Thu, 7 Nov 2002 at 22:31:35, Bill Waugh wrote:
(ref: 00c601c286ad$6ee41220$b06401d5@famwaugh)
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From: Tony Firshman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2002 10:03 AM
Subject: Re: [ql-users] Software pirates in our midst
On Thu, 7 Nov 2002 at 20:52:36, Malcolm Cadman wrote:
(ref: [EMAIL PROTECTED])
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Tarquin Mills
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes
In 2000 I went to the London workshop, I saw the Q40 and liked it.
In 2001 I went to the Byfleet workshop, tried to purchase a Q40 but QBranch
??? 7/11/2002 6:37:57 ??, ?/? Tony Firshman [EMAIL PROTECTED] ??:
I would have thought a property magnate ( sheds ) with access to the
ear of Radio 4 would have been a natural (;-)
(8-)#
... and I now have seven sheds.
Hmmm a clear win for PM Blair's policies Maybe they should turn it
At 00:19 08/11/2002, you wrote:
??? 7/11/2002 6:37:57 ??, ?/? Tony Firshman [EMAIL PROTECTED] ??:
I would have thought a property magnate ( sheds ) with access to the
ear of Radio 4 would have been a natural (;-)
(8-)#
... and I now have seven sheds.
Hmmm a clear win for PM Blair's
On 7 Nov 2002, at 23:21, Mike MacNamara wrote:
(...). Which license would it be under, old or new??
This would be the new licence. But, anyway, for the end user
nothing much has changed, apart from the fact that, if they are
technically literate, they can get the sources and tinker with
On 7 Nov 2002, at 21:46, dndsystems1 wrote:
But he has asked you, correct.
Not after the licence came into force correct...
You have not told him, correct. So I do
not know, correct.
You are selling them. correct. You must ask correct. You didn't
still correct. etc...
This is a
On 6 Nov 2002, at 3:46, Dave P wrote:
And the question is Is Wolfgang able to treat DD fairly in light of
his sense that they are seemingly ignoring his perceived authority?
This something I cannot let by.
There are always two sides to a authority - a moral and and a legal
one.
One has a
On 5 Nov 2002, at 20:07, Bill Waugh wrote:
(...)
There are not enough of us left that we should start an us and them
war.
It's true that we are a small cmmunity. But surely that doesn't
mean that people should be behaving in an improper manner.?
Wolfgang
On 5 Nov 2002, at 16:13, Öïßâïò Ñ. Íôüêïò wrote:
> 3. I and I believe
> others up until now were under the impression that according to our
> original "terms of purchase" we were entitled to free upgrades.
That hasn't changed, has it?
> That
> was the idea behind QPC (where the price for an
On 6 Nov 2002, at 2:25, P Witte wrote:
(...) it appears we may have a
rebel camp that is hell-bound on doing what it pleases whatever anyone
else may think. Isnt that what its all about?
I fear that it is, though, perhaps not even directly from DD.
As to the rest of Per's message, I
Hi Geoff,
In fairness to Wolfgang let it be said that this is not a new problem. I
have known about it for some weeks, and you can be certain that a lot of
activity has gone on in the background to try to resolve the situation.
It seems that a certian number of people knew about the problem,
On Tue, 5 Nov 2002, dndsystems1 wrote:
Has this bloke gone nuts? We have been producing the Q60 for over a
year and Wolfgang has never contacted me once, even though he agreed
to do so with Tony Firshman and Derek. So I am still waiting for this
contact or is this above the contact he
On Wed, 6 Nov 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Just DON'T assume that I haven't tried to settle this previously in a
discreet and diplomatic way.
Dude! :o)
Ok, so this was a mistep because you got the wrong tone, even if the
message was right. There is now public awareness of the ambiguity of
Hi,
maybe I can add a bit of clarification here.
Most of you know that, before Wolfgang became registrar, all
SMSQ/E related royalties and licenses matters went through me
to Tony. That was the fact for ALL SMSQ/E royalties, including
the Q40/Q60.
The Grafs may have lawfully purchased the
On Wed, 6 Nov 2002 at 21:06:28, Dave P wrote:
(ref: [EMAIL PROTECTED])
On Wed, 6 Nov 2002, Jochen Merz wrote:
maybe I can add a bit of clarification here.
Thanks for the clarification.
As a member of the public, Wolfgang's approach aside, I can now see how he
arrived there (just wish he
On Tue, 5 Nov 2002 at 08:46:11, Phoebus Dokos wrote:
(ref: [EMAIL PROTECTED])
Wolfgang,
I was under the impression that Peter had acquired (ie paid) the rights
to resell/modify SMSQ/E... Since DD systems act as his agents under
British (and American) Common law (which not only gives them
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From: Dave P [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2002 5:43 PM
Subject: Re: [ql-users] Software pirates in our midst?
On Tue, 5 Nov 2002, dndsystems1 wrote:
Has this bloke gone nuts? We have been producing the Q60 for over
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2002 7:53 AM
Subject: Re: [ql-users] Software pirates in our midst?
On 5 Nov 2002, at 23:20, dndsystems1 wrote:
Has this bloke gone nuts? We have been producing the Q60 for over
On Wed, 6 Nov 2002, Tony Firshman wrote:
The main point of the license is to ensure there is only one approved
version in the field.
DD, according to their adverts, are selling a patched version.
This is precisely what Wolfgang is striving to avoid.
Hmmm, another problem with the
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From: Norman Dunbar [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2002 9:47 AM
Subject: RE: [ql-users] Software pirates in our midst?
Morning Dennis,
now that you have responded, is there any chance that a meaningful
exchange
- Original Message -
From: Jochen Merz [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2002 6:57 PM
Subject: Re: [ql-users] Software pirates in our midst?
Hi,
maybe I can add a bit of clarification here.
Most of you know that, before Wolfgang became
On Wed, 6 Nov 2002, dndsystems1 wrote:
Thanks for your support Dave, always welcome :-)
Well, it's such a polarised debate, I figure I should at least take both
sides to be fair ;)
Since you're here - what's the chance of a Q60 that comes without a
processor, for those of us that have 060's
In 2000 I went to the London workshop, I saw the Q40 and liked it.
In 2001 I went to the Byfleet workshop, tried to purchase a Q40 but QBranch
and the Grafs had split, so could not.
In 2002 I will go to the London workshop, I was going to buy a Q60 but now I
find out that they seem to be illegal.
DD, according to their adverts, are selling a patched version.
This is precisely what Wolfgang is striving to avoid.
Hmmm, another problem with the license.
No because the licence forbids the distribution of unauthorised
versions. Simple. Put the worms back in the can.
--
Roy Wood
Q
- Original Message -
From: Dave P [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2002 11:53 PM
Subject: Re: [ql-users] Software pirates in our midst?
On Wed, 6 Nov 2002, dndsystems1 wrote:
Thanks for your support Dave, always welcome :-)
Well, it's
One thing that puzzles me; Dennis states that Wolfgang used the wrong
address so he never received it. However the wrong address seems to be the
one that Derek uses to contact this list. I've never come across a send
only email address before.
Wolfgang, with the benefit of hindsight, don't you
On 6 Nov 2002, at 21:42, dndsystems1 wrote:
The reply I will post with this should sort Wolfgangs problem out. I
get the impression he has always used the wrong address hence 'Black
hole syndrome' never mind he can take it all back later on :-)
There seems nothing to take back
Wolfgang
On 6 Nov 2002, at 20:34, Bill Waugh wrote:
Can't argue with that, but few things fit easily into a black or white
catagory
Actually, I was hoping to get some explanation from DD to make
this entire thing a bit less black and a bit more grey...
what is occuring ( as usual ) is a discussion
On 6 Nov 2002, at 21:23, dndsystems1 wrote:
That is the wrong address you fool and you know it.
Hmm, it's the address YOU use to post on here.
Since it is foolish to use - what?
Do you think I
have not searched through that address, you have been informed of the
correct address to use but
Hi all,
I just wanted to point out something to the general QL world at
large: as you all know, SMSQ/E is being made available publicly,
under a licence that was discussed at length here.
This licence is now the current licence for all versions of SMSQ/E.
Under this licence, only appointed
??? 5/11/2002 9:24:38 ??, ?/? Marcel Kilgus ql-
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Phoebus Dokos wrote:
I was under the impression that Peter had acquired (ie
paid) the rights to
resell/modify SMSQ/E...
No, he didn't.
Marcel
In that case you can forget what I wrote :-) Although my
assumption
??? 5/11/2002 9:36:12 ??, ?/? Bill Cable [EMAIL PROTECTED]
??:
Wolfgang,
What if you already own a current legal copy of SMSQ/E in
QPC2 or some other
way when you buy a Q40/60 as many already do. Surely you
do not have to buy it
twice.
-- Bill
Now that's an interesting thought :-).
On Tue, 5 Nov 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi all,
I just wanted to point out something to the general QL world at
large: as you all know, SMSQ/E is being made available publicly,
under a licence that was discussed at length here.
This licence is now the current licence for all versions
On 5 Nov 2002, at 8:46, Phoebus Dokos wrote:
Wolfgang,
I was under the impression that Peter had acquired (ie paid) the rights to
resell/modify SMSQ/E...
Not that I know of
Even it isn't so, I do not believe that DD would want to hijack the
software only that there's an honest
On 5 Nov 2002, at 10:05, Öïßâïò Ñ. Íôüêïò wrote:
Now that's an interesting thought :-). However Bill, that's
(legally) up to the software license. If it doesn't EXPLICITLY
state that for every platform you NEED to have a separate
copy of the software (I haven't read the finalized license in
On 5 Nov 2002, at 9:36, Bill Cable wrote:
Wolfgang,
What if you already own a current legal copy of SMSQ/E in QPC2 or some other
way when you buy a Q40/60 as many already do. Surely you do not have to buy it
twice.
-- Bill
Under the licence you do, because you get an entirely new copy
Hi Wolfgang,
Hey, we live in a democracy - if you don't like what I'm saying, just
say so (and if you do, too).
Indeed we do, so here's my take on it.
When your initial email came through, I though 'oh bloody hell, the shit is
really going to hit the fan now !'. Why ? Because in a
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Sent: Tuesday, November 05, 2002 10:07 AM
Subject: Re: [ql-users] Software pirates in our midst?
Hi all,
I just wanted to point out something to the general QL world at
large: as you all know, SMSQ/E is being made
??? 5/11/2002 3:07:40 ??, ?/? Bill Waugh
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- Original Message -
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, November 05, 2002 10:07 AM
Subject: Re: [ql-users] Software pirates in our midst?
Hi all,
I just wanted to point out something
??? 5/11/2002 12:23:18 ??, ?/? Dave P
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On Tue, 5 Nov 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi all,
I just wanted to point out something to the general QL
world at
large: as you all know, SMSQ/E is being made available
publicly,
under a licence that was discussed at
??? 5/11/2002 12:23:18 ??, ?/? Dave P
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snip on Dave's email
After careful consideration and drawing on my own experience
on skirmishes on Ql-Users (everybody probably remembers
the huge misunderstanding between me and Richard Z. in
which I grossly misunderstood him
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