Sounds like the comments I've heard about Nextel/Sprint...
the sound of 'business getting done'...
Chuck Kelsey wrote:
Unfortunately, this is exactly what Comcast was hoping -- the
customer changed service. They don't want customers who keep making
service calls requiring repeated tech
Thank you Kevin. I understand and appreciate
the problem you describe.
However, I am not trying to download at 2 Meg;
indeed the VOIP app is very happy on a 44 K
dial-up with the other Internet provider.
There seems to be adequate bandwidth, as I
can load my cable connection with additional
Mike,
My reply was not in response to your packet loss, I was trying to
describe other effects that had been brought up in the discussion by
Paul. I'm not saying your provider isn't tampering with packets or IP's
destine for competitors VoIP servers. What I am saying is depending on
the
...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Paul Plack
Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2009 9:03 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Split site link via IP
Kevin, thanks for your insight. Comcast must cap speeds below what it
advertises intentionally, because even distant speed test
SMALL BIZ... cracks me up.
Nate WY0X
-Original Message-
From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Mike Naruta AA8K
Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 6:51 AM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Split site link
Message-
From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Mark
Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2009 7:01 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Split site link via IP
Thanks Nate.
I'm not running a node or anything as of yet
...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Don Kupferschmidt
Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2009 6:48 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Split site link via IP
For those who need to measure their upload / download speed of their ISP,
here are a couple of useful links to measure
: Thursday, March 12, 2009 6:30 PM
Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Split site link via IP
There's other things to look at... have you looked at your Comcast router
(in the admin menus) and seen what the received signal/noise ratio is at
your location, and what upstream power it's having to use
Ethercrash wrote:
My repeater group is considering building split-site 6m machine. As an
inter-site link, I was thinking of using some sort of VOIP arrangement
via the internet.
IMHO
Doug, KD8B, mentioned a critical point about
your VOIP not being interfered with.
Remember when
Mike,
I'm curious regarding latency issues, especially if using VoIP for
connections like IRLP or remote voice links. Did you experience them when
on satellite, or was it a non-issue in your experience?
And I assume your connections losses while on the bird were due to rain
fade or similar???
I am a Comcast VOIP customer, the service works good.
Comcast is a sleezy company, and I have had experiences
with their IP blocking and/or packet interruptions.
-- Original Message --
Received: Wed, 11 Mar 2009 09:36:45 AM PDT
From: Mike Naruta AA8K a...@comcast.net
Remember when
Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2009 12:56 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Split site link via IP
Mike,
I'm curious regarding latency issues, especially if using VoIP for
connections like IRLP or remote voice links. Did you experience them when
on satellite
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Split site link via IP
I am a Comcast VOIP customer, the service works good.
Comcast is a sleezy company, and I have had experiences
with their IP blocking and/or packet interruptions.
Unfortunately, this is exactly what Comcast was hoping -- the customer changed
service. They don't want customers who keep making service calls requiring
repeated tech support. These calls cost them money that they don't want to
spend.
I'll bet that they wasted no time in processing the
!
73,
Don, KD9PT
- Original Message -
From: Paul Plack
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2009 6:46 PM
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Split site link via IP
Your experience with Comcast VoIP may vary widely, depending on your location
and time
...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Nate Duehr
Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2009 6:45 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Split site link via IP
I've done IRLP over a couple of different types of satellite connections
(and as an official tech support volunteer, I must add
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2009 6:48 PM
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Split site link via IP
For those who need to measure their upload / download speed of their ISP,
here are a couple of useful links to measure it:
http://reviews.cnet.com
Hi Mark,
I was using Earthlink/Direc two-way satellite.
There is the inherent latency. If you are a gamer,
it might bother you. I didn't mind it.
My fade margin was on the low edge. At my
latitude, the angle is fairly low and there was
a tree at a distance that was partially obscuring.
I
Paul Plack wrote:
One of Comcast's independent techs told me their system runs wide-open
to the speed-test sites to ensure good results. I don't know if he was
being honest, but I never got the same speeds in normal use that I did
with the test sites!
As an engineer of a CATV Internet
with a round-trip time of 67 ms. Not too
shabby.
73,
Paul, AE4KR
- Original Message -
From: Kevin Custer
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2009 8:25 PM
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Split site link via IP
Paul Plack wrote:
One
Paul Plack wrote:
Kevin, thanks for your insight. Comcast must cap speeds below what it
advertises intentionally, because even distant speed test servers
would run higher speeds than what I could get to fellow Comcast users
in the same part of town.
WAN traffic is indeed limited so the
@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, March 09, 2009 10:36 AM
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Split site link via IP
Hi Brian.
The software you need is SvxLink.
It is FREE to download and has all the features you need, and a lot more.
In SvxLink you can use the remotetrx function to split RX's
In addition to what's already been mentioned, a pure linking box (no
ID's etc.) on the commerical side is the JPS NXU2
http://www.jps.com/page/view/89about $750 for each end last time I
priced them.
Chuck n0nhj
Ethercrash wrote:
My repeater group is considering building split-site 6m
Brian;
In general VOIP as an audio link is not very stable if you
do not control the bandwidth loading of the Link. There are
technologies like TDM over IP that have much less jitter and dropout
issues.. but it still is reliant on the IP link being stable and not
overloaded as well as
Order up two of the RLC DSP-404 controllers and you will have it linked via IP.
I am using one at the repeater site and another for a voted site and works
well.
Mike K7PFJ
- Original Message -
From: Ethercrash n4bwp...@charter.net
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Sent:
In the KISS mode, here is a simple solution that can be used for a trial. At
the receiver site, use a PL decoder to gate audio into a SKYPE port on the
computer at the receive site. Audio would only be present if the receive
signal had the proper tone present.
At the transmit site, use a
At 08:42 AM 3/9/2009, you wrote:
My repeater group is considering building split-site 6m machine. As
an inter-site link, I was thinking of using some sort of VOIP
arrangement via the internet. I'm curious if anyone has tried
something like this:
My idea is to use a point-to-point, private
Hi Brian.
The software you need is SvxLink.
It is FREE to download and has all the features you need, and a lot more.
In SvxLink you can use the remotetrx function to split RX's and TX's (yes
multiple!) between different QTH's. The built in voter can select the best
RX. Several codecs are
Brian, you've received lots of interesting suggestions. My only contribution
would be that in the configuration you originally proposed, (and many possible
combinations of the technology suggested by others,) you want the controller at
the transmitter end.
There's never a time you're legally
I suspect you could use this for your needs:
http://app-rpt.qrvc.com/
and a USB-equipped Linux capable system - doesn't need much horsepower since
you're not forced to additionally compress the audio.
I suggest using a small 'embedded' type Linux-running system, like the
Ubiquiti
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