hei keith,
our organization consists of musicians who want to take responsibility
for our energy use - we are interested in any technology that can
power our live sound needs sustainably. wvo biodiesel is a great idea
in general, but a logistical nightmare for our circumstances: sourcing
Hei Gavin
hei keith,
our organization consists of musicians who want to take responsibility
for our energy use - we are interested in any technology that can
power our live sound needs sustainably.
Yes I know that, otherwise I wouldn't have ventured an opinion.
wvo biodiesel is a great idea
hei keith,
thanks for feedback + links, i was introducing our idea to the rest of
the group as well.
i did read the links, which is why i ask for input about centrifuges
as none of those points are addressed in the video. if centrifuges
dont work well as you say, are they being dishonest?
Hei Gavin
hei keith,
thanks for feedback + links, i was introducing our idea to the rest of
the group as well.
i did read the links, which is why i ask for input about centrifuges
as none of those points are addressed in the video. if centrifuges
dont work well as you say, are they being
Hello Gavin
anybody familiar with this centrifuge method? any insight appreciated!
http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/video/2010/may/11/ethical-living-diy-big-society
/g.
He has a reason to use a centrifuge - he's mobile, he collects the
oil as he travels, there's no time to let it settle.
Hi Chip
Slow response, sorry.
Keith Addison wrote:
Keith Addison wrote:
I'm having a hard time finding WVO. I need 500 Gallons per month and
I'm tired of driving around and fighting for oil at every restaurant
within 10 miles. I've found other companies in other states that sell
Keith Addison wrote:
Keith Addison wrote:
I'm having a hard time finding WVO. I need 500 Gallons per month and
I'm tired of driving around and fighting for oil at every restaurant
within 10 miles. I've found other companies in other states that sell
and deliver larger quantities but
Hello Roger
Thanks for the reply.
A combination...My F250 Diesel, Oil Heat, My father's F250, and some for
the neighbor's house.
Four users then, averaging enough for three people each (who also use
too much).
I suppose the 500 Gallons is a winter number - maybe 300 gallons in the
summer to
Roger wrote:
I'm having a hard time finding WVO. I need 500 Gallons per month and
I'm tired of driving around and fighting for oil at every restaurant
within 10 miles. I've found other companies in other states that sell
and deliver larger quantities but nothing close to home. I'm just
I'm having a hard time finding WVO. I need 500 Gallons per month and
I'm tired of driving around and fighting for oil at every restaurant
within 10 miles. I've found other companies in other states that sell
and deliver larger quantities but nothing close to home. I'm just
outside of
Keith Addison wrote:
I'm having a hard time finding WVO. I need 500 Gallons per month and
I'm tired of driving around and fighting for oil at every restaurant
within 10 miles. I've found other companies in other states that sell
and deliver larger quantities but nothing close to home. I'm
Keith Addison wrote:
I'm having a hard time finding WVO. I need 500 Gallons per month and
I'm tired of driving around and fighting for oil at every restaurant
within 10 miles. I've found other companies in other states that sell
and deliver larger quantities but nothing close to home.
: Thursday, June 19, 2008 12:47 PM
To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] WVO in PA, USA
Keith Addison wrote:
I'm having a hard time finding WVO. I need 500 Gallons per month
and
I'm tired of driving around and fighting for oil at every
restaurant
within 10 miles. I've found
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Keith Addison wrote:
I'm having a hard time finding WVO. I need 500 Gallons per month
and
I'm tired of driving around and fighting for oil at every
A combination...My F250 Diesel, Oil Heat, My father's F250, and some for
the neighbor's house.
I suppose the 500 Gallons is a winter number - maybe 300 gallons in the
summer to support the lot of us. I go through about 250 gallons a month
myself (in the winter). That's only 1 tank per week
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Keith Addison wrote:
I'm having a hard time finding WVO. I need 500 Gallons per month
and
I'm tired of driving around and fighting
: Re: [Biofuel] WVO Sludge Disposal - Cross posted
try this. its written in terms of glycerine, but i think junk grease and
fryer slime would work as well.
http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_glycerin.html#burn
you could also make a huge pile of these logs and dump them a handful
try this. its written in terms of glycerine, but i think junk grease and fryer
slime would work as well.
http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_glycerin.html#burn
you could also make a huge pile of these logs and dump them a handful at a
time into the compost, also, further down-page is a
Hi Keith,
Regarding your last paragraph, I can confirm that here there is no or very
little WVO. Either they just keep using it and top it off every day or the
cooks are taking it home. I visited an instant noodle factory and there's no
WVO, they keep adding unless it really becomes really
a
Labelle Province Restaurant
Fritz
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From: Olivier Morf
To: sustainablelorgbiofuel@sustainablelists.org
Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2008 11:15 AM
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] WVO supplies on the wane?
Hi Keith,
Regarding your last paragraph, I can confirm
Hi Chandan, Pagandai and all
Dear Pannirselvam,
Thanks for the detailed response. I gather that there is good opportunity
to add to the experimentally established results on castor based biodiesel
and the blends that might work well. I'm right now exploring a tie-up with
one of the govt
Dear Chandan and all the list member
Even though I am in Brazil ,which export the meat very large , I
actualy live in the native place of south American Indians, even though I
also india from south India as you pointed out , Today the Festival
Pongal not only in Tamil nadu state ,
Dear Pannirselvam,
Thanks for the detailed response. I gather that there is good opportunity
to add to the experimentally established results on castor based biodiesel
and the blends that might work well. I'm right now exploring a tie-up with
one of the govt research labs and an agricultural
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To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org
Sent: Monday, January 07, 2008 10:34 AM
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] WVO in Diesel Generators
Hello Tom
Hello All,
On 9/25/06 Pagandai Pannirselvan wrote:
The small co generation of electrical energy based on the bio
diesel can
make possible the use of pure
Happy new year for all the list members
I am Pagandai Pannirselvam from Brazil.
Very glad that after some 2 years of my post about blended biofuel , we
have now come agian to make the debate. When I wrote about hydrated ethanol
is E 96 azeotropic mixture as correctly pointed out by
Pannirselvam,
Happy New Year to you from India. Good to see your mail after
a long time, but I'm quite confused by it.
I thought Keith only reported what YOU wrote earlier on 9/25/2006
(regarding mixing ~20% BD and 5-10% ethanol into (fresh/used) VO
to reduce viscosity).
Could you please
.
Best to You,
And to you Tom
Keith
Tom
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Hello Tom
Hello All
Hi Tom,
you could have achieved the low startload of havy motors with a Star Delta
switch.
Fritz
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From: Tom Thiel
To: sustainablelorgbiofuel@sustainablelists.org
Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2008 9:38 PM
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] WVO in Diesel Generators
) to run in a diesel motor?
Tom
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Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2008 8:52 PM
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] WVO in Diesel Generators
Seems to me like an engine running
Tom,
Thanks for the reply.
I'll pass on the info
Tom
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From: Fritz Friesinger [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: sustainablelorgbiofuel@sustainablelists.org
Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2008 9:39 PM
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] WVO in Diesel Generators
Hi Tom,
i have a 100KvA 600V Dieselgenerator with a 140 HP Mitsubishi Engine.The
consumption by staedy 30A
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Sent: Monday, January 07, 2008 10:34 AM
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] WVO in Diesel Generators
Hello Tom
Hello All,
On 9/25/06 Pagandai Pannirselvan wrote:
The small co generation of electrical energy based on the bio diesel can
Seems to me like an engine running an 8 hour shift would be ideal for
SVO -- you'd have to start it on biodiesel till it got up to operating
temperature, then just make sure the incoming SVO is as hot as you can
get it -- 180F or higher. The schemes to just thin SVO with biodiesel
and ethanol
Hi Tom,
i have a 100KvA 600V Dieselgenerator with a 140 HP Mitsubishi Engine.The
consumption by staedy 30A is a little less than 8 liters/hr.
I would not take the chance and run the Gen on straigt WVO or even a blend of
the same. The Genset has to perform staedy in a woodworkshop.A braekdown
Regarding starting motors in our off-grid woodshop: we treat 1
horsepower motors as intermittent-use, starting and stopping them at
will. Larger motors are paired with a 1 horsepower motor to start each
machine. After it is up to speed, the main motor is turned on. This
system reduces the
PM
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] WVO squeeze
I would really doubt a label on the barrel would deter dumpster
divers. The only down sides I could imagine are; that by claiming
ownership, you would be making yourself liable. For example if the oil
would happen to leak into the environment for any
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Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2007 7:04 PM
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] WVO squeeze
I would really doubt a label on the barrel would deter dumpster
divers. The only down sides I could imagine are; that by claiming
ownership, you would be making yourself liable. For example if the oil
would
I would really doubt a label on the barrel would deter dumpster
divers. The only down sides I could imagine are; that by claiming
ownership, you would be making yourself liable. For example if the oil
would happen to leak into the environment for any reason, you may be
held responsible for the
--- JAMES PHELPS [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Joe I re ran some bio with Diesel in it and it was
inert to the reaction and was intact afterward as
near as I could tell.
Jim
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To:
Thanks to Fox and James for the response.
Joe
fox mulder wrote:
--- JAMES PHELPS [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Joe I re ran some bio with Diesel in it and it was
inert to the reaction and was intact afterward as
near as I could tell.
Jim
- Original Message -
From: Joe
Joe I re ran some bio with Diesel in it and it was inert to the reaction and
was intact afterward as near as I could tell.
Jim
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Sent: Thursday,
Biodiesel is an excellent cleaner. Try putting some b100 on a rag and
then follow with hot soapy water.
The BD will remove the wax also though.
Joe
Derick Giorchino wrote:
Yup it's hard to remove and it gets sticker as time goes on. I know. I have
used the citrus cleaner and it cuts the WVO
Yup it's hard to remove and it gets sticker as time goes on. I know. I have
used the citrus cleaner and it cuts the WVO very well with no damage to the
paint but be aware there will be no wax ether.
Good luck: Derick.
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Subject: Re: [Biofuel] WVO
Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2006 16:50:56 -0400
Luke,
If your WVO was used to cook meat such as chicken, you will have
some
animal fat which may be causing the middle layer. It will still make
excellent warm weather fuel
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Sent: Friday, July 21, 2006 5:43 PM
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] WVO
Tom,
I heated to 170f as you suggested. It became transluent and then
congelled
again, this time in three layers, a bottom layer (about 5%) that looks
like
black solids, then a layer of something white (also
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Tom,
I heated to 170f as you suggested. It became transluent and then
congelled
again, this time in three layers, a bottom layer (about 5%) that looks
like
black solids
luck w the WVO
By the way, what do you get for a titration on it?
Tom
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From: WM LUKE MATHISEN [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org
Sent: Friday, July 21, 2006 5:43 PM
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] WVO
Tom,
I
Sent: Friday, July 21, 2006 5:43 PM
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] WVO
Tom,
I heated to 170f as you suggested. It became transluent and then
congelled
again, this time in three layers, a bottom layer (about 5%) that looks
like
black solids, then a layer of something white (also about 5
Message -
From: WM LUKE MATHISEN [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org
Sent: Friday, July 21, 2006 5:43 PM
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] WVO
Tom,
I heated to 170f as you suggested. It became transluent and then
congelled
again, this time in three layers, a bottom layer (about 5
?
Tom
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From: Joe Street [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org
Sent: Monday, July 24, 2006 8:49 AM
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] WVO
Very funny Tom! Designer exhausts! You should patent that idea. Recently
I was wondering if I could make biofuel
For me the white layer is non reacted saturated monoglicerides, diglicerides
and fat. I made a second step sterification and the layer did not formed
again.
It seems that more yield is get with a two stage process (using 60% and then
40% of methanol and soda) than a single step one.
That white
done!
:-)
Luke
From: Thomas Kelly [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] WVO
Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2006 21:33:35 -0400
Luke,
So chicken fat it is. Maybe.
Did you use bottom heat? as in a pot on the stove?
If so
PM
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] WVO
Tom,
I have a tank less hot water heater that I can easily adjust the temp from
100 to 176 F, I put the oil in a pete bottle, filled the sink with 176f
water and set the bottle in it. I checked it after a few minutes and it
was
in the process of turning
for sure if it is usable or not.
Regards,
Bob
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From: WM LUKE MATHISEN [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org
Sent: Friday, July 21, 2006 10:43 PM
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] WVO
Tom,
I heated to 170f as you suggested. It became transluent
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To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] WVO
Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2006 16:50:56 -0400
Luke,
If your WVO was used to cook meat such as chicken, you will have some
animal fat which may be causing the middle layer. It will still make
excellent warm weather fuel
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To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org
Sent: Friday, July 21, 2006 5:43 PM
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] WVO
Tom,
I heated to 170f as you suggested. It became transluent and then
congelled
again, this time in three layers, a bottom layer
I've found that if I leave it in the settling tank longer, it will
settle out even more. Smaller water droplets seem to take longer to sink
and separate, (or conglomerate with other droplets) when encased in
their oil surroundings. I'd use solar if I wanted to heat and retrieve
the oil from
Luke,
If your WVO was used to cook meat such as chicken, you will have some
animal fat which may be causing the middle layer. It will still make
excellent warm weather fuel.
Of course, it might be water.
Heat a small sample to get the water to drop out. Take some of the dried
WVO
Joe,
In Israel you will see the same, but with efficient solar panels
built together with an insulated storage. It is however an enormous
difference in efficiency. The black cisterns have a very low
efficiency and you can only collect some warm water at the end of
sunny days. The main
Zeke,
Solar panels was very common in California 100 years ago.
Was replaced by other hot water heaters in a successful
marketing campaign from the energy companies.
Hakan
At 20:21 27/04/2006, you wrote:
Yeah -- I think that part of it is that people are used to seeing
really ugly solar
Do you have any information on IR absorption of common black materials,
ie flat black paint types which are resonably good? I plan to do
something with it one day but would like to make something myself of
reasonable efficiency rather than buying a turnkey solution.
Joe
Hakan Falk wrote:
Howdy Joe, don't stop with IR, you want to absorb all wavelengths- there
is more energy available in the visible/UV than the IR. Any flat black
material will absorb all wavelengths (not counting high energy stuff
like gamma rays). what you need is a material which not only absorbs,
but also
Really? I was under the impression 65% of the incoming solar radiation
was IR and NIR. Well I was thinking of putting flat black paint on
copper pipes and having a sun tracking parabolic mirror beneath them. I
was just wondering if anyone had any data on flat black paint types as
the last
I do have some info on absorbance/emittance of various media, but not
easily at hand. I'll try to look it up.
What I recall is that flat black paint is about 80% absorbance, and
also 80% emittance. Not sure about the difference between different
types of black paint. The selective surfaces
Getting it really cold means removing heat. Whether you remove heat or
add heat it takes time and energy. Adding heat would be a more
efficient process unless you live in the arctic and can let good old
mother nature do the work for you. BTW someone recently passed me a
manual written by a
Joe,
Electricity more efficient for heating? A lot of the electricity
production is using oil, with around 35% efficiency to make the
electricity. Heating with oil have 70 to 85% efficiency in burners. I
would not give anything for this manual, the author lacks knowledge
and understanding. A
Yes but the electrical energy is converted to heat with practically
100% eff regardless of it's source of generation which is what I
meant. You are right of course, electrical generation is not without
it's environmental impact, even hydro. But what of your emissions from
burning??
J
Hakan
Joe,
Making electricity with 35% efficiency and the heat with 90+%
efficiency, make a total of 32% efficiency, compared with 70 to 85%
efficiency by heating directly with oil. This make the oil 2 - 2.5
times more efficient. Pollution has a direct relation to the
efficiency. When they get the
Yes you are correct Hakan and I have to remember that in other places
electricity is generated in much poorer ways than it is here in
Canada. Most of our electricity comes from hydroelectric and nuclear
with a small fraction from other types of generation. However even
with your 70 -85%
Joe,
You will be surprised, I come from Sweden and its hydro is comparable
to Canada. The country that produces most electricity from hydro in
percent of energy production, is Brazil, which have around 38% of its
electricity from hydro. I was told that when I was there. Nuclear
give a large
If you are running a reactor from solar, why not use solar thermal?
That will be much less costly than PV running resistance heating, and
can easily achieve the temperatures required.
On 4/27/06, Joe Street [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Yes you are correct Hakan and I have to remember that in other
Hi Ryan,
I live about 70 miles from Kaydon Filtration. I talked with them this
morning and they told me that this filter will not work on vegetable oil.
Sorry. Good thought though.
Bill Clark
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Sent:
Maybe but I think I can keep the energy stored for longer and use it
more conveniently and for more purposes by storing it in batteries than
in a hot water tank.
Joe
Zeke Yewdall wrote:
If you are running a reactor from solar, why not use solar thermal?
That will be much less costly than
Only 25% of electricity generation in Ontario is derived from coal
J
Hakan Falk wrote:
Joe,
You will be surprised, I come from Sweden and its hydro is comparable
to Canada. The country that produces most electricity from hydro in
percent of energy production, is Brazil, which have
I wouldn't be too sure about that.
500 gallon water tank weighs about 4,000lbs, and can store
200,000Btu's of heat (changing temperature from 185F to 135F. This is
about 58kWh of thermal energy.
4,000lbs of lead acid batteries will also store about 56kWh with an
80% DOD. But they will cost
Joe,
That sounds as I expected, it is probably larger than hydro and
around the same as nuclear.
Sorry that I involved house heating in this, instead of sticking only
to electricity, but in Sweden it is the main heating fuel.
Hakan
At 19:24 27/04/2006, you wrote:
Only 25% of electricity
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Subject: Re: [Biofuel] WVO-Water Separation: coalescer media
Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2006 11:36:44 -0500
Hi Ryan,
I live about 70 miles from Kaydon Filtration. I talked with them this
morning and they told me that this filter will not work on vegetable oil.
Sorry. Good thought though.
Bill Clark
Zeke,
Solar thermal hot water is the cheapest and most efficient solar use,
I do not understand that the use is so low. This except Israel, where
you can see solar for hot water on almost every house. . Normal
thermal solar panels have 35-40% efficiency. A very good and cost
effective way to
Yeah -- I think that part of it is that people are used to seeing
really ugly solar thermal installations put in during the 80's, and
not much has been installed here since then. And then they think that
solar thermal is old technology that has been superceded by PV. Not
knowing the different
Electricity is more useful to me.
J
Zeke Yewdall wrote:
I wouldn't be too sure about that.
500 gallon water tank weighs about 4,000lbs, and can store
200,000Btu's of heat (changing temperature from 185F to 135F. This is
about 58kWh of thermal energy.
4,000lbs of lead acid batteries
I'm interested in what your processor uses electricity for? Seems
like it would worth a little bit of hassle to use heat exchangers
instead of electric elements, for such a large cost savings --
somewhere around a quarter the cost or less. Of course the
pumps/stirrers/etc have to be electrically
Hi Hakan;
I don't think hydroelectric is less than coal in Canada. According to
this wiki:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hydroelectricity
Canada derives 70% of its electricity needs from hydroelectric
generation and is the world's largest producer. Quebec alone produces
over 30 GW from hydro.
A fair bit of energy goes into creating the vacuum, and less into
heating as a result. Critics will no doubt point out that there are
significant losses in creating the vacuum but for me it is useful to
have finished dry useable fuel in a little over 24 hours and time is
worth something too
Hakan Falk wrote:
Zeke,
Solar thermal hot water is the cheapest and most efficient solar use,
I do not understand that the use is so low. This except Israel, where
you can see solar for hot water on almost every house. .
snip
Ever been to Mexico?
Joe
Well, if you're going to bring running your lights and house into
it :) I was talking just about drying fuel.
and I didn't think about the vacuum pump for dewatering -- I was
thinking only of the circulation pumps.
Hopefully my all electric house will have both solar thermal (to
replace
Joe,
I must have got my numbers wrong, but wikipedia probably also. If 25%
is from coal and 70% from hydro Only 5% for others???
I have seen Brazil, China, Norway, Sweden, Austria and some more, but
I have not seen Canada or any large ones in US. In number of
generators and capacity, it
Not quite what you were looking for, but here's the breakdown for the
different US states. Some of them are upwards of 70% hydro (in WA and
ID, it's common to have all electric houses, because until recently
residential rates were below 4 cents/kWh, and industrial was less than
2 cents.
Joe,
Yes, but Mexico it is a bit larger and more people than Israel and in
total they do not have the same density, but last time was around 15
years ago and Israel the last time was around 6 years ago, China 5
years and Brazil last time was only 2 years ago. Time goes very fast.
Still, I
thats what i meant when i said the old folks did it , grandma frieburg
never had a freezer, they left buckets of apple beer on the porch in the
winter.
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From: Joe Street
To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org
Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2006 8:16 AM
Subject: Re: [Biofuel
never had a freezer, they left buckets of apple beer on the porch in the
winter.
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From: Joe Street
To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org
Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2006 8:16 AM
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] WVO-Water Separation: coalescer media
Getting it really cold means
Almost every house and building has a big black cistern on the roof.
The are everywhere you look.
Joe
Hakan Falk wrote:
Joe,
Yes, but Mexico it is a bit larger and more people than Israel and in
total they do not have the same density, but last time was around 15
years ago and Israel
Anyone tried using solar thermal hot water to heat feedstock for the
reaction? I've toyed with the idea (very, very hot sunny where I live)
of just looping fifty yards of old black hose on the garage roof,
connecting it to coiled copper inside the mixing tank, and circulating
it slowly with a
what about applejack style dewatering? get it REALLY cold so the oil
solidifies, or the water freezes, whichever comes first and screen it out?
thats how the old folks used to make apple whiskey for hard cider when my
grandma was a kid.
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From: Ryan Pope [EMAIL
That could cetainly work it a Wisconsin winter...the cold is free!
Ryan
From: Jason Katie [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org
To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] WVO-Water Separation: coalescer media
Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2006 16:54:01 -0500
what about
...I don't much
care for the gentleman. Sod being polite about it, I wouldn't cross
the street to piss in his mouth if his teeth were on fire. Ahh, now I
feel all better. :-)
Best
Keith
wow, that was unexpected... not unwarranted i admit, but definitely
unexpected.
:-)
Midori's outside
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Sent: Friday, April 21, 2006 1:49 AM
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] WVO sources and other stuff
...I don't much
care for the gentleman. Sod being polite about it, I wouldn't cross
the street to piss in his mouth if his teeth were on fire. Ahh, now I
feel all better. :-)
Best
Keith
Hi Greg
After being turned away by several Asian restaurants to collect
their oil, I tried a different tact. I contacted some of the people
that collect the stuff and process it. There were a couple of
interesting things I found out.
The most telling thing I found is just how arrogant some of
Greg,
If you have competing Waste oil fellows out there, then you can worm in
by offering them to take all the oil for free. If not then buy it for
5cents a gallon. You must be ready to place your drums outside and show
them you are in the business or the big guys will scam you out as fast
as
Here in Canada there are apparently regulations now in place that prohibit
animal waste going into livestock feed because of the mad cow situation.
Here on the Left Coast, I have noticed several waste management/rendering
companies becoming pretty big biodiesel producers. While I feel reticent
...I don't much
care for the gentleman. Sod being polite about it, I wouldn't cross
the street to piss in his mouth if his teeth were on fire. Ahh, now I
feel all better. :-)
Best
Keith
wow, that was unexpected... not unwarranted i admit, but definitely
unexpected.
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