Re: [OSM-talk-be] Hi all

2010-01-06 Thread Sebastiaan Lampo
Hi Kenny, nice to see you mapping around. I've been a bit idle recently, due to an overload of work in dayjob. I have no particular interest in mapping landuse myself, so I would welcome any bulk import that is allowed. I would love to hear if you make any progress. Greetings good luck,

Re: [OSM-talk-be] Hi all

2010-01-06 Thread Ben Laenen
Kenny Knecht wrote: One that is certainly feasable is the european Corine Land cover 2000: that gives information about land use. on the website http://www.eea.europa.eu/themes/landuse/clc-download I read that *The information in under copyright of EEA and in the public domai* n... Which is

Re: [OSM-talk-be] Hi all

2010-01-06 Thread Lennard
but I think the NGI won't even consider doing that. In the import It's certainly worth it to ask and explore this, before we turn all our attention to CLC2000. I also believe we should explore the Freedom of Information acts more. Especially the Federal Decree has some interesting sections on

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Copyright Assignment

2010-01-06 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, Simon Ward wrote: On Wed, Jan 06, 2010 at 02:44:53AM +0100, Frederik Ramm wrote: Unless you're willing sign something that says I agree that OSMF will make two attempts to contact me at my registered e-mail address with information on how to vote on an upcoming license change

[OSM-legal-talk] European Union Inspire Directive

2010-01-06 Thread Erik Johansson
Is there someone who know more about the Inspire EU directive for Geodata from 2007, and can highlight things that are important for Openstreetmap? They are working on the implementation here in Sweden, it would be of great help to get any input. The only thing, I've found, that is interesting

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] European Union Inspire Directive

2010-01-06 Thread Iván Sánchez Ortega
El Jueves, 7 de Enero de 2010, Erik Johansson escribió: Is there someone who know more about the Inspire EU directive for Geodata from 2007, and can highlight things that are important for Openstreetmap? They are working on the implementation here in Sweden, it would be of great help to get

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] European Union Inspire Directive

2010-01-06 Thread Katleen Janssen
Dear Erik, The INSPIRE directive addresses first and foremost the sharing of spatial data between public authorities, both from a technical point of view and from an organisational point of view. On a second level, it also addresses public access to network services. It is important for

Re: [OSM-talk] Public notary (Map feature POI proposal)

2010-01-06 Thread Mike Harris
In England the work of what our colonial brothers and sisters on the paranoid side of the Atlantic call a 'public notary' is one of the things done by a 'solicitor' - whereas over there a 'solicitor' is more likely to be working in the less salubrious parts of town and may need the services of

Re: [OSM-talk] Vertical ways (staircase)

2010-01-06 Thread Stéphane Brunner
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello, In Lausanne I have similar problems with public external lift ! http://maps.google.fr/maps?q=Lausanneie=UTF8hq=hnear=Lausanne,+Vaud,+Suissell=46.521806,6.623316spn=0.000784,0.002064t=hz=20 CU Stéphane Ture Pålsson a écrit : How should I

Re: [OSM-talk] Vertical ways (staircase)

2010-01-06 Thread Jean-Marc Liotier
2010/1/5 Lester Caine les...@lsces.co.uk mailto:les...@lsces.co.uk A structure with 2 nodes one above the other would be necessary for things like this: http://www.schmickler-metallbau.de/images/ref/WBH/Niederehe_Leiter.jpg I believe that one node is sufficient. This node must have no

Re: [OSM-talk] Vertical ways (staircase)

2010-01-06 Thread Jean-Marc Liotier
Jean-Marc Liotier wrote: way (level=0) --- node (highway=ladder) --- way (level=1) Ooops - wrong tag. That should have been : way (layer=0) --- node (highway=ladder) --- way (layer=1) ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org

Re: [OSM-talk] Sourcing street names - what's the policy, and why?

2010-01-06 Thread Aun Johnsen
But I ask if it is valid for OSM or not, I know SCO vs * was extreme, but that doesn't mean it is valid for us. Can you point on some similarities in evidence, cercumstances, factors that can make this a valid case? If not it is the same as Larry Flynt vs America or most lawsuits. On Wed, Jan 6,

Re: [OSM-talk] Sourcing street names - what's the policy, and why?

2010-01-06 Thread John Smith
2010/1/6 Aun Johnsen li...@gimnechiske.org: But I ask if it is valid for OSM or not, I know SCO vs * was extreme, but that doesn't mean it is valid for us. Can you point on some similarities in evidence, cercumstances, factors that can make this a valid case? If not it is the same as Larry

[OSM-talk] buffer overflow with osm2pgsql

2010-01-06 Thread janes huff
Hi, I tried like this http://blog.geoserver.org/2009/01/30/geoserver-and-openstreetmap/ to import osm-data into Postgresql. I used EPSG 25833 (but I also tried 900913). Same with ja...@dellmo3:/usr/share/osm2pgsql$ osm2pgsql -s -C 2000 -E 25833 -U janes -W -d gis planet.osm I run Postgresql

Re: [OSM-talk] buffer overflow with osm2pgsql

2010-01-06 Thread Andy Allan
On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 11:15 AM, janes huff h...@radinformix.de wrote: Hi, I tried like this http://blog.geoserver.org/2009/01/30/geoserver-and-openstreetmap/ to import osm-data into Postgresql. I used EPSG 25833 (but I also tried 900913). Same with ja...@dellmo3:/usr/share/osm2pgsql$

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Copyright Assignment

2010-01-06 Thread Rob Myers
On Wed, 6 Jan 2010 07:06:42 +, Simon Ward si...@bleah.co.uk wrote: On Wed, Jan 06, 2010 at 02:44:53AM +0100, Frederik Ramm wrote: Oh yes it does, because if someone isn't active any more it will become harder and harder to get an opinion out of him. Someone who is not active any more

Re: [OSM-talk] Sourcing street names - what's the policy, and why?

2010-01-06 Thread Aun Johnsen
Ok, Now I got you, basically anybody that might be able to claim to be copyright holder of any data we put into the database might be able to open a lawsuit against us to exhaust us out of business, not necessary to win the case. With the list of potential sources of information that can be claimd

[OSM-talk] Edit war on Key:religion - Pastafarians

2010-01-06 Thread Aun Johnsen
I have seen tendences to an edit war on Key:religion [1] with a possible spread to Key:denomination [2]. No matter if Pastafarianism is a legimit religion or not, this edit war will not benefit anybody. I have added a section on Talk:Key:religion where those oposing the Pastafarians being

Re: [OSM-talk] Sourcing street names - what's the policy, and why?

2010-01-06 Thread Anthony
On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 4:40 AM, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.comwrote: I was claiming it's possible to launch a friverlous lawsuit with no basis and keep it going on for years and effectively bankrupt the competition in the process. OSMF is located in the UK, right? Doesn't the UK have

Re: [OSM-talk] Edit war on Key:religion - Pastafarians

2010-01-06 Thread Greg Troxel
In other words, stop the edit war, discuss pros and cons on the talk page, and be open to include more rather than remove. If it is concluded as not a religion than find alternative tagging. [1] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:religion [2]

Re: [OSM-talk] Public notary (Map feature POI proposal)

2010-01-06 Thread Valent Turkovic
office=lawyer should definitely exist if it doesn't exist it should be added, any reason not to add this feature? On Tue, Jan 5, 2010 at 6:42 PM, Pieren pier...@gmail.com wrote: I suggested some time ago to use a new general key for such things (when it's not really an amenity, a shop or a

Re: [OSM-talk] Public notary (Map feature POI proposal)

2010-01-06 Thread Valent Turkovic
I like the idea of office=laywer, office=notary maybe we need this, no? On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 7:22 AM, Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 4:42 AM, Pieren pier...@gmail.com wrote: I suggested some time ago to use a new general key for such things (when it's not

Re: [OSM-talk] Public notary (Map feature POI proposal)

2010-01-06 Thread Valent Turkovic
On Tue, Jan 5, 2010 at 6:21 PM, Ulf Lamping ulf.lamp...@googlemail.com wrote: Am 05.01.2010 17:41, schrieb Valent Turkovic: I have found that only Turks have public notary as mapping feature (amenity=notary) http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tr:Map_Features Do you think we should make this

Re: [OSM-talk] Edit war on Key:religion - Pastafarians

2010-01-06 Thread Frederik Ramm
Greg, Greg Troxel wrote: and (more or less) the community views it as such as evidenced by holding services of some kind with some attendance. This latter part is necessary to exclude Joe putting up a church of Joe in his front yard; the town would then say joe is a nutcase, as opposed to

Re: [OSM-talk] Public notary (Map feature POI proposal)

2010-01-06 Thread Ulf Lamping
Am 06.01.2010 15:41, schrieb Valent Turkovic: On Tue, Jan 5, 2010 at 6:21 PM, Ulf Lampingulf.lamp...@googlemail.com wrote: I'm not against amenity=notary, but it really has to be used more often ... I didn't use it BECAUSE it is not listed as legal POI on OSM wiki. Am I doing it wrong? I

Re: [OSM-talk] Host free ortophotos to be used on OSM

2010-01-06 Thread Ian Dees
On Tue, Jan 5, 2010 at 7:56 PM, enqd e...@ymail.com wrote: Hi, I'm newbie on OSM and as I can see we have only Yahoo imagery as base to map some cities on Brasil (only some bigger ones) Recently I read on wiki that a service called nearmaps host maps to be used on OSM. I know a service on

[OSM-talk] Site www.freietonne.de spamming in OSM ?

2010-01-06 Thread Pieren
Looking the history of this node:: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/node/444087845/history it seems that a website www.freietonne.de is sending all comments about a marina into OSM changesets. Could some Germans contact the www.freietonne.de site to stop this ? Pieren

Re: [OSM-talk] Site www.freietonne.de spamming in OSM ?

2010-01-06 Thread Tom Hughes
On 06/01/10 15:46, Pieren wrote: Looking the history of this node:: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/node/444087845/history it seems that a website www.freietonne.de is sending all comments about a marina into OSM changesets. Could some Germans contact the www.freietonne.de site to stop

Re: [OSM-talk] Site www.freietonne.de spamming in OSM ?

2010-01-06 Thread Pieren
On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 5:27 PM, Tom Hughes t...@compton.nu wrote: I'm wondering if they are mirroring their database into OSM or something and spam in there database is infecting us? Yes. This particular node and its 104 versions has a tag called ft_link pointing to their marina object

Re: [OSM-talk] Host free ortophotos to be used on OSM

2010-01-06 Thread Aun Johnsen
On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 3:28 PM, Ian Dees ian.d...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Jan 5, 2010 at 7:56 PM, enqd e...@ymail.com wrote: Hi, I'm newbie on OSM and as I can see we have only Yahoo imagery as base to map some cities on Brasil (only some bigger ones) Recently I read on  wiki that a service

Re: [OSM-talk] Host free ortophotos to be used on OSM

2010-01-06 Thread enqd
Hi, I'm really happy that people want to host it. Answering questions: I'm newbie, I don't know how things works, I just would like to see the images able to be used on Potlatch, something like what Nearmaps did. Ian Dees: I didn't find any alternate host. All messages about host the images are on

Re: [OSM-talk] Site www.freietonne.de spamming in OSM ?

2010-01-06 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, Pieren wrote: Yes. This particular node and its 104 versions has a tag called ft_link pointing to their marina object (Position bearbeiten (FT-ID: 7982 | OSM-ID: 444087845 H): http://www.freietonne.de/index.php?site=38editgps=7982 I have already alerted the guy who's running the FT

Re: [OSM-talk] Edit war on Key:religion - Pastafarians

2010-01-06 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2010/1/6 Greg Troxel g...@ir.bbn.com We should remember that the purpose of maps is to represent reality to map users, not to make political points. says who? Maps have always and in all ages been means of politics... ;-) cheers, Martin ___ talk

Re: [OSM-talk] Host free ortophotos to be used on OSM

2010-01-06 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2010/1/6 enqd e...@ymail.com Hi, I'm really happy that people want to host it. Answering questions: I'm newbie, I don't know how things works, I just would like to see the images able to be used on Potlatch, something like what Nearmaps did. just to be sure (as you're a newby): under what

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM rewriting history : France is now part of Germany !

2010-01-06 Thread Pieren
Finally, I got it. It's not a rendering issue but huge polygon showing the German Yahoo hi-res imagery : http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/44173524 linked with other similar boxes by a multipolygon relation named Germany as outers: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/relation/371423 I will

Re: [OSM-talk] Cycleways wiki doc enhanced

2010-01-06 Thread Roy Wallace
2010/1/6 Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com: Just a thought - I haven't thought this through - could relation be used to form a close relationship between a road and a track? Sorry if this has been mentioned before. See http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Relations#Proposed_uses_of_Relations

Re: [OSM-talk] Public notary (Map feature POI proposal)

2010-01-06 Thread Roy Wallace
On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 1:30 AM, Ulf Lamping ulf.lamp...@googlemail.com wrote: Am 06.01.2010 15:41, schrieb Valent Turkovic: ... I didn't understand that people just use keys that they want no matter it there aren't listed in OSM features list on Wiki... ... If there's no such thing in the

Re: [OSM-talk] Host free ortophotos to be used on OSM

2010-01-06 Thread enqd
Hi Martin, I don't know the specific license, but the email I received said: Can be used for any purpose, need only cite the source. 2010/1/6 Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com: 2010/1/6 enqd e...@ymail.com Hi, I'm really happy that people want to host it. Answering questions: I'm

Re: [OSM-talk] Host free ortophotos to be used on OSM

2010-01-06 Thread Arlindo Pereira
On an email asking that they said: (roughly translation) The content in our portal is public domain. However their utilization in other portals or publications is conditioned to citing the source, when utilizing our data. It is possible to reproduce the graphs, art and images that are together,

Re: [OSM-talk] Host free ortophotos to be used on OSM

2010-01-06 Thread Aun Johnsen
I think this have been stated 3 or 4 times in this thread already, that this data is PD. On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 8:31 PM, Arlindo Pereira openstreet...@arlindopereira.com wrote: On an email asking that they said: (roughly translation) The content in our portal is public domain. However their

Re: [OSM-talk] Host free ortophotos to be used on OSM

2010-01-06 Thread Anthony
On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 1:38 PM, enqd e...@ymail.com wrote: Hi, I'm really happy that people want to host it. Answering questions: I'm newbie, I don't know how things works, I just would like to see the images able to be used on Potlatch, something like what Nearmaps did. If you can't find

Re: [OSM-talk] Host free ortophotos to be used on OSM

2010-01-06 Thread enqd
Hi Anthony, I follow Openaerialmap, but as you said I don't know when the service will be up. I'll wait an answer from Ian Dees to see if he will host it, so maybe when OAM be running we can transfer the data to them. 2010/1/6 Anthony o...@inbox.org: On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 1:38 PM, enqd

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Copyright Assignment

2010-01-06 Thread Simon Ward
On Wed, Jan 06, 2010 at 06:49:37AM -0500, Rob Myers wrote: Unless that is the only way of ensuring that everyone continues to have the advantage of effectively all rights to the data and that organisation is OSM. ;-) Well, yes, so why isn’t OSM just going PD (or near equivalent)? :) (Yes, I

[OSM-talk] CommonMap, announcement - Incorporation Vote 16 January

2010-01-06 Thread morb . gis
Hello everyone, If you are a Queenslander and want to see the CommonMap objectives[1] brought to life, please attend an initiation meeting at 7pm on Saturday 16th January at the Samford Valley Hotel. This event will be held in conjunction with the OpenStreetMap Samford Mapping Party[2].

Re: [OSM-talk] Host free ortophotos to be used on OSM

2010-01-06 Thread Aun Johnsen
It should be a good carrot for OAM to know that we are talking about 5 Brazillian states complete, if I remember right, the states of Santa Catarina, São Paulo, Rio de Janeiro, Minas Gerais and Goias. Too bad my state of Espírito Santo isn't covered. On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 10:06 PM, enqd

Re: [OSM-talk] Host free ortophotos to be used on OSM

2010-01-06 Thread Ian Dees
On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 4:06 PM, enqd e...@ymail.com wrote: Hi Anthony, I follow Openaerialmap, but as you said I don't know when the service will be up. I'll wait an answer from Ian Dees to see if he will host it, so maybe when OAM be running we can transfer the data to them. Can you let me

[OSM-talk] Fwd: Host free ortophotos to be used on OSM

2010-01-06 Thread Aun Johnsen
On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 10:48 PM, Ian Dees ian.d...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 4:06 PM, enqd e...@ymail.com wrote: Hi Anthony, I follow Openaerialmap, but as you said I don't know when the service will be up. I'll wait an answer from Ian Dees to see if he will host it, so maybe

Re: [OSM-talk] Sourcing street names - what's the policy, and why?

2010-01-06 Thread Steve Bennett
On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 12:42 AM, Anthony o...@inbox.org wrote: If not, the first step in avoiding such a lawsuit would be to reincorporate in another state with sane laws. FFS. Sane laws? Think a little before you post, please. Steve ___ talk

Re: [OSM-talk] Sourcing street names - what's the policy, and why?

2010-01-06 Thread John Smith
2010/1/6 Anthony o...@inbox.org: On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 4:40 AM, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote: I was claiming it's possible to launch a friverlous lawsuit with no basis and keep it going on for years and effectively bankrupt the competition in the process. OSMF is located in

Re: [OSM-talk] Fwd: Host free ortophotos to be used on OSM

2010-01-06 Thread enqd
Thanks Aun for explaining, Ian: any idea when we will be able to see the images? It's an easy process or take time? Any progress tell us. Thanks. 2010/1/6 Aun Johnsen li...@gimnechiske.org: On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 10:48 PM, Ian Dees ian.d...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 4:06 PM, enqd

Re: [OSM-talk] Sourcing street names - what's the policy, and why?

2010-01-06 Thread Aun Johnsen
On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 11:15 PM, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote: 2010/1/6 Aun Johnsen li...@gimnechiske.org: We must find a procedure to avoid such lawsuits. i.e. show us where some community members have copied you and we remove the information from your sources kind of response

Re: [OSM-talk] Sourcing street names - what's the policy, and why?

2010-01-06 Thread John Smith
2010/1/7 Aun Johnsen li...@gimnechiske.org: On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 11:15 PM, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote: 2010/1/6 Aun Johnsen li...@gimnechiske.org: We must find a procedure to avoid such lawsuits. i.e. show us where some community members have copied you and we remove the

[OSM-talk] Rendering subway entrances

2010-01-06 Thread Erik Johansson
How would one write a mapnik/osm2pgsql ruleset to render subway entrances at a certain zoom level? Example data with relations: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/relation/359558 -- /emj ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org

Re: [OSM-talk] Rendering subway entrances

2010-01-06 Thread John Smith
2010/1/7 Erik Johansson erjo...@gmail.com: How would one write a mapnik/osm2pgsql ruleset to render subway entrances at a certain zoom level? Image of stairs going down? ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org

[OSM-talk] dirty revert howto

2010-01-06 Thread Jozef Riha
hello list, can anyone please tell me how to do a dirty revert? unfortunately by the date i received a reply from dwg another user changed the affected nodes (originally an import from google api). thank you, joe ___ talk mailing list

[OSM-talk-nl] quadrocopter bedienen via IPhone

2010-01-06 Thread bas de Lange
Beste Talk'ers, Kwam dit net op Tweakers.net tegen: http://tweakers.net/nieuws/64718/ces-parrot-laat-minihelikopter-via-iphone-bedienen.html -- Met vriendelijke groet, Bas de Lange -- Best regards, Bas de Lange http://www.basdelange.com ___

[OSM-talk-nl] cafetaria

2010-01-06 Thread Andre Engels
Al enige tijd probeer ik voor restaurants en fast food zaken ook een 'cuisine'-tag aan te geven. Mijn vraag is, wat doen we met cafetaria's als cuisine? http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:cuisine stelt hier friture voor, maar ik denk dat de gemiddelde Nederlander die tag niet zal begrijpen. Op

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] cafetaria

2010-01-06 Thread Lennard
Andre Engels wrote: cafetaria tegen - volgens mij min of meer hetzelfde. Ik zou graag zien dat we hier één waarde voor konden afspreken - maar welke dan? Ik praat puur voor mezelf: ik heb eerder een paar keer cuisine=dutch_snackbar gebruikt, met het idee dat dat uniek genoeg is om later

Re: [talk-au] Copyright questions

2010-01-06 Thread Richard Colless
Steve Bennett wrote: Interesting. What strikes me about the street names thing is that in general, there's actually no way to prove it, other than by the person's own admission. Whereas with copyright breach in general, you can show a similarity between two expressions of an idea. But

Re: [talk-au] Error with Grose Rd Faulconbridge NSW

2010-01-06 Thread Richard Colless
John Smith wrote: 2010/1/5 Richard Colless fire...@ar.com.au: I was testing the Garmin's route instructions on some familiar roads today. Normally it says "SW on Northern Road to Roundabout", followed by "2nd exit on roundabout" or similar. but one part came out as ""SW on

Re: [talk-au] Copyright questions

2010-01-06 Thread David Murn
One that amuses me often, is between Canberra and Batemans Bay. Theres a small rural street which is shown as 'Black Sally Lane' on both google, whereis and my Navman GPS, however OSM shows the name printed on the street sign, which is 'Black Sallee Lane'. David On Tue, 2010-01-05 at 23:41

Re: [talk-au] Error with Grose Rd Faulconbridge NSW

2010-01-06 Thread John Smith
2010/1/6 Richard Colless fire...@ar.com.au: The roundabout was named as The Northern Road in the OSM data - the same name as the road to the north and south of it. I meant in reality, most roundabouts aren't named, although some are. ___ Talk-au

Re: [talk-au] Copyright questions

2010-01-06 Thread John Smith
2010/1/6 Richard Colless fire...@ar.com.au: You're right, Steve, there is no way to prove it. What we need to be sure of is that our own actions are ethical, and in the spirit of OSM. I do use a street directory, along with some online sources, to verify street names, or to check spelling. I

Re: [talk-au] Error with Grose Rd Faulconbridge NSW

2010-01-06 Thread Richard Colless
John Smith wrote: 2010/1/6 Richard Colless fire...@ar.com.au: The roundabout was named as "The Northern Road" in the OSM data - the same name as the road to the north and south of it. I meant in reality, most roundabouts aren't named, although some are. It's not

Re: [talk-au] Copyright questions

2010-01-06 Thread Steve Bennett
On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 9:15 PM, Richard Colless fire...@ar.com.au wrote: You're right, Steve, there is no way to prove it. What we need to be sure of is that our own actions are ethical, and in the spirit of OSM. I *do*use a street directory, along with some online sources, to verify street

[talk-au] Default access restrictions

2010-01-06 Thread Steve Bennett
I've created an entry on the default access restrictions wiki page: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/OSM_tags_for_routing/Access-Restrictions#Australia Now we can debate each line: === Motorway=== I left this as default. In Australia, some freeways allow bikes and farm machinery, some don't.

Re: [talk-au] Default access restrictions

2010-01-06 Thread James Andrewartha
2010/1/6 Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com: I've created an entry on the default access restrictions wiki page: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/OSM_tags_for_routing/Access-Restrictions#Australia Now we can debate each line: ===Trunk=== Default. Ok? There are some trunk roads in Perth

Re: [talk-au] Copyright questions

2010-01-06 Thread John Henderson
David Murn wrote: One that amuses me often, is between Canberra and Batemans Bay. Theres a small rural street which is shown as 'Black Sally Lane' on both google, whereis and my Navman GPS, however OSM shows the name printed on the street sign, which is 'Black Sallee Lane'. Both are accepted

Re: [talk-au] Default access restrictions

2010-01-06 Thread Liz
On Wed, 6 Jan 2010, Steve Bennett wrote: ===Footway== Now, bicycles aren't allowed on footpaths - ie, the path that runs along the side of the road. But they're generally allowed on most other paths, like into or through parks, around sports grounds etc. So I propose foot=designated

Re: [talk-au] Default access restrictions

2010-01-06 Thread Roy Wallace
On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 10:08 PM, Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com wrote: ===Cycleway=== I would say shared use paths vastly outnumber bike-only paths, so I propose bicycle=designated foot=designated. Horse...no? Paths that allow horses, like rail trails, aren't too rare, but can be catered

[talk-au] Maposmatic Maps

2010-01-06 Thread darylr
Hi, Great maps ! Although the Armidale map shows street names and the Carnarvon one doesn't regards Darylr ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au

Re: [talk-au] Default access restrictions

2010-01-06 Thread Steve Bennett
On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 1:17 AM, James Andrewartha tr...@student.uwa.edu.auwrote: ===Bridleway=== I would have said we don't have these, except I think I found one on the outskirts of the eastern suburbs of Melbourne. With the tiny bit of traffic they must receive, I can't imagine that

Re: [talk-au] Maposmatic Maps

2010-01-06 Thread John Smith
2010/1/7 dar...@tpg.com.au: Hi, Great maps !  Although the Armidale map shows street names and the Carnarvon one doesn't Carnarvon was only mapped from imagery, and I don't think anyone has attempted to contact the local council to get names, or driven through the town to obtain them

Re: [talk-au] Default access restrictions

2010-01-06 Thread Stephen Hope
2010/1/7 Roy Wallace waldo000...@gmail.com: On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 10:08 PM, Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com wrote: ===Footway== Now, bicycles aren't allowed on *footpaths* - ie, the path that runs along the side of the road. But they're generally allowed on most other paths, like into or

Re: [talk-au] Default access restrictions

2010-01-06 Thread David Murn
On Thu, 2010-01-07 at 10:49 +1000, Stephen Hope wrote: Why? Just because you happen to live in a state where that happens to be the case, doesn't mean I do. If I tagged a footpath, I would expect bikes ARE allowed by default, because they are here. Setting defaults for this is going to be

Re: [talk-au] Default access restrictions

2010-01-06 Thread John Henderson
David Murn wrote: Im fairly sure ACT law doesnt allow riding on footpaths, only designated bicycle paths. All footpaths are shared paths (foot and bicycle traffic) in the ACT. John ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org

Re: [talk-au] Default access restrictions

2010-01-06 Thread Jim Croft
Nope. See this: http://www.netspeed.com.au/cr/bicycle/features/footpath.htm in particular: LEGISLATION Legal authority to enable cyclists to use all footpaths was provided in a 1974 amendment of the ACT Traffic Act 1937 (2), which stated that: A person shall not - ...drive, ride or wheel a

Re: [talk-au] Default access restrictions

2010-01-06 Thread Stephen Hope
2010/1/7 David Murn da...@incanberra.com.au: On Thu, 2010-01-07 at 10:49 +1000, Stephen Hope wrote: From a quick skim of the wiki, it seems that 'bicycle=yes' means that bicycles are allowed on the way, where 'bicycle=designated' means the bike has right of way.  Bikes have right of way on

Re: [talk-au] Default access restrictions

2010-01-06 Thread Steve Bennett
On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 4:49 PM, Stephen Hope slh...@gmail.com wrote: This was my basic understanding as well, which is why I get confused when I see people talking about marking paths with stuff like bicycle=designated and foot=designated. They can't both have right of way. Are you

Re: [talk-au] Default access restrictions

2010-01-06 Thread Roy Wallace
On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 3:49 PM, Stephen Hope slh...@gmail.com wrote: 2010/1/7 David Murn da...@incanberra.com.au: On Thu, 2010-01-07 at 10:49 +1000, Stephen Hope wrote: From a quick skim of the wiki, it seems that 'bicycle=yes' means that bicycles are allowed on the way, where

Re: [Talk-br] Fotos Áereas e Ortofotos do IBGE no Op enstreetmap

2010-01-06 Thread Vitor George
Oi Ednei, Eu recebi uma resposta parecida com a sua, há um tempo atrás. O que eles dizem é que os dados são de domínio público, desde que citada a fonte. Abs, Vitor -- Forwarded message -- From: Atendimento IBGE i...@ibge.gov.br Date: 2009/1/8 Subject: Dúvidas sobre as

Re: [Talk-br] Fotos Áereas e Ortofotos do IBGE no Op enstreetmap

2010-01-06 Thread enqd
Olá pessoal, postei na lista em Inglês do OSM a respeito da hospedagem das ortofotos do IBGE e algumas pessoas se dispuseram a ajudar nesse sentido, veja o tópico para ler as respostas: http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk/2010-January/046733.html 2010/1/6 Vitor George

[Talk-br] Importacao do Vitoria

2010-01-06 Thread Aun Johnsen
Oi gente Com ajuda do Hackermike/h4ck3rm1k3/Mike DuPonte, eu tem um planemetria de Vitoria do .dwg convertido pela .osm dados. Agora eu trabalhando marcar as ruas do Vitoria e preparar para importar os dados. Nao poder importar os dados direito, tem muito obras manual para fazer. Algum quer me

Re: [Talk-de] Präsentationsmappe

2010-01-06 Thread Jan Tappenbeck
Suche mal die Präsentation raus, die ein User und ich vor einiger Zeit beim Katasteramt vorgeführt haben. dafür würde ich das auch als erstes gerne nutzen ! gruß Jan :-) ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org

Re: [Talk-de] TMC Validator

2010-01-06 Thread Georg Feddern
Moin, Sven Anders schrieb: In der Hoffung das damit das Thema TMC vielleicht ein paar mehr Leuten näher gebracht werden kann. Super, jetzt kann auch ich die kryptischen Daten zuordnen. Alternativ kann man unter: http://osm-tmc.anders-hamburg.de/area.php?lcd=1 Verstehe ja, das im

Re: [Talk-de] Mautbrücken

2010-01-06 Thread Stefano Kowalke
Stefano meinte wohl keine mautpflichtigen Brücken, sondern die Schnellstraßen überspannenden Konstruktionen zur Mauterfassung: http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mautbrücke Genau die meinte ich. :-) Stefano ___ Talk-de mailing list

Re: [Talk-de] Mautbrücken

2010-01-06 Thread Stefano Kowalke
Am 05.01.10 14:05, schrieb Mirko Küster: wie werden die deutschen Mautbrücken getaggt? Aktuell noch nichts offizielles. Nimm doch vorerst erstmal als Node oder Way: highway=toll_bridge operator=Toll Collect GmbH Ok, das ist ja mal ein Anfang. Stefano

Re: [Talk-de] Mautbrücken

2010-01-06 Thread Jan Tappenbeck
Moin ! Sollte nicht ein Node highway=tollbridge ausreichen ?? Gruß jan :-) ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de

Re: [Talk-de] TMC Validator

2010-01-06 Thread André Riedel
Am 5. Januar 2010 17:56 schrieb Sven Anders s...@anders-hamburg.de: Verbesserungsvorschläge gerne an die Liste: Hohe Prio: - Die Punkte eines Segments sollten wie bei den Roads sortiert dargestellt werden. bsp. http://osm-tmc.anders-hamburg.de/segment.php?lcd=8531 - Es soll geprüft werden, ob

Re: [Talk-de] TMC Validator

2010-01-06 Thread André Riedel
Am 6. Januar 2010 11:34 schrieb Georg Feddern ne...@bavarianmallet.de: Weitere Frage: Einige TMC-Points (sic!, nicht Area, die habe ich jeweils auf die Gemeinde-Relation gelegt) liegen quasi im Ortskern der Gemeinde bzw. auf oder in der Nähe der früheren Hauptverbindungswege. Macht es Sinn,

Re: [Talk-de] Mautbrücken

2010-01-06 Thread Jan Tappenbeck
sorry habe posting von mirko mit highway=toll_bridge operator=Toll Collect GmbH nicht gelesen! hat einer schon eine idee für ein symbol in josm ? gruß Jan :-) 06.01.2010 11:47, schrieb Jan Tappenbeck: Moin ! Sollte nicht ein Node highway=tollbridge ausreichen ?? Gruß jan :-)

[Talk-de] Bereinigung von Werten max....

2010-01-06 Thread Jan Tappenbeck
Hi ! ich habe mir in der letzten Zeit vermehr die Max-Values angesehen und festgestellt das viele verschiedene Schreibweisen vorliegen für die Werte. * mit den Maßeinheiten * Punkt und Komma als Dezimaltrennung * mit 0 im Nachkomma-Bereich (unkritisch) Sollte es nicht einen Automatismus geben

Re: [Talk-de] Bereinigung von Werten max....

2010-01-06 Thread Lars Francke
Sollte es nicht einen Automatismus geben der diese Werte vereinheitlicht ?? Macht in meinen Augen wenig Sinn, denn keiner der von Dir beschriebenen Fälle ist falsch. Es sind, wie Du schon sagst, verschiedene Schreibweisen/Konventionen/Präferenzen und egal wie häufig Du das bereinigst es wird

Re: [Talk-de] Bereinigung von Werten max....

2010-01-06 Thread SLXViper
Jan Tappenbeck schrieb: Hi ! ich habe mir in der letzten Zeit vermehr die Max-Values angesehen und festgestellt das viele verschiedene Schreibweisen vorliegen für die Werte. * mit den Maßeinheiten Standard sind die SI-Einheiten - also Meter und metrische Tonnen, die brauchen also nicht

Re: [Talk-de] Bereinigung von Werten max....

2010-01-06 Thread Tobias Knerr
Jan Tappenbeck schrieb: ich habe mir in der letzten Zeit vermehr die Max-Values angesehen und festgestellt das viele verschiedene Schreibweisen vorliegen für die Werte. Wirkt für OSM-Verhältnisse harmlos. ;-) * mit den Maßeinheiten Es ist Standard, den Wert in örtlichen Maßeinheiten

Re: [Talk-de] Neuer Highways View im OSM Inspector

2010-01-06 Thread Mirko Küster
Die Anzeige des 'Fehlers' ist also richtig, oder sehe ich das falsch? ;-) Das ist kein Fehler sondern ein noch gültiger und auch in JOSM angebotener Schlüssel. Was im Fall von simplen Bushaltestellen auch noch immer ausreichend und für Leute die durch die Relationskaskade nicht durchblicken

Re: [Talk-de] TMC Validator

2010-01-06 Thread Georg Feddern
Moin Ingrid, Georg Feddern schrieb: Alternativ kann man unter: http://osm-tmc.anders-hamburg.de/area.php?lcd=1 Verstehe ja, das im TMC nicht alle Gemeinden und Straßen enthalten sein müssen. In der obigen Auflistung fehlen aber auch Roads und Segmente, denen über die Karte

Re: [Talk-de] Relationen in Baden-Württemberg aufr äumen?

2010-01-06 Thread Werner Hoch
On Dienstag, 5. Januar 2010, SLXViper wrote: Werner Hoch schrieb: Die type-Tags halte ich allein deshalb für enorm wichtig, damit man das taggingschema herausfinden kann. Stimmt eigentlich. Ich hab die jetzt mal ergänzt und vereinheitlicht. Villingen und Umland bis Furtwangen und das

[Talk-de] maxspeed=DE:Urban

2010-01-06 Thread Jan Tappenbeck
Moin ! bei uns hat in Lübeck einer mit der Verwendung von maxspeed=DE:urban [1] angefangen. So ganz fürndig bin ich im Wiki noch nicht gefunden. Sollte das nun verwendet werden oder nicht - wenn ja wäre es klasse, wenn die MaxValue-Karte es entsprechend berücksichtigen würde - langfristig

Re: [Talk-de] maxspeed=DE:Urban

2010-01-06 Thread SLXViper
Jan Tappenbeck schrieb: Moin ! bei uns hat in Lübeck einer mit der Verwendung von maxspeed=DE:urban [1] angefangen. So ganz fürndig bin ich im Wiki noch nicht gefunden. Hast du schon http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:maxspeed gesehen? ___

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