with Firefox crashing no mater what platform I am on for some
reason.
David Griffith
d.griff...@btinternet.com
On 13 Sep 2011, at 03:43, Dane Trethowan wrote:
Hi!
Sorry I can't give the list much detail as the link I had for this episode of
the Freedom Scientific podcast doesn't appear to work
?
Thanks for info and if anybody knows the Mac Safari version please let me
know.
wer
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d.griff...@btinternet.com
On 13 Sep 2011, at 07:07, Dane Trethowan wrote:
Yep there is a web capture solution for the Mac though I can't remember the
name of the software
settings. Also, you get three upgrades for free with an
SMA, so not everyone is paying to upgrade.
Also, most people who use JAWS aren't using the Mac, so it's no fair
to criticize the FS folks for being too late. Sure, if JAWS was a Mac
thing then maybe...
Mary
Quoting Dane Trethowan grtd
Excellent! off to order one then, will let you all know what its like
when I receive it.
On 14/09/2011 11:01 PM, Martin McCormick wrote:
Dane Trethowan writes:
The product looks most interesting, only thing which is preventing me
from buying is the question of whether this device
Hi Everyone!
I'm pleased to report that I have my new HP Officejet Pro 8500+ up and
running and I can print from every computer connected to my network and
send faxes thus though as yet i've not tried or attempted to configure
Airprint for the Ipad, that's something I'll be looking at soon
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Just wondering if there's such a thing as an external SATA hard drive
which would work well with a Notebook? My HP notebook has a SATA port,
does this port supply power to the drive as well like an externally
powered USB hard drive? Is SATA faster than Firewire or USB, my notebook
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On 22/09/2011 11:27 PM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote:
Hello Dane
On 22 Sep 2011, at 13:57, Dane Trethowan wrote:
No cable comes out of the input shoes I use with mine
as
a micro SD slot.
My Iriver 320 device is finally proving to be too costly to repair so
the Olympus should replace this rather nicely and I'm not complaining as
the Iriver hard drive has been recording and playing audio nicely for
the last 6 years.
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On Sep 22, 2011, at 7:16 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
Hurray! we now have a store that stocks these recorders, the full range so I'm
going to have a look at at a few next week, may consider the purchase of 1.
The Zoom H1 is a damn nice recorder
Howdy!
I wonder whether just a cassette recorder may do the job? You can still buy the
typical desktop machine with the classic piano key type arrangement for well
under $200.00 here, I just checked with one of the stores where I buy radio
gear from.
I'm not sure I'd recommend the Zoom H1
to tell which Olympus model talks?
Thanks, Dane
Mary
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I wonder whether just a cassette recorder may do the job? You can
still buy the typical desktop machine with the classic piano key type
arrangement for well under $200.00 here
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There's a hell of a lot I need to retrain with, and not just regarding H1. But
the H1 is my focus at the moment.
Gordon
On 18 Sep 2011, at 08:56, Dane Trethowan wrote:
Okay well firstly given that the Zoom H1 doesn't have any editing controls -
well not yet at any rate - as part of its built
Well worth the upgrade, recognition is not only more accurate than it was but
its far faster, recognition has been very accurate in versions 10 and 11 so the
status quo is welcomed!
Software is far more stable than its ever been, well on my computer system at
any rate.
Haven't done all that
Okay foks, here's an accessibility enhancement in Airfoil For Windows I've been
waiting for, I've written to the developers about the issue of selecting the
target for transmission of input source for quite some time.
Up until recently the only way you could select a target was to take pot luck
On 27 Sep 2011, at 20:18, Dane Trethowan wrote:
Okay foks, here's an accessibility enhancement in Airfoil For Windows I've
been waiting for, I've written to the developers about the issue of selecting
the target for transmission of input source for quite some time.
Up until recently the only
And no one ever said you did either.
On 28/09/2011, at 1:11 PM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote:
And that's all I'm saying Dane; you don't have to use iTunes to use AirPlay.
Lynne
On 28 Sep 2011, at 03:43, Dane trethowan wrote:
I try for a third time, Airfoil and airfoil Speakers
is looking to buy
that when she's able. it is, as you say, very expensive.
I must say though; i'm puzzled as to how you'd get a main stream article like a
scanner/printer with K1000. But well, so be it.
Lynne
On 27 Sep 2011, at 19:13, Dane Trethowan wrote:
Well worth the upgrade, recognition
I think perhaps JAWS could be put into the class of Productivity ware much in
the same way as Window-Eyes could be with its scripts, apps or whatever they're
called these days.
Personally? Well I don't particularly like Freedom Scientific today or on any
other day smile but if the company does
Well we'll wait and see, Webvisum uses OCR technology and it can't solve all
captures though it does solve 99% of them and that - for a service you pay next
to nothing for - is pretty good going.
On 01/10/2011, at 5:51 AM, David McLean wrote:
Actually it doesn't solve capchas, or would be
I should also mention that there is a lot of discussion on this particular
topic over on the GW-Info list smile..
On 01/10/2011, at 5:51 AM, David McLean wrote:
Actually it doesn't solve capchas, or would be unlikely to. They said as
much in the last fs cast.
On Sep 30, 2011, at 3:47 PM,
Hi!
I'm looking for web publishing software for windows and all reports
appear to indicate that this package is the most accessible under
Windows, does anyone have any purchasing details or a link to a trial
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I have no trouble in following your logic in the message
Okay, for all those brain washed Apple wurshipers out there who think
there's nothing for blind people to use apart from Iphone then take a
read of this.
http://www.mediaaccess.org.au/latest_news/general/phone-carrier-gives-away-accessibility-apps-to-blind-and-vision-impaired-users
Only other
I like the sound of this piece of equipment called top Braille
http://www.top-braille.eu/lang1/
The Top Braille has been reviewed at http://www.blindcooltech.com
Is available in the U.k. though I'm not sure about other countries at
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I like the sound of this piece of equipment called top Braille
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the podcast and it is the slowest method of reading I have ever seen.
I love the concept, but there has to be a better way of executing this thing.
I don't have any ideas at the moment though but just my opinion.
On Oct 7, 2011, at 7:48 AM, Dane trethowan wrote:
I like the sound
Okay folks, I've only been playing with this software for a few minutes
and I would have to say that Now You're Cooking is the most accessible
recipe management software for Windows I've ever worked with and the
most user-friendly.
If you can't manage recipes and associated information with
I hope you get some feedback on this topic, here's my recommendations for what
they're worth.
I too! have an Eset licence however I will not be renewing it this year, the
software doesn't scan for cookies and actually its known that the people at
Eset don't think tracking cookies a serious
at it but we'll be very very careful
before we buy.
Lynne
On 9 Oct 2011, at 16:06, Dane Trethowan wrote:
I hope you get some feedback on this topic, here's my recommendations for
what they're worth.
I too! have an Eset licence however I will not be renewing it this year, the
software
I've heard the Microsoft Anti Virus software is very accessible but given what
I've written in a previous message I have to ask the question, does Microsoft
Defender or whatever its called look out for such things as tracking Cookies
and the like? Now I'm not saying the software doesn't but my
If you start downloading and installing the software then you'll have it up and
running in a matter of minutes smile.
Yes, I like the idea of a lifetime's subscription which is why I'll be sticking
with Vipre for some time, added to that is the willingness of the author to fix
problems, make
in the world of I.T.
Lynne
On 9 Oct 2011, at 18:48, Dane Trethowan wrote:
Yep, I had a licence for the Vipre Enterprise version, I had been warned
against buying that actually by someone else. I could never get it to work
either so I contacted Vipre Customer Support, told them of my error
this stuff.
Lynne
On 9 Oct 2011, at 18:52, Dane Trethowan wrote:
I've heard the Microsoft Anti Virus software is very accessible but given
what I've written in a previous message I have to ask the question, does
Microsoft Defender or whatever its called look out for such things
Rollback is an excellent utility, I use it here.
I would also point out that Windows System Restore has itself come a long way
in Windows 7 and provides much of the functionality of Rollback in that the
System Restore can now restore to previous snapshots out of Windows.
Again, I've not tried
. Gordon's
concentration levels at the moment are still pretty low. As for me, I only do
the things he's shown me; but I'd be happy to try and set that up. I'm about
to go and try Vipre.
Lynne
On 10 Oct 2011, at 00:07, Dane Trethowan wrote:
Yep nodding in agreement here.
I use 1 Password
that users of
Window-eyes have with this software smile.
On 10/10/2011 10:45 AM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote:
Hello Dane
On 10 Oct 2011, at 00:08, Dane Trethowan wrote:
Thanks, I never thought of relying on it anywaysmile.
Just a figure of speech.
Lynne
be sticking with RollBack I think as it's a comprehensive solution.
The one problem we have is with disk optimisation. We haven't as yet discovered
how to use it with Diskeeper which we need to upgrade to 2011.
Lynne
On 10 Oct 2011, at 00:15, Dane Trethowan wrote:
Rollback is an excellent utility, I use
Oct 2011, at 00:57, Dane trethowan wrote:
ah yep! no one is even suggesting that System Restore is a replacement for Rollback but
think of things this way, Windows assume that people are using the recycle Bin so there's
the avenue of retreiving files, again a question of horses for courses
for both platforms would still leave you paying less than
you'd pay for Office.
Lynne
On 10 Oct 2011, at 01:26, Dane trethowan wrote:
I'm not going to comment on Daisy production as its an area I'm not familiar
with.
I have Braille embossing going on my Mac with my Keyspan adaptor and my
, DAYSY, and maybe the odd bit of audio CD ripping.
Lynne
On 10 Oct 2011, at 01:43, Dane trethowan wrote:
ah well you see that's where third party utilities such as CCleaner come into
their own, you may remember I discussed the CCleaner version for the Mac on the
mac-access list, CCleaner
seen it; it would be
rather silly of me to argue about how the thing works.
Lynne
On 10 Oct 2011, at 01:55, Dane trethowan wrote:
Well you see, its easy to reach such a perspective if you know nothing about how
Undelete Pro workssmile..
I did say that the software was fully customisable thus
Yep, Thunderbird is an absolute pain in the behind to use with Window-Eyes, I
use NVDA as my Screen Reading solution of choice these days and Thunderbird has
done and probably always will work very well with NVDA and why shouldn't it as
Thunderbird uses standard controls which any Screen
gives me the shivers. I know what their mail service is like.
The description of Windows is perfectly correct, they are Windows.
Lynne
On 11 Oct 2011, at 15:31, Dane Trethowan wrote:
• Yep, Thunderbird is an absolute pain in the behind to use with Window-Eyes,
I use NVDA as my Screen
My bluetooth keyboard actually came with one even though I don't need it, I've
tried it with other devices and it seems to work.
As for Regretting the purchase of an EEEPC? Well a couple of things here.
Perhaps its just my attitude or something in the local water supply but I'm one
of those
Just been giving this message some extra thought and I wonder why you're
asking this question, I mean aren't you a great fan of Itunes? If so
then why not just solve yourself a whole heap of problems and use that.
On 16/10/2011 5:38 AM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote:
Hello everybody
use iTunes on the Mac out of convenience, nothing
more. On Window I have always found iTunes a pain in the place where the sun
don't shine! I honestly don't recall ever proclaiming myself a huge fan of
anything, except that which works hassle-free.
Lynne
On 15 Oct 2011, at 20:17, Dane
:22 PM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote:
Hello Dane
I keep forgetting to change accounts. :) OK, I will try that.
Lynne
On 23 Oct 2011, at 11:15, Dane Trethowan wrote:
I think I found what you're looking for by typing in defragment or something
like that.
On 23/10/2011, at 9:13
that I was in caps lock but that was it, you typed
your document and then used special keystrokes to examine that document,
examine the screen and so on.
On 01/11/2011, at 11:06 PM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote:
Hello Dane
On 1 Nov 2011, at 07:06, Dane Trethowan wrote:
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I was most interested to read the announcement of the release of the Read Easy
as it seems to have quite a bit of potential.
Some very good thought has obviously gone into the design of this product
making it attractive for both novice and advanced user alike, the device itself
only has 6
Amazing what you find when you're looking smile.
I've been a user of Tune-Up Utilities for quite some time now, every time I get
a few moments to explore the system I'm always finding out something new or
finding something in the system I didn't know existed before.
I just happened to look in
Some people it would seem have a problem with this kind of software as its
written around blind people rather than being a mainstream Windows Twitter
client which is accessible.
I myself can see both sides of the coin here as this sort of software can most
often give more accessibility to
Love this software, quite accessible and its Donation Ware meaning that if
you like it then you're asked if you wouldn't mind making a donation towards
the continued development of Cumulus.
You can find out more about Cumulus and download the software from
Hi!
Has anyone tried any of the Logitech 360 speaker range? They're not
surround-sound systems but they are designed to bounce sound around a room so
it can be enjoyed from wherever you are in a room rather than having to sit in
front of the speakers as is usually the case.
These 360
I'm playing with this now, was released a short time ago.
Very glad to see that the problems with Thunderbird have been resolved
though I'm not game to say its perfect right now smile, still prefer
to use NVDA when using my mail client.
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Hi!
I now have a number of these in my collection, not many but I'm in no
doubt that the Not Many total will expand to something like Quite A
Few in the not to distant future.
There's nothing worse than having a small Bluray collection and no
player to play them on so I started shopping.
Well if you want to make a mountain out of a molehill that's your call but it
sounds common sense to me, I've dealt with Yamaha Customer Service here before,
all I had to do was to provide proof of purchase and that was easy enough done,
my problem was sorted in minutes.
On 23/11/2011, at
week.
Lynne
On 22 Nov 2011, at 23:02, Dane Trethowan wrote:
Sorry to hear about the power supply, I had something similar happen with a
Yamaha Surround-Sound system I recently bought, the microphone for the auto
calibration feature was missing, a call to my local electrical store where I
That should be all you need, that's all I gave them here but of course that
means nothing these days.
On 24/11/2011, at 1:07 AM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote:
Hello everybody
OK, let's see if it does any good. I've been on to their website and
contacted Yamaha with the relevant
support the syncing of an iPhone or iPod.
On 26/11/2011, at 2:44 AM, Gordon Smith wrote:
Hi Dane and all
I'm going to do this in Lynne style, as it'll make things easier.
On 25 Nov 2011, at 14:23, Dane Trethowan wrote:
• Howdy and good to see you round again.
It's great to be back
iPhone will not be the only truly accessible smart phone on the market,
with Android 4.0 you'll have the Screen Reader at your fingertips on a
wide variety of phones and tablets.
You can keep up to date with the progress of Android 4.0 at the above
web site.
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couple of Altec Lansing products I've reviewed here on list I
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right out of the box. So I really hope this lives up to the expectations.
Lynne
On 26 Nov 2011, at 01:37, Dane Trethowan wrote:
• Android 4.0 is being worked
Exactly! but the stream is only available for residents of the U.S.
On 28/11/2011, at 6:38 AM, Travis Siegel wrote:
Have you tried a google search for knx and listen? It will almost always turn
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You're still missing my point, all CBS streams are banned for those
living outside the U.S. so in other words I need a VPN or something to
mask my IP address.
On 28/11/2011 11:35 AM, Travis Siegel wrote:
The url is:
http://player.radio.com/player/RadioPlayer.php?version=1.2.12495station=95
Hi folks!
I've been doing some further research on this, since CBS have blocked all their
radio streams for those outside the U.S. it looks as though I'm going to have
to use a VPN in order to listen.
With some help from my friend Google and some people who just happened to be
following me on
am not sure of the URL
and do not wish to give a possibly incorrect one. It is a VPN sort of
application that supposedly protects your privacy and allows access to
sites that are otherwise not available in your country.
On 27/11/2011 18:12, Dane Trethowan wrote:
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Subject line says
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I'm just curious.
What's the difference between the look of a LED and a LCD screen, is one
sharper than the other.
was going through the specs of my HP Entertainment Notebook PC and I
noted that it had a 15.2 LED display, my Apple Macbook which is
considerably older has a 13.5 Inch LCD
Hi!
Just wondering what people are using in the way of headsets when using Skype or
their computer?
I bought a pair of Logitech Clear Chat headphones some 4 years ago I think it
was and now they're starting to fall apart literally smile.
I'm looking at a pair of wireless headphones possibly
Hi!
Okay folks I have my VPN up and running and it was far easier to setup than I'd
expected it to be but first some background.
Perhaps someone could correct my explanation of what a VPN is if appropriate,
to me its a private tunnel between you and the site or whatever you wish to
connect
Yep, there are some issues with Thunderbird and Window-Eyes, that's widely
acknowledged and GW Micro have been roundly condemned for saying everything's
fixed in the latest version of WE and for not paying attention to the problems,
one can actually say that Window-Eyes is nearing the point of
Hi!
I purchased a Sangean ATS909X World Band receiver quite some time ago and I'm
now only putting the set through its paces.
I could write pages and pages about this unit and I'll do that on my blog in
the future I'm sure but I do feel that this set deserves praise for its SSB
reception.
:35 AM, Martin McCormick wrote:
Dane Trethowan writes:
I purchased a Sangean ATS909X World Band receiver quite some time ago
and I'm now only putting the set through its paces.
I could write pages and pages about this unit and I'll do that on my blog
in the future I'm sure but I do feel
Yep, now I'm not saying this is the same thing but there's another project
called Skype Talking which doesn't even require a Screen Reader, just run it
and you have Skype accessible and ready to go.
On 20/12/2011, at 8:27 AM, chris hallsworth wrote:
Hello all.
I wish to proudly spread the
Chris, tell GW Micro from me that I'd rather them fix Window-Eyes first than
develop what's already out there in the form of accessible Skype software, I'd
tell them myself but I just got off their list and I'm absolutely disgusted
with that company and the way they're treating their client
a deep fade comes along and then it is just dead
silence like all digital media. In other words, it's really good
until it shuts off.
Dane Trethowan writes:
School Of The Air is still broadcasting on Shortwave apparently,
someone's just sent me a frequency guide so I'll take a listen
I'm not at all surprised at your findings.
I've been using Read Iris Pro for Windows here, its the best scanning/OCR
solution I've seen and I paid £40.00 for it.
Now I'm not trying to be too critical here but let's face it, Omnipage Pro is
not designed for a user without sight thus Omnipage
Yep that's very unfortunate.
Fortunately my Yamaha TSX-130 has been working flawlessly for 15 months or so
now. The other nice thing is that I was able to source my machine locally so
if anything had gone wrong then getting a replacement or the machine looked at
wasn't going to be too much of
Hello to my friends in the states and I trust you're enjoying your holiday
season, not quite? Well perhaps the following may cheer you even further.
Just talking to a friend of mine in Florida who surely has purchased the
bargain of the season - or one of them anyway - and no! I'm not talking
On 19 Dec 2011, at 20:39, Dane Trethowan wrote:
You don't know what works these days! well if it comes to that than neither
do we smile, we were given an assurance that the problems with Thunderbird
and Window-Eyes would be fixed in the latest 7.5.2 release when actually
things have become
short of scandalous.
Lynne
On 24 Dec 2011, at 18:32, Dane Trethowan wrote:
I'm looking at the original message I wrote and I'm sorry to everyone if I
sound negative but I'm only summing up the terrible situation when it comes to
Window-Eyes, Thunderbird and Browse mode, in short WE is Screwed up
No way NVDA will be going anywhere any time soon, the only thing which may
happen is that the developer may stop developing the software and - as has been
suggested below - there's nothing whatever to stop others developing the
software.
You can see how and what is happening to NVDA, there's
Hi Folks!
Thought some may find the article at
http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/technology/smartphones/apples-plans-for-iphone-battery-that-would-lasts-for-weeks-without-needing-recharge/story-fn5tbzvc-1226230445104
of interest, perhaps we can expect some wonderful things! from the next
And what's Apple got to do with Window-Eyes?
We're talking too completely different scenarios here it seems.
Apple are developing their computers, their operating system and so on thus its
easier for the company to incorporate such useful features such as a Screen
Reading solution, a magnifier
I'm not heard anything to suggest this, more important things to be worried
about to be quite honest smile.
On 29/12/2011, at 3:55 AM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote:
Hello everybody
Unless they're doing something to the client and have removed it temporarily
from the site, it looks
thunderbird was updated recently, in the last wfortnight at least, some
people just like making Mountains out of Mole hills smile, here's to
Thudnerbird's future and the future of open source software.
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Yep, please! keep us posted and I myself am very interested as a Samsung Galaxy
product is exactly what I'm thinking of purchasing towards the end of next year
as its supposed to be one of the best Android devices available right now.
I see where you're coming from regarding your N86, I still
Yep, I see where you're coming from in the below post, the points you rais have
been responsible for some very negative reviews of the Mac and its operating
system, I remember in one such case where around 90% of what was written was
totally wrong and inaccurate, I respectfully wrote to the
I'm far from an experienced JFW user but the thing which really impressed me
when I used it was how seamlessly Internet Explorer ran.
For example there was nont much of the loading page stuff you got with WE and
pages were displayed fairly quickly.
Then when it came to form filling JFW would
is available to everyone through digital technology. Looking
forward to hearing your progress.
Dennis.
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Sent from my iPhone
On 30 Dec 2011, at 18:36, Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net wrote:
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howdy!
Yep indeed! I hhave one of these docks and they're quite impressive. Obviously
you're not going to get performance equal to that of your home stereo system
but for a portable its damn good.
Okay so how can I describe it, did you ever see one of those Mini stereo
boomboxes from the
This is just a personal opinion and nothing more.
I've never liked Sony speakers and docks,, I bought some of their speakers and
paid far too much for them in my view compared to what I could have bought from
say Altec Lansing, Logitech, Creative and so on, just not worth worrying about,
most
Dead easy though I'd say its a little heavy given its size but that's a trivial
point.
Battery lasts for about 7 hours of playing time.
On 03/01/2012, at 11:17 AM, Courtney Curran wrote:
Hi,
I'll certainly let you know. Another thing good about this system is it's
builtin rechargeable
Hi!
An exclusive offer to fello members of this list smile.
I was asked to knock up a small demo of the Bose Wave II Radio by a friend of
mine, that was done and upon playing it back I decided that this demo would be
good enough to share with those who may be interested. Tehre are 2 versions
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