On Sat, Aug 30, 2014 at 10:36 PM, Lennart Thornros lenn...@thornros.com
wrote:
OK Kevin I understand you can read but you do not understand full
sentences.
***OK Lennart I realize you have a tremendous need to start out your posts
with zinger insults, but don't really have the intelligence to
Greetings Jojo, my ancient respected nemesis from the past.
I do not believe my previous comments implied that I am rejecting God and
Heaven. The conflict, if there really exists one between us, seems to be
that we may have slightly different intellectual perspectives as to what God
and the
Johnson
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Monday, September 01, 2014 5:45 AM
Subject: RE: [Vo]: The Absurdity of Darwinian Evolution.
Greetings Jojo, my ancient respected nemesis from the past.
I do not believe my previous comments implied that I am rejecting God and
Heaven. The conflict
On Fri, Aug 29, 2014 at 10:24 AM, ChemE Stewart cheme...@gmail.com wrote:
You just Unified Science and Religion!
***And yet, such an accomplishment has been greeted with a yawn on
Vortex...
Who makes crop circles?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crop_circle
On Fri, Aug 29, 2014 at 1:18
sorry the whole biblical stuff does bot belong here.
everybody is entitled to their own believe. Why do we want to find out who
is right?
Live by your believes and let others live by theirs - end of story.
Tired of the biblical or Islamic or Buddha ways of thinking.
Tell you what you are all
that it's okay for
you but not for me. What an INCREDIBLY closed mind.
-Original Message-
From: Kevin O'Malley kevmol...@gmail.com
To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Fri, Aug 29, 2014 5:53 pm
Subject: Re: [Vo]: The Absurdity of Darwinian Evolution.
On Fri, Aug 29
Who are you to say it does not belong? Perhaps you would throw out all of
historicity of the bible, even on mundane events? You'd throw out ALL of
reliable history when you do so, throwing the baby out with the bathwater.
How incredibly close minded for such an open minded group. I see you
-Original Message-
From: Kevin O'Malley kevmol...@gmail.com
To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Sat, Aug 30, 2014 1:40 am
Subject: Re: [Vo]: The Absurdity of Darwinian Evolution.
On Fri, Aug 29, 2014 at 7:24 PM, David Roberson dlrober...@aol.com
wrote:
Kevin,
Apparently you have your
At 07:55 PM 8/29/2014, Jojo Iznart wrote:

The answer to this question is 100
million.
That was a very good answer (based on the available
sources.)
I would not want to live an eternity in heaven where dancing is frowned
upon.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a6K7OC-IKnA
My cousins are one-half Greek. The parties are memorable.
Regards,
Steven Vincent Johnson
svjart.orionworks.com
zazzle.com/orionworks
Kevin, don't think to hard, it just makes tired. Your response is not worth
the paper it is written on (Not).
I am not talking about any religion. I am not telling you how it is. I am
not asking you to verify my opinion. The reason are several:
1. You are not qualified.
2. If I wanted to talk
...@gmail.com
To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Sat, Aug 30, 2014 1:40 am
Subject: Re: [Vo]: The Absurdity of Darwinian Evolution.
On Fri, Aug 29, 2014 at 7:24 PM, David Roberson dlrober...@aol.com wrote:
Kevin,
Apparently you have your fixed concepts of how the universe began
At 07:55 PM 8/29/2014, Jojo Iznart wrote:
Thus, Angels are in
fact multi-dimensional creatures. They can come and go into our
dimension, assume any shape they like in our dimension
So far, so good.
and can occupy the
same space at the same time in our dimension.
That's not clear at all.
First,
indulges in. Angels have no need nor desire to engage in carnal dancing, (at
least the non-fallen ones).
Jojo
- Original Message -
From: Alan Fletcher
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com ; vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Sunday, August 31, 2014 8:17 AM
Subject: Re: [Vo]: The Absurdity
to
carnal sexual dancing we indulge in.
Jojo
- Original Message -
From: Orionworks - Steven Vincent Johnson
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Sunday, August 31, 2014 5:55 AM
Subject: RE: [Vo]: The Absurdity of Darwinian Evolution.
I would not want to live an eternity
Neither would I, especially since God commands us to dance with joy before
Him.
Lennart:
Trying to weed out religion would whittle down Vortex to about 3 members.
Because secular humanism is a religion. Atheism is a religion. Scientism
is a religion. Heck, one of my favorite cold fusioneers sued the US Patent
Office because he believed in cold fusion, like as in a
OK Kevin I understand you can read but you do not understand full
sentences.
I do not want to eliminate anyone.
I do not want to discuss religion with you or others at Vortex.
I am not going to take your advice as I am already old enough to have an
established opinion.
Best Regards ,
Lennart
--
Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2014 21:15:46 -0700
Subject: Re: [Vo]: The Absurdity of Darwinian Evolution.
From: kevmol...@gmail.com
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
On Wed, Aug 27, 2014 at 6:44 AM, Sunil Shah s.u.n@hotmail.com wrote:
Well, your prediction is wrong.
***Well, you went nowhere near
I haven't been following this thread.
But can somebody please give me an estimate of the average rate of
deity-formation. (That is, an omnipitent, omnipresent deity capable of
creating a universe -- or maybe even a multiverse -- and then diddle with
DNA over a coupla/few billion years.).
Would
Yup. The bible says a day is like a thousand years to God, and a thousand
years is like a day.
Science today tells us that someone travelling the speed of light (the twin
paradox) for a year would return to his twin back on earth, and the twin
would have aged 100 years. Is God restricted to the
You just Unified Science and Religion!
Who makes crop circles?
On Fri, Aug 29, 2014 at 1:18 PM, Kevin O'Malley kevmol...@gmail.com wrote:
Yup. The bible says a day is like a thousand years to God, and a thousand
years is like a day.
Science today tells us that someone travelling the speed
Crop circles are formed by rednecks with nothing better to do. They are
also formed by microwave beam weaponry from satellites orbiting. Once in
awhile those things need to tuned.
On Fri, Aug 29, 2014 at 10:24 AM, ChemE Stewart cheme...@gmail.com wrote:
You just Unified Science and Religion!
At 10:18 AM 8/29/2014, Kevin O'Malley wrote:
Science today tells us that someone travelling the speed of light
(the twin paradox) for a year would return to his twin back on
earth, and the twin would have aged 100 years. Is God restricted to
the speed of light? NO WAY. He no doubt travels
I haven't found any in Georgia or Alabama, are you sure?
On Fri, Aug 29, 2014 at 1:30 PM, Kevin O'Malley kevmol...@gmail.com wrote:
Crop circles are formed by rednecks with nothing better to do. They are
also formed by microwave beam weaponry from satellites orbiting. Once in
awhile those
Simple answer: Rednecks in Georgia Alabama aren't smart enough... or
aren't bored enough... etc. Also, the beam weapons would be focused on
strategic locations.
On Fri, Aug 29, 2014 at 10:34 AM, ChemE Stewart cheme...@gmail.com wrote:
I haven't found any in Georgia or Alabama, are you sure?
But that's post-creation,
***During those first 6 days of creation, it was not post-creation. And
there's a bible verse that says something to the effect that God continues
to create, which is a good clue about why our universe is still expanding.
where the deity is crossing from (let's call
ps Did anyone ever figure out how many angels CAN dance on the head of a pin?
Between one and 30 vigintillion angels.
http://www.smbc-comics.com/index.php?db=comicsid=2576
My question is about the metaphysics of
where/how/what heaven was before creation.
***Well, I answered your original
question. Now you want to expand it into areas
where I have diminishing interest. There's
basically no scientific (and probably very
little spiritual) value in such a
I doubt that. I know there's a lot of focus on the first few seconds or
milliseconds of creation, but focusing on the universe prior to that the
level of information is asymptotic to zero. We'll get no better than the
earth was formless and void.
On Fri, Aug 29, 2014 at 11:24 AM, Alan Fletcher
At 11:28 AM 8/29/2014, you wrote:
I doubt that. I know there's a lot of focus on
the first few seconds or milliseconds of
creation, but focusing on the universe prior to
that the level of information is asymptotic to
zero. We'll get no better than the earth was formless and void.Â
the principle seems so simple,
and I personally tend to consider it open minded thinking.
Dave
-Original Message-
From: Alan Fletcher a...@well.com
To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Fri, Aug 29, 2014 2:24 pm
Subject: Re: [Vo]: The Absurdity of Darwinian Evolution.
My question is about
At 01:17 PM 8/29/2014, David Roberson wrote:
Lets
call time before the big bang as BBB. So what was around 1 billion
years BBB?
Our measurement techniques and assumptions lead us to believe that 13+
odd billion years has elapsed, but what if we are wrong? According
to relativity, immense mass
: [Vo]: The Absurdity of Darwinian Evolution.
My question is about the metaphysics of
where/how/what heaven was before creation.
***Well, I answered your original
question. Now you want to expand it into areas
where I have diminishing interest. There's
basically no scientific
On Fri, Aug 29, 2014 at 2:21 PM, Alan Fletcher a...@well.com wrote:
ps Did anyone ever figure out how many angels CAN dance on the head of a
pin?
Between one and 30 vigintillion angels.
http://www.smbc-comics.com/index.php?db=comicsid=2576
about the origin of that question:
at the positive aspects of issues and most of
us will respond in a like manner.
Dave
-Original Message-
From: Kevin O'Malley kevmol...@gmail.com
To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Fri, Aug 29, 2014 5:53 pm
Subject: Re: [Vo]: The Absurdity of Darwinian Evolution.
On Fri, Aug 29
Satan
in the fall leaving behind 2/3 which is 100 million.
Jojo
- Original Message -
From: H Veeder
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Saturday, August 30, 2014 9:56 AM
Subject: Re: [Vo]: The Absurdity of Darwinian Evolution.
On Fri, Aug 29, 2014 at 2:21 PM, Alan
in the fall leaving behind 2/3 which is 100
million.
Jojo
- Original Message -
*From:* H Veeder hveeder...@gmail.com
*To:* vortex-l@eskimo.com
*Sent:* Saturday, August 30, 2014 9:56 AM
*Subject:* Re: [Vo]: The Absurdity of Darwinian Evolution.
On Fri, Aug 29, 2014
-
From: Kevin O'Malley kevmol...@gmail.com
To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Fri, Aug 29, 2014 5:53 pm
Subject: Re: [Vo]: The Absurdity of Darwinian Evolution.
On Fri, Aug 29, 2014 at 1:17 PM, David Roberson dlrober...@aol.com
wrote:
Lets call time before the big bang as BBB. So what
O'Malley kevmol...@gmail.com
To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Fri, Aug 29, 2014 5:53 pm
Subject: Re: [Vo]: The Absurdity of Darwinian Evolution.
On Fri, Aug 29, 2014 at 1:17 PM, David Roberson dlrober...@aol.com
wrote:
Lets call time before the big bang as BBB. So what was around 1 billion
process. Making assumptions like that changes
everything.
/Sunil
Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2014 21:15:46 -0700
Subject: Re: [Vo]: The Absurdity of Darwinian Evolution.
From: kevmol...@gmail.com
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
On Wed, Aug 27, 2014 at 6:44 AM, Sunil Shah s.u.n@hotmail.com wrote:
Well, your
your
perspective) = An unobservably small change.
/Sunil
From: jojoiznar...@gmail.com
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]: The Absurdity of Darwinian Evolution.
Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2014 23:26:39 +0800
Assuming the most liberal assumptions of the age of
the Universe being
]: The Absurdity of Darwinian Evolution.
This has got to the worst calculation of evolution probabilities I have ever
seen.
Surely you can do BETTER than this? It's a bleedin' disgrace..
And stop misusing the proof word all the time : D
I do recognize one particular thing though, I see it time
@eskimo.com
Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2014 4:12
PM
Subject: Re: [Vo]: The Absurdity of
Darwinian Evolution.
This has got to the worst calculation of evolution probabilities
I have ever seen.
Surely you can do BETTER than this? It's a bleedin'
disgrace..
And stop misusing
do not accept basic
science.
Me: Whatever!!! LOL...
- Original Message -
From: Sunil Shah
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2014 9:44 PM
Subject: Re: [Vo]: The Absurdity of Darwinian Evolution.
Well, your prediction is wrong.
Yes, why would I
, August 27, 2014 9:44 PM
*Subject:* Re: [Vo]: The Absurdity of Darwinian Evolution.
Well, your prediction is wrong.
Yes, why would I not believe that the number 10^300,000 is correct? But
who is to say that Huxley et al are answering the right question??
First of all they are making
, 2014 9:44 PM
*Subject:* Re: [Vo]: The Absurdity of Darwinian Evolution.
Well, your prediction is wrong.
Yes, why would I not believe that the number 10^300,000 is correct? But
who is to say that Huxley et al are answering the right question??
First of all they are making assumptions about
Axil
To: vortex-l
Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2014 2:01 AM
Subject: Re: [Vo]: The Absurdity of Darwinian Evolution.
http://phys.org/news/2014-08-scientists-human-worm-genomes-biology.html
Scientists looking across human, fly and worm genomes find shared biology
Researchers
classes. You can do better.
/Sunil
--
From: jojoiznar...@gmail.com
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]: The Absurdity of Darwinian Evolution.
Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2014 23:26:39 +0800
Assuming the most liberal assumptions of the age of the Universe being
...
- Original Message -
*From:* Sunil Shah s.u.n@hotmail.com
*To:* vortex-l@eskimo.com
*Sent:* Wednesday, August 27, 2014 4:12 PM
*Subject:* Re: [Vo]: The Absurdity of Darwinian Evolution.
This has got to the worst calculation of evolution probabilities I have
ever seen.
Surely you can do
Assuming the most liberal assumptions of the age of the Universe being
16,000,000,000 years. (504576 seconds)
Assuming that at the birth of the Universe there was a single cell lifeform.
Assuming that there are 1,000,000,000,000 changes from a single cell lifeform
vs Man. (There is
Liberal assumption? That's news to me.
There's a conservative assumption, which means a cautious assumption,
which doesn't take outlier data as true until more data is accumulated.
This is not at all related to conservative/liberal politics.
2014-08-26 12:26 GMT-03:00 Jojo Iznart
Interesting argument that I had not seen before. And it starts with life
being present at the beginning, whereas the earliest life postulated by
abiogenesis proponents is about 5 Billion years ago. That makes it a very
conservative theory. Working backwards, we should see the kind of change
you
Its have been lots of unsubscribing in the last time.
Can it have
something to do with a increasing level of crackpottery at this site?
On Tue, 26 Aug 2014 11:05:13 -0700, Kevin O'Malley wrote:
Interesting argument that I had not seen before. And it starts with
life being present at the
If it's so easy to label his argument as crackpottery then it should be
just as easy for you to prove it. So far, no one has addressed his
argument, just a bunch of sniping commentary. Perhaps if there was more
rational discussion of classical arguments, and less sniping, there'd be
less
I have it on good authority that the origins of Christianity and
Anthropomorphic GM is the common fungus
Amanita muscaria:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8YD06vjg0Jg
And if you would kindly stick to the topic, or, at least otherwise
label your posts [OT] in the heading so that they might be
I just saw 1 unsubscribe. Where did you see others?
2014-08-26 15:06 GMT-03:00 torulf.gr...@bredband.net:
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Hi all
I just added Jojo the fairytale numpty to my spam filter I no longer see
him other than when he is mentioned in others posts.
Kind Regards walker
On 26 August 2014 21:37, Daniel Rocha danieldi...@gmail.com wrote:
I just saw 1 unsubscribe. Where did you see others?
2014-08-26 15:06
Hi all
If everyone adds him to their spam filters he will disappear back in to his
own little fairytale world of utter irrelevance.
See Evolution works thank Darwin.
Kind Regards walker
On 26 August 2014 22:15, Ian Walker walker...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi all
I just added Jojo the fairytale
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